The Syndicate

Sup friends

Wow nanook rude

I’ve been playing ww for 6ish years. I tend towards a townread focused approach, though to a greater degree the smaller the game. Pretty interaction focused. Think people would generally define me as a bit of a slow starter but if I’m at the quicker end of that range really it depends on what you define as slow.

Enjoy both alignments, preference swings around a little at any given moment

I’m 20 if you ask a realworld calendar and in my 800s or so if you ask how many birthdays I’ve had

Nl is moving after picking possible or? Rip

Sick sick

Tyty

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:59 am i wonder if most of the mechanics of the game are already spelled out in the OP or if there are likely to be hidden ones coming up later

My entirely unsubstantiated guess would be a decent amount more but idk

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:08 am what do you think of brainbomb so far lissa

Seems like brainbomb really

Half want to think the cronyism thingo mildly >rand v but also feel like it seems almost overplayed a bit

moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:21 am anyway I mostly liked macdoug, nutella, sloon, and kza so far
I dont think theres a wolf in that bunch

having four what seem to be described as at least decently strong villa reads at this point feels a bit incongruent with the rest of the mindset you’ve showed up to now

moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:28 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:25 am
moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:21 am anyway I mostly liked macdoug, nutella, sloon, and kza so far
I dont think theres a wolf in that bunch
having four what seem to be described as at least decently strong villa reads at this point feels a bit incongruent with the rest of the mindset you’ve showed up to now
Where has my mindset been transparent so far

you otherwise read as aggressive, distrustful, and not wanting others to trust too easily

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:38 am cmon bro, i know moth is your alt

we've played together before too, though im not sure you will remember it

He doesn’t know who you are I think

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:40 am interesting, looks like 2 triumvirates will not fill

oh huh, yeah there are 10

so actually three

damn what a rollercoaster

outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:17 am who are the wolves lissa

think moth is kinda wolfy

don’t really have too much else in the way of reads rn

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:55 am very kind of u

I guess I maybe lied about those reads I kind of want to just like u know play mafia and stuff but i didnt wanna be obnoxious by saying smth like "cam we shitpost less guys pls" but like then i wasnt invested in manufacturing fake reads since im an innocent town and thats the dirty scummers job to do but like then again maybe they werent that manufcstured i guess i kinda tr moth for them being so "out there" and i wanted to tr macdougall cuz he was nice to me and i wanted to sr outed wolf cuz they were taking moths shenanigans too seriously or at least thats how i perceived it and that just made me remember i also had a dumb scumread on nutella for that one post where she took moths shenanigans seriously i was like wtf? like "if ur town why wouldnt u just ignore that / respond in jest nutella" was what i was thinking but its a slight thing not that big of a uhh thing /issue / read WHATEVER

This is probably a villager

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:13 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:12 amSup
Who’s town or not town?

Have a decent townread on tutuu.

Don't think I really have other stuff so far? Kinda want to just toss out the moth thing and uturn on that.

Currently reading up, back on a computer hype

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:24 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:12 amSup
You wouldn't have happened to have randed mafia in your first syndicate game would you Lissa? That would be very funny.

It would be funny in a certain sense but thankfully not, no

@Marcher Jovian considering most of it was like half an hour into D0 I don't think I'd even call it that much of a thing, really

I don't have that much of a takeaway from it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:28 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:27 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:24 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:12 amSup
You wouldn't have happened to have randed mafia in your first syndicate game would you Lissa? That would be very funny.
It would be funny in a certain sense but thankfully not, no
Do you enjoy randing mafia?

I do, but the idea of doing so in this game was a touch intimidating for various reasons

moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:33 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:29 pm
moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:27 pm this just feels way too much like mafiascum. Im not sure im enjoying it yet. I need some angst
What can I do to help?
I dunno. I wouldve expected people to say im in my scum meta, or that im memeing too much or that im overdoing it with my antics. But instead people are just arguing im objectively scummy which is really strange.

I did say I thought you were maybe overdoing it at one point p sure

Kinda circled back around though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:30 am I guess I'll just throw away that meta read I thought I had on you

Bastard fiesta is.... not a great example or sample etc. of my wolfing/nonvillaging if that's where that's from

I went into that game intending to be pretty shitposty and chill and occasionally hipfire a bit and then had no idea how to go about this as a non villa in the weird threadstate mix of some people doing that and some being super serious, and it resulted in me just posting poorly

Plus I was semi outed after like an hour and basically openwolfed after that lol.

