The Syndicate

Here!

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:56 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:55 pmHere!

[VOTE: ColinisCool] aubergine

I must have time travelled to cut the line.

Speed, can you give an example of what specifically would qualify as flavor claiming?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:15 pm Fun game y'all, congrats winners and thanks speed for hosting

This whole game is gonna be a clusterfuck.

Is there a sex cave in this one too? I’d like to be involved if at all possible.

If I could travel back in time, I would definitely try to punch myself in the face.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:36 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:16 pm If I could travel back in time, I would definitely try to punch myself in the face.
You're willing to wait that long in line?

I’ve got time travel, I can just skip around and find a good spot.

That’s lower priority than punching myself in the face, but I’m sure I have room for it sometime.

Is Day 0 24 hrs?

I’ve been good with the 8 to 10 pm EST games have been running on here but I’m not particular.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:28 pm As usual day 1 Mac is right. I told you all Golden was scum.
I legitimately don’t have the energy to fight you on this this time.

Does his accusation feel serious to you?

I mean, Mac looked pretty flippant in Easter to me for the 10 minutes he was there trolling JJJ, but maybe that shouldn’t count.

I haven’t played a game with Mac where he and I have both survived long enough for me to get reads on him in a long time. What was your last scum game, Mac?

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:25 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:09 am I mean, Mac looked pretty flippant in Easter to me for the 10 minutes he was there trolling JJJ, but maybe that shouldn’t count.
SO WHICH IS IT COLIN HUH HUH HUH

My take on Mac in that game was that he was just saying shit while waiting for Marmot’s replacement to go through.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:37 pm I have my vote already decided. It wasn't hard. Sorry mafia.
Time to go back in time and kill epi before he can sign up for the game.

What do you mean?

Zephyrus was an indy who was stealing people for his sexual cavern

Zephyrus and Quin, who do you think we should lynch?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:13 am
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:31 am nutella is a civ and either one of mac and golden is bad
This.

I think it’s Golden. He’s super cautious with his wording and he’s slognrly agreeable to many people’s thoughts without actually committing. So he’s voting Quin.

But I’m keeping my vote on Zeph

Why would you keep your vote on Zeph then?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:27 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:57 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:13 am
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:31 am nutella is a civ and either one of mac and golden is bad
This.

I think it’s Golden. He’s super cautious with his wording and he’s slognrly agreeable to many people’s thoughts without actually committing. So he’s voting Quin.

But I’m keeping my vote on Zeph
Why would you keep your vote on Zeph then?
Because at least Golden is contributing

But scum don’t actually contribute to a pro-town effort

Can speed or someone on desktop get me some of those uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ISO links

The ISO glance I just did confirmed that there are several users whose contributions/interactions thus far mirror Zephyrus’ or are off-topic: Lapluie, Lunalee, Choutas, Spacedaisy. Y’all should tell us who feels fishy.

Oh, and insertnamehere.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:55 pm You too Colin

I’m town. Not so sure about that Scotty fella.

Scotty’s posts have been sussing me out and, while not all too similar to what I saw from him as scum D1 in Easter, that would probably be deliberate on his part.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine for now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:33 pmColin oi

Hm?

Golden’s reaction to Mac’s extremely light prodding just felt weird to me. I dunno.

Golden, what was your last scum game here?

I’m a little buzzed and wondering if Scotty and Golden are teammates trying some scum theatrics on us D1. If I cracked the game open this early y’all can just tell me.

Probably at least one scum laying super low right now too. There always is at this point.

Kinda want all those people who haven’t said much to get in here and say stuff

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:39 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:18 pm Kinda want all those people who haven’t said much to get in here and say stuff
Stuff

Who do you want dead?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:54 pm I garauntee you Golden is bad.

Definitely going to have to evaluate him further when I am not falling asleep and kinda drunk

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:11 am I would policy lynch Epignosis right now.

