The Syndicate

You guys Three Houses is so damn good.

You know what a lite game with out of post voting is perfect for?

Secret. Fucking. Codes.

I will come up with one and read D1 and return.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:30 pm You guys Three Houses is so damn good.
RIGHT

I just changed Eldegard to a fighter and myself to a myrmidon.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:45 pm No. Jack has three posts. Kill him.

You and what army?

I guess I’ll just start from the beginning because it’s only 7 pages.

Secret code is as follows.

Voting Epi without saying why: I am feeling grumpy
Voting Don without saying why: I still haven’t caught up.
Voting Drago without saying why: I have gotten into a new manga (or more likely comic book) and that’s why I am not posting.
Voting Mac without saying why: I stayed up so late playing Fire Emblem, I am on Australia time.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:31 pmJack where are you? You are quieter than your civ or mafia meta.

Mostly playing Fire Emblem though I also went to fossil rim animal park and got a video of my wife handfeeding a giraffe and getting scared mid feed. Twice.

It’s 1 am. I promise to wake up and do something this game.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:19 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:37 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:54 pm Light joke as an icebreaker. I hate the use an emoji there. It doesn't fit in a natural way, and it kind of doesn't fit him either. Trying to lighten his entrance even more. Compensating? Maybe.

Drago is bad.
Hahahahahahahaha!

This post tbh is pretty funny.
How about this one?

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Hilarious.
This is even funnier!
Neither of your posts does anything here besides discredit suspicion with humour.

Underwhelmed if nova is a neutral read. Even more underwhelmed if you left him out of his asking you for reads on everyone who posted, which would include him.

Drago and nova not w/w. [VOTE: Drago] aubergine

Gonna throw out a light townread on Quin for getting down to business immediately in a light game.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:27 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:19 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:37 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:54 pm Light joke as an icebreaker. I hate the use an emoji there. It doesn't fit in a natural way, and it kind of doesn't fit him either. Trying to lighten his entrance even more. Compensating? Maybe.

Drago is bad.
Hahahahahahahaha!

This post tbh is pretty funny.
How about this one?

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Hilarious.
This is even funnier!
Neither of your posts does anything here besides discredit suspicion with humour.

Underwhelmed if nova is a neutral read. Even more underwhelmed if you left him out of his asking you for reads on everyone who posted, which would include him.

Drago and nova not w/w. [VOTE: Drago] aubergine
Gonna throw out a light townread on Quin for getting down to business immediately in a light game.
Isn't he dead?

Fabulous.

I thought you were dead and Quin was alive.

Here bes a big post spoilered for readability.

Spoiler: show

Sloonei lite game notes

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:05 am Oh fuck

Oh fuck fuck fuck

I don't know how tf I would play with a 45 posts hard limit

Heh

I think this game day I'll be unable to get anywhere close to that limit luckily

Please, just don't try to lynch me just because I'm way limited

Maybe some game I'll get to break my limit

Heh

What should we do now?

I think I got some reads but I need a separate post

Hmmm

Am I doing this right?

Meh, I probably need to sleep, so see you all

What is this? Creature has played lite games before. Nova calls this out as fake a few posts later.

Drago and Don shading/disliking Rej in post 59 and 60 is yuck. Rej is like king of lhf and his posts should be read with that in mind. Reads like a shark smelling blood in the water you know? Or sharks. Probably not sharks cause statistics. Also because Drago immediately turns on Dom here.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:05 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:19 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:37 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:54 pm Light joke as an icebreaker. I hate the use an emoji there. It doesn't fit in a natural way, and it kind of doesn't fit him either. Trying to lighten his entrance even more. Compensating? Maybe.

Drago is bad.
Hahahahahahahaha!

This post tbh is pretty funny.
How about this one?

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Hilarious.
This is even funnier!
Neither of your posts does anything here besides discredit suspicion with humour.

Underwhelmed if nova is a neutral read. Even more underwhelmed if you left him out of his asking you for reads on everyone who posted, which would include him.

