The Syndicate

[mention]dunya[/mention], looks like the quick reply function in this forum is turned off. Assuming that's unintentional (and probably my fault from making the forum

), I'll get that fixed.

Also, I'm the white dude that looks like a prick. Which one you ask? Impossible question.

Okay I think we're set.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:38 pm Yo sup fellow gossipers

bad

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:50 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:38 pm Yo sup fellow gossipers
bad
no

Too late. I've already performed the calculations.

Good: juliets, Elohcin, Spacedaisy

Bad: nutella, Mongoose

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:22 pm Wrong

About all of them?

Owner good.

indiglo bad

Matahari good

Luna bad

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:39 pm Luna bad
I knew you would say this because your snap judgments are highly predictable

Too easy. Probably as wrong about her as you are about me. And perhaps maliciously so.

Why is that "too easy", any more than calling her "good" would be? Fake post. You're my top suspect.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:46 pm Nope. Your judgments are too easy and thus could be fake. I knew you would call Luna bad because of her "hello friends" tone. And I don't believe you suspect me that much because....why would you? Why do I look fake to you? Start making sense or die.

You're white knighting someone for absolutely no reason. I am making a snap read, you are discrediting it.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:50 am I'm not sold on Luna being town. Though she probably is if you're bad, which is a possibility I am currently giving some weight.

Why am I probably wrong about her (your words), and why does my snap read have bearing on her alignment?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:03 amYou don't seem to be understanding anything I am saying.

Eh? Your answer suggests I understand you, because it is directly applicable.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:03 am1. I think that your snap tone read on her is as bullshit as the one on me was.
2. Following from #1, I do not have any reason to believe she is bad as I disagree with your shallow judgment of the tone of her entry post.
3. Also following from #1, I think you may be faking reads and therefore bad.
4. Following from #3, Luna is probably not bad if you are, because of how you called her out as a suspect so early.

1. What does a bullshit read mean to you?
2. If you disagree with my "shallow judgment of the tone of her entry post", then do you think the tone of her post suggests that she is good?
3. This is the worst thing you have said so far. "and therefore bad" -- you know me better than that.
4. I have called a pile of people bad already. Are they all civilians if I am a mafioso?

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:22 pm indiglo bad

Matahari good
How did you ascertain this?

indiglo took advantage of my goofy posts to make an entry joke, alleviating the pressure faced in making a first post -- more necessary for a mafioso than a civilian.

You asked some innocuous theme question which I thought looked like a more comfortable entry into the thread.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:13 am Hello Jay the civilian how are you today?

I feel a little sloppy inside after a run. Any other civilians around here?

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:12 am Excellent. I like the way you think.

Is this to imply you agree with my take on indiglo?

[mention]MacDougall[/mention], temporary sig bet for the most accurate soul reads when the game is over.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:25 am I am 70% sure that the scum team is Indi, Owner and Spacedaisy

This was your 11,111th post.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:17 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:11 am
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:22 pm indiglo bad

Matahari good
How did you ascertain this?
indiglo took advantage of my goofy posts to make an entry joke, alleviating the pressure faced in making a first post -- more necessary for a mafioso than a civilian.

You asked some innocuous theme question which I thought looked like a more comfortable entry into the thread.
Man it keeps happening. Maybe you really do think these things, but I can so easily see the exact opposite readings of those respective tones.

Well yeah no kidding. You’re telling me a Day 0 first page post may have multiple interpretations? What color is the sky?

I don’t care. This thread doesn’t budge unless someone makes it budge.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:39 am GOOD: mac, JJJ

BAD: Lunalee, nutella

And now begins the battle of the sexes.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:51 am Jay we're both online let's hurl shit at each other you mafia piece of trash

Oh my god so like get this. I heard from one of my girlfriends that you might have like joined the mafia or something. Like whaaaaaat? That would be so wild oh my god. It’s totally not true like of course... right?

- Gossip Jay XOXO

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:04 am Good morning friends and boyfriends.

Boyfriend Jay, can you speak to why you felt nutella's first post (her "yo" post) struck you as bad? It struck me as normal nutella, but then I don't have the gift of being able to read people off of one post.

Boyfriend reywas, I'd be careful calling women "boobs" in this game.

5% “fellow gossipers” as a Buscemi entry
95% nutella will definitely fight me

I think her posts got worse after the first one. Her tone is good though. She just saying whacke things

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:06 am @JaggedJimmyJay why do I have only 8 civilian wins on the all time list but 13 in the most civvie wins list? Are you trying to intentionally suppress my greatness?

Good question. I’ll check it out.

Can I have y'all's thoughts on nutella please and thank you

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:46 am @JaggedJimmyJay you seem awfully quite in this game as compared to the other games you have been in recently or now. This gives me the heebie jeebies. Why so quiet and is nutella still your leading candidate for lynch?

I am focused on the other game right now. This one will get its turn. I don’t think I will vote for nutella.

