The Syndicate

Hi, friends!

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:05 pm I have important news for everyone.

I am town.

Thanks for the info.

I'm either town or not town btw.
Don't want to reveal that just yet.
All in good time. ^^

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:03 pmCalling it right now. You're town.

[Buddying successful]

You may now enjoy a lock town status from D0.

Will the bad guys be annoyed that town finds each other this early?

Yes. Yes, they will.

Such posts wow

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

sig is hella weird on the first pages. /shrugface

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sig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:52 pmThis post is sketchy, pinning him as third party.

Wait until you see my future posts!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:27 pm My brain is not in Mafia mode lately, I am too happy with my life. So expect me to suck.

Aw, I'm happy for you!

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:14 amWell, tonight a man came into the hospital who hadn't been taking care of himself and he had maggots falling out of a wound in his leg. I got the parts of the leg they cut off.

Other than that, I'm good.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:26 am I should interact with Dizzy. I miss him. *squish* *buddies* *or should I wait to have him buddy me first* :perc unsure:

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Nova actually posting, and that's not a read.
sig says weird stuff, and that's not a read.
Gut on Owner and Nut for town for almost no reason.
Think I liked some of Tony's posts.

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sig wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 amI'd be shocked if Dyslex isn't an Indy.

Lol. Ever been surprised before? =p

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

So not do what you literally did in your second post when you town read me based on the same post that has sig convinced I'm indy? Ok, cool.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:01 pmBut if you hand it like candy, you might miss out on the obvious scum. Point is, don't just give out town cred when it's undeserved. Reeks of TMI.

I'll hand out all the town cred I feel like, thanks! Better to have reads and express them than not. Reads can always change as the game changes and you know more info.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:02 pm Why bother finding town?

This is multiball with cults and a serial killer and a town traitor.

Spoiler: show

Are you triggered?

I feel like I should read the setup again >_>

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Yeah! It would be like:
OMG OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAGAHGHAGHGHHH

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I think I'm liking Dom and probably Nova.
Rej being "that was my civillian way of" is lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:42 am I'm on board the dizzy is 3p train

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] We're back to this again! =p

Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

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Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pmI voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

I think it would be more effective if you didn't explain it. Aaand it kind of explains itself tbh =p

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:32 pmsounds reasonable, I like this thinking even if it risks mislynches

@Epignosis just wanted to be sure there is no convenience or sheeping in that vote. Some people might do so for chainreactions.

I don't mind the wagon on Timmer tho.

You're kind of saying that Creature's sheep vote to vote is reasonable and that you like this thinking.
But then you're also making sure Epig isn't sheeping?
Clarify?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:34 pm Why is my name being brought up so much?

What's the point of this post?
Also, I don't really think it is compared to a lot of other people.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:39 amHe knows his suspicion is genuine. He can't say the same about yours. You should know that.

Does this mean you're town reading Rej?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:39 am Epi is being odd this game, he's usually done some oddball move or asked some weird question to gauge people, that hasn't happened and it's making me nervous. I can't recall last time I saw scum Epi, but from what I remember he didn't do that as a mafia member. Can anyone confirm this?

I'm actually town leaning on him more than I usually do (which isn't saying a lot lol). I think he's made stuff happen and also it looks like that is what he intended.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

That first thing wasn't serious, if that wasn't obvious.

Also, hi Luna, hi! Nice to see you again. I'm totally town this time though. <3

Oh wait. I had some thoughts. There's a lot of players in this game.

I like Timmer better than Rej.
I don't know what to think about Drag. I don't think our play styles are very similar. He seems very serious =p
Owner is probably town.
I'll try to do early reads when I'm done reading page 10

Ok so if I'm going to try and sort players.

Town:
Owner

Light town:
Dom
Tony

Null, but ok:
Nova (But was he nervous in his convo with Juliets?)
Nutella
Epig
Timmer

Null, but hmmm:
Drag
Quin
sig

Suspicious:
Rej
Michelle

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Other people I haven't mentioned are just null or I can't recall anything specific for them.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Regarding this though =p

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I could also vote Rej as this point. Regarding the "civillian way" thing, what I don't like about that is that I don't think he has commented on it at all. Which is sketchy boots.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

I don't know how to read Sloonei, but I'm pretty much following and/or agreeing with most of what he's saying. /shrugface

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:42 am I'm on board the dizzy is 3p train

But also why though? Cause I hadn't even started playing yet. =p

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

Is that shade or something? Does it say something about my alignment? Who would be the most intersting player to flip for you right now?

