The Syndicate

tutuu scum, vibe is suboptimal

great work Flanders

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:18 pm I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

Her snark about Flanders set off my scum alarm

[VOTE: vote tutuu] aubergine

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:19 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:15 pm everyone scum reading tutuuu. hmmm... what did she do wrong, I don't remember her getting scum read this early.

You said she's been town 37 times straight.

What do you mean by "I don't remember her getting scum read this early"?

So are you just town or did your scum game improve since last I saw you?

We can see your posts yes.

BK town

Can we stop talking about Tutuu for just a lil bit

My Canucks friends think I'm scum which is sad because I think BK and Falcon are definitely town. Flanders is probably just town too, I'm sure he'll let us know if he's not.

NIK is either trying to spin a narrative on me or genuinely expected me to shitpost all day and I'm letting him down. Gonna have to be null on him for now, I know he missed me.

That's it for my rusty rusty meta reads. 112 please arrive soon.

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Other updated thoughts from me Thunal town, their early progression on I think Tutuu seemed believable.

Allison is probably just town, even though I know she likes wolfing.

MacD could be scum, playing a lot like he did early on as scum in Pyre Mafia. Worth noting I'm not very familiar with his play in general though.

I feel like half the player list or less has checked in and most of the discussion is coming from 3 or 4 people so I'm gonna keep chilling.

I'm feeling generous this morning so I'll give MartinGG a slightly townie vibe too just based off this page.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:58 am I don't necessarily read KZA as the kind of player who tends to really propel the game forward consistently in their first few posts. Do you have meta on him that I don't?

Back in my prime I was always a high-content de facto town leader on my home site, so don't be surprised if my friends demand more from me.

I'm a bit more of a supporting character off-site.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:05 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:18 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:58 am I don't necessarily read KZA as the kind of player who tends to really propel the game forward consistently in their first few posts. Do you have meta on him that I don't?

Back in my prime I was always a high-content de facto town leader on my home site, so don't be surprised if my friends demand more from me.

I'm a bit more of a supporting character off-site.

Back in your prime? What, are ya over the hill now?


Got any reads on Alison?

Light town.

Thundercat lock scum

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:46 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.

i dont see it

I also don't see it

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:54 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:46 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.

i dont see it

I also don't see it

What do you see? You've been quiet, interesting to pop in on this read

Well it's not a read, and I posted a bunch of actual reads today. ISO me if curious.

Made wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:09 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:06 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:59 pm Yo....so context clues gave me wolf(being bad)...is sheeping just following people's leads, and if so, is that indicative of alignment? Like is it an extended metaphor "sheep in wolfs clothing" type or something else?

Wolf=Scum=Mafia

Does this help?

I'm slightly confused by what you're asking

What is exactly sheeping? Does it have anything to do with "wolfing"?

Sheeping generally means following someone else's read.

I don't think it's necessarily indicative of alignment. Like a townie could like someone's thought process and sheep them, or a scum could sheep someone to try and blend in and not take responsibility for a read.

At least in my experience.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:21 pm oh and both NIK and KZA can easily be mafia, but I have Falc and Flanders as strong town having played many (many) games with both of them.

Hey buddy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:28 pm KZA how are you reading the game right now?

Lazily, the game isn't really firing yet

I have BoKnows, Falcon, Thrunal, Allison as my townie pile

Personally I just want Tutuu to have some room to breathe and for everyone to show up

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:00 pm So here are my relevant reads:

1. 112 is my top town. Polypies seems town.
2. Alison and Nutella are town but they've completely jumped the shark as players.
3. Tutuu is probably but might not be town and same with Poison. The fact that the majority of the game has been played through reading Tutuu who has been entirely NAI from my perspective meant I just wasted nearly 2 hours of my life catching up for no reason. Poison is actually probably just town too tbh.
4. The CDC clique being given a bunched town clear is the dumbest shit I have ever heard on maths alone let alone that there are actually players within that group that are scummy and some are town.
5. Falcon and Flanders are loltown.
6. KZA, NIK, Made, Sig, Martin all have pretty high equity to be mafia.
7. Anyone pretending to have near to lock reads here has mafia equity.
8. Sloonei is a 3p.
9. Kylemii is my top mafia.

MacD lock scum

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:23 am me
alison
thunal
flanders
boknows
falcon

are all naked town naked voltron

mafia has no chance

if mac and tutuu are town too this game is just over

I really wanna know why BoKnows is here?

small amount of meta/how he was MLed in hydra/+sheeping alison's confidence

I've played a game with BoKnows where he was mafia and he's mafia. My read on him is better than all of this. So flip it or you can die with him.

This isn't a townie mindset imo

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:27 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:23 am me
alison
thunal
flanders
boknows
falcon

are all naked town naked voltron

mafia has no chance

if mac and tutuu are town too this game is just over

I really wanna know why BoKnows is here?

small amount of meta/how he was MLed in hydra/+sheeping alison's confidence

I've played a game with BoKnows where he was mafia and he's mafia. My read on him is better than all of this. So flip it or you can die with him.

This isn't a townie mindset imo

In what way(s)?

