The Syndicate

Amy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm I am so supremely confident in my abilities, and so thunderously calm + relaxed, that I will make a single irrelevant post at SOD then peace out for hours on end. I won't do anything villagery, I won't make any reads, I'll make 29 shitposts over the next 23 hours, then once D1 rolls around I'll make an unspecified number of additional shitposts. No cogent thought will escape these handsome lips. I will be illogical, haphazard, superfluous, inessential, pointless, redundant, uncalled for, unwarranted, unjustified, and gratuitous. The effen theorem will catch me with my pants betwixt my ankles. I'll vote off-wagon, talk about random nonsense, and make inappropriate japes concerning my relation to wolfchat. I am preemptively declaring any responses to this post "fair enough". I'll complain about a lack of WIM, the cause of which is nebuluous, obscure, and entirely insufficient. I will fabricate excuses and pretend I am busy to avoid posting in this thread, when in fact I will be watching cartoons and eating cheeto puffs in my underwear. More specifically, black boxer-briefs. You can't stop me. You can't misyeet me. You're powerless. I laugh in your face. I'm a villager, therefore I can do whatever the fuck I want. Go cry in wolfchat, you big baby. While you're poring over the thread, searching for any clue at all to help you in the seer hunt, know that I am still watching those cartoons and eating those cheeto puffs, nary a care in the world. My armpits are bone dry. I'm a villager, what are you going to do about it? Nothing; you will do nothing about it, because that's all you can do. Ligma. What's ligma? Ligma balls.

[VOTE: Sleep] aubergine

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:50 pm ok i just checked to make sure; still town

Based on my trademarked instantaneous avatar read system I believe this to be true.

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:38 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:36 pm

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:32 pm Also, I am more of a post what I think type of person. Some people say that I play differently or opposite of how others do

What do you mean 'post what I think type of person'? Don't we all post what we think?

Sorry, if I didn't word this well. I post whatever is on my head at the moment even it may not be game related. I also rarely reconsider what I have typed.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:34 pm I have decided to go back to just posting things that are funny since apparently no one cared about what I thought.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:32 pm

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:38 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:36 pm

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:32 pm Also, I am more of a post what I think type of person. Some people say that I play differently or opposite of how others do

What do you mean 'post what I think type of person'? Don't we all post what we think?

Sorry, if I didn't word this well. I post whatever is on my head at the moment even it may not be game related. I also rarely reconsider what I have typed.

I think I'm the same way. Do people ask you "why did you post this?" a lot?

why did you post this?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:59 pm Reserved for day 1 flavor (it's real guys it's real).

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:46 pmI don't really like that you backtracked from going "that sounds useless" right to ""it could be productive! I'm in" right when rabbit questioned you if i'm being honest

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:44 pm the strength of her insistence on the proto meta read is rubbing me the wrong way, maybe it's too easy to call it tmi but it does kinda remind me of how i sometimes whiteknight townies as scum

wrong. wrong. wrong. logical fallacy for at least 50 reasons.

its a scumtell if proto was under pressure. he is not.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:52 pm i was joking long con

im still voting nutella iaafr i just pretended to vote u

the list that i posted on the prev page is ordered tim

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:18 am shit i cant do my boy LC like that he deserves an entire post spent on him saying i have him above scirrus in the townreads

(i hope u like this post as ur reading the thread only paying attention to posts that include the words long and con u egomaniac smh)

Benson wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:57 am 4 wolves is what I'm assuming as well.

I have no read on rabbit admittedly. I have reasons to go in either direction but they aren't strong. I might try to ISO or something tonight.
One thing that bothered me specifically was him saying that he liked how I was staying on Amy and that it felt genuine. I can understand why you'd have reason to TR me and I don't know if that holds as one of them. Stuff like that kinda pings me as potentially non-genuine. Also starting to get paranoid pocket attempts are successfully being made (in general) but that's harder to substantiate.
Anyways, I'm on Amy and not Nutella right now for nebulous (or not) reasons. Nutella is worse by many measurements right now.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:49 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am I think if Colin's scum, I'd read his post about the scirrus Amy dichotomy as talking about two town.

which could easily be the world sure

nutella/Tim/Colin/x?