Drago and nova not w/w. [VOTE: Drago] aubergine
What do you want those posts to do Quin? Its like you're saying that there's another way to defend against it so enlighten me.

How is underwhelming and why does it matter? Like, what am I supposed to do if my reads on him and others are neutral? You guys want me to start pulling out reads out of my ass or what?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:14 pm Hi everyone. Gonna try and play a game again. Don't get to used to it

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:19 pm Okay let's go. It's day 1 now so I've got to limit myself but I don't think? it'll be a problem

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:44 pm well I'm not going to have to limit myself if nobody else says anything

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:45 pm Epi voted for me though so I've got that going for me
You are burning posts. None of these three posts accomplish anything except to use three of your 45 available posts. You aren't limiting yourself. You are bad.
I like Epignosis' analysis here. While I probably won't make 45 posts in a phase (probs jinxing myself here), I think wasteful posts are always -worthy, but in a game like this, especially so. Not only do I like the content of the post, but it makes me feel good about Epi on a gut level. That's new.

This post is bad. I don't like it. I can't really explain it. It's like he's trying too hard to simply agree with Epi. It gives off a vibe of treading with caution as to appear as good as possible as to not say anything bad. The emote at the end further reinforces this read.

Tony you're bad.

Editor’s note: He meant Dom

And then Dom does the same back.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:15 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:06 am Oh wait, I mean Dom you're bad. Not Tony, read the name wrong.
lol k

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:08 am
Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:00 am
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:49 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:23 pm also hi im quin and i kind of sound like an asshole when i play mafia
Don't worry man I liked your first posts! Quite townish, and I agree that me vs Drago was looking like we were scumbuddies that tried out shit.
So you think Drago and Novas is V/W? While Drago was giving the impressions me and novas could be W/W.
With your assumption it could be taken as far as me, novas and Drago being W/W/W.
I doubt that the interactions between us were AI. How can I ensure you, me being town?

@novaselinenever The least thing I would do, would be buddying up with you

Hello Mac and Creature btw
@Creature had some reads in mind? I would like to read those!
hated that
Oh, we share similar feelings here. Maybe you're not so bad after all.
hated that too
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:08 am Noone wanna be a W in a V/W read
This is meta when people force to scumread me, lovely.
hated this more

I can see this kinda unfortunate cross posting from two wolves with similar play styles like me and Speed or Sloonei and Jay. I tend to think Dom and Drago aren’t all that similar. Still, it feels fake af. Probably w/v.

In light of the fact that Rej was not mislynched in this game (yay multigaming while behind!), I’ll subtract some scumminess from both of these players and leave my conclusion with a little less oomph in it.

Also, I just realized I’m confusing Rej and Rey so cut that king lhf comment.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:23 pm People who get a Day 1 gold star from the roll that I stole from the warden's desk:

nova
juliets
Dom
Dragomir

++++

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:10 pm I was just genuinly reacting, 33% sarcasm, nothing to hide and you guys acting like masked robbers that about to gangbang each other.
Double adverb alert.

Also, Rej should work on his similes.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:10 pm I gave some reads and some thoughts.

Drago takes the argument "I knew Novas gth was a joke post, so I made my own joke post."
And then they pick on my "Novas goes hard with reads" post, that basically fits under the same argumentation of a joke post.

Drago gives me off fishy vibes from the beginning.

I have nullreads on most others, have to revisit my thoughts.
"Fishy vibes" is about as helpful as masked robbers planning to gangbang one another.

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:26 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:20 pm Point out who are the sheep's here. 5 players have voted so far. Nova, me, Epi, Quin, and Dom. Epi, Nova, and I both started the wagons on our votes so we don't count.

That leaves Quin and Dom. Quin provided reasons for his vote, albeit they didn't make sense, they were still reasons which didn't look forced. Dom is the worst out of all of us cause all he said was hated that on Rej. But, I did say let's get votes on his Rej and he obliged which is not a problem.

So all these sheeps aren't as bad as you think man. You're entire assertion on this easy lynch has made no freaking sense. There's only 5 fucking votes and they're all split on different wagons, how is that even a problem! You're liking 10 ppl voted for one person and dipped.

