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- Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:13 am
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- Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:49 am
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
I love those write-ups. That's some creative way to justify a game where roles are songs.
- Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:28 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
I am playing but there is a lack of scumhuntable posts that I can talk about.
Someone overreact about something silly so another person can be shady about it and then I can vote for them.
Someone overreact about something silly so another person can be shady about it and then I can vote for them.
- Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:49 pm
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- Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:35 pm
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- Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:58 am
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
I also have a hunch on LC
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Feels like hes more self-contained than usual or something.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Feels like hes more self-contained than usual or something.
- Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:52 am
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
That's the most underwhelming reasoning anyone has ever given to sheeping on my vote.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:09 am I voted for LC because DDL's post is the first post I read and I think it's important that we work together even if DDL is scum because I don't know if he is or isn't so taking a punt on that is good.
In a poll that includes votes without reasoning.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:12 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
Hey guys sorry for missing juicy part of the phase. Yesterday was a pretty full day for me.
Time to catch up.
Time to catch up.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:31 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
I love this method maybe I'll use it.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:14 pm bimbo 0/5
Creature 1/5
Dom 4/5
Dragon D. Luffy 1/5
DrWilgy 1/5
Dyslexicon 5/5
Epignosis 4/5
Long Con 2/5
MacDougall 1/5
Quin 0/5
sig 3/5
Sloonei 3/5
Sorsha 0/5
timmer 2/5
So here’s a rating of players and roughly how much they’ve left an impression on me. I’d expect this to correlate to post count.
Sorted:
Dizzy - 69 (nice)
Epi - 21
Dom - 10
Sloonei - 41
Sig - 12
Timmer -18
LC - 18
Wilgy - 10
DDL - 7
Creature - 28
Mac - 3
Quin
Sorsha
Bimbo
The idea with this is I tend to get the idea that scum players get in less fights or leave less an impression. That’s not foolproof, but whenever I get a “meh” feeling about someone it’s usually because they’re posting but I don’t feel like I remember what they’re saying or they seem to have just a few set goals in mind.
Standouts: Creature is low but that’s semi-expected on meta. Dom is high, probably town look for him. Sig is probably high on recency bias. Everything else is mostly in line.
Result: slight town read on Dom, no other changes
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:46 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
I was the one who said it but it also had a 0% correlation with scum alignment.Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:08 pmi hereby dub it the Aubergine Tell.
So that tell is garbage. Unless you wanna argue that not aubergining makes you civ.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:55 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
If it helps I also have a hard time having detailed pictures of most people's metas and I think most meta talk is balooney and heavily influenced by games recently played. People aren't that good at remembering metas, that's what I mean. So don't feel too bad for it.timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:46 pm Sloon, much of your post just mirrors what happens to me every time I play now, which is rarely. I post complete honesty about my thoughts and how my perma-damaged memory works, people find my working odd, I get lynched, I'm town. Rinse, repeat.
I've had multiple concussions in my life, one bad enough to hospitalize me. I had posted back in the start of my mafia career about it on the piano and made the Pont that I would never hide behind it as a baddie, and I never have.
My posts aren't contradictions at all, they are a reflection of my reality. I can remember some players' tone and posting style perfectly... others I can kind of remember but im unsure if I trust that memory... and others I can't remember damn thing, it's like they don't exist before this game even though ive played with them before.
But it's ok, I get it, and it's why I don't get ruffled as a civ much, I understand this very well because it happens over and over. I get ruffled as a baddie though, because when I'm bad I try to find a sort of persona and run with it and if things go haywire I get pissed off because it's a lot of work to keep focused on a persona.
Take that as you will.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:14 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
Sig you are amazing.sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:11 pm I sat on the wilgy vote for a long time but I really don't feel up for it. That's not to say he's a town read, but I'd need to be convinced that he's worth voting for. He can be read eventually.
Creature's a player that people always suspect and it's hard to reach a conclusion on him.
Who can read this shit and think wow Sloonie must be a civ. He totally didn't just like through out five names of people who get mislynched alot in an attempt to divert away from LC and himself.
I don't even care what Creature flips at this point, probably civ though, this was just not smart game play. Worst case Sloonie is a civ who has bad judgement buuuuut he's probably mafia.
Never change.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:15 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
I'm nearly caught up but I don't feel like giving mafia hints on who to kill so I'm only commenting on barely relevant stuff.