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:32 pmFurther thoughts on my previous post:

I just disliked the way it was 3J trying to guide / run the day's conversations. I know from past experience he has a tendency to do that, however it did make it hard for me to form opinions on others, because it felt like he was the ring master. I don't want to look to anyone else to tell me how to feel, or "create content" or direct the thread, or lead discussion. Makes it too easy for others to just sit back and watch, if that makes sense.

Does your "dislike" imply that you suspect me for my Day 0 behavior?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:32 am I got a more fake vibe from it than I have gotten from civ jay poo-flinging in other games though. Like it was more forced than usual and I feel like he usually tries to generate more varied/interesting content at the beginning of d1 than just "Z bad, Y bad, X good" for several posts.

This thread is where it is right now because of my stupid poo flinging. You could trace back much of the game-relevant content right now to the soul reads provided by either Mac or myself.

You're welcome.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:15 pm Good: juliets, Elohcin, Spacedaisy

Bad: nutella, Mongoose
Can you explain why the nutella is particularly bad? Do they taste funny or is the date overdue?

nutella seems fine. juliets asked me the same thing and I answered here. Also, given that the Buscemi reference was unclear, allow me to elaborate.

Mongoose wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:31 pm Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

That's an advantage. Who cares about what's typical? Tell me what you feel in your heart.

I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:00 pm I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.
What is your exact reason for suspecting me? Because I make jokes?

That discredit up there where you "dislike" my Day 0 approach or whatever because it "made it harder to read other people's opinions". That looks quite fake to me.

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:41 pm You, obviously, are free to play how you see fit. I am free to form opinions about that playstyle when I am involved in the game as well.

Sure you are. Consider for a moment that the discussion between nutella and Matahari was still directly related to what I did on Day 0. That's the whole point.

What did you learn about those two in their dialogue?

Mongoose wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:03 pm For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ? When someone believes something about you that is so patently untrue, the frustration becomes palpable.

Apologies for the leading question, but I really want to know the veracity of my (foregone?) conclusion.

In a vacuum I agree with this assertion. The last few years though have seen enough people cleared for their frustration that many mafia members have adapted and portrayed similar frustration to earn that credit. It's something that I think should be assessed case-by-case and with respect to the [perceived] personality of the player in question.

Do you think someone in this game has appeared authentically frustrated, as in having a civilian character?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:34 pm Jay out here saying none of us could have accomplished anything without the men
Smash the patriarchy

Women are perfectly capable of hurling out reads too. Y'all ain't do dat tho.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:00 pm I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

I suspect Lunalee but I would feel bad lynching her first again.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:58 am
reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:41 am Nutella didn't say No U and I know she knows the saying SMH
Lunalee is bad because she said the party could begin while not being the last person to check in. SMH

JJJ is good because he also thinks these two boobs (see what I did there) are bad
Mac is good for reason i gave above.
Hi Rey. It's okay, you don't have to like me. I have plenty of friends.
Careful trusting Mac and Jay just because they agree with your reads. That's actually a terrible reason to trust someone.

Do you suspect rey for this? Do you suspect either Mac or myself? What is this?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:32 pmAnd yes, I do suspect you Jay.

k, y

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:40 pm I made a list of impressions, well, I started one, when I realized that I was judging by standards from five or more years ago. Mafia tactics and individual playing styles change so I’m really out of the loop here.
These are the things I used to consider in the early days of a game:
Old standards- aggression, creating confusion, hiding
Older standards- creating questionable suspicion on someone, and having a teammate eventually second it, subtly defending an accused teammate and have another mate deflect by throwing attention elsewhere.
None of this is going to help me have a certainty about someone’s innocence or guilt. I may wind up looking at players I think are hiding, like, in plain sight. (Hiding doesn’t necessarily mean absent or being quiet)

I'd be pleased to see what you'd prepard even if you believe it to be outdated.

I explained my suspicions of Luna and indiglo, and neither of them have shit to do with anything on Day 0.

I have to devote my present energy to the other game, so I am kind of throwing shit out here in isolated moments while I work. That's all I can do right now.

nutella handled my suspicions much more gracefully (in her own abrasive manner of grace) than indiglo. Luna looks better than indiglo too. indiglo hasn't actually provided a read.

[VOTE: indiglo] aubergine

Alright, I have like 45 minutes in here before I have to go to class. I should be free just prior to EOD, but only just prior.

Someone tell me why indiglo is a civilian.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:51 pm
Too late. I've already performed the calculations.
What do your calculations usually consist of? (or is this a joke that I accidentally read into?)

That was a joke.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:44 pm I am gonna dub that read "Explainer Salad" because lol.

I'm on board.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:00 pm I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.
I suspect Lunalee but I would feel bad lynching her first again.

I suspect Matahari but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

This has that "I'm accusing people who have no names" vibe:

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:04 am So, with that thought covered, I’ll now voice an opinion, although it is apt to change. I frequently find people who are aggressive on day zero and day one, to be bad. At this early point in the game, I’m looking at the aggressive people.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:46 pmI don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

Hol' up, hol' up.

Why?

Why?

How many games have we played together at this point?

"Your Day 0 reads are baseless"

Shall we as a class explore why this assertion has no meaning? It's right there in it.

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