Now vote for Rej.
I already explained that "easy lynch" part but let's not discuss that any further, Drago I will not vote for someone just cuz you gonna tell me to vote for them, if I find someone reason or their vote easy or just looking taking the profit of the current climate then I will point that out regardless what other think about that so, yeah, me pointing out that make sense. And I actually will put my vote on someone when I will see more in this DP, if you have your accusation on Rej then I say it please follow it by all means. Even I suspect Rej but I need to see it more from him before actually voting for him
"I suspect Rej, but not enough to put him imperil his life." Noted.

Also, double actuallies.

If I had to shoot someone right now with the gun that the warden was smart enough not to leave in his desk, it would be Rej.

If I had a second bullet, Oreki would get it.

The double adverb thing is a fair point and Epi is now dead.

Plus Drago and Dom probably cleared in the case of a Rej scum flip.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:53 pm Third bullet goes to Creature.

Internal monologue: Epi has so many suspects it is going to be difficult to tell who killed him.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:42 pm Sure.

Who do you suspect?

This is directed at Epi.

Fry.jpg

Quin after Drago too but I already turned the page.

LC says things that make sense but I’ve gotten over the illusion that I’m good at reading LC.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:37 pm Here's a post I started putting together. Starting page 3 soon.

Rej is too awesome to vote for.

Epignosis judged townness by who is conserving posts. I think that's not a great way to determine alignment. I intend to post normally and I'm usually under 45 posts per phase anyway. I think.

I thought the same thing as Drago about Dom's post, but it could be just because I disagree with Epi's post and Dom agrees with it.

Spoiler: show
Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:20 am What I think here that nova trying to make a case on drago with starting logic. I can see town making a posts like that but I don't get why Nova trying to push for drago in that enviroment is if he's trying to make mislynch D1, lots of assuming here

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:19 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:37 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:54 pm Light joke as an icebreaker. I hate the use an emoji there. It doesn't fit in a natural way, and it kind of doesn't fit him either. Trying to lighten his entrance even more. Compensating? Maybe.

Drago is bad.
Hahahahahahahaha!

This post tbh is pretty funny.
How about this one?

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Hilarious.
This is even funnier!
Neither of your posts does anything here besides discredit suspicion with humour.

Underwhelmed if nova is a neutral read. Even more underwhelmed if you left him out of his asking you for reads on everyone who posted, which would include him.

Drago and nova not w/w. [VOTE: Drago] aubergine
This post, I feel like someone trying to take the profit of the current environment, while making a side comment "This is not w/w argument", c'mon if you have something in the table then split, I feel like you more reads than that, don't you?

I agree with Oreki's spoilered post above. I think it could easily be w/w, I don't see anything here that can't be easily faked for distancing. I might vote for Quin.

Juliets defending Dom with regard to Epi-history is pretty normal.

@Dragomir Oreki said Rej was the easiest lynch, and I tend to agree with him. Rej is putting out a lot dubious statements IMO, and it would be a lot easier to take a hold of one of them, show why it's suspicious, and cast a vote. Much harder to lynch a player with fewer, more tempered posts. Easier lynch.

I don’t like this as much.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:14 am Rej continues to entertain, while at the same time spurs interaction and content. Diggin' it.

The Rej-Drago-Nova stuff makes my eyes go blurry a bit. Not interested.

Nova made a post with two Mac posts... I found the Mac posts to be pretty normal, but Dom says it's trolling.

LOL Epi wants to lynch Rej and Oreki, the two I want to not lynch. At least I like his questions.

HEY, did Epi actually vote for me? Get outta here...

Guess not. I'm caught up! Still mostly Drago/Nova/Rej/Quin entanglement in the thread... Quin is the vote I am laying down right now. [VOTE: Quin] aubergine

I think Rej and Draco are the most suspicious players at this point in my read through and a scum flip for either should clear the other and Dom. I don’t like the push away from that spot.

Plus, Rej being entertaining is not a good reason to townread him.

Implying trolling isn’t normal for Mac lol.

