The Syndicate

hi mates
reading 300+ posts first thing in the morning aahh :’D

i tend to become rly paranoid during these games so yall better give me a power to wreak havoc

still no role? zzzz
it be always like this lol in the end it’s me and the fat kid no one wants to pick in their team

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:32 am no! How does this work?

dude give a role so we can get started someday

you can’t edit posts here? is it a hidden function or to prevent people deleting their slip-ups?

[mention]Dr. White[/mention]
Be a nomad

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am @Kites, I've seen you online down there a few times but no new posts. What's going on in that head of yours?

honestly this game is confusing me a lot and i’ve just tried to keep up with everything, my mind is filled with gameplay related questions but i guess i understand better once the game actually begins and i get my rolecard/backstory or whatever

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:47 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am Kites, I've seen you online down there a few times but no new posts. What's going on in that head of yours?
honestly this game is confusing me a lot and i’ve just tried to keep up with everything, my mind is filled with gameplay related questions but i guess i understand better once the game actually begins and i get my rolecard/backstory or whatever
that's understandable, everyone and everything is new. It's new to everyone here too. Feel free to ask gameplay related questions as they come to you though, you never know how the answers could help us.

yeah sure

do you have your notebook filled with suspicions and theories yet?

taking notes would be a good idea in a game this big but i really don’t wanna stress over this

yeah kenway’s reaction was sincere imo, maybe cos my thoughts were p much identical but he posted first so i didn’t bother to say anything

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:51 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 pm yeah kenway’s reaction was sincere imo, maybe cos my thoughts were p much identical but he posted first so i didn’t bother to say anything
Can you clarify exactly which thoughts you had which were identical to Kenway's?

i thought scum team recruit would happen during drafting, not before it

i wonder
how can i not
recognise him
being the same blood

my backstory doesn’t specify country either

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] question about my power
”If your target uses an offensive action against a player who is not part of Lord Rico's army, they have a 15% chance to nightkill their target”

So if i target a player who executes a nightkill, his/her chance to succeed is reduced from 100 to 15?
or does it mean that any offensive action, not necessarily nightkill, has a 15% chance to kill the target?
or something else?

also does anyone have contradicting role / backstory info regarding your gender? archers are females and i’m a woman according to my backstory, i just wanna know if they’re intended to match or not

i’ll try to be more active tomorrow. for me it’s really hard to catch up and come up with original cases and stuff someone else hasn’t already said if i’m not there at the start, i feel like i’m constantly 10 steps behind everyone else
good night

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:06 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:04 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:48 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:01 pm also does anyone have contradicting role / backstory info regarding your gender? archers are females and i’m a woman according to my backstory, i just wanna know if they’re intended to match or not

i’ll try to be more active tomorrow. for me it’s really hard to catch up and come up with original cases and stuff someone else hasn’t already said if i’m not there at the start, i feel like i’m constantly 10 steps behind everyone else
good night
I am a man but I look like a woman. I'm not sure what you mean by "archers are females", is this established somewhere? This strikes me as fishing for people's genders for something role related. Could obviously be either a town or a scum role, but noted.
I asked you this before: how do you know you look like a woman? Did your role come with a photo? I didn't get one.
also, I think @Kites meant to say archers are males and he's a woman. or archers are females and he's a man. The sentence and contradiction doesn't exist in his post as it stands now.

Let us know what you meant, Kites.

oh my wording can be confusing sometimes

archers are referred to as ”her” there’s no contradiction, i wanted to know if that’s the case for everyone.

please don’t let this thing distract you tho. i asked because under certain, but very unlikely, conditions there’s an effect on my action so it’s a really minor thing and not worth paying attention at this point

@drwilgy has posted nothing in like 2.5 days and it’s all roleplay

but to answer epignosis’ question, if you were a don who would you pick?: i would pick 2 rym
dunya: i don’t want to play against her, no no

+ it’d be super fun

gwilikers6: cos he is a good bloke

and 2 other, all of non rym players are unknown to me so just randomly like marmot and dr. white

i remember [mention]Iron_Dwarf[/mention] being a quiet lurker when he is a baddie

. he did give a valid reason why he can’t post on sunday but do join us

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:18 am I randomly <3 Kites.

furry animals are my weakness

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:40 pm
Kenway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:38 pm Oh wait, Sloonei isn't in this game, I have to pick another one up.