Will give my rainbows and/or salads day 2.
Will give my rainbows and/or salads day 2.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:20 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
I could have participated on day 1 end but I was travelling without wifi for most of the day.
And then at night I spent hours programming a system for NF mafia that counts how many MVPs people have and awards medals to them based on that. When I finished it I was super tired to catch up.
So I suppose this game lost due to being the least nerdy activity available to me.
And then at night I spent hours programming a system for NF mafia that counts how many MVPs people have and awards medals to them based on that. When I finished it I was super tired to catch up.
So I suppose this game lost due to being the least nerdy activity available to me.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:29 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
You people talked too much between the poll locking and the flip. I have no idea how to interpret alignment in that section because mafia gets to do whatever they want. You were literally speculating on Creature's alignment before the flip.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:18 pmI believe the deadline for sending in actions is past, but thanks for the derp.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:15 pm I'm nearly caught up but I don't feel like giving mafia hints on who to kill so I'm only commenting on barely relevant stuff.
Will give my rainbows and/or salads day 2.
Do you have thoughts on the flip btw?
That means Sig is less awesome for bloating the thread.
Also how do you know what the action deadline was? I probably missed something obvious but asking is easier than reseraching.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:31 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
And speculating on who was being saved if Creature was town. That's a craptacular waste of thread space.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:37 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
Increasing the thread's postcount isn't intrinsically good.
Well whatever, this is not the most active game anyway.
3 pages left.
Well whatever, this is not the most active game anyway.
3 pages left.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:44 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
Okay reads from up to the lynch post
Dizzy and Quin are town as fuck.
Dizzy mostly for the creature thing, Quin for posts too. He's legit genuquin. Protect him.
Sloonei a little less since he was flopping around like Sloonei (while Dizzy and Quin pushed the idea if lynching Creature more strongly), but he still started the final push so I feel like he's town too. Also he does feel a bit more genuine than in the wire but that's hindsight speaking since he fooled me in that game. Sloonei will have to do more to earn my trust from now on. But he gets it for the time being.
Timmer is the member if the Day 1 Mutant Ninja Turtles who benefits the least for this Creature lynch imo. He kind of just went along after the fact. That said he leans a bit civ in post-based reading I guess. Could be wrong here.
Nobody else matters much here since they aren't turtles. Will talk about others later.
Dizzy and Quin are town as fuck.
Dizzy mostly for the creature thing, Quin for posts too. He's legit genuquin. Protect him.
Sloonei a little less since he was flopping around like Sloonei (while Dizzy and Quin pushed the idea if lynching Creature more strongly), but he still started the final push so I feel like he's town too. Also he does feel a bit more genuine than in the wire but that's hindsight speaking since he fooled me in that game. Sloonei will have to do more to earn my trust from now on. But he gets it for the time being.
Timmer is the member if the Day 1 Mutant Ninja Turtles who benefits the least for this Creature lynch imo. He kind of just went along after the fact. That said he leans a bit civ in post-based reading I guess. Could be wrong here.
Nobody else matters much here since they aren't turtles. Will talk about others later.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:45 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
Players bloating two pages speculating on something that is about to be host confirmed is just annoying.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:43 pmPlayers reacting authentically to things is good?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:37 pm Increasing the thread's postcount isn't intrinsically good.
Well whatever, this is not the most active game anyway.
3 pages left.
Maybe I don't fit in here...
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:34 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
Damn I tried not to make it too obvious that Quin was extremely civ but I guess that was obvious to the mafia too.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:34 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I like tony tbh
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:39 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
No seriously I wanted to write poems about how civ Quin was
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:43 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
I mean this is literally the Syndicate.
Last game I did a multi-post analysis which didn't help us win the game at all because it proved both remaining mafiosos had bussed both their 2 teammates, because every player living had voted for those 2 players at once.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:45 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
TSP is mad at the Day 1 Mutant Ninja Turtles treating each other as confirmed.
Could be 2 things.
Rage from a civilian who hates it when other civilians get cocky about a hot potato result (a sentiment I've felt myself before)
or
Rage from a mafioso who just got screwed and is scared at the prospect of 4 confirmed civs on Day 1.
Pick one.
Could be 2 things.
Rage from a civilian who hates it when other civilians get cocky about a hot potato result (a sentiment I've felt myself before)
or
Rage from a mafioso who just got screwed and is scared at the prospect of 4 confirmed civs on Day 1.