The Quin vote is weak.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:14 am
Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:00 am
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:49 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:23 pm also hi im quin and i kind of sound like an asshole when i play mafia
Don't worry man I liked your first posts! Quite townish, and I agree that me vs Drago was looking like we were scumbuddies that tried out shit.
So you think Drago and Novas is V/W? While Drago was giving the impressions me and novas could be W/W.
With your assumption it could be taken as far as me, novas and Drago being W/W/W.
I doubt that the interactions between us were AI. How can I ensure you, me being town?

@novaselinenever The least thing I would do, would be buddying up with you

Hello Mac and Creature btw
@Creature had some reads in mind? I would like to read those!
hated that
I don’t think clumsy wording is ever a good tell. Of all the things I dislike in the post that’s the least of them. More problematic is trying to form groups so early on but that could just be a style thing

I like this post but Tony1 is dead so...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:28 am Okay caught up but I didn’t really comprehend any of what was going on. Tunneling maybe on Epi if only because I don’t think post counts will actually matter much (45 perhaps a bit high a limit, enough to make the game more accessible but not functionally stifling discussion). Drago is town. Rej is bait. I have no idea on Nova. Oreki is earnest which is gonna be Town from me. I like LC to stay around because he produces good content and I can read him well enough. Sabie isn’t getting lynched on my watch this time. I’ll reread Quin but I’m not buying that case. That leaves Creature. Hey crocodile man, how’s it going? How’s life? I appreciate that you signed up for this game even knowing it might stifle your style. Not gonna clear ya.

We can take these as true thoughts. Of course, it’s just scumreads on dead townies and townreads in my suspects so...

@tonystarkprime do you still townread Drago and Rej?

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

Quin agreed with me that entertaining =/= good.

Juliets and Sabie also want to ignore the Dom/Rej/Draco pile with exactly one wolf in it.

My phone is ignoring my autocorrect settings that Juliets is a word and does not need to be converted to Juliet’s and Dom is a word and does not need to be converted to DoK and the further converted to Dropped off the kiddos.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:03 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:47 pm @Dragomir --

You're awfully close to the post limit. why do you keep double posting with no attempt to multiquote?
Multiquoting is pretty hard for me to do on a phone as ill have open up multiple tabs, copy paste this and that, just takes too much time.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:30 pm Effective immediately, Jackofhearts2005 is replacing birdwithteeth11.

Get hype!

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:50 pm Shot:

Chaser:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:59 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:28 pm
....that is willfully naive.
Naive how? If you believe that the players who have voted are townies, it's only logical to think that those who haven't contained the mafia. Thinking otherwise would contradicting yourself.

I'm not saying that they're town for voting but that the way they're playing is town to me.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:28 pmI have no idea what happened there and you all confuse me.
Try reading it again.
You said the baddies had to be in the non-voters lol. but k

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:07 pm 1) rej: "how can i ensure you that i am town"/ "no really guys THIS is my town meta"
2) tony: what u said bro
3) drago: "you're good because we agree"/ "non voters must be bad"/ mr. post a lot but not say that much in individual posts and then multiquote in one post of a double post where someone asked why you don't and you say it's too hard on your phone lol i made a good joke about this guys

Lol Dom can be town between the problem triplets.

BirdwithJack is not as good of a nickname as BirdofHearts I’m just sayin.

223 Sabie switches over to Creature. Not my favorite. Like tbf, Creature looks scummy. He also looks like a safe place for wolves to push.

241 Quin telling me to follow my heart.

243 I like this post from Sabie. It’s funny and feels genuine.

245 Drago colors a perfect rainbow list in spite of having difficulty multiquoting.

Tony gets lynched, which is a fucking travesty because there was little discussion of Tony D1. Who the fuck was voting him? Epi, Rej, Juliets, Nova. Of which I remember Epi talking about Tony. Alternative wagons are Creature (Tony, Sabie) and Rej (Drago, Dom).

