The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:23 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:46 pmHey
What got you so scared?

Huh?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:34 pm is day 0 just pregame shenanigans or can i actually lynch scum today before I die

We often start accusing each other in Day 0 but voting is still not allowed.

You can also flood the thread with useless stuff but somebody will probably come up with a way to analyse your alignment based on that fluff which will look silly in retrospect after the game ends.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:14 pm Also what’s with the hype for RDW? Is he a mafia god or something

He's mafia's Loki.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

All according to keikaku

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:28 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad
All according to keikaku
what?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/just-acc ... to-keikaku

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:54 pm One thing that concerns me about JJJ's town read of me: he knows I play exactly the same way regardless of alignment

Last game I played with you everyone who read you as civ was more sure of it than they were sure the Earth is round.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

Alright I'm probably being too harsh. But explain to me why No Lynch is a good idea.

Gemma wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:13 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:54 pm One thing that concerns me about JJJ's town read of me: he knows I play exactly the same way regardless of alignment
Last game I played with you everyone who read you as civ was more sure of it than they were sure the Earth is round.
what is the relevance of your comment to the post you quoted

RDW thinks he's hard to read but I'm telling him that's not a popular opinion.

In the game in question we were both civ and I started a long crusade to get him lynched.

Everyone kept telling me I was wrong and he was so obviously civ.

He was civ in the end. Obviously.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine
[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

What do you think of no lynches?

Upon further consideration I think they have some merit, but I want to hear it from other people. Mainly [mention]speedchuck[/mention]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:53 pm What do you think of no lynches?
They're fabulous. My favorite.

What do you think of them in this day phase of this game?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:09 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:53 pm Upon further consideration I think they have some merit, but I want to hear it from other people. Mainly speedchuck
If you think they have merit, what's with the vote?

Because I'm an impulsive motherfucker.

Now can someone answer my question?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:59 pm DDL, why wasn't your first though Speedchuck is messing around?

Cuz I think he's not.

Basically I voted you reflexively and now I'm trying to save face.

Also can't unvote in this site.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

Guys

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_Defense

You're welcome.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine
Oof. Remember all the times DDL didn't do shit like this?

Really? I don't.

The pattern you found is cute but it's NAI.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:35 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.
There is only ever one scenario to vote no lynch and Day 1 ain't it.

I just described a different game as an example but logical reasoning doesn't work with you, so I won't insist.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Placeholder since I dont want to lynch speed anymore

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:36 am I kind of want to vote JJJ. I enjoy playing with him, and it has been awhile since we last played. But I also feel like I'm not quite yet seeing the Jay that I've seen before in 2 other games I played with him. Is that enough to go by? I don't know. Have I only seen his town game? I think so. Then again he might play different with a power role in hand, so maybe that's why he appears different. Or he could be generally busy, but I'm not suppose to make excuses for him. I'm just suppose to read what the thread gives me. Or maybe some games does Jay not get serious super early on? In my mind, it would be hard to maintain a talkative or inquisitive facade like every single game.

M Plus 7, also provided slank or "slang", so I know he's busy, but I still require more from him to really have a solid read on him. I have seen other players (not him) who are generally talkative people who provide slank but still end up posting through the roof as mostly town people; there were some scum outliers though.

Gemma's birds seem fine and fluffy. I like that she is in the thread and posting at least. Could use more content to go by, because the thread seems lacking of it.

Nova, I like so far. Not sure or can't remember if I read him correctly the last time we played together or maybe I was scum that game. Who knows? I guess I want longer content from him. It seems like a lot of his posts are a bit on the shorter side. That as general note seems a little suspicious or holding your thoughts too close to yourself.

I'll be gone for a lot of today unfortunately. I hope to be back on in 12 hours.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine Right now, you are the most different to me. I suggest doing something to change my mind or find someone scummier. I hope to see some effort when i get back. (aka I wanted to play with you more, but I can't be your buddy if you are scum)

Not a fan of this post. I feel like attacking Jay/MP for lower than usual post volume is pretty shallow in terms of how much you can analyse someone. And from what I've seen recently you don't do swallow, you go pretty far in analysing people.