What’s the policy?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:34 am Dislike scotty not realizing they were in the same game then voting when he did it's odd

This is sig’s only rationale for voting Scotty. I don’t think it’s very good. He forgot things while we were scum together, but that cannot be alignment indicative. It’s not as if as town you just suddenly remember things better, and while he could be bluffing, what advantage does he gain there?

This is not a point in Scotty’s favor necessarily because I think his remarks about Golden don’t make sense but rather it is a point against sig.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:02 pm My second suspect is Golden. I think he's posturing.

We’re mindmelding this game!

Like nice haircut man

Scotty again voices suspicions of Golden but fails to act on them.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:17 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:14 pm Golden’s reaction to Mac’s extremely light prodding just felt weird to me. I dunno.

Golden, what was your last scum game here?
I can’t recall. Might be as far back as 2016.

I guarantee you I’ve never taken day one suspicion in any of them, though. I’ve been lynched day one many times in my mafia career. Town every time. This time would be no different.

I’ll lol if epi is the person who needs me alive. Someone does.

More interested in hearing about this last line, too. What exactly are you saying Golden?

I am also wondering if Epi’s characterization of Zephyrus here is something the rest of you agree with.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:41 pm
Zephyrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:00 pm
Let's do some time stuff!
Invited people to do stuff.

Has done nothing.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

I agree with the base argument that it is a likely scumtell if someone attempts to adopt an appearance of contributing without actually doing the work. I am not so sure that’s what Zephyrus is doing.

Put it this way: is his statement closer to “People should figure out who’s scum” (an invitation to do stuff) or “I am here and ready for the game” (a statement related to speef’s desire for us to check in). I am leaning toward the latter, but I want to hear from everybody else.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:02 pm My second suspect is Golden. I think he's posturing.

We’re mindmelding this game!

Like nice haircut man
Scotty again voices suspicions of Golden but fails to act on them.

I should note too that Scotty does go on to voice opposition and argue with Golden, but not until afteer this. There are a lot of people in this thread not exactly putting their money where their mouth is when it comes to voicing relatively strong suspicions so maybe I am wrong to slight Scotty for it alone.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:13 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:02 pm My second suspect is Golden. I think he's posturing.

We’re mindmelding this game!

Like nice haircut man
Scotty again voices suspicions of Golden but fails to act on them.
I already said I wasn’t voting golden today

Shades of “I’m not voting JJJ” in Easter? If you’re suspicious of him, why not?

I’ve speed-ISO’d Scotty, Golden, Zephyrus, Epignosis and a few others who will remain unnamed for now but I’m not exactly satisfied with my findings. Neither Scotty nor Golden look that great so maybe buzzed Colin was onto something.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:23 pm Also Colin when were we mafia together?

Sorry, I meant when Scotty and I were scum in Easter.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:33 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:13 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:02 pm My second suspect is Golden. I think he's posturing.

We’re mindmelding this game!

Like nice haircut man
Scotty again voices suspicions of Golden but fails to act on them.
I already said I wasn’t voting golden today
Shades of “I’m not voting JJJ” in Easter? If you’re suspicious of him, why not?
Shades of im not changing my D1 meta regardless of alignment so I don’t get lynched D1.

Seems to fucking backfire a lot though

Oh — so you’re saying you won’t vote for an active player on D1 out of principle/intentional meta?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:09 pm Golden responded to Scotty/Epi's initial proddery with swift, harsh overkill that felt like way too damn much.

I agre with this to an extent, but moreso for his behavior toward Mac that I talked about.

Then, Golden did that thing that I'll always dislike, where he starts referring to himself in the third person, and talks about how "Civ Golden" always takes heat on Day 1, and "Scum Golden" has never even gotten a vote on Day 1. Therefore, if Golden gets attention on Day 1, according to Golden, that means that he must be civilian. But this opens up a bit of a paradox.

If Golden's a civilian, then we shouldn't vote for him Day 1. However, if Golden doesn't receive any votes on Day 1, he's incredibly more likely to be scum, and should be lynched ASAP. So, either we don't vote for Golden, and let a scummeister slip on by, or vote for Golden and mislynch a civilian.