This seems extremely premature.

Alison is lock town!

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:01 pm colin lock town

45/60

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:07 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:46 pm It really doesn't take much to get townread.

I lean LC town for throwing shade on the TR on themself. Not a strong townlean, but if I had to pick.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:40 pmQuestioning the town reads is a ploy I like to use as scum, so this post gave me a little ping.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:43 pm Can't get anything out of Dys or KZA's posts, and LC... looks LC-ish. No reads in those three.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:28 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:24 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:42 pm @Allison

Is straight to "how dare you"/OMGUS/AtE the usual way for v!Nanook to deal with suss? Because this looks a lot like how he pushed off suss from Nutella earlier.

I'm kinda torn because at the time Nutella was top wagon and here we are with Hally top wagon...and both look around and say "hey how about Nanook?" But it isn't like they are making a big reach to suss Nanook I don't think. His reaction isn't really jiving to me, but I don't know him.

@nutella is this as familiar as I'm thinking it looks?

Fwiw I'm always slightly offended/bewildered at being scumread

This is not a good combination with somewhat scummy thread presence. You give a smattering of very early (meaning of dubious quality) reads and then mostly peace out until someone calls you on having done very little as if they are wrong? What's the thinking behind this?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:33 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:30 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:28 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:24 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:42 pm @Allison

Is straight to "how dare you"/OMGUS/AtE the usual way for v!Nanook to deal with suss? Because this looks a lot like how he pushed off suss from Nutella earlier.

I'm kinda torn because at the time Nutella was top wagon and here we are with Hally top wagon...and both look around and say "hey how about Nanook?" But it isn't like they are making a big reach to suss Nanook I don't think. His reaction isn't really jiving to me, but I don't know him.

@nutella is this as familiar as I'm thinking it looks?

Fwiw I'm always slightly offended/bewildered at being scumread

This is not a good combination with somewhat scummy thread presence. You give a smattering of very early (meaning of dubious quality) reads and then mostly peace out until someone calls you on having done very little as if they are wrong? What's the thinking behind this?

Are Nanook's reads more dubious in quality than other reads put forth?

Maybe? They came really early so they genuinely could not have had much behind them. I mean they are probably head and shoulders better than an avatar read, and lord knows I make plenty of those...but he hasn't really provided any notable enhancements over time either.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:41 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:37 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:33 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:30 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:28 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:24 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:42 pm @Allison

Is straight to "how dare you"/OMGUS/AtE the usual way for v!Nanook to deal with suss? Because this looks a lot like how he pushed off suss from Nutella earlier.

I'm kinda torn because at the time Nutella was top wagon and here we are with Hally top wagon...and both look around and say "hey how about Nanook?" But it isn't like they are making a big reach to suss Nanook I don't think. His reaction isn't really jiving to me, but I don't know him.

@nutella is this as familiar as I'm thinking it looks?

Fwiw I'm always slightly offended/bewildered at being scumread

This is not a good combination with somewhat scummy thread presence. You give a smattering of very early (meaning of dubious quality) reads and then mostly peace out until someone calls you on having done very little as if they are wrong? What's the thinking behind this?

Are Nanook's reads more dubious in quality than other reads put forth?

Maybe? They came really early so they genuinely could not have had much behind them. I mean they are probably head and shoulders better than an avatar read, and lord knows I make plenty of those...but he hasn't really provided any notable enhancements over time either.

Also, I appreciate the signature read earlier, thanks. I have had sigs turned off for quite some time now, to make mobile Mafia easier, and I haven't looked at my own sig in a while. I love that sig, that pic is me in the Hard Rock Café in Las Vegas, on my honeymoon, and I think it's pretty cool.