Heck, coming from you, I would have expected an essay on what the expressions on Gemma's bird's faces mean about her subconscious re: her alignment. Not that I'm demanding that, but point is, I'd expect you to use your little free time to do way more interesting things than what you're doing now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:20 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:18 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:36 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:26 am Lol do I need to cite sources for you?
Sure. I don't need you to reference some exact post in the other game, but gimme a brief description of the parallel you're drawing regarding DDL.
In Addams Family, I voted Mac for basically no reason. DDL and Juliets (the mafia) jumped on this and voted me. DDL in particular posted some well poisoning bs along with it.

DDL was lynched for this. Juliets also went back and found plenty of examples of DDL random voting in the past, which made it look like his reaction to my random vote was bull in order to bus him.

Two key things are that this is about no lynch voting, not random voting. And also DDL would maybe be careful to not overextend himself again so soon as scum.

Not quite as locked in as I was thinking last night but it’s still a bad reaction to Speed’s vote. Like I don’t believe DDL thinks Speed is bad for voting no lynch.
Dragon D. Luffy have a go at it

Sometimes I overextend myself and sometimes I don't.

This has happened multiple times as both civ and scum.

I don't even know for sure if it happens more as civ or scum. It's just a way I deal with the game, I find a suspect and attack them until I realize I'm wrong, and the act of realizing I'm wrong takes a bit of effort every time, and may or may not be succesful. If I'm scum, I try to mimic that to varying results too.

I get Jack's point I just think the meta-based approach of it is flawed. Trying to figure out what I'm thinking in this particular game probably works better. Heck, if I got lynched in Addams and other games it was because people didnt think I was being genuine. Not because of meta.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:18 pm DDL what do you think of the interactions resulting from your vote.

I think speed feels civ.

I'm paranoid about anyone who defends me but that is normal.

And I think you are asking way too many questions. You are more aggressive when you are a civ,

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:44 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:37 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:35 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.
There is only ever one scenario to vote no lynch and Day 1 ain't it.
I just described a different game as an example but logical reasoning doesn't work with you, so I won't insist.
that's not very nice

You play a few games with him and you'll understand why I'm doing it.

H's a very rational person, but getting him to admit reason from other people is... complicated.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

Ok so I guess I'm allowed to point out how nova is different than in the other game now?

Cuz he totally is.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.
This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.
I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:16 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.
This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.
I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.
This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.
You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.

Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:23 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:23 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:46 pmHey
What got you so scared?
Huh?
This is a mafioso. Lock it in Eddie.

What

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:33 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:24 pm I'm paranoid about anyone who defends me but that is normal.
who

A few people did

Not keeping a list

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:06 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:05 pm Ok so I guess I'm allowed to point out how nova is different than in the other game now?

Cuz he totally is.
Please explain how

Civ nova is a pain in the ass.

My ass is doing fine.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:14 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:27 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:44 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:37 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:35 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.
There is only ever one scenario to vote no lynch and Day 1 ain't it.
I just described a different game as an example but logical reasoning doesn't work with you, so I won't insist.
that's not very nice
You play a few games with him and you'll understand why I'm doing it.

H's a very rational person, but getting him to admit reason from other people is... complicated.
Everybody's logic is valid and nobody's reasoning is ever bad. Now let's hold hands and sing Kumbaya.

Sorry for the outburst Epi I shouldn't bash you like that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:23 pm Let me say it in other words.

Nova asking questions is not a reason to scum read him. It is also an argument that I was tempted to make when I was scum because I had nothing better to say.

Weak case making dressed in the guise of good case making.

DDL is bad. Back to DDL.

The case aint just "nova is asking questions"

If nova was asking questions and also tunneling the fuck out of someone while being a general pain in the ass it would be fine.