Using a 1 game sample size to scumread someone without a second thought?

Not to mention he claimed anyone pretending to have lock reads already has "mafia equity" so he's just contradicting himself

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:40 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:29 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:27 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:52 pm

I really wanna know why BoKnows is here?

small amount of meta/how he was MLed in hydra/+sheeping alison's confidence

I've played a game with BoKnows where he was mafia and he's mafia. My read on him is better than all of this. So flip it or you can die with him.

This isn't a townie mindset imo

In what way(s)?

Using a 1 game sample size to scumread someone without a second thought?

Not to mention he claimed anyone pretending to have lock reads already has "mafia equity" so he's just contradicting himself

Have you played with him before? He didn't really play the simpsons game so this is my first experience.
The way I read that BK scumread felt more like the arrogant tone I've been getting from him. He thinks he's the shit. He reminds me of our cute and skilled monkey, Zfetch.

Although I don't agree with your take, your post felt Kza townie.

I know I could just iso, but would you humour me with your top 3 scum please?

I played with him once but I got killed before he got too active in the game. He happened to be Mafia in that game.

Think want about this but I don't even have 3 scum right now. MacD and Thundercat are the only people I've any serious concern about at this point.

Although I really need to comb through Nutella, Sloonei, Poison lol

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:16 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:06 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:40 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:29 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:27 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:41 pm

I've played a game with BoKnows where he was mafia and he's mafia. My read on him is better than all of this. So flip it or you can die with him.

This isn't a townie mindset imo

In what way(s)?

Using a 1 game sample size to scumread someone without a second thought?

Not to mention he claimed anyone pretending to have lock reads already has "mafia equity" so he's just contradicting himself

Have you played with him before? He didn't really play the simpsons game so this is my first experience.
The way I read that BK scumread felt more like the arrogant tone I've been getting from him. He thinks he's the shit. He reminds me of our cute and skilled monkey, Zfetch.

Although I don't agree with your take, your post felt Kza townie.

I know I could just iso, but would you humour me with your top 3 scum please?

I played with him once but I got killed before he got too active in the game. He happened to be Mafia in that game.

Think want about this but I don't even have 3 scum right now. MacD and Thundercat are the only people I've any serious concern about at this point.

Although I really need to comb through Nutella, Sloonei, Poison lol

Thanks man. How's the valley treating you these days?

Run it's course for me. I plan to move to your city within the next 6 months.

Civvie? I love it

Oooh people are talking about me.

So basically I didn't like Tutuu's early work, observed her frustration, felt less confident about that read, and got quite fed up with the thread being dominated by if Tutuu is being sparkly enough to be town so I encouraged other avenues of thought

On reptiles, since gecko is taken I'd like to rep gila monsters

Man there's always something off about me I guess. I play weird and I don't play often.

I'll try my best guys.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:05 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:47 am

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:41 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:38 am i'm so sorry everyone. i thought KZA's posts about "let's not talk about tutuu" were belonging to Flanders when really they were belonging to KZA. Flanders did make one post suggesting a digression from the topic of Tutuu, but i was thinking of KZA. Flanders did basically the exact opposite thing

Nah, you can iso me. I suggested giving tutuu some space in a post to Alison last night.

yeah but that was after also going after her a bunch earlier.

i suppose the reasoning still applies for you as well, but the slight townread i applied to you was meant for KZa

You are correct. I was the initial push on tutuu.

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:48 am Man there's always something off about me I guess. I play weird and I don't play often.

I'll try my best guys.

I was just following up bud. It's nice to play with you again. Missed ya

I bought a case of Lucky in your honour.

My good buddy 112 has been incredibly uninspiring.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:24 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:20 am My good buddy 112 has been incredibly uninspiring.

She's no different than any game of late. She's not playing the way she used to.

She feels towny to me. I'm more concerned about NIK and BK to a lesser extent.

Oh really? Haven't been following yous guys games lately.

I'll keep a watchful eye on her.

@NIK

You're not getting a free pass my good buddy

Maybe I'm scarred by a past game together but I'm never giving someone as capable as 112 that easy of a town read

Made seems super genuine here.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:46 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:42 am Maybe I'm scarred by a past game together but I'm never giving someone as capable as 112 that easy of a town read

The fact that it's Mac specifically means something tbh bc he was famously scarred by 112 tricking him in F3 of the champs wildcard game last year. So if he's this confident she's town here he believes he's learned a lot since that experience + playing a bunch more times with her since then. It could be that he's mafia and is TMIing her a little if it's strong enough to put her as top town and not have any paranoia there, some possibility they're teammates but ehh, but could be he's town and correct in his confidence given prior experience.

That's an interesting and seemingly hard-to-fake observation that earns you some points in my books.

I am currently a believer in MacScum.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:48 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:47 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:46 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:42 am Maybe I'm scarred by a past game together but I'm never giving someone as capable as 112 that easy of a town read

The fact that it's Mac specifically means something tbh bc he was famously scarred by 112 tricking him in F3 of the champs wildcard game last year. So if he's this confident she's town here he believes he's learned a lot since that experience + playing a bunch more times with her since then. It could be that he's mafia and is TMIing her a little if it's strong enough to put her as top town and not have any paranoia there, some possibility they're teammates but ehh, but could be he's town and correct in his confidence given prior experience.