10 points from Gryffindor Blue Lion Rej, Juliets and Nova.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:45 pm Aight I did some catch ups overnight and narrowed the scum team down to Dragomir/Creature/Epignosis and Juliets. Epi/Juliets being the variable player. Dragomir is absolutely obvscum and needs to bite it.

I like this from Mac. It leaves off Rej and LC as potential scum. It includes Creature but that’s understandable and it includes Epi but Epi wasn’t getting lynched and the only reason Epi didn’t lose 10 points for the Tony lynch is because from my perspective, he’s already dead.

In conclusion, Mac probably town and can I bust you please?

Dom kinda agrees with this, adding to my townread of him. (Why Dom not tunneling me?)

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:33 pm Rej, Mac, and Sabie. They seem like the type to kill Quin imo.

I just remembered that this game has a post limit. Gotta chill.

I don’t know why he thinks this. Drago seems the type to buck rule of 3 but that’s mostly just me backing into reads I already have.

Juliets already voting for Creature. Thanks, I hate it.

Dom votes for...Creature. So does Rej. Day 2 is terrible.

Creature’s not wrong about being great at pointing out mislynches and bad at doing something about it. Watched town Creature protest mislynches ineffectively so many times. Too late now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:30 pm You guys Three Houses is so damn good.

This fucking guy. Like the “this is fine” meme except the dog is playing Switch and grinning as he burns.

[mention]Quin[/mention]

I don’t think I’m going to recruit anyone cause I hate having a 25 person army and the game is like “you may bring 12 people to the next battle cause we balanced the level that way for scrubs who let their units die.” I literally have stopped playing three perfectly good Fire Emblem games over who to bring/which supports to get paralysis. So I’m just gonna recruit nobody and bring my current posse on every mission.

Day 2 is just everyone listing suspects but voting Creature instead while Creature is #doingherbest #Ninoislove #FireEmblem.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:03 am Jack stop playing FE

No!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:07 am Overall I think Juliets and Drago are 1 and 2 on the suspect list. Sabie, Dom, and Jack can share spot 3.
Any questions? Anything at all? A 45 post limit in 48 hours is almost non existent in a game this size this shouldn’t be this quiet.

Tony can have a townlean for mind meld on the top suspects, even if his next 3 aren’t as good.

[VOTE: Juliets] aubergine

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:37 pm So I skimmed through the posts that have been made today but still don't understand why I have two votes. Because I voted Creature? I did some work to come to that conclusion which was ultimately wrong, but I tried hard to inform myself about his game and place my vote based on that.

Anyway, I'll have to go over these posts again tomorrow when I'm not so tired and maybe I'll see it. but I've been and still am busy and can't expend a lot of energy arguing that I'm civ. But I am.

I’m voting for you because you wrote off the majority of D1 for no real reason and you voted both Creature and Tony for reasoning that was barely present.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:50 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:37 pm So I skimmed through the posts that have been made today but still don't understand why I have two votes. Because I voted Creature? I did some work to come to that conclusion which was ultimately wrong, but I tried hard to inform myself about his game and place my vote based on that.

Anyway, I'll have to go over these posts again tomorrow when I'm not so tired and maybe I'll see it. but I've been and still am busy and can't expend a lot of energy arguing that I'm civ. But I am.
I’m voting for you because you wrote off the majority of D1 for no real reason and you voted both Creature and Tony for reasoning that was barely present.
I don't see how my reasoning for Creature was barely present. I compared his posting in this game to two games where he was civ and one game where he was bad and decided this game looked more like the bad game.

What do you mean I wrote off the majority of Day 1?

Drago vs Nova vs Dom vs Rej.

You were like “I don’t understand it so let’s lynch Tony.”

Mac is super townie what is happening?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:02 pm Juliets
Long Con
Oreki

Macdougall
nova
Rej
sabie
Drago
Dom

Jack
TSP

———————

So finishing up day one, of the people alive I’ve split it as such from top to bottom as good, bad, and ugly no content.

In more colloquial terms. The players at the top posted either in a way I found to be in line with a towny or their town meta(ish) while everyone else performed at a sub par level in the day discussion, or was heavily involved in nova’s kerfuffle that I think was a waste of time for most everyone involved.