Is this by chance the shading against a town read that you mentioned that you do as a wolf?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:40 amI'm gonna start using smileys now or trying to cause I forget sometimes that people who aren't used to me and nutella can't usually recognize when I'm not being entirely serious

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:49 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:48 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:40 amI'm gonna start using smileys now or trying to cause I forget sometimes that people who aren't used to me and nutella can't usually recognize when I'm not being entirely serious

I'm gonna start using smileys now, or trying to, cause I forget sometimes that people who aren't used to [me and nutella] can't usually recognize when I'm not being entirely serious

I'm gonna start using smileys now, or trying to, cause I forget sometimes that people who aren't used to me, and nutella can't usually recognize when I'm not being entirely serious

I don't totally know how to read this sentence.

People that can’t recognize my sarcasm:

[people who aren’t used to me] [nutella]

That clear things up?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:48 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:44 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:41 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:37 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:33 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:30 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:28 am

This is not a good combination with somewhat scummy thread presence. You give a smattering of very early (meaning of dubious quality) reads and then mostly peace out until someone calls you on having done very little as if they are wrong? What's the thinking behind this?

Are Nanook's reads more dubious in quality than other reads put forth?

Maybe? They came really early so they genuinely could not have had much behind them. I mean they are probably head and shoulders better than an avatar read, and lord knows I make plenty of those...but he hasn't really provided any notable enhancements over time either.

Also, I appreciate the signature read earlier, thanks. I have had sigs turned off for quite some time now, to make mobile Mafia easier, and I haven't looked at my own sig in a while. I love that sig, that pic is me in the Hard Rock Café in Las Vegas, on my honeymoon, and I think it's pretty cool.

Is this by chance the shading against a town read that you mentioned that you do as a wolf?

I didn't think it was shading. I was thanking you for mentioning my sig because it reminded me of its existence and gave me good memories. I don't take the avatar/sig reads seriously because I don't think that you do either.

Just checking because I do have a strong town read on you (not the avatar and sig reads) that I am fielding some questions on and thought maybe you had some doubts about my sincerity. Or at least whether I had any grounds to be the one questioning Nanook's snap reads.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:54 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:36 am [VOTE: tim] aubergine

Decided Tim a better vote than Amy for me at this stage. Have been skimming and slacking and need to re-read it all again, but will probably wait for a flip first. Am comfortable with being TR enough to wait for the flip before I put work in to re-read.

Why Tim over Amy? In the end, I can't justify voting Amy for making one meme copy pasta I didn't like.

Tim has what I consider to be an entirely manufactured read on LC. Not a strong case either but better than the one I held on Amy.

I didn't really scumread scirrius and I def don't scum read Hally. I don't understand these perspective.

I also don't understand why so many people scumread Nutella. I have one game with Nutella but that was a weird one since Nutella was mid confirmed town the entire game and didn't need to project town or worry about being scum read at any point in the game.

Good Morning!

Since you think my read on LC is "manufactured" would you do me the favor of pointing out the components? Maybe identify the pieces you disagree actually happened? I'm just checking to see if you even bothered to consider where the read comes from.

I'm also really intrigued with this idea that you are "townread enough that you don't have to put in any more work today." Sounds like a "mission accomplished" statement from a very wolfy mindset. I mean, I'm pretty well townread, and I'm putting in work. I was pretty well townread when I made the read that has you so excited. Why would I have "manufactured" that read if I was a wolf, pray tell? At that point I had an easy slide to EoD, but instead you think I "manufactured" a read that would obviously be controversial. Why as a wolf would I be still putting in that kind of work when I was widely townread.

Here's my thinking...town doesn't have a lolcatting, obvious wolf to chop here. So town people should absolutely NOT be thinking "oh, hey, my work here is done."

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:59 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:32 am Reading the last few pages led me to ISO Nanook and all I see is some early "reads" followed by a bunch of nothing until he started getting pressure, at which point there was finally another piece of game-relevant info. So [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

A) you’re not gonna kill me today

B) they’re not “reads” they’re Nanook Certified Locks

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:34 pm in some cultures "you aren't killing me today" is "secret code" for "I have a claim to make that will stop you." To me it is about the dumbest 'soft' there is, and I absolutely hate softs of every stripe. The wolves always see the soft, so the only thing accomplished by softing rather than just claiming is that some, most, or all of the town will be confused. The "you aren't killing me" soft is the worst because it does get treated by some players as if it were some sort of wink and nod secret that only "the elite" players who just never rand wolf think they know about.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:58 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:34 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:23 am

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:55 am Hally you've called a couple of things "not W/W" and:

1) Like you've pointed out it's a little too early in the game to be doing associatives like that.