Or, y'know, we could fucking ignore people when they explain their own metas, because it's literally meaningless. The second someone proclaims their own meta style of gameplay, it's unrepresentative of their gameplay. If you're intelligent enough to realize, oh, I do this when I'm good, and I do this when I'm bad, you're also smart enough to realize that you should, if you are bad, try doing the things that you usually do when good.

I love this.

Ahem. It appears that Scotty is unwilling to vote for Golden. Which makes no goddamn sense to me.

I see the logic in not jettisoning strong town voices but I disagree with it and it’s not a good look for him considering he and I did basically the same thing a month ago to JJJ in Easter. Could go either way but it really does make Scotty’s views toward Golden seem less genuine if he won’t actually do anything about it while he has the chance.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:49 pm Can people PLEASE learn to snip quote chains jesus i'm so sick of scrolling past the same gif 5000 times

What, you mean like here?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:42 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:39 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:33 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:13 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm

We’re mindmelding this game!

Like nice haircut man
Scotty again voices suspicions of Golden but fails to act on them.
I already said I wasn’t voting golden today
Shades of “I’m not voting JJJ” in Easter? If you’re suspicious of him, why not?
Shades of im not changing my D1 meta regardless of alignment so I don’t get lynched D1.

Seems to fucking backfire a lot though
Oh — so you’re saying you won’t vote for an active player on D1 out of principle/intentional meta?
Yep. Because if I’m wrong and a big potential town talker I’d eliminated, we’ve got some ghosts taking their spot and ghosts are 2spooky4me

Golden, you can say “this is my town meta” all you want, but it doesn’t mean much and to my eyes you are acting differently than in previous games where I played you and you were town. I don’t recall you being a D1 lynch in either AG or U-Pick, I don’t recall you reacting to suspicions so severely and I don’t recall you labeling half the game with scumreads right out the gate.

As far as Choutas’s meta goes I don’t know. If you read Easter his lynch basically materialized out of nowhere and he had like 3 posts. I see the obvious comparison between this game and that.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:22 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:17 pm Golden, you can say “this is my town meta” all you want, but it doesn’t mean much and to my eyes you are acting differently than in previous games where I played you and you were town. I don’t recall you being a D1 lynch in either AG or U-Pick, I don’t recall you reacting to suspicions so severely and I don’t recall you labeling half the game with scumreads right out the gate.
Seriously, Golden hard core did a no u in U-Pick. How do you not recall that? he and dunya got heated in Day 1. Golden reacts when he feels railroaded as a civ by bs accusations and that's what I think I'm seeing here too.

Hmm, yeah, that did happen but the conversation here feels very different. I don’t recall him using the argument “but this is what I actually do as scum” but maybe I lost track. Point Golden — I think my other ones stand.

For example, Golden has offered relatively strong scum reads or accusations of fake behavior against these users: Quin, Epignosis, Scotty, insertnamehere

Scotty has done the same, or voiced his favor for a lynch, for Zephyrus, Golden, Spacedaisy, Choutas, and a few maybe-serious-maybe-not votes for sig and insertnamehere.

Is it just me, or does wildly vacillating between all these people seem kinda weird (particularly for Scotty)?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:32 pm Is this a question about Scotty or golden?

Both. Golden moreso for the severity he offers while still being fine switching tacks to whomever is fighting him the hardest.

Spacedaisy is reading the thread, but [mention]Kylemii[/mention] [mention]lapluie[/mention] we want yr votes

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:06 pm Why vote for Sig tonight?

- Great leader
- Brilliant friend
- Amazing adjective user
- Hasn't been scum for years so can't be in this game since statstics or something
- Trustworthy
- JUst came off an amazing win in U-Pick
- Team player
- basically an unkillable super omnipotent time god
- BONUS REASON Imma be president in the reaaaaaaal someday, and I'll remember those who vote for me here. I'm not saying I'll abuse my power as a form of a bribe, buuuuuuuuuuut I'll totally give you a bribe.

Why are you thinking about this when the lynch is still so up in the air? Wouldn’t you like to catch scum?

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