Is this an actual read list?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:14 pm So day 2 is just creature and dom

Nothing important in my eyes to be gained from reading day 2

This day phase, I like jack. Though if there were indies in this game i’d Bet my money that he’d be it. He’s giving me the fallout mafia vibes

I also like sabie a little more this phase

Apparently not.

In Fallout (and Greece), I purposely took a back seat role so as not to get lynched or nightkilled.

Here it happened because I was playing video games until last night.

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

Although honestly (trigger warning), I could lynch Juliets, Rej, Drago and maybe someone to complete the meme before this.

Jack: Juliets is bad for ignoring Drago and Rej
Also Jack: Ignores Drago and Rej in favor of Juliets or LC because one of Drago and Rej should be town and I have cold feet.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:29 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:50 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:37 pm So I skimmed through the posts that have been made today but still don't understand why I have two votes. Because I voted Creature? I did some work to come to that conclusion which was ultimately wrong, but I tried hard to inform myself about his game and place my vote based on that.

Anyway, I'll have to go over these posts again tomorrow when I'm not so tired and maybe I'll see it. but I've been and still am busy and can't expend a lot of energy arguing that I'm civ. But I am.
I’m voting for you because you wrote off the majority of D1 for no real reason and you voted both Creature and Tony for reasoning that was barely present.
I don't see how my reasoning for Creature was barely present. I compared his posting in this game to two games where he was civ and one game where he was bad and decided this game looked more like the bad game.

What do you mean I wrote off the majority of Day 1?
Drago vs Nova vs Dom vs Rej.

You were like “I don’t understand it so let’s lynch Tony.”
So...why does that mean I'm bad? You seem to be saying even though it didn't make a lot of sense to me I should have voted someone in the group. How does that make sense?

No I mean you handwaved it instead of taking a stance.

How about we count to three and together say who is scum between Drago and Rej?

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:29 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:50 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:37 pm So I skimmed through the posts that have been made today but still don't understand why I have two votes. Because I voted Creature? I did some work to come to that conclusion which was ultimately wrong, but I tried hard to inform myself about his game and place my vote based on that.

Anyway, I'll have to go over these posts again tomorrow when I'm not so tired and maybe I'll see it. but I've been and still am busy and can't expend a lot of energy arguing that I'm civ. But I am.
I’m voting for you because you wrote off the majority of D1 for no real reason and you voted both Creature and Tony for reasoning that was barely present.
I don't see how my reasoning for Creature was barely present. I compared his posting in this game to two games where he was civ and one game where he was bad and decided this game looked more like the bad game.

What do you mean I wrote off the majority of Day 1?
Drago vs Nova vs Dom vs Rej.

You were like “I don’t understand it so let’s lynch Tony.”
What does this mean?
When did the above conflict happen?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:30 pm Mac is super townie what is happening?
W H Y
I have seen Z E R O evidence of this!!!

From my memory, 80% of D1 was an asstastic fight between you, Rej and Draco wherein you all looked terrible but not teamed. Then you started looking better later.

The last 20% was Juliets and Sabie going “Gah idk” and ignoring the scummy players. Iirc, LC saying they were both town (need to check this) and then four players voting Tony for basically no reason.

Mac just feels really town. I expect town Mac to aggressively (in tone, not necessarily volume) players I scumread. He is aggressively pursuing Drago, a player I scumread.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:13 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:48 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:22 pm [VOTE: Tony] aubergine
Nova, this seems a little out of the blue. What has convinced you all of a sudden that Tony is bad? I'm having a hard time reading him, I don't think I've played with him before.
Hmm I've been sleeping on it for a bit, it's not sudden. I don't like the default series of read that led him to suspect Creature. Most of the reads were uninspiring, and I feel like he was giving town reads like candy. Most of the recipients were the people getting vote and the center of most discussions, he's kind of just brushing them as an attempt to avoid the thick of it I guess. The push on Creature is in the same vein. It's a pretty arbitrary, looks like he's just trying to have something resembling initiative going on and park his vote somewhere. The playful tone and bland questions doesn't speak to me as trying to figure someone out. He's starting from the ground up, it doesn't feel like he suspected Creature and then started to question him to get a better grasp on him, but rather threw a dart on a wall, Creature's name came up and he went along with it lol. I don't think that how apathetic Creature was posting was a coincidence in his choice.