Pick one.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:48 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I'm bad at poetry.Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:46 pmyou can still do that, if you wantDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:39 pm No seriously I wanted to write poems about how civ Quin was
But yeah you mindmelded with me a bunch and shut down dumb posts and helped lynch mafia etc.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:49 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
You'd look terrible if you betrayed your fellow turtles at the last moment.timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:47 pm RIP Quin, that's crap.
@DDL, I'm curious to hear more about how you feel like I don't benefit from yesterday's lynch much? If I'm theoretically bad, why didn't I just leave my vote on Long Con? Even if both Long Con and Creature and myself were all bad together, why would I move my vote when by leaving it on Long Con, at the last second there was a tie between Long Con and Creature, which would have meant... no lynch? I can see literally no justification for moving my vote with 5 seconds left if I were bad, so I'd like to hear your thoughts on that.
Really, really terrible.
I mean the other 3 would too but they were floating around the Creature idea multiple times before then. I don't recall you doing it.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:02 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
See, this is why I hate CFDs/hot potatos.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:55 pm Oh, look. Scum hunting!
Sloonei, I have some comments/responses:
- I agree with you that Sig looks likely town from the EoD.
- I don't find Wilgy particularly suspicious, but more null maybe.
- I interpreted the line you're pointing out from Dom differently. But Dom will probably comment on that.
- It's hard to know whether scum knew Creature was the lynch or not until it was pointed out in thread. Depends on who it is and if they were around just at day end. I don't know when the poll disappeared. I also agree that silence or minimal commenting is probably where we will find scum.
What do you think of Tony coming in after the flip and starting to respond to posts and claiming he didn't know what was going on? In short, what do you think about my points against Tony?
All I get from Tony, Dom and Epi after the lynch is just salt or annoyance. Not saying they are all scum, but I'd be highly surprised if none of them where. I'm mostly suspicious of Tony for how he reacted to the lynch. He cleared the four of us begrudgingly, but he did not really change any of his reads otherwise after the flip or did any digging/evaluation for what the flip might mean. He just continues to read Dom and Epi town without question. It doesn't look like town reacting to a lynch and building a world from it. Maybe Dom and Epi are actually town and Tony is trying to win them over. That's just speculation though. The upset/salt towards me also confuses me.
It's not the fast vote changing at EoD. That is annoying but is also kind of fun and might work.
It's how if the hot potato hits scum, the people involved in it turn into absolute nascissists after the fact.
The first time I saw this happen, the game turned so insufferable I ended up getting in a fight with a bunch of people, almost ragequitting, and getting my first non-lylo mislynch in this site. Built some animosities that lasted months after that game.
I mean I get it, you guys scored town points. You don't need to talk about it every two posts. You don't need to assume people who disagree with you are automatically bad, either.
Which is why I won't vote for TSP. His frustration about having to deal with a new formed circle-jerk could be genuine, because I've felt it before.
Fuck hot potatos.
/rant
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:03 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
By the way, civilians lost that game.
The toxic environment created by the hot potato "winners" wasn't worth the trouble.
The toxic environment created by the hot potato "winners" wasn't worth the trouble.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:09 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
Dys is being extremely unpleasant about the "everyone confirmed town" thing and Sloon is being kind of annoying too.timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:08 pmUhm, I'm just challenging you on your thoughts about the lynch, dude. Like... I'm not being toxic? Wtf is this?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:03 pm By the way, civilians lost that game.
The toxic environment created by the hot potato "winners" wasn't worth the trouble.
There is also a witch hunt going on against people who do not agree you 3 are confirmed scum.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:09 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
confirmed town*
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:10 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
Yes, I just came here to throw gasoline everywhere and set it on fire.
Again.... fuck hot potatos.
DDL out. Good night.
Again.... fuck hot potatos.
DDL out. Good night.
- Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:19 pm
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I just remembered something.
Most of the discussion that happened after the hot potato in that game was about how Sig was obviously bad for opposing the hot potato (he was civ).
Which is probably why Sig had such a strong reaction to this game's hot potato. He is another poor soul whose TS experience was scarred by it.
I'm reading him town now.
Most of the discussion that happened after the hot potato in that game was about how Sig was obviously bad for opposing the hot potato (he was civ).
Which is probably why Sig had such a strong reaction to this game's hot potato. He is another poor soul whose TS experience was scarred by it.