JJJ is the likeliest candidate but putting him and Dunya on a scum team is probably predictable, so I'll choose MacDougall instead. I don't know why but I always want to be on his good side. Also, I've been scum with him before, so there's that.
This post is so scummy you've gotta be town.

what do you mean by this? it was obviously an answer to epignosis’ question.

speaking of epignosis, he’s the most suspicious person imo. i don’t know if this ”who would your mafia mates be” survey is a common thing on this site but i don’t remember people doing it in rym games. it doesn’t give any useful information, cos the answer is so easy to fake it might actually help scum mislead people i dunno

i think he’s just tryna make a false impression he’s contributing sth valuable to the game

VOTE EPIGNOSIS

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:52 amThis is a weak argument IMO, but I still want to know why gwilkers thinks that’s scum.

yeah well it’s been all talk and no action so far, i always just follow my instinct on day 1

[2] TonyStarkPrime - Long Con, nutella
[1] DrWilgy - Marmot
[1] lapluie - JaggedJimmyJay
[1] rabbit8 - colonialbob
[1] sprityo - Dragon D. Luffy
[1] Quin - dunya
[1] Epignosis - Kites

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Not Voting: ColinIsCool, Dr. White, DrWilgy, Epignosis, gwilikers6, Iron_Dwarf, Kenway, Kylemii, lapluie, MacDougall, Quin, rabbit8, rundontwalk, sig, sprityo, TonyStarkPrime

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:12 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:25 am rundontwalk
JaggedJimmyJay
dunya
MacDougall
sprityo
gwilikers6
Kylemii
colonialbob
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
Dr. White
ColinIsCool
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
rabbit8
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
Kites
Quin
lapluie
DrWilgy

For someone who put Epi/Colin in the civ/civ pile, Colin sure is thrown down under Epi for strategic reasons, isn't he? Easier to lynch for you?

Tell me more about kites and what you think of kites. Is this your first ever mention of him, to put him so low on your rainbow. Explain.

Why do you think lap and Wilgy are more likely to be scum than anyone else?

yes [mention]nutella[/mention] pls roast me would you, im playing p much the worst game of my mafia career but no one really cares

anyone got a tally I have no idea what’s the vote situation right now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:51 am Just had a look at Quin's ISO. He was super active and talkative during the draft and has gone way into his shell. He has appeared in the thread occasionally to toss random questions at random players and has refused to offer a single scum read. He doesn't have a scum read because he isn't looking. He is blendy as fuck. If you kids are looking for leads look no further. Go analyse his ISO and see for yourself.

who is this guy lol
joking aside yeah his contributions are non existent

AUBERGINE

[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[5] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, rundontwalk, dunya, ColinIsCool
[1] Dr. White - JaggedJimmyJay
[3] Epignosis - Kites, Marmot, Iron_Dwarf
[1] Marmot - Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] lapluie - colonialbob
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] Kenway - Dragon D. Luffy

No vote: Dr. White, DrWilgy, Kylemii, lapluie, nutella, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

Corrected: I was the first to vote Epignosis, idk why I wasn’t brought up in the Colin-Epignosis drama cos I think I started it, Colin agreed with me and pretty much just used the arguments I said

people voting for players with almost 0 content (rabbit8, lapluie) are taking the easy way out. ynching them, however may they flip, will tell us nothing at all. inactive people are bad lynches on day 1 imo

no lynch

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:50 pm NOOO Nutella no!

[VOTE: unvote quin] aubergine

[VOTE: quin] aubergine

did you do sth to prevent the lynch, being the last vote?

btw are we allowed to talk during night

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:32 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:31 pm btw are we allowed to talk during night
Jack opened the thread so yes ofc

oh okay

in rym games it was usually forbidden

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:36 pm huh.... then the jack edit.

okay so there's a poll to decide who joins Rico's army... what are the actual benefits and disadvantages of joining the army proper?

i can’t use my ”soften em up” power on rico’s army

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:45 pm Can I view the results of the poll without voting or is this like a RYM poll?

vote and don’t be a wuss lol

but yeah mates this was the lamest outcome i wanted blood!