You've read all the ISOs right? What are your thoughts on him?
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply it was not well thought out. I understand how something simmers and becomes a suspicion.

As I said to Epi, I have no idea of what Quin case he's talking about. His posts come off to me as rather bland and not digging and he hasn't posted at all today which I don't see as a good sign (neither have a couple of other people though). I guess I have kinda ignored him because there wasn't a lot there and others have posted oodles of things.

I have been dwelling on Epi's post about Tony's Creature post and I have to say I see exactly what he means. Tony seemed to go through eliminating people until he was left with Creature but a lot of people were left out of that deductive process so it seems flawed. I also agree with you that he doesn't seem to be trying to figure Creature out - he just landed there and went with it.

So with that said, I do find him suspicious. I don't know anything about how analytical he normally is but I'm feeling pretty good about Epi and he says this is uncharacteristic. He tops my list at the moment.

And here’s where you settle on Tony.

“he doesn't seem to be trying to figure Creature out - he just landed there and went with it.”

And then D2, you voted Creature without saying you suspected him at all.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:42 pm Okay I do not have the ability to devote a lot of effort here. Jack where did the case on LC come from?

Mostly Nova asking me to vote LC.

A little bit LC townreading Rej for being entertaining. A little bit him voting for obvious townies. A little bit me misremembering LC as saying Rej and Drago were both town when actually, he just handwaved it like Juliets and Sabie (and I don’t actually scumread Sabie ftr).

I revoted Juliets btw cause I don’t think my reasons for suspecting LC are that compelling next to my reasons for suspecting Juliets.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:53 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:26 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:18 pm [VOTE: LC] aubergine

Although honestly (trigger warning), I could lynch Juliets, Rej, Drago and maybe someone to complete the meme before this.
Jack, why LC?

Also @novaselinenever why LC?
Hmmm doing that gth he was the only one I was convinced of. I remember suspecting him D1 for all the dubious reasons he was town-reading people and the 'push' on Quin. I hated how he highjacked Oreki's post and grilled Quin for the observation that me and Drago weren't w/w. I don't remember him responding to my inquiry about how exactly Quin was manipulating us with it when he was voting Drago and basically just didn't think we were teammate for the way I pushed him. Felt like a reasonable take.

What to you think of Juliets voting Tony D1 because Tony didn’t seem to be trying hard enough to evaluate Creature and then Juliets voted Creature D2 without trying to evaluate him at all?

Like honestly, I don’t see how that thought process ever comes from a townie.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:45 pm Aight I did some catch ups overnight and narrowed the scum team down to Dragomir/Creature/Epignosis and Juliets. Epi/Juliets being the variable player. Dragomir is absolutely obvscum and needs to bite it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:45 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:33 pm Rej, Mac, and Sabie. They seem like the type to kill Quin imo.

I just remembered that this game has a post limit. Gotta chill.
Please lynch this man

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:29 pm Okay well two of my four were town that means the other two have to be Mafia because I can't be entirely wrong.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:24 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:31 am Tbh I also would like to hear more from Mac, some reads, some stance. The last time I played with him he always had stuff to input.
Also this Jack guy feels like stalling.

Also gonna check out how the Creature wagon started and how he got twisted to look scum possibly.
You guys think the wagons were civ wagons?
I am a coin operated boy. In that the coin that operates me is people listening to me and lynching Dragomir.

My imaginary wolf hidey hole with Mac is probably more comfortable than the tunnel you’re in [mention]Dom[/mention]

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:19 pm I admit, I missed two of three total posts. Mostly because I didn't look hard because there's only like 9 total.

"aggressive"

Literally half his posts are about how Drago is a wolf.

Tell me what you think of my Juliets case.