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:35 pmSloonei knows their stuffs.

Yeah. I know the stuff about Sloonei knowing their stuff. =p

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:46 pmThis was my first thought too; though I don’t think it’s accurate. My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

I’ll answer one of the questions: rej flip is the obvious answer, but I think Drago or Epi is the more interesting bet.

Generic being same reads doesn't make sense to me.
But I do agree Drag probably would be the most exciting flip

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:54 pmIt's not shade, I expressed an actual scumlean, just didn't feel the need to point that being generic means scum.

Nah, it's kind of a roundabout way to go about it imo. You did feel the need to explain that you voted Tony for pressure and that having wagons D1 is good for game development, which is way more obvious as I see it.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:12 pm [Timmer is scum]

Can someone tell me about Rej's meta? Cause this post is so weird.
Lots of people have expressed suspicion on Rej. Why would Timmer be the opportunistic one?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:59 pmDon't try to act like what I did there with the town read wasn't a joke cause it was.

I actually didn't read it like that. But ok

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:36 pmAs I can tell a syndicate meta has kind of developed for Creature giving short posts with some amount of substance but little backing and then getting attacked for it. I don’t think an explanation should be attacked because it’s what we’ve been asking for but it doesn’t align with the typical meta I’ve seen from town Creature.

Not really attacking the explanation as such, but I do have an interest in questioning Creature on his read/comment on me. If it's the same Creature that plays on MU, I at least know they're experienced and capable. I have my guards up a bit because in my experience players who doesn't know me likes to take cheap shots at me when scum and think I can be an easy target.

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:40 pm The part that really confuses me about rej is that he doesn't even know me from a mafia standpoint. If epig or sloonei come at me, for instance, even if I disagree with whatever they might be saying, or I know they are wrong etc. I know that they would theoretically be working from a position of familiarity with my game. But rej is working from the 2nd post of day 1 which was me not helping him and he's just stood there on it, even after people called us teammates which he knows is wrong.

It's a very odd stance to take with a player whose style you don't know.

Yeah now I definitely don't get that tunnel. o.o

[mention]Rej[/mention] I really don't think it's unreasonable or even not town-like for someone to ask you to read D0 for yourself. It was 4 pages as they said. And they hadn't read it themselves. Like, it just doesn't seem that strange to me to answer that.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] You've mentioned a couple of times that you haven't paid much attention to the Timmer/Rej deal. I would like for you to give whatever thoughts you do have anyway. I don't really understand why you're avoiding this.

Also, [mention]Rej[/mention] - Don't self vote. Really.

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:26 pmlol

Is this something scum!Rej would do? I've only seen them as town, and they claimed miller early and I trusted them pretty much the whole game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:34 pmI have lots of busy avatars available for lending.

Why are people voting Rej?

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Wait, Rej is voting Host/Mod option now. Cool, cool. I hope this guy is not town. >_>

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:33 pmI figured you of all people would know what to think about drag.

I haven't had a gig all summer, ok?

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:42 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:08 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:44 pmi'm bored.

e4

you sunk my battleship

Legit lol

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:59 amAre you a rock? Which one?

Also doesn't look good how happy you are to lynch at random

I'm migmatite, in the infamous game that mafia couldn't win. =p
Did you play champs game with TrippedOnReality, HATER, Telleo etc?

Also, that post was not serious, because I hadn't read the game. Now that I have, I'm still not against lynching you tbh

I have no fucking clue what Rej is doing. I was worried that he might be town that just plainly doesn't make sense and clam up. I've seen a lot of town getting lynched for "that doesn't make any sense" - but then they're still town. BUT, the fact that he is just giving up is a really bad look. On the other hand, the game seems quite stagnant and whatever with Rej being a leading wagon by far. I'm not sure it would be like this if Rej was mafia? Maybe other mafia want bussing credit, but also meh. So if Rej is not town I could also see them being an Indy. Would explain why it seems like nobody really cares that much.

Right now I'm suspicious of anyone tiptoeing around the Rej lynch by not talking about it or just "Why is Rej being lynched guyezz?" (Looking at you, Jack). I don't see any town motivation to not get into the discussion unless you're going to something else. This is also why I don't really like Quin.