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:20 pm so are we gonna believe Epi stopped the lynch and not analyze why or how it happened? that's not a very passive role imo.

kinda risky to lie and take the credit for it

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:29 pm
Spoiler: show

dunya
JJJ
Epi
Mac
rdw

sprityo
JJJ
dunya
MM
Cbob

JJJ
random with tweaks (first answer)
(second answer:)
dunya
rdw
Quin
Epi

Cbob
random

Epi
dunya
JJJ
LC
nutella

DDL
Epi
LC
Quin
Colin

MM
lapluie
gwilikers
Tony
Dr. White

nutella
JJJ
Mac
dunya
Any rym

Kylemii
Quin
dunya OR JJJ
LC OR Epi OR nutella
Wilgy OR lapluie OR Any rym

Tony
dunya
Cbob
JJJ
random

Mac
gwilikers
rdw
dunya
Wilgy

Colin
random

sig
Wilgy
MM
rabbit
Mac

gwilikers
Unknown people

lapluie
MM

LC
Kylemii
nutella
Sloonei
lapluie

Dr. White
MM
random

Quin
DDL
dunya
Epi
LC OR rabbit

Kenway
dunya
Sloonei
Epi
Kylemii
JJJ OR Mac

Kites
dunya
gwilikers
Two non-rym

Iron Dwarf
dunya
rdw
JJJ
Mac

Spoiler: show
This is the number of times a player was mentioned. Decimals are owing to the fact that some people said one of a pair or trio, so that point was divided accordingly.

dunya 10.5
JJJ 7
Epi 5.3
Mac 5
rdw 4
Marmot 4
Quin 3
gwilikers 3
LC 2.8
nutella 2.3
lapluie 2.3
Wilgy 2.3
Cbob 2
Kylemii 2
Sloonei 2
rabbit 1.5
Colin 1
Tony 1
Dr. White 1
DDL 1

Iron_Dwarf 0
Kenway 0
Kites 0
sig 0
sprityo 0

1. A non-player (Sloonei) got more votes (two) than sig. Jesus, guy. The same is true of Iron_Dwarf, Kenway, Kites, and spriyo. I am calling these people civilian until further notice.

2. The two highest voted people were nutella and Quin. nutella was 13% mentioned and Quin was 17% mentioned.

3. dunya and JJJ are at the top of the list. dunya has a whopping 10.5 mentions- the only double-digit pick. JJJ is second with 7 mentions. Rather than discuss the obvious implication here, I want to point out a different observation: Nobody voted for either of them except Wilgy. Over 58% of the respondents said they would recruit dunya...and none of them voted for her. Not one. And Wilgy didn't respond. Likewise, JJJ was in 39% of the lineups, but nobody at all voted for him. Why is that? Over half the field said they would recruit dunya. Over a third said they would recruit JJJ. That doesn't mean they were recruited, but the numbers implicate them at face value. That should not be ignored, nor should the two highest drafted people get to dismiss accusations against them as "tinfoil" just because they post a lot. I want this to be a point of discussion moving forward to a healthy extent: If you said you would draft dunya or JJJ, why don't you suspect either of them?

4. I'm a lock civilian.

5. I am not impressed by those who gave branching feedback. The "I-would-pick-him-or-her-or-him-but-not-all-three" sort. If you were the mafia leader, you would have to pick, not waffle. Those who did this specifically are Kylemii, Quin, and Kenway. Therefore Kenway gets removed from my list in the first point.

6. Speaking of Kenway, Kenway was the second person to name Sloonei as a person to draft. There was discussion that that was too evil to be truly evil. I don't agree. There was other discussion that Kenway tries to be as truthful as possible. Appearing blatantly ignorant is one way to accomplish that.

7. Colin was the main person to question all of this, and he got pretty peeved over everything. Getting upset doesn't move me, but context does, and from all of this I do not suspect Colin. I am unhappy that he shat on my exercise, but I respect a man who can stand his ground. He goes back to the neutral pile. What I mean is that I don't think he was deliberately trying to get me to expose myself prematurely.

8. Fuck rabbit.

9. I lied about my own picks (heh heh), but included them in this analysis anyway (heh heh). Why did I do that?

10. I found Marmot's list to be the least believable.

11. I found MacDougall's list to be the most believable.

12. Seriously, a non-player got more votes than sig. Jesus sig.

People are going whine about "wine in front of me" and all that, but the fact is that most of the people who contributed to the survey are civilians.

