The Syndicate

All of these roles are for NERDS, so who cares!

I'll be in class, and it's a long evening ahead. Since I'm obviously going to be the first pick being the amazing legend that I am, you all might have to wait a bit.

I guess paladin because nutella called me lawful good.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:43 pm Does Colin get to pick his own role as well?

He gets the last role on the board.

Given that the mafia team has shown me the ultimate disrespect of non-inclusion, they have just one way of assuring I don't eat them for breakfast: kill me first.

This feels like a Supertown Jimmy roleplay kind of game. Just for you, [mention]MacDougall[/mention].

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:53 pm This feels like a Supertown Jimmy roleplay kind of game.

let's tagteam-awesome our way through this game, supatown Jimmy. And pray not to get lynched or NKd.

It is unsurprising that you would want to work alongside Supertown Jimmy, the greatest of the great, the amazing, the incredible, the one who changed the face of forum Mafia forever. Who wouldn't want to learn directly from a legend? It remains to be seen if you can even begin to comprehend his strategic brilliance. Those who have tried before you have proven thoroughly inadequate.

Supertown Jimmy demands the role of a paladin so that he may throw himself in front of danger in protection of the little people.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:39 pm Supertown Jimmy demands the role of a paladin so that he may throw himself in front of danger in protection of the little people.

Grants you wish for paladin

Assuming lapluie's fealty to The Great One is acknowledged, he shall pass on the coveted role of monk to gwilikers6.

The remaining roles might as well be assigned at random. It is meaningless. It is irrelevant. The course of the game was decided the moment Supertown Jimmy decided it was worthy of his presence. Your fates are already sealed.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:04 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:26 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:48 am The remaining roles might as well be assigned at random. It is meaningless. It is irrelevant. The course of the game was decided the moment Supertown Jimmy decided it was worthy of his presence. Your fates are already sealed.

Jay is mafia confirmed

I'm not sure what to make of this overconfident and arrogant Jay yet. Jay knows his worth as a civilian, and I know that he knows that everyone else knows he is being almost sincere when he names himself one of the, if not the, greatest asset town has, so I'm leaning civ? but scared of wiofm. Come on Jay, it's a slow ass Day 0. Wanna play GTH?

What incredible fool would dare place a gun at the head of a Mafia god? Who would attempt to threaten the safety of the transcendent player of our generation? Supertown Jimmy would enjoy a long and deep period of laughter at such idiotic behavior. He has hardly read the proceedings to this point, they are beneath him.

dunya is a civilian. She has declared her fatigue with the game of Mafia and yet she has still amassed over 70 posts during this introductory period of role assignment after the mafia team has been selected. She cannot help herself. She is addicted to the hunt. Perhaps she will earn her place of favor in the court of Supertown Jimmy if this conduct continues.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:56 pm What's this? My watch is half an hour fast?



@ColinIsCool

You have been randomly selected to start the draft.

Please choose another player from the player list (post 1) and pick a role from the draft list (post 3) for them. You must make your choice by posting it to this thread.

Once Colin gives someone a role, whoever that player is should give a third person a role, who should give a role to a fourth person and so on. Colin will get the last role that is left over.

For the draft portion of the game only, you (and by you, I mean everyone but probably Dunya) may contact other players outside of this thread to let them know that it is their turn to draft.

Posts occurring before this point are to be discarded. There is no way to know at what point the mafia team came into its fullest existence except that it came before this point. Supertown Jimmy has marked its location for future reference.

Supertown Jimmy shall make a meta-judgment of mafia team selection probabilities given the following assumptions:

~~~> If the don is a Syndicate regular, he or she will be unlikely to select players who are frequently lynched on The Syndicate or exposed in POE pools.

~~~> If the don is not a Syndicate regular, he or she is slightly less likely to select unfamiliar players.

If accepted together, these premises would favor sig, DrWilgy, and Marmot.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:27 pm dunya is a civilian. She has declared her fatigue with the game of Mafia and yet she has still amassed over 70 posts during this introductory period of role assignment after the mafia team has been selected. She cannot help herself. She is addicted to the hunt. Perhaps she will earn her place of favor in the court of Supertown Jimmy if this conduct continues.

I dunno about that. I know there's nothing quite like a scum game to ensure a high post count for me. Plus, this is a very exciting game, so of course she has a high post count. After all, I'm here.

Supertown Jimmy does not know either. It is not to be known. One makes a judgment given the visible data. What is your judgment of dunya?

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:37 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:36 pm Give me the wyvern rider and I'll do sig. I don't want to leave thread hanging

No. I don't trust you.

I trust sig. He's getting the role he wants provided he can locate one soon.

You trust sig?

They're on the same team obvies, but how do they know that

They're mafia teammates because one guy stated trust for another guy on Day 1?

Supertown Jimmy awards rundontwalk negative points for this absurdity.

Agreed I'm already sick of myself.

The civilian [mention]nutella[/mention] of 2018 is a model of self-assurance and action. The nutella so far seen in Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0] is a model of nothing. Lynch her at your earliest convenience.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:57 pm Favor use in which way?