2) I don't actually understand why they aren't W/W. Like it isn't obvious to me why the interactions you point out aren't within the scum range of the players involved to fake.

Can you please elaborate a bit more on those thoughts?

linki: Yes, that dynamic you're alluding to between MR, nanook and nutella. What is it about it that makes you think they can't be associated together? I don't get the sense that the scum ranges of any of those three players are particularly narrow, so it has to be something specific and strong that makes you think this.

double linki: Also what is with you being so quick to do associative stuff?

idk sometimes i do associatives it’s not really new for me

so like, i think radish/nanook are possible w/w because nanook kinda sandwiched radishes into his tr’s early even though i don’t think radishes really belongs there. wolves tend to like to lump teammates in with villagers

nanook/nut not aligned because i dont see any reason why nut would push on nanook here as w/w. could she? like yea it’s not out of her wolf range but like... why would she when nanook is not under threat

radishes/nut not aligned because i don’t think w!radishes would defend w!nut like that when she was getting wagoned. it had an air of tmi to it, like he knew nut was a villager and wanted to keep his hands clean of anything having to do with the push/maybe even pocket nut

that’s the associatives i have in that group of three. obviously not set in stone but yea

These associatives require a lot of assumptions and I'm mostly inclined to think you made them up honestly. Like you have a set of assumptions about how mafia would play, like never bus D1, and I'm left with more questions than answers. Why is someone who townreads someone who doesn't deserve it wolves with them, and not wolf whiteknighting/TMI-ing a town, or just town with a weird read? Why can't wolves use D1 to distance knowing full well that their interactions will be referred to later down the road?

It's not even necessarily a question of "Hally is wrong", it's like you're concocting a narrative of the spot and trying to push it on us in lieu of doing actual investigative work, which is why I was kinda skeeved out by your random associative analysis that didn't seem to lead anywhere and felt extremely premature.

nutella: Just when you're trending up on my radar, I'm trending down on yours. :P

i’m not married to any of this analysis since we don’t even have flips yet but i believe the assumptions i’m making are more often true than not. i don’t hard align nanook/radishes but i think it’s possible. i would say i’m much more confident in nut/radishes and nut/nanook not being aligned then radishes/nanook being aligned

like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ idk what to tell you. sometimes i have thoughts based on assumptions that may not be correct or fully formed. it’s the nature of making reads in a game in which i know nothing

i’m honestly not sure why you have a problem with this. i think you’re just calling it fake because you’re either already tunneled on sc being a wolf and don’t wanna give me a chance or a wolf who doesn’t wanna let this mislim slip away because you can see i’m already working my way out of the hole

it’s fine though, we tend to have different approaches and ways of thinking about interactions so it could just be that

I heavily vibed with the bolded take on Alison's treatment of Hally's slot. It should be a good thing that Hally came in and towned it up to pull their slot up out of a tight spot. Alison looks like she doesn't want this to happen.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:08 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:34 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:13 pm yes u did call him mafia wtf tim lol

radish, i think nanook's soft was "let me live for a couple of days" or something of the sort

i mean he was town regardless, stop bothering him lol

also i think radish is town for making post 778 in the public thread and not in wolf chat

tim, i think u are pushing 2 town. nanook and proto. i might be wrong on my reads in which case i apologize, but i also might be wrong on my reads in the sense that i might have wrongly townread u

I push on mafia looking posts and events. Most of those are gonna come from town. That's the nature of day one. I'm not trying to kill Proto. I'm not really trying to kill Nanook even though I put a vote on him. This is all just stirring the day one pot and looking at what is floating around.