That's an interesting and seemingly hard-to-fake observation that earns you some points in my books.

I am currently a believer in MacScum.

What's Mac doing if he's scum?

I'm not sure what you mean.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:52 am If Mac is scum what's his game here?

He's not trying to kill any townies as far as I can tell. He isn't trying to pocket anyone or go deep. What's his agenda?

Didn't he try to push a meta scum read on widely town-read BoKnows?

Let me know if Mac has distinct tells to his game as either alignment. Always interested in strong meta knowledge.

Made seems like, the way they presented that reads list, just seems like the way I would post if I were unrestricted (i.e. town). So yeah I'll move Made to a strong town and powerful warrior.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:49 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:46 am Made seems like, the way they presented that reads list, just seems like the way I would post if I were unrestricted (i.e. town). So yeah I'll move Made to a strong town and powerful warrior.

"the way I would post IF I WERE UNRESTRICTED"

SIRENS

That's funny, but I'm baked and not that bad at Mafia

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:23 am me
alison
thunal
flanders
boknows
falcon

are all naked town naked voltron

mafia has no chance

if mac and tutuu are town too this game is just over

I really wanna know why BoKnows is here?

small amount of meta/how he was MLed in hydra/+sheeping alison's confidence

I've played a game with BoKnows where he was mafia and he's mafia. My read on him is better than all of this. So flip it or you can die with him.

Unless you've played on CDC this is a lie.

Oh well then my reason to find Mac suspicious is no longer valid

@BoKnows there are no masons in the game lol

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:16 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:16 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:23 am me
alison
thunal
flanders
boknows
falcon

are all naked town naked voltron

mafia has no chance

if mac and tutuu are town too this game is just over

I really wanna know why BoKnows is here?

small amount of meta/how he was MLed in hydra/+sheeping alison's confidence

I've played a game with BoKnows where he was mafia and he's mafia. My read on him is better than all of this. So flip it or you can die with him.

Unless you've played on CDC this is a lie.

Oh well then my reason to find Mac suspicious is no longer valid

Just looked through KZA's ISO, and dropping a strong scumread on Mac here all of a sudden doesn't really sit right with me. I'd expect town to not say they're wrong so readily and instead repeat other reasons to find Mac suspicious. I also dislike how KZA said they found Thundercat suspicious yet didn't elaborate and didn't seem to have any interest in questioning others on Thundercat or trying to generate more info on them. I scumlean KZA from this ISO since some of their solving feels fake and not from a townie mindset. They kind of just throw out reads but don't seem to care a lot about checking them or developing them.

That's really just how I play

Falcon is almost always level one. Trust me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:01 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:00 pm Falcon is almost always level one. Trust me.

As both alignments?

All of my meta is a bit hazy but I'd say he's typically making level one reads as town and pressing as he has done to this point. As scum he has a notably more aggressive and dickish tone which I haven't picked up from him at all.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:02 pm What level is SSF?

Same as Falcon. Typically my scumtell for SSF is that he forms cases that don't make any sense at all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:01 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:00 pm Falcon is almost always level one. Trust me.

Ur my top towan

Yeah I'm exceptionally talented.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:09 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:02 pm What level is SSF?

Same as Falcon. Typically my scumtell for SSF is that he forms cases that don't make any sense at all.

Kza is a lying fuckface. I'm level 1000

Another note: don't be concerned if Falcon, NIK, or SSF verbally assaults another CDCer. It's how they show affection.

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:12 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:09 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:03 pm Guys sloonjack slot is literally the most obvious mafia i've ever seen none of either of their posts are redeemable

This is a real question.

Do you want more Jack or less Jack?

Less in the sense that I want your slot to no longer be in the game when I wake up in the morning

Lol not happening.

Does this mean you will shovel suspicion on anyone who agrees to vote for you?

Hi Grand Scheme.

Could you outline on your progression on Thunal? You had her as town early but today decided she's scum and worthy of your vote?

Feel like NIK wagon is far too easy and certainly won't be voting there.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Yeah that feels okay

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:40 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:43 pm *waits earnestly to see Long Con's reaction to being called a boomer and receiving a cheek-pecking*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:41 pm I bet a million dollars Long Con is mafia lol

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:18 pm

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:12 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:09 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:03 pm Guys sloonjack slot is literally the most obvious mafia i've ever seen none of either of their posts are redeemable

This is a real question.

Do you want more Jack or less Jack?

Less in the sense that I want your slot to no longer be in the game when I wake up in the morning

Lol not happening.

Does this mean you will shovel suspicion on anyone who agrees to vote for you?

Hi Grand Scheme.

Could you outline on your progression on Thunal? You had her as town early but today decided she's scum and worthy of your vote?

Just a hunch.

Huh.

Okay I won't be voting for Grand Scheme I guess.

Crap I'm out of time and very low chance I wake up before 7AM tomorrow.

Don't let the NIK wagon runaway, it's too easy. All I got.