So I don't care.

Votes:

Spoiler: show
[6] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, dunya, ColinIsCool, rundontwalk, JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Iron_Dwarf
[6] Quin - Dragon D. Luffy, nutella, , colonialbob, Marmot, Kylemii, Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] dunya - DrWilgy

i voted for you because you’ve done almost no effort reading people, everything you do is revolving around compiling and analysing the stats rather than giving personal opinions which isn’t really any harder for mafia to pull off

anyways this is nice and interesting indeed but i don’t think you should call anyone a civ based on not getting votes. i knew my name wouldn’t be mentioned because i’m literally the least familiar person to everyone here and that the top spot is a popularity contest, no doubt dunya and jjj would be up there

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:41 pm dunya
Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay
sig
gwilikers6
rundontwalk
Iron_Dwarf
Kylemii
sprityo
ColinIsCool
Long Con
Dragon D. Luffy
Kenway
Kites
DrWilgy
lapluie
rabbit8
colonialbob
Dr. White
Marmot
TonyStarkPrime
Quin
nutella

For your viewing pleasure.
@Long Con @Kites @Kenway @Dragon D. Luffy would you care to inform me as to why your colour should be greener?

yellow is the right place for me as of now cos i haven’t got shit done in this game yet

feels at the moment:
I’m comfortable around:
ColinIsCool
Dr. White
dunya
JJJ
Long Con
MacDougall
Marmot
Neutral:
DDL
gwilikers6
Kylemii
rdw
sprityo
Hmmmm... :
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
nutella
rabbit8: the longer he’s gone the more I think he’s just not interested in this game
sig
TonyStarkPrime
Confused:
Epignosis - pls start giving reads on people, I’ll leave you alone for now tho
lapluie - post more
Quin - you gotta do more to redeem yourself
Bad feeling:
colonialbob - changed his votes frequently, almost exclusively between inactive people to invite them to talk - afraid to be responsible for false lynch?
DrWilgy - no useful content, weird dunya vote and no explanation

I hope I did the colors right

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:08 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:05 am RYMers: please help me out here. Would you call me a great scum player or a great town leader? Be honest, I won't be angry. No one here from The Syndicate has seen me as scum yet and they're questioning my alliance based on my abilities to post 500+ in a game by Night 1 as scum.
@ColinIsCool
@MacDougall
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Kenway
@Kites
@Iron_Dwarf
@gwilikers6
@rundontwalk

I won't defend myself against this accusation in specific anymore. I've said all that can be said.

you’re great playing either side but of course i remember you as one of the greatest scum hunters

i ain’t gonna approve of any voting based solely on the survey

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:10 am
Kites wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:10 am i voted for you because you’ve done almost no effort reading people
Have you?

not really but i can’t vote myself can i?

well i just did the rainbow list thingy on the previous page

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:28 am The Evil Army of Badguyia
Five Finger General Thumb
Five Finger General Pointer
Five Finger General Middle
Five Finger General Ring
A Tragic Loyalist - If you are lynched, all townies will be roleblocked the following night.
*secrets*
Five Finger General Pinky
lapluie - Thief 2
sig - Wyvern Rider

new mafia power revealed

btw do those with a power to kill, [mention]sig[/mention] for instance, plan to use it every night? your role is powerful and scary in wrong hands i think we should know what you’re doing with it

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:05 am @Kites, did you see my comment on cBob. You didn't reply to me about how his defence makes you feel.

missed it. lemme go back and read

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:41 am
Kites wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:35 am colonialbob - changed his votes frequently, almost exclusively between inactive people to invite them to talk - afraid to be responsible for false lynch?
I called him out on that. He said he was moving his vote between inactives in case he wasn't here during the end of day so that if they were lynched, he wouldn't feel bad, or less bad, since they were inactives. Or something like that. Does that make you feel better or worse about him?

dunno, nutella lynch was going already p strong before he started switching and at that point i was sure that an inactive wasn’t going be lynched that day so they feel like throwaway votes

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:17 am
Kites wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:16 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:41 am
Kites wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:35 am colonialbob - changed his votes frequently, almost exclusively between inactive people to invite them to talk - afraid to be responsible for false lynch?
I called him out on that. He said he was moving his vote between inactives in case he wasn't here during the end of day so that if they were lynched, he wouldn't feel bad, or less bad, since they were inactives. Or something like that. Does that make you feel better or worse about him?
dunno, nutella lynch was going already p strong before he started switching and at that point i was sure that an inactive wasn’t going be lynched that day so they feel like throwaway votes
The point was he wasn't feeling a nutella lynch. He didn't want to support it.

