The Syndicate

The end of Deathly Hallows always makes me emotional 'n shit.

I got a Ravenclaw in Pottermore, but being confirmed civ by being in Gryffindor ain't bad either

But also, Pottermore said my patronus was a buzzard, which is just insulting.

I've heard insane things about Ohio U's Halloween.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1 MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:15 pm Scum

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:15 pm

Scum

So who’s going to ask Glorfindel if he’s bad?

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:26 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:08 pm So who’s going to ask Glorfindel if he’s bad?
To be honest, this whole mess had completely slipped my mind. It’s hard for me to know what to do here - do I refuse to answer and get lynched by a rabid Town or answer it and put a target on my back Night 1? Either way, I guess it suggests a short stay for me this game...

Nah you’re good, I was making a joke about Firefly.

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:10 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:01 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:24 pm Oh, by the way, I checked Turnip Head and he is bad.

Voting Turnip Head.

Epi aren't the abilities used at night? We haven't had a game night yet. Or am I missing something (there were A LOT of things to digest in game Set-Up).
Hey all! Just want to point out that I find it difficult to believe that juliets was confused by this post. Like, even I can remember that people say shit like this on day 1. Thank you.

I wanna agree, but also this set-up is so complicated that I can buy it in this case.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 pm I lost money because the Packers discovered they had running backs.

So if I'm pissy tonight, do pardon me.

I think at least one of those running backs lost a lot of money too.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:32 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:37 amMy personal view is that Jay is a fellow of superior intellect and capable of analysis far beyond that of mere mortals. On that basis, if he’s Town, I’d much prefer him on our side. If by some fluke he’s bad, he’ll reveal himself later down the track. I think he’s far more useful to us alive.
Eh? What makes you say this? I have seen JJJ win as a baddie with everyone fooled.

Agreed — I don’t know how a bad JJJ revealing himself is an inevitability. Glorf’s posts about protecting JJJ almost feel like TMI, if Glorf is bad and JJJ is not

Epi and Owner are town.

Glorf is actually probably town too, but that post hinges on the “if”.

I think at least some of the people in the Epi-juliets debate are bad because I refuse to believe all the pearl-clutching about is sincere

Has Nova shown up yet? If not, my vote is going there.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:10 pm I'm going to have essentially zero time until Tuesday night or Wednesday. While I'm not here y'all best find excuses to do work and not excuses to do fuck all. Epi's recent grumbles are valid.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine, because he said some shit I didn't like earlier. He provided a token response to Epi's dig at juliets which just looked like "this is where I am supposed to interject with this here comment" instead of "this is a problem and I want to address it".
This is the post in question:
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:29 pm juliets and I are not teammates.

There. Go. Find bad guys.
so you know you're on different teams
I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't have read anything at all into Quin saying that, and the fact that Jay did is a little weird.

Agree strongly with Luna here

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:06 pmMy comment was that we are not mafia partners because I like to discuss things with my mafia teammates, and I "spoiled" something for juliets (even though I PUT THE DAMN THING IN SPOILER TAGS), so we are not bad together in BTSC.
This logic seems unsound. Do you mean that you pre-discuss everything you say in the thread with your teammates when you're bad?

Like this right here. If civs weren’t capable of “unsound logic” then we’d never lose a game. Pedantic.

This one too:

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:11 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:06 pmMy comment was that we are not mafia partners because I like to discuss things with my mafia teammates, and I "spoiled" something for juliets (even though I PUT THE DAMN THING IN SPOILER TAGS), so we are not bad together in BTSC.
This logic seems unsound. Do you mean that you pre-discuss everything you say in the thread with your teammates when you're bad?
There isn't any logic to it. I've been bad with juliets before, and juliets loves chat (see: discord). We would have been talking this stuff up, and juliets asks questions about things even when bad.

So my point is this:

juliets and I are not bad teammates together.

Use that. Work with it. Bye.
....I don't understand. Why would your question about when the spoilery thing happened in the series have come up in btsc with juliets rather than in the thread HP talk? Why are you drawing a connection to juliets before there was one?

I got a strong town tone-read from this post of Owner’s:

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:12 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 am what about me, owner? Give DH a break and flag me for a bit.
You knowing the intricacies of the Dark Arts stuff and sharing it could be an act to try to buy townie points. I remember reading the stuff about it but not nearly picking up enough about it to understand it all. Basically, if someone had or possessed Dark Arts abilities this game, they would probably read up on it or make sure they understood their abilities.