I'm reading him town now.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:02 am
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
No, my point is that it makes sense for Sig to hate CFDs and get angry about them because he's one player whose Syndicate experience has been ruined by CFDs before.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:20 pmI feel like most of the response was pro-sig.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:19 pm I just remembered something.
Most of the discussion that happened after the hot potato in that game was about how Sig was obviously bad for opposing the hot potato (he was civ).
Which is probably why Sig had such a strong reaction to this game's hot potato. He is another poor soul whose TS experience was scarred by it.
I'm reading him town now.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:04 am
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Re: The Polka Heist [NIGHT 1]
Ok this is certainly interesting. Albeit I don't see all three of you speaking from the same position.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:11 pmI can only speak for myself, but the town credibility of those who were around at the end of yesterday was established before the lynch went through. The hot potato only happened because we all town read each other, imo. It wasn’t a case of each of us deciding that we were trustworthy because the lynch was successful. We worked together to lynch a player because we trusted each other. I think.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:02 pmSee, this is why I hate CFDs/hot potatos.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:55 pm Oh, look. Scum hunting!
Sloonei, I have some comments/responses:
- I agree with you that Sig looks likely town from the EoD.
- I don't find Wilgy particularly suspicious, but more null maybe.
- I interpreted the line you're pointing out from Dom differently. But Dom will probably comment on that.
- It's hard to know whether scum knew Creature was the lynch or not until it was pointed out in thread. Depends on who it is and if they were around just at day end. I don't know when the poll disappeared. I also agree that silence or minimal commenting is probably where we will find scum.
What do you think of Tony coming in after the flip and starting to respond to posts and claiming he didn't know what was going on? In short, what do you think about my points against Tony?
All I get from Tony, Dom and Epi after the lynch is just salt or annoyance. Not saying they are all scum, but I'd be highly surprised if none of them where. I'm mostly suspicious of Tony for how he reacted to the lynch. He cleared the four of us begrudgingly, but he did not really change any of his reads otherwise after the flip or did any digging/evaluation for what the flip might mean. He just continues to read Dom and Epi town without question. It doesn't look like town reacting to a lynch and building a world from it. Maybe Dom and Epi are actually town and Tony is trying to win them over. That's just speculation though. The upset/salt towards me also confuses me.
It's not the fast vote changing at EoD. That is annoying but is also kind of fun and might work.
It's how if the hot potato hits scum, the people involved in it turn into absolute nascissists after the fact.
The first time I saw this happen, the game turned so insufferable I ended up getting in a fight with a bunch of people, almost ragequitting, and getting my first non-lylo mislynch in this site. Built some animosities that lasted months after that game.
I mean I get it, you guys scored town points. You don't need to talk about it every two posts. You don't need to assume people who disagree with you are automatically bad, either.
Which is why I won't vote for TSP. His frustration about having to deal with a new formed circle-jerk could be genuine, because I've felt it before.
Fuck hot potatos.
/rant
It also makes it impossible for people outside of the tjing to get what you are talking about. Reading the discussion myself, it seemed very possible that one of you could have just been playing along with thw group on purpose.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:15 am
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I'm not asking you to change your reads.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:20 amOk. I read your posts and I'm taking in your perspective. I also think you're likely town.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:09 pmDys is being extremely unpleasant about the "everyone confirmed town" thing and Sloon is being kind of annoying too.
There is also a witch hunt going on against people who do not agree you 3 are confirmed scum.
I think you're not really being very fair here though
.
For example, the reason I responded to Sloonei's post was because that was the post with the most content in and something to comment on. I would respond to any post like that no matter who it's by. It has nothing to do with Sloonei also voting Creature. But this is just normal game solving. This is how town win games. Town needs to identify each other and then work together to narrow the game down and lynch scum.
All I'm doing is pretty plain, regular scum hunting. My only objective is to try to find and lynch scum. I'm not going to scum hunt players I already town read (unless something happens etc). I'm going to spend my energy on those players I can't clear or where I have specific issues. Then I'm going to prod and question and make my mind up.
I was happy we lynched scum. I was happy it got me really good town reads in the process. I can only see that as a good thing. These are valid feelings on my part. I'm honestly very confused by why this is so upsetting. As town you win and lose as a team. There is no one or no few players that wins the game. Everyone who's town do, or nobody does. If town gets scum lynched and if town get a good way of working together, then that is only good news for town. The point is not who can get most town points or cred.