I am a solver sometimes, but never an instant solver. I actually count more on stronger readers than myself to analyze all this stuff. I just man the oar and keep the pot stirred, mostly.

No need to apologize for making reads. If they are wrong they are wrong, but no one bats a thousand...even if Nanook is claiming that he does.

@Master Radishes in some cultures "you aren't killing me today" is "secret code" for "I have a claim to make that will stop you." To me it is about the dumbest 'soft' there is, and I absolutely hate softs of every stripe. The wolves always see the soft, so the only thing accomplished by softing rather than just claiming is that some, most, or all of the town will be confused. The "you aren't killing me" soft is the worst because it does get treated by some players as if it were some sort of wink and nod secret that only "the elite" players who just never rand wolf think they know about.

@Benson I acknowledge your point and no I am no more interested in chopping him than I was in chopping Amy, and do not really expect that it will be happening.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I apologize for failing to treat you with the assumed respect that you think you have earned in previous play. I am just a rube from the hinterlands and unaware of the history and traditions of your little pond here. I have however played with Visorslash, Amrock, Pizza, Zack, and a fair number of other players of substantial reputation and have been insufficiently respectful towards all of them as well, so you are in good company.

I don’t think that was called for, I don’t remember saying “you should treat me with respect cause I’m a Very Important Player” or whatever. Certainly wasn’t my intent to give that impression anyways. Idk why this, like, condescending while at the same time painting me as condescending tone is called for, tbh?

Condescension² turnaround! Masterful!

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:12 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:07 pm ive never gotten the argument that scattered wagons are inherently harder to catch scum with than consolidated wagons tbqh

Well, really I'm just trying to stir things up because MOVEMENT is what really makes for reads. If there had been like consolidated wagons already I would have made a different movement inducing speech. Thanks for blowing the gig Rabbit.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:30 pm Well like I said it's not a "never ever rescind" townclear, it's "I'm never voting for these people today and probably not in the near future"
I really don't think Hally's progression was faked though. Tim maybe the slightly weaker clear for that.

I went back and forth on Scirrus a bit. I didn't like his RP entrance, but I started liking his catchup posts and felt he was responding to various things with a genuine mindset, and then I made the comparison to the lion king game and went back to feeling less good about him.

Interestingly, Dizzy had a scumread of scirrus, but hasn't acknowledged hally since the sub. I find myself kind of trapped in a loop where I've decided I'm trusting hally, so I have to trust their godread on dizzy, but if dizzy still scumreads hally I have to listen to that as well and worry if hally was just trying to pocket dizzy....

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:09 pm pond to a little quote button pops up that will only quote that seg

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:11 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:09 pm What's a godread? A read directly from God? Why do you have to trust the read of someone you profess to trust?

Because Hally has extremely strong meta on Dizzy and last time I didn't trust their townread of dizzy it went poorly.

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:33 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:30 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:17 pm Anyway, thanks tutuu and Tim. Softs aren’t my thing; unless someone says like ‘I’m gonna shoot you in the face tonight’ I probably won’t notice it.

I'm gonna shoot you in the face tonight for disrespecting my wolf game.


Also, I'm probably not putting a high priority on protecting softs in a game that's been described as "light role madness".

Conflicted in this post from Benson. Hi Benson btw never played with you. Cool dolphin. Want to townread you slightly just for that. #jokingnotjoking.

So the first bit is like setting himself up to claim frame if MR dies and then wifom defence. I don't like it. Not calling them scummy but I don't like it.

Second bit re role madness, kind of agree but how many roles do people expect in a role madness closed setup? I guess this could be NAI but I had the same thought re "I don't really care that you sorted in a role madness game" so slightly townread the post.

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:41 pm Viable wagons that I see for tonight:

Hally (it's still viable if tutuu, Alison, and me (to a degree) are suspecting that slot)
MR
Amy
Kza
Colin/Bob I don't fucking care

In don't see anything outside this happening.

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:44 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:33 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:30 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:17 pm Anyway, thanks tutuu and Tim. Softs aren’t my thing; unless someone says like ‘I’m gonna shoot you in the face tonight’ I probably won’t notice it.