Technically, what you said is some form of mechanical-talk or a retelling of information, in which some of it is free to us. But it doesn't necessarily solve us the game or anything.

It's potenitally the kind of post meant to look like a person is being useful, but in reality, they aren't truly really adding to the thread.

Epi is town because he is.

Maybe I’ll vote Jay. Get some nice wagons going, see what’s what.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:34 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:22 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:06 pmMy comment was that we are not mafia partners because I like to discuss things with my mafia teammates, and I "spoiled" something for juliets (even though I PUT THE DAMN THING IN SPOILER TAGS), so we are not bad together in BTSC.
This logic seems unsound. Do you mean that you pre-discuss everything you say in the thread with your teammates when you're bad?
Like this right here. If civs weren’t capable of “unsound logic” then we’d never lose a game. Pedantic.
Ok, but you're putting your own extra ideas into this and implying that they're mine. My post said "I don't understand, Epi can you clarify?", not "Looks like bad logic and therefore a bad alignment."

Fair enough but I don’t really get why this all needed so much clarification and hemming and hawwing in the first place. It feels like the kind of thing (bad) people latch onto because they have nothing real to question.

Okay, but Yun Qui was the best ship.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:47 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:57 am Epi and Owner are town.
I agree about epi but why owner?

I felt good about that post that I think everyone is arguing about rn. Owner’s response about associating those terms sounds fake though. But also ... can someone tell me why that would be a scumslip in the first place

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 pm Can't we just state we're Town so whoever have the Veritaserum can use it whenever they want to whoever they want without asking their sus about it (so not giving a hint/clue about them having the potion)?

This is obviously a good idea, right? Any objections?

I am town.

People don’t have to say stuff if they don’t want to say stuff. But I got nothing to hide.

I’m not saying it’s a silver bullet, but if we want to make the job even slightly easier for a townie who has Veritaserum, well that’s how you do it. I’m aware having everyone do it makes it harder to catch scum, but not any harder than it is already.

I’m a little sketched by the protests here. Like, obviously it’s not going to win the game on D1 and if you don’t give a shit then don’t do it, but this is almost anti-town.

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:32 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:14 pm I am town tho
I'm not town. Lie detect that. It'll come back untrue.

Why did you quote Speed’s post when you made yours?

I can’t remember who said it (Quin?) but on my drive home I couldn’t escape the post where someone said Jay looked like he was doing Jay things, but it felt fake and insincere. It was in reference to the juliets brouhaha. I can try and quote it later, but I’m putting my vote there today.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Ok, this is the post:

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:06 pm Alright, I'm now caught up.

Most of the Day so far has just been two different squabbles over semantics. The whole Epi-Juliets thing has been more or less baffling in its scattershot legitimacy. It's the kind of thing that JJJ usually pushes, except with less actual substance, which makes me a tad sus of JJJ. Then there's the whole Owner/DH thing. It definitely feels like Owner is stuck replaying Firefly, while the rest of us are playing a new game. This regression could be scummy or not, depends on what else Owner decides to bring to the table. So far, I ain't impressed.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:36 am JJJ and TH have their assorted trains. I don't have townreads on either of them, so I don't hate it. I'll see if I can go back and get a detailed read off the day's posts.

Still want to put out there that Nova hasn't checked in, and as such is a fun lynch option. Not necessarily a GOOD lynch option (no way of knowing that), but one that will allow night actions to be taken by a greater number of active players.

I think there were some replacements signed up, so leaving Nova for now wouldn’t be the worst thing.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:42 am also i [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

Why?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:00 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:49 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:42 am also i [VOTE: timmer] aubergine
Why?
Took a dump on truth-gate while contributing to it.

Oh yeah. I read that earlier and forgot. Thanks.

How would you compare that to Speed’s reaction to the same exercise?

Still want to lynch 3J, but Owner isn’t a bad call either.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:01 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:59 pm Still want to lynch 3J, but Owner isn’t a bad call either.
Which posts changed your mind?

I think in general your responses under pressure, tonally, have something suspicious about them, like you’re fighting to survive by any means necessary. Could be town, but I tend to think of it as a scumtell.

If 3J is bad some heavy interference has been ran by his teammates today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:49 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:47 pm If 3J is bad some heavy interference has been ran by his teammates today.
Name them.

*waves sand dramatically*

Spoiler: show
*sneers*

No.