If you look at what I've done since the Creature lynch, it's going straight into trying to further narrow the game down, questioning where I have suspicions or too little info/content. It's not me that's been talking about "cred". It's not me that's been saying Fab 4 or whatever. We got lucky by the Creature lynch. Lucky, while working together to establish a PoE. It's effective.
Of course, if people distrust whoever lynched Creature, they will express that. For example Tony saying he suspects me. And I will respond. There's nothing out of the ordinary there.
While I can feel you on being frustrated, and I think that's valid, it always is, I will also say that it's not very inviting for me when I feel that what I do is regular (and ok, pretty eager) scum hunting, and what I get back is that "you're being unpleasant" and it feels like players are almost upset that we lynched scum. They are upset that I scum hunt. But that is what I need to do to help town win. I don't really understand it.
So if you're town, let's just concentrate on moving forward and how to get the next scum lynched.
This isn't even true. I know for me, I town leaned on Sig the whole game, especially after his reaction before the flip, telling us all off.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:19 pm I just remembered something.
Most of the discussion that happened after the hot potato in that game was about how Sig was obviously bad for opposing the hot potato (he was civ).
It's fine that you want to town read Tony.
But I also don't think your summary of his reaction is accurate.
I hoping you're at least reading my posts and considering, even if you think I'm being unpleasant. I don't know how better to make my point come across.
I appreciate the warning about a divide, as that is indeed a danger for town. But I'm also not going to change my town reads when I don't see no reason to. I really don't know what I can do better, so just please trust me when I say I'm doing my best.
I'm asking you to, for example, stop calling people "salty" for disagreeing with them. I saw a few instances of that in the last page I read and it left a bitter taste in my mouth. It makes me want to avoid interacting with you.
Anyway, I also called you names yesterday and I'm now feeling bad for it, so I'll apologize. I was also overreacting. But I have a very bad memory from a game where players got super unpleasant after a successful hot potato to the point the game turned unfun, and I wanted to prevent that from repeating.
I care about having fun and civil experiences in this forum more than I care about winning games.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:21 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I agree LC has been underwhelming af but then Sloonei posted something about scum LC not being underwhelming that disarmed this idea more or less.
That said... last time this happened was in The Wire where I said Jack was underwhelming and people told me scum Jack never does that. In the end he was scum anyway.
That said... last time this happened was in The Wire where I said Jack was underwhelming and people told me scum Jack never does that. In the end he was scum anyway.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:37 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I might vote Mac or Sorsha if they don't show up. Seems likely that this is an inactive scum team, especially if you assume the four people on Creature are really civ.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:06 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
It's fine. Sorry for being a bit dramatic too.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:04 amOk, I hear you. And I'm sorry.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:15 amI'm asking you to, for example, stop calling people "salty" for disagreeing with them. I saw a few instances of that in the last page I read and it left a bitter taste in my mouth. It makes me want to avoid interacting with you
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:45 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
There is no real way of reading LC, in general.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:46 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
[VOTE:
Mac] aubergine
Come to the playground or we'll play without you.
Come to the playground or we'll play without you.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:17 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I'm not voting Mac to make him show up.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:28 pm Okay let’s push past the people (myself included) being dramatic part and move on.
There was talk last night about LC likely being town from results. Someone explain that to me. Sloonei maybe?
I have slight town reads on a lot of people right now, which lends credence to DDL’s inactive scum theory. That said, I don’t think there’s any point to vote for Mac just to entice him to show up if we don’t intend to lynch him. It’s -EV to lynch any essentially inactive player, especially Mac who might show up and solve the game. In Fallout he had 2 posts and then day 1 he came in and called out both scum.
I'm voting Mac because I think lynching him right now is a good move, considering we just got 1 baddie and there is a good chance there are inactives among the remaining ones. I feel like a semi-active baddie would have given more of a damn at EoD1.
And I haven't played with Sorsha in ages so I'm picking Mac over her.
If Mac decides to become active, this assessment may change, but right now I'm voting him to lynch him.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:55 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
The Epi thing was me half-assing a suspicion to see if I could make something to happen. It's partly joke partly serious. I did think Epi's vote on Creature was dumb but also was aware Epi is stubborn enough to do things like that. But I had nothing better to do so I voted anyway.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:44 pmDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:28 pm I am playing but there is a lack of scumhuntable posts that I can talk about.