[mention]Rej[/mention] - If you are actually town here, this is a golden opportunity to gather a lot of analysis and reads.

Everyone with 10 posts or less is on my naughty list. Would lynch.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:31 amNice to play with you again. And yes, i played game 11, a game which town couldn't win.

Do you have an agenda for me i see. Noted this.

Agenda? Do you want to be more explicit?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:34 am a last question (i hope) for how to use the forum
how to multiquote?

Unfortunately there isn't. You just have to right click the quote button and open ten tabs >_>

I actually believe Rej. I think.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:03 am does 'you're all dumb as hell' count as getting into the discussion because that's all i've got for you friendo

I would to encourage you to get more specific than that, friendo.
Who is dumb as hell? What does it say about their alignment?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:38 pmThere is, you can open the Full Editor reply page and then below the reply box there will be the last posts. You can multiquote them by clicking on the quote buttoms on the top right.

There seems to be a limit to how many posts you can show in this window, though, I don't know how to go over it.

"This person should read me town" is a town thing to say imo. I feel that way a lot when I'm town. I think Rej is not mafia at least. /shrugface.

Nova and sig both had loud openings but are just gone now. Hoping for more from them.

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:43 pm I can confirm that Michelle can be a lazy/busy player sometimes. I could read her better with more input from her side.

A last question to you veterans: more people jumping on my cases/drago cases, does it mean that this are mostly civillians jumping over to look and make right decisions or could it be baddies who approach to save someone?

Ok from my perspective I am a civillian this makes everyone who looks into Dragomir and everyone who wants to safe me more of a civillian. On the other side I don't know if mafia profits from mislynching Dragomir, when Dragomir approaches me or other people agressively. So mafia rather profits from Dragomir'S agressive play and mafia would rather push forward the votes on me and safe Drago.

I still wonder what role timmer's plays in this.

I will ISO nutella because she wanted to take a look on my and dragos and timmers cases I think.

But like, why would Drag be a mislynch? Do you not consider it likely that he's not a mislynch? In which case, why are you voting there?

And to the other stuff ... it's usually not as simple as "baddies vote there" or "civs all follow this lead". It's way messier than that. A lot of the time I find scum are actually voting off wagons and trying to not attract attention (depending on play style)

[mention]nutella[/mention] Why do you have a read on me before I started to play the game though? I've posted plenty now. Kind of meh about you defending "I'm having reads" when you're just throwing out stuff without basis like your read on me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:50 pmIn my limited view of Dyslexicon here, they feel like a player who is unsure what to do with Sloonei but wants to appear inquisitive.

I'm unsure how to read you and therefore I want you to engage in the conversation. I noticed you didn't chime in to the Rej think, and I had started to think that Rej/Timmer could be town vs town. I did notice that you said you were busy, but I can still ask questions. I don't understand your rationale for suspecting me. Why would I be "unsure what to do with you" if you're not really contributing a lot or being around a lot? I'm prodding everywhere I'm drawn to and being impatient about getting information out. And that is full on town for me.

I'm not very interested in lynching Michelle either tbh. In the Champs game I read them as obvious town. But that was a champs game and she probably had above average effort. In the other game we played (anonymous) she was suspected a lot and killed by the vig. I didn't really get a chance to read them since I was mafia that game.

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:56 pmAlso what are your thoughts on nutella? Do you like her play this DP?

I don't know about Nutella. I think she hasn't given much except from the take on Dom right now. I feel like Nutella has a very different style now than when I first started playing here. I feel I was able to read her before. I had a gut feeling they were town early on just form being fearless, but I don't know if it's super AI for them. Null and waiting for more content I suppose. Not really hating her take on Dom though.

I don't know Timmer very well, but I haven't really felt them suspicious in how they handled Rej.
I also think Rej is likely town.
Owner also comes across town to me from what I know.
There's other players that seem town to me to some extent, but I'm not very familiar with them. Like Tony. But I think I felt some psychic energy between Tony and Creature at a point.

Then there's people who are barely here. Luna and Sabie I've played with and would want to post much more content.

Juliets is a bit forgettable tbh. She had a case on Rej. Actually don't think I love that she kind of picked up from me - "You're right, Dizzy" and then went on to make the case. I feel like if Rej is actually town, it's pretty easy to make a "sound case" on him and not look bad for doing it.

When does day end anyway? How many ours? Board time is all weird and non-Scandinavian like. o.o