If TH is good, Owner still deserves scrutiny. If Owner is bad, check TH’s wagon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:14 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:49 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:47 pm If 3J is bad some heavy interference has been ran by his teammates today.
Name them.

*waves sand dramatically*

Spoiler: show
*sneers*

No.
Then what’s the point of saying this?

My new meta I’m trying out is not responding to things I don’t feel like responding to. I was just giving you a courtesy call.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:12 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:06 pm If TH is good, Owner still deserves scrutiny. If Owner is bad, check TH’s wagon.
Even though I didn't vote there...hmm. It's kind of funny how one-sided this is.

Your vote is irrelevant in it, imo

I feel for the environment defense but whoever said you looked like you were desperate and over-explaining (Speed?) had it exactly right. I’m sorry if people are wrong about it and you actually are just struggling with the heat but it’s something I’ve seen (and done) too many times in badness before

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:19 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:15 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:14 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:49 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:47 pm If 3J is bad some heavy interference has been ran by his teammates today.
Name them.

*waves sand dramatically*

Spoiler: show
*sneers*

No.
Then what’s the point of saying this?
My new meta I’m trying out is not responding to things I don’t feel like responding to. I was just giving you a courtesy call.
Based on your old meta, your new meta is scummy.

Anybody who claims to be able to read TH is a liar. Hate that wagon and hate it even more now.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:41 pm Yeah just for that post and to break the tie for above reason, [VOTE: TH] aubergine Love ya buddy but you're not gonna fool me twice chicken soup with rice

Like what even is this. TH’s post said “No don’t do it” so ... you vote them ???

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:59 pm Don't really have time to catch up before the lynch, but I can see from the Who Posted list that Nova still hasn't checked in so I will vote there today.

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

Major scum afraid of being the decisive vote vibes here.

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:08 pm Ugh, bullzeye whiffs on trying to comment on the trains and votes a missing player?

Timmer is so town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:24 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:18 pm In my mind, Jay has no reason to feel worried about his meta if he flips town. This only looks bad for his meta if he's, well, bad. He made a point of worrying about his meta, which is why he looks bad to me.
There’s one.

This is only one step short of saying “JJJ admitted he is a mafioso in broad daylight because he had two votes early on Day 1”

There’s no way you believe in what you just typed.

[VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

This isn’t anywhere close to what TH even said or meant. I have no idea what the legitimate thought process behind this post is. I’m driving to 3J’s house right now.

I think DH came by his view on TH honestly but it was a bad call.

Good:
Epignosis
timmer
DH
INH
Poutanko
Quin
Karavalenge
Jack

Wary:
Kyle
Glorf
Juliets
Long Con
Lunalee
Speedchuck

Shit List:
JJJ
Bullzeye
Owner
Soneji
Mac
Nutella

N/A:
lapluie
Nova

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:06 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:51 pm Good:
Epignosis
timmer
DH
INH
Poutanko
Quin
Karavalenge
Jack

Wary:
Kyle
Glorf
Juliets
Long Con
Lunalee
Speedchuck

Shit List:
JJJ
Bullzeye
Owner
Soneji
Mac
Nutella

N/A:
lapluie
Nova
Oh behave I haven't even been paying attention to the game.

That’s what rustles my jimmies.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:30 pm Owner can you please expand briefly on those four scum reads, or direct me to already existing explanations
Colin and Luna both read me town, but then also voted for me. Both of them seem opportunistic.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:49 pm I think Colin is scum. Even before the flip, he was setting this up.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:06 pm If TH is good, Owner still deserves scrutiny. If Owner is bad, check TH’s wagon.
He read me town for a little bit, but the instant things started going south for me he quickly did what felt like a 180 to me and pushed for my lynch.

Or basically, this whole if-then situation is particularly bad when both wagons are positioned on good players, which I feel like Colin knows this.
Luna had sort of a tunnel vision or was quick to think me asking what changed Colin's mind meant in her mind that I was asking where I went wrong.

I guess imo it feels like they weren't truly reading me as town to begin with. Or how else could they make the leap to vote for me?

Kara is picture tell read.

Poutanko is lacking activity or vocal presence in the thread. Town!poutanko felt very noticeable to me in past games. She just appears to be different. Also the popcorn emote is sometimes associated with scum watching town destroy each other.

I didn’t vote for you.

If I die tonight, the mafia are fucking idiots.

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