I'm gonna shoot you in the face tonight for disrespecting my wolf game.


Also, I'm probably not putting a high priority on protecting softs in a game that's been described as "light role madness".

Conflicted in this post from Benson. Hi Benson btw never played with you. Cool dolphin. Want to townread you slightly just for that. #jokingnotjoking.

So the first bit is like setting himself up to claim frame if MR dies and then wifom defence. I don't like it. Not calling them scummy but I don't like it.

Second bit re role madness, kind of agree but how many roles do people expect in a role madness closed setup? I guess this could be NAI but I had the same thought re "I don't really care that you sorted in a role madness game" so slightly townread the post.

I don't like this post, and not just because you called his beluga a dolphin. Although a feel the same way from an 'avatar read' standpoint - how can you be mad at a whale that cute?

The waffly second line bugs me as a level 1 kind of thought that might be more likely to occur to a wolf who is going to have to think about their kill tonight.

I expect everyone to have some sort of role in a role madness closed setup. This part is waffly (waffley?) as well.

The whole post, in a nutshell: Townread (maybe not really) for NAI element. Scumread (actually not but watch out mister) on joke post. Townread (maybe NAI though) on half-mechanical subject.

All in all, boo. I'd vote proto if that were a thing today.

47/60

Another interesting take. I feel that for me the initial post to me seems like a villager maybe trying to leave room to change reads later

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:51 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:49 pm There’s a significantly above rand chance KZA is mafia.

Sheep me for the glory.

@Hally this is the scumread I told you I’d have later btw

Come sheep it plz

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:50 pm appears to have zero interactions or mentions of Radish

@Long Con anything to say about this?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:03 pmi don’t think lc has really been towny and am not sure why he is being tr by some people. also doesn’t lc like to bus? if so i think he can easily be a bus vote on kza

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:50 pm appears to have zero interactions or mentions of Radish

@Long Con anything to say about this?

Not really. I haven't said anything about more players than just Radish. I like him as scum, I'd probably follow along with a vote on him. I liked your take above with the three faces, he gets what he asked for and then buzzes off anyway. I'm pretty easy to influence when multiple towny players are feeling sure about a player, like Radish. I'm less convinced about bob; he's appeared on quite a few scum team lists, but he feels more like the fourth player in the salad than the guy with strong cases against him,

Don't read too deeply into the "script" thing. I was just in a funny mood, it's not intended totally seriously. More like... a half-tongue-in-cheek parody of how I saw the reception of Hally's entrance, and hole-emancipation.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:03 pmi don’t think lc has really been towny and am not sure why he is being tr by some people. also doesn’t lc like to bus? if so i think he can easily be a bus vote on kza

Oh, yes. I do love to bus, and I like to get in there early if possible. If you want to read this as a bus, it is exactly in line with my wolf game. I'm not a wolf this time though, I voted KZA because Nanook has something going on and I decided to trust that he knew something.

I don't want to overstep, but possibly a doctor should protect Nanook tonight? I don't think that KZA had posted enough for Nanook to nail him so confidently without something going on, so keeping Nanook around is probably in our best interest.

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I might also bus as evil but not this time.

Is there somewhere to look at ideas of roles? I also don't really understand what a doctor would do if we have one. I guess sites differences are confusing

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:17 pm “I like him as scum, I'd probably follow along with a vote on him. I liked your take above with the three faces, he gets what he asked for and then buzzes off anyway. I'm pretty easy to influence when multiple towny players are feeling sure about a player, like Radish.”

this part in particular

since when does town!lc follow along with others? ime town!lc is a cowboy maverick who doesn’t give a single shit what other people are doing. he does what he wants and is not one to sheep

am i off in this assessment? @nutella @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

It's been "So divine" for many years now... my avatar used to be from the George Washington song.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:54 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:51 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:37 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:27 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:05 pm I cannot overstate how silly/suboptimal it is to play that way

Which way is that?

The Radishes is a lock wolf way?

Or the Radishes isn't just a read he's a Nanook Certified Lock town way?