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:45 pm @Lissa who is your strongest townread rn?

tutuu

feel like this is a bit of an odd question at this point in time/in context of my posting at that point

suppose it was prompted by the tutuu read but I mean like, idk dude all my reads are itt basically, confused about the way you went about asking this when I had like 2 reads and one townread

not picking a triumvirate seems somewhat more likely to come from a villager

moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:08 pm my townread on him is that nobody seemed interested in pushing there. which gave me an impression scum wasnt into going that way.

could you talk about this/why you think this a bit more

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:52 am So like I actually have nfi what the triumvirate thing is about

affects stats when members of your triumvirate die

affects how much sol (currency) you gain each phase

could possibly do other stuff as well but that's the public info, it gets a bit more specific than i was in the op

moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:56 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:50 am
moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:08 pm my townread on him is that nobody seemed interested in pushing there. which gave me an impression scum wasnt into going that way.
could you talk about this/why you think this a bit more
alot of the reason my scumreads fall out in games is that I subscribe to the idea that if my push is wrong eventually, at least 1 scum will sheep me and join that read. After X amount of hours if zero people join me or even comment I usually conclude that scum is way too scared to try to join a moth led lynch- or thay scum doesnt see that lynch being successful.

there have been instances where ive caught scum right away, made the case, and everyone thought I was just really stupid/slow/weird and my ideas had no merit. The last thing id expect is to catch scum early, and other scum to bus based on a moth push.

Alas, I concluded my reasoning for a scumread on outed were lackluster and id not understood we werent even in day 1. but basically nobody agreed that outed could be scum when I was pushing him. only after I decided he could be town was there sudden dismay and discord about outed suddenly being wolfy

ah specific to how you expect people to interact with you/your pushes, gotcha

just didn't really make sense as a generic thing without the meta context

coming back around to you just being a villager i think

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:53 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:30 am I guess I'll just throw away that meta read I thought I had on you
Bastard fiesta is.... not a great example or sample etc. of my wolfing/nonvillaging if that's where that's from

I went into that game intending to be pretty shitposty and chill and occasionally hipfire a bit and then had no idea how to go about this as a non villa in the weird threadstate mix of some people doing that and some being super serious, and it resulted in me just posting poorly

Plus I was semi outed after like an hour and basically openwolfed after that lol.
Actually moreso town meta from the team mafia game than scum meta from that game. You just seemed very happy and involved in that game.

ahh let's not talk about that game, i'm not sure on the precise line of ongoing game reference rules here but it's still ongoing

moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:02 am well if you value accuracy over results youre doing fantastic

are both of the words you used here the ones you meant to use

moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:06 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:03 am
moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:02 am well if you value accuracy over results youre doing fantastic
are both of the words you used here the ones you meant to use
Yes
If you value the fact you got my alignment correct then youre doing well.

if you value a successful mafia game where town gets quality lynches; im not sure we have a rapport necessary to correctly bring scum down because I feel like youd be more inclined to compartmentalize me into a corner where just knowing im town is all im useful for.

oh

not sure. i don't intend to baseline do that, just don't think that particular read is that much of a thing i'm compelled by right now

suppose like, i'm not sure how you're ruling out the "he's a wolf nobody wants to kill right now" world

moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:07 am The way youve evaluated me so far has felt like you just wanna get to a point where you can safely say im a villager and call it good on me.

nah

your posts are just some of the easier to develop reads on itt right now

Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:14 am
moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:07 am The way youve evaluated me so far has felt like you just wanna get to a point where you can safely say im a villager and call it good on me.
nah

your posts are just some of the easier to develop reads on itt right now

more read-thought producing i suppose is a bit more of the word than easier but

kinda like nutella I think

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:22 am
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:21 am kinda like nutella I think
good on bread

i tried nutella for the first time in like november, good stuff. was great on toast/sandwiches

though i hear its different and better in europe (maybe just outside of america in general, idk) vs here

can't do dairy anymore at all anyway so i suppose it doesn't matter rip

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:29 am gg lissa

who are the villagers

i am currently villa reading tutuu, moth, nutella, wilgy

in approximate descending order of strength

(could maybe swap first two, and maaaaybe last two but prob not)

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:37 am why wilgy?

cause he didnt choose a tirum?

ye

its fairly thin but i feel like a wolf not picking likely to at least like... get thwacked into doing that if nothing else