”i don’t like this, i don’t like that, i wanna vote someone who’s not going to come back here and question my vote” not much thought process behind any of it, gotta say that the quin bandwagon was convenient tho
the guy is suspicious imo

but i’ll wait and see what’s gonna happen in the next 48 hours

for the record i used my other ability to prevent fliers from targeting dunya

it can either stop wyvern’s kill attempt, and/or pegasus’ saving so it’s kinda tricky to use, the outcome may not be what i wanted, in this case protecting

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:57 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:24 pm for the record i used my other ability to prevent fliers from targeting dunya

it can either stop wyvern’s kill attempt, and/or pegasus’ saving so it’s kinda tricky to use, the outcome may not be what i wanted, in this case protecting
wait you have two separate targets? I thought the "fliers can't target your target" referred to the target of your main ability. I guess I misunderstood that. Also what do you mean by pegasus "saving"? It's a misdirect, the target isn't protected but has the target of their ability changed.

yeah misdirect is the right word, i was thinking of paladin

it means that whoever i target, can not be targeted by fliers. having two abilities i can use both of them or just one, but i can only target one person. i didn’t use the other

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:27 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:24 pm If someone misdirected dunya it would have to be one of the Pegasus Knights, who have both already claimed their misdirect. Because Jay bodyguarded dunya and he is cavlary.

Kites wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:24 pm for the record i used my other ability to prevent fliers from targeting dunya

it can either stop wyvern’s kill attempt, and/or pegasus’ saving so it’s kinda tricky to use, the outcome may not be what i wanted, in this case protecting
So with these two combined, dunya cannot have been misdirected unless Jay is lying. Meaning TonyStark's Goodguyia ID should be genuine.

or i was misdirected :P too many variables lol

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:16 pm How likely is it two people have the same backstory roles in this game? I remember reading something about that, someone please remind me because I have a theory now involving 2 players.

i’d say it’s very likely there’s someone with a similar story to mine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:18 pm @kites you're also scum. Well how bout dat.

Looks like Don Scumioso went the wifom team route. Intriguing.

That means Dr. Wilgy is scum. We should lynch him.

mac never fails to entertain me

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:56 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:01 am btw do those with a power to kill, @sig for instance, plan to use it every night? your role is powerful and scary in wrong hands i think we should know what you’re doing with it
Don't like this post it's fear mongering, also if I talked about my role mafia could just block/protect whoever I targeted. I will use it when I see fit, people in here can suggest to me targets within the first say 10 hours of the night or the previous day phase and I'll decide if I want to target those people or not.

i just wanted to know if you targeted anyone last night, dunya asking the same and no i don’t think we should know who you are targeting before the night comes

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:48 pm
Spoiler: show
Kites wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:35 am feels at the moment:
I’m comfortable around:
ColinIsCool
Dr. White
dunya
JJJ
Long Con
MacDougall
Marmot
Neutral:
DDL
gwilikers6
Kylemii
rdw
sprityo
Hmmmm... :
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
nutella
rabbit8: the longer he’s gone the more I think he’s just not interested in this game
sig
TonyStarkPrime
Confused:
Epignosis - pls start giving reads on people, I’ll leave you alone for now tho
lapluie - post more
Quin - you gotta do more to redeem yourself
Bad feeling:
colonialbob - changed his votes frequently, almost exclusively between inactive people to invite them to talk - afraid to be responsible for false lynch?
DrWilgy - no useful content, weird dunya vote and no explanation

I hope I did the colors right

@Kenway Can you explain your rainbow list in a little bit more detail please?

i went through all ISOs and gave everyone a color based on how i felt about them. for the most suspicious people i gave an explanation, if you want more details on someone specifically, just ask

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