He's just prodding random peoplr all game. I'm yet to see if he intends to do anything with those answers. Like, you know, scumhunting.

Jack is a civ.

My paranoia can't keep that feeling from coming out.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:50 pm I like town Nova. Weird thing to say.

Town nova is awesome.

This game's ain't it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:51 pm DDL read Nova's ISO again. You will see muchos scum hunting imo.

The burden of proof belongs to whoever says something exists.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:16 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:05 pm Ok so I guess I'm allowed to point out how nova is different than in the other game now?

Cuz he totally is.
Everyone: you’re scummy!!!
DDL: fine I’ll hoard all my thoughts right here and then one day I’ll die

I had to wait for nova to die in the other game to point that out.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:23 pm Let me say it in other words.

Nova asking questions is not a reason to scum read him. It is also an argument that I was tempted to make when I was scum because I had nothing better to say.

Weak case making dressed in the guise of good case making.

DDL is bad. Back to DDL.
The case aint just "nova is asking questions"

If nova was asking questions and also tunneling the fuck out of someone while being a general pain in the ass it would be fine.

He's just prodding random peoplr all game. I'm yet to see if he intends to do anything with those answers. Like, you know, scumhunting.
How do you feel about gemma then?

Not sure.

I care what I look like.

Well, some of the time.

Saying things is more important than preserving myself.

But unsaying stupid things in order to preserve myself isn't bad.

There are two day phases ending at the same time. I have voted in this one but not in the other.

So... see you next phase.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:14 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:13 pm MODS, why are there two Dragon D. Luffys on Nova? Did someone change their name or what?

@Sloonei
now it is back to normal...idk what happened

This happens all the time. Just F5.

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm So like, is there a way to pull vote history or did y’all just expect me to take a screen shot of the poll

Nah this is a limitation of the site. Most you can do is check when people claimed their votes in the thread, and yell at people who don't do that.

I caught up this morning and found myself having to realign my reads.

Nova looks super solid in light of the ultra lynch.

Epi looks a little fishy for trying to piggyback on my nova case.

Still don't like Owner.

Not getting a good vibe from Soneji. Him having a low post count is normal, but he normally comes at the end with a bunch of attacks against players and is sure of thing. Here he feels more... basic.

Mac is giving me a civ vibe. Compared to the other game where he was very tame, here he's pissed off. I like pissed off Mac.

RDW needs to come down to the playground.

Neutral on the rest.

The Gemma case last day comes accross at people suspecting her because she's weird and nothing more.

Like, so she has a lot of posts and no results. Who the hell cares. That's a valid playstyle even if you don't like it.

I'm not saying I read her a civ yet but I don't enjoy that line of thought at all. Also I think Jay was the one who came up with it, so if you guys wanna shade him I suggest looking at his Gemma cases.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:37 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm This reeks of chainsaw defense.
You know, isn't Ultra technically chainsaw defending DDL here when he attacks JJJ here? Especially even more as Ultra went to make his stance and vote on JJJ. I mean, he's technically defending DDL by attacking JJJ's vote on DDL calling it out as a chainsaw defense. This makes me sus of DDL even more.

novaselinenever I understand your case against JJJ but I press x to doubt that he's buddies with Ultra. The latter made his case and vote against JJJ and it's not like Ultra was in any danger of being lynched at that time for a distance attempt to make sense here, so what Ultra's fake case on JJJ is not coming off as a bus or distance imo. Also, I'm strong scum reading Owner and she also made her wishy washy case against JJJ, who again Ultra used for his fake case, so I definitely see more of a pairing between two buddies going against one townie there.

Dragomir if all you do in the game is place a picture of me on your wall and throw shit at it you are going to be lynched before I am.

Protip: contrary to NF, in this site screaming harder won't instantly make 10 lazy townies join your wagon. Either you succeed at convincing them or you don't.

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