In the civilian direction.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:59 pm Is nutella a former RYMer or just another enthusiast of nutella cheese sandwiches?

She is the latter, and she is more than an enthusiast. She never passes on that particular lunch.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:01 pm I agree with the first point, I don't agree with the second though. If an RYMer was selected, I definitely feel they'd include unfamiliar members; they definitely wouldn't build a team of 5 RYMers. Similarly, if a Syndicator was selected, they would include unfamiliar RYMers between them. Anything else would be foolish imo.

I don't think they'd build a team of 5 RYMers either. I would anticipate a subconscious or conscious bias though. Maybe that'd amount to 3-2 RYM-TS. Maybe not. I don't care to engage in the WIFOM. The first point is more important.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:00 pm I disagree with you Jay that high post count = civ dunya.

1 - Okay. Everybody has WIFOM-phobia and no matter how often I am right about these things I will always hear arguments.

2 - It isn't merely that she has a high post count. It is contextual. She didn't even want to play another game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:57 pm The civilian @nutella of 2018 is a model of self-assurance and action. The nutella so far seen in Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0] is a model of nothing. Lynch her at your earliest convenience.

I will lynch you at my earliest convenience.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:59 pm thoughtful rebuttal

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:25 pm Day 1 is of course the worst day to put full trust in anyone because I am towngod rdw and why trust people who aren't proven

Trust is for end of game when it's you and two other guys and you're the deciding vote.

What do you propose we do? Flail our arms in infinite paranoia and suspicion until that elusive proof arrives, neatly wrapped with a bow on top?

How would we ever derive town reads?

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:29 pm Paranoia is a good thing in early stages. How do I know you're not scum? I'm​ in a thread with a Mafia team trying to kill me. If I wasn't paranoid something would be wrong

I called dunya a civilian. Is she my mafia teammate?

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:34 pm Do you think dunya is town because you "trust" her or, better answer, because you have analyzed her posts and compared to historical record?

If you said she was town because you "trust" her that would be horrifying​

When Epignosis expressed trust for sig, do you think he was pulling that out of his ass?

I want reads on rundontwalk from the viewing audience immediately.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:41 pm I don’t even remember how you’re supposed to confidently lynch somebody on Day 1. Just please don’t have it be me?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:47 pm When Mafia first started on RYM I was able to ball out and do ridiculous gambits because I had played in a lot of games on different forums for years beforehand. Now it’s like 7 (?) years later and it’s like y’all have been training in the gym every day since while I’ve been eating Cheetos on a sofa.

While you're right to observe that my beautiful, bulging Mafia pecs are glistening with the sweat of countless hours of training, you needn't let that stop you from bringing sweet justice to those who would try to fucking kill you.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:47 pm Jjj wants Collin to show courage. I am being bold and JJJ is wanting the audience to chime in. Which is cool I am attention whore but it's curious

I've asked you my questions. I am not going to devour this exquisite game thread in one lengthy exchange. I have formed my perspective on the matter, and before I proceed I want other people to discuss what is one of the few hunting-relevant conversations in the thread.

nutella is a civilian for noticing that rule and applying it with some urgency.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:58 pm Or nutella and rabbit are both teammates.

BTSC exists.

Y'all inject the WIFOM straight into your blood vessels.

Also, I don't think farting around in Day 0 to keep it going is likely to provide a benefit to the mafia team.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:41 pmI want reads on rundontwalk from the viewing audience immediately.

I was pinged by his eagerness to receive a killing role, but a lot of that was contingent on Dunya's influence and.... Dunya has already slid into her standard role of out-posting everyone 3 times over.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. You were pinged by his pursuit of a killing role, depending upon exactly what from dunya?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:17 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:04 pm Also, I don't think farting around in Day 0 to keep it going is likely to provide a benefit to the mafia team.

Says the guy who literally farted in the thread.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:58 pm Or nutella and rabbit are both teammates.

BTSC exists.

Y'all inject the WIFOM straight into your blood vessels.

it's not really wifom, calling him out itt even if they're teammates isn't hard to believe tbh.

Is there any good reason to believe it? Is it a better theory than "nutella is a civilian and doesn't know what rabbit is, and doesn't want him screwing her faction over if he takes too long"?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:26 pm I don't like that he said he trusted sig over RDW on Day 0 drafting, and gave sig the role I drafted for RDW to spite me, I guess...but he's never played with rundontwalk so I won't be too judgy.

I think I know why he felt that way. One needn't even have a read on RDW. To trust sig at all and have no clue about RDW implies that sig is more trusted than RDW. Then when the latter is asking for a killing role, well, it makes sense.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:30 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:29 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:26 pm I don't like that he said he trusted sig over RDW on Day 0 drafting, and gave sig the role I drafted for RDW to spite me, I guess...but he's never played with rundontwalk so I won't be too judgy.

I think I know why he felt that way. One needn't even have a read on RDW. To trust sig at all and have no clue about RDW implies that sig is more trusted than RDW. Then when the latter is asking for a killing role, well, it makes sense.