Someone overreact about something silly so another person can be shady about it and then I can vote for them.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:35 pmThere it is.
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Creature acted exactly the same way last game where he was civ.I can look at these posts and see them as DDL making jokes and going through the motions to appear engaged with the thread on Day 1. The first is a call for somebody else to do a Mafia Thing so that the game can begin. The second is a response to Epi doing a Mafia Thing, but then he does not follow up in any meaningful way on that. He drops a vote on LC several hours later instead. DDL's interest in getting the scumhunting started was phony.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:58 am I also have a hunch on LC
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Feels like hes more self-contained than usual or something.
[VOTE: DDL] aubergine
The LC thing was just a hunch and it's one that I still have. I didn't explain it beyond that because that's what the word hunch means.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:05 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
Assuming you and your two buddies are civilian...Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:49 pmWhat makes you believe we have inactive bad guys?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:17 pmI'm not voting Mac to make him show up.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:28 pm Okay let’s push past the people (myself included) being dramatic part and move on.
There was talk last night about LC likely being town from results. Someone explain that to me. Sloonei maybe?
I have slight town reads on a lot of people right now, which lends credence to DDL’s inactive scum theory. That said, I don’t think there’s any point to vote for Mac just to entice him to show up if we don’t intend to lynch him. It’s -EV to lynch any essentially inactive player, especially Mac who might show up and solve the game. In Fallout he had 2 posts and then day 1 he came in and called out both scum.
I'm voting Mac because I think lynching him right now is a good move, considering we just got 1 baddie and there is a good chance there are inactives among the remaining ones. I feel like a semi-active baddie would have given more of a damn at EoD1.
And I haven't played with Sorsha in ages so I'm picking Mac over her.
If Mac decides to become active, this assessment may change, but right now I'm voting him to lynch him.
And if we remove the real inactive people (mac, sorsha, bimbo), we are left with a bunch of semi-active people. People like me, who came online a couple times and half-assed playing the game.
I did check the thread a few times right before EoD. I didn't care to catch up or change my vote. But I think that if I was bad, I would have at least cared to look at the poll and maybe start a wagon or two. Not let four civilians monopolize the discussion, and change wagons randomly while mentioning Creature as a possibility. When I'm bad but don't feel like playing, I at least check the thread to see if my faction is losing and my teammates are not being talked about.
A bunch of people also came online for short moments at the end if day 1 and didn't do much. So either the baddies who came online thought the situation was great and they didn't have to act, or they baddies are inactive and didn't come online.
If the situation was great the only thing I get is that LC is a civ since he had a couple votes. Still, the poll was pretty dangerous for baddies near EoD. I think if I were a baddie I'd have made more of an effort to influence that poll at EoD.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:07 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
Never mind that lynching inactives is never entirely bad and the fact we are winning the game means we have some spare days to test things like that.
- Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:10 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
Yeah I agree LC sounds manipulative in that post.
- Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:03 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 1]
- Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:05 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
He's dead, Jim.
- Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:03 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I'm not sure about manipulative but I've been getting a lot of "appeal to emotion vibes from dizzy. Like when you accuse him and he goes "do people not scumhunt in this site?" or when he questions if he belongs hereDom wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:18 pmI don't feel that way about you at all.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:09 pmI'm so confused by this. Like, in a meta game way. Is scum hunting not normal here? I know I've seen it before. I'm so obvious town that it's laughable. I feel I'm in a video game and suddenly the controller turns into one of those go right when press left kind of thing.
I see you as a manipulative person in this game.
What's the goal of that post?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:12 pmThat's interesting actually. Can you articulate why you think that?
Though that could be NAI. I don't have enough games with Dizzy to be sure.
- Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:05 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
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Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I could vote LC.
I don't feel strongly about voting any other active players, though.
I don't feel strongly about voting any other active players, though.
- Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:07 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: The Polka Heist [GAME OVER]
- Replies: 2086
- Views: 32623
Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 2]
I'm somewhat less motivated about this game than the previous one because I put such a ridiculous amount of effort and it didn't pay off.
Bit I'm trying not to flake completely.
So I'm mostly putting my feelings into words and trying to get a feel of people but not bothering to quote and stuff
Bit I'm trying not to flake completely.
So I'm mostly putting my feelings into words and trying to get a feel of people but not bothering to quote and stuff