While I’m posting [mention]MacDougall[/mention] get in here and vote Juliets.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:20 pm Jack: Juliets is bad for ignoring Drago and Rej
Also Jack: Ignores Drago and Rej in favor of Juliets or LC because one of Drago and Rej should be town and I have cold feet.
I'll say I have no idea what this means

I think one of Drago and Rej is probably scum. I didn’t think there was a better place to vote D1. Juliets (and in fairness several people) did not seem interested in sorting the two. I suspect Juliets in part for this.

I am now not sorting Rej and Drago. I’m not doing this because idk which is scum and especially because I think Juliets looks worse than both of them.

The joke is that I suspect Juliets for doing a thing that I am doing if you ignore the context.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:36 pm Does anyone have any reason to town read Nova?

He feels pretty townie and I have a lot of other scumreads.

Being thrown out the window is a metaphor for having my case ignored.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:09 pm Jack I do believe you could be bad. Last time you tunneled me to this extent you were indeed bad and I was as I am now, civ. You apparently missed that I looked at Creature's other games and made a call based on his behavior in this game as compared to those. You aren't listening to anything I have to say about my Day 1 thoughts even though I posted about them on Day 1. I don't believe you are coming from a place of good.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Show me on D2 where you decided to vote Creature.

Cause you going “vote Jack for voting me” does fuck and all to make me think you’re not a wolf.

This game was less frustrating when I wasn’t paying attention.

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]

Do you think I could be scum with Tony?

If I can get my four townreads to each day I am scum with a different one of my townreads, I achieve my secret win condition and I am this close.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:29 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:18 pm @novaselinenever

Do you think I could be scum with Tony?
To keep it real, I have no idea. Also to keep it even realer that's a weird question lol

Dom thinks I’m scum with Mac.
Mac thinks I’m scum with you.
You think I’m gth bad and am interested in Sabie’s Tony suspicions.

So I just need Tony to think I’m scum with Dom.

Or.

Spoiler: show

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:24 pm Imo after looking at some of Creatures past games his behavior here does not appear to be civ so I am placing a vote there for now.

I have no idea what about Creature’s past town games doesn’t look like Creature’s game here. Cause you didn’t say. Cause you weren’t trying very hard to evaluate him. Which is exactly the reason you gave for why Tony1 should be lynched.

I don’t believe you believed Tony was scum. I don’t believe you believed Creature was scum. I don’t believe you believe my suspicion on you is unbelievable.

The Juliets wagon dissolving while the Mac wagon stays probably means something but I’m not sure what.

Juliets + the entire Juliets wagon voting Drago is ??? too.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:10 pm when you see “one of x and y is scum” things thrown out I tend to find that if one is town they’ll either continue to push hard on the other or they’ll drop off of that completely.

Is there any other option?

You’re saying it won’t get measured consideration?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:16 pm I don’t think a town member ever accepts a one of x and y is scum statement if they’re not scum.

If you ever check my iso, just remember how much I treated Dom like a teammate.

But seriously, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with thinking two players are scummy independently but also not w/w which is basically the same thing.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:21 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:19 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:55 pm Mac you're not currently self preserving
I know. Juliets getting all spicy at Jack town pinged me. I would rather hold out hope that y'all come around and just lynch Dragomir who hasn't posted in 4 days.
Ok Mac, I'm with you.
Hmm, i can give Nova the benefit of the doubt and say that Juliet is scum instead of him. Mac and Jack still probably scum.
You think Jack and I are scum together?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:21 pm Drago v Jack is a show

The meme is falling apart.

Mac, do you not believe I believe my Juliets case? Given that, isn’t Juliets more likely to be scum than Drago?

Like I haven’t talked about any of my scumreads half as much as Juliets. Doesn’t mean those scumreads are fake.

But yeah, Drago’s read on me seems fake for exactly what Juliets is saying. I’m good at putting on a show with Juliets but not this kinda show.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:26 pm Dom/Nova/TSP are lock town here.

Yeh

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:24 pm[VOTE: mac] aubergine

Shoulda stuck to my guns yesterday. I guess I was out of memes at the time but still.

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