RDW didn't ask for a killing role, he said he doesn't care what role he gets. I suggested it on his behalf.

Did this controversy not begin here:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:37 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:36 pm Give me the wyvern rider and I'll do sig. I don't want to leave thread hanging

No. I don't trust you.

I trust sig. He's getting the role he wants provided he can locate one soon.

Sensible mindset.

97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 pm 97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

If you have some brilliant theory then by all means, speculate.

I don’t care to waste my time.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:44 pm MacDougal is mafia yall

Please tell me all about it.

sprityo, the last time I saw you goofing off you were mafia in a burglary, KNAWMSAYIN?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:06 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 pm 97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

If you have some brilliant theory then by all means, speculate.

I don’t care to waste my time.

If people keep calling me brilliant I might start believing them.

I think it's bad to ignore draft mechanics I think it can be key to catching scum, even if it doesn't it allows players to talk and to gain insight from how they react. I'm not sure that I like you proclaiming that you're going to be playing a supetown game and your general posts since that proclamation, I think it's about a 60/40 chance right now that you're actually mafia.

Your calculator is broken. I don’t give a shit what you’re sure you like.

dunya
Kylemii
gwilikers6
Dragon D. Luffy
nutella
sig
rundontwalk

Don’t lynch them.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:07 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:44 pm MacDougal is mafia yall

Please tell me all about it.

He gave a strong role to somebody not in the thread and then was all "lol what's going on idk"

Valid gripe.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:53 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:20 pm dunya - If she was selected for the mafia team, I'd expect to see a degree of obsessiveness at least one factor lower. She might lead the thread in posts, but not by doubling second place.
Kylemii - His thoughts on dunya/Epignosis/rundontwalk and the wyvern rider role looked authentically-derived and sincere
gwilikers6 - I like the eagerness I see from him in his first foray into this foreign land.
Dragon D. Luffy - He wants to kill people ASAP and I think it looks true.
nutella - I still think her observation in the rules was a good look.
sig - I already talked about you. I think the "mafia unlikely to select oft-lynched player" thing applies to you more than the rest.
rundontwalk - He didn't falter when I gave him shit, and is well on with his paranoid meta of the Old Times.

Don’t lynch them.

Why
and my calculator is perfect.

See colorful additions.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:14 pm That's funny because I was going to say ColonialBob was mafia based on his plane taxi post. It just felt laid on thick to me. I mean I am on a tropical island 20 feet from the ocean but you didn't know that because I am genuinely distracted and disinterested whereas he had that scummy forced connectivity to the thread that makes you say unnecessary things.

Also I think RDW is a civ. Dunya is a civ. Epignosis and sig are sus. Jimmy is a civ. Colin is a civ. gwilikers6 is sus. Spirityo and nutella are civ. Kyle is a civ. Quin is sus. Rabbit is a civ. Everybody else is null. Brb fishing.

Tell me about the sus crew in as few words as possible.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:16 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:34 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:04 am Dr. White it wasn't your turn so that wasn't valid. you can only assign a role once you've been assigned

you're very quick to jump in helping people with general questions and getting roles out, not as much to chip in with the discussions elsewhere. Care to chip in with something new. A new nutella thought about anyone. A meaningful one please.

pretty sure I mentioned that I civ read rundontwalk in that whole exchange, at least. it's pretty early for me to form opinions on most people though... there's not much to go on and if I try to overanalyze the draft I'll just get a wifom headache

damn, here I go again. I've said this maybe every game I've played here when someone gives me an answer like yours. You townread someone and didn't scum-feel anyone out, or at least not to the point of mentioning it and that pings me. If it were any other laid back Day 0, I wouldn't mind, but there's quite a few things that happened. Call me crazy, but I'm more likely to feel someone is iffy than someone is civvy on Day 0, especially a reasonably active Day 0.

Oh yea, speaking of active. Where the hell is Epignosis? Him specifically cos I value him as a town comrade. He's usually tunneling someone hard by this time...I mean both sig and Long Con are playing. I'm disappointed.

There is one bit that concerns me, nutella, which I've highlighted. I do believe that for many players, perhaps even most, making judgments on Day 0 is beyond them regardless of activity level. They just don't try. It irks me, but it's reality. You're not a player I would associate with that approach though. Maybe you were two years ago, but your game has grown a great deal since I first encountered you, and the most evident change has been in your willingness to fling mud early and often.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:38 pm Has rabbit8 disappeared since the other night? Would we have been waiting for him all this time had Jack not moved the drafting along? Don't think it's a smart scum-move to leave the thread hanging the way he did, so I don't really think he's playing as part of a team.

He has seemed generally absent or lower in activity in multiple games, so I award him zero points.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:34 pm
Oh yea, speaking of active. Where the hell is Epignosis? Him specifically cos I value him as a town comrade. He's usually tunneling someone hard by this time...I mean both sig and Long Con are playing. I'm disappointed.

I have read nothing and have no intention of doing so until it suits me.

You've read enough to catch that within 10 minutes.