I'm pretty sure at least one of those is sub optimal but can't decide which.

Maybe it's both?

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:30 pm I thought he was referencing how I described my way of approaching things.

More tim than you, but yeh

So you are advocating for complacency here? Are you that sure of your (second and conflicting with the first) "lock" read on Radishes?

Let’s put it this way, if there was a hammer this game id be advocating we use it quickly.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:08 pm listen up motherFUCKERS

i aint got no FUCKING time to WASTE okay

im the FUCKING geography COP

i CHECK someone's GEOGRAPHICAL locaton EVERY NIGHT

i ALSO have the MECH knowledge that ALL mafia have the SAME nationality / geographical LOCATION

i checked checked colonial BOB last NIGHT and he's from GREECE

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:11 pm I used my 1 shot doc on tutuu if we're all claiming everything

Hoping he was the MK?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:12 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:11 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:11 pm I used my 1 shot doc on tutuu if we're all claiming everything

Hoping he was the MK?

No, I was.

wdym?

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:13 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:12 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:11 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:11 pm I used my 1 shot doc on tutuu if we're all claiming everything

Hoping he was the MK?

No, I was.

wdym?

I mean they broke my vest.

I don't really see the wolves shooting you unless you hinted PR

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:16 pm hard claim town redirector

i redirected radishes to long con last night. radishes was mafia and i jacked his kill

GOTTEM

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:22 pm

Spoiler: show

still have tinfoil on iaafr lol

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:23 pm i love how i somehow redirected the maf kill to the one town with a vest

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:27 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:23 pm i love how i somehow redirected the maf kill to the one town with a vest

Town redirector sounds so OP. Like isn't that just a wolf role usually.
Not calling you a liar (yet), but that role is whack to give to the town.

So does this mean that MR could only have submitted the kill? Like he couldn't be a PR otherwise that would've been redirected in stead, yeah? Perplexing.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:28 pm I may be an idiot but I think I’m starting at LC

I could probably be convinced otherwise tbh

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:16 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:11 pm Guys, it's probably that the town has one post-count modifier and the wolves have the other. Two villager roles like that just again, seem to easy for us.

Except I'm not technically a post count modifier. I can build you a soapbox to modify your post count with a small chance it will break every day you use it...or I can build you a (pretty sketchy) bullet proof vest...or I can build you a very sketchy one shot security system to catch a photo of someone if they happen to be killing you in the night that has a very low chance of actually working.

I'm contemplating building a nuclear weapon but suspect TSP will not allow it to work.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:28 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:15 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:14 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:11 pm Guys, it's probably that the town has one post-count modifier and the wolves have the other. Two villager roles like that just again, seem to easy for us.

nah i think this is probably wrong. i don’t think wolves want iaafr to have more posts. it’s a pro town action imo

also town powers are so stacked that i legit don’t think any mafia has a role that’s as dinky as just... giving someone more posts

28/60

that could just be an addon to the power, or just one of the powers

like, the maf might have more than one powers

remember when KZA died it says "alexander the great died" like wtf was that. his stand??

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:16 pm DUDE its so funny i never thought about it KZA with the purple haze avi dying caused his stand Alexander the Great to die with him lmao

god this is really fucking funny and yes im wasting a post to say i appreciate a jojo reference


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Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:35 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:33 pm Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

Narrator: He was far from right.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:16 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:11 pm Guys, it's probably that the town has one post-count modifier and the wolves have the other. Two villager roles like that just again, seem to easy for us.

Except I'm not technically a post count modifier. I can build you a soapbox to modify your post count with a small chance it will break every day you use it...or I can build you a (pretty sketchy) bullet proof vest...or I can build you a very sketchy one shot security system to catch a photo of someone if they happen to be killing you in the night that has a very low chance of actually working.

I'm contemplating building a nuclear weapon but suspect TSP will not allow it to work.

Being a tracker does not prove someone has town!!

Alison and Colin can be easily have the powers they say despite there probably being a wolf within them.

That said, I did like the causal way Colin claimed when he absolutely did not need to help us believe hally's claim.