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:44 am who are the wolves lissa

not real sure

marchers question about my strongest townread was kinda weird in context of what i had posted at the time but it's pretty thin / think i can get a better gauge on it if he talks about it a bit more

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:52 am Lissa seems apprehensive. Certainly not as headstrong as some of of the other new voices, but also not very teamwork-oriented yet.

suppose I'm not real sure what your driving point is here

certainly wouldn't describe myself as apprehensive though

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:30 pm
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:29 am @Marcher Jovian considering most of it was like half an hour into D0 I don't think I'd even call it that much of a thing, really

I don't have that much of a takeaway from it
I don't like this response. It feels really wishy-washy "I am neutral and have no strong opinions one way or the other".

@Lissa
Out of:
town/town
nutella wolf
sloonei wolf
scum/scum

where are you leaning right now. I don't care if you want to qualify it by saying it's only by the razor-thinnest of margins. just tell me where your head's at right now.

I mean, that's pretty much literally what I said

I have nutella as a light village read now, I'm not sure on sloonei currently

Not going to force a read

Not sure why you're so concerned with that particular set of interactions

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:47 pm It's one thing saying "I like how moth is speaking" and a whole another thing saying "He doesn't do this in here and does it in wolf chat"

Why would he even complain about not being engaged in thread, in wolf chat??

This issue seems rather silly

Marcher's moth read seems pretty reasonable to me

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:56 pm Reads that come from other games, having a baseline of exactly one game that you didn't even play is exactly the type of reads that wolves make and that villagers never actually care for.
I have no reason to accept or believe that this statement is true.

He also changed the reasoning for his read. When he replied to me in the first place, he moved the goal posts in order to make the read sound legitimate.
What was Position #1, and what did it change into when it became Position #2?
Position 1 : Moth is town for complaining about not being engaged in thread by people (later on he implies that this is an indicator of nervousness, by the way)
Position 2: It's not exactly the talk, it's the tone behind it

So which one is it, is he town because in a world where he'd be a wolf, he'd conceal information from the main thread and post it in wolf chat, or is he town because of his tone?

This is absurdly binary lol

Think you're probably a villager who legit thinks they "caught" something that matters though

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:13 pm @Lissa

Why did/do you think nutella was villagy? I'm not seeing it

Couple of thin tonal attitude things

Feel pretty decent about marcher's posting surrounding that whole thing.

Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:54 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:13 pm @Lissa

Why did/do you think nutella was villagy? I'm not seeing it
Couple of thin tonal attitude things

I kinda don't love my own read on review btw

Meh

moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:09 pm id be willing to lynch:
tonystark
careton
long con
moto

these 4 seem to be hiding.

Why do you read those as hiding more so than others in that posting range?

moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:15 pm Apologies Lissa. can you tell me who the other low pisters are because I reread your post and if id missed some let me know

TonyStarkPrime 38
Carotenoid 25
Long Con 24
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 24
Turnip Head 23
KZA 19
Epignosis 10
motobot 2
DrWilgy 1
Soneji 1

I don't necessarily think you should be wolfreading the other people on this list, but was wondering what about the ones you listed specifically vs the others read as hiding to you

moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:23 pm
Lissa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:20 pm
moth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:15 pm Apologies Lissa. can you tell me who the other low pisters are because I reread your post and if id missed some let me know
TonyStarkPrime 38
Carotenoid 25
Long Con 24
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 24
Turnip Head 23
KZA 19
Epignosis 10
motobot 2
DrWilgy 1
Soneji 1

I don't necessarily think you should be wolfreading the other people on this list, but was wondering what about the ones you listed specifically vs the others read as hiding to you

epi is the mod
I said moto tony long con and careton
I should probably be wary of soneji given the buddying but soneji lurks alot as town
Dr is gonna get modkilled I thought but could be scum

the only one id really forgot was nanook who ill think about. just a null rn

deletion error

turnip and kza intentional exclusions?

don't think dr wilgy is getting modkilled, they just are easier to vote out

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:07 pm Triumvirates: Each Exile will be part of a triumvirate, which can influence certain stats (see Glory and Hope) and Sol accrual.
Do different teams influence different numbers? I don't recall seeing this in the original teams (I don't even remember my team name), maybe this will be revealed later?

Not afaik

The mechanics of how this work are in the OP

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:41 pm yea it mentioned that ppl gain Sol due to their trium

but how do triums influence glory and hope? did i miss it?

Read the glory/hope blurbs

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