The Syndicate

Heyyyyy.... I'm not reading thirty pages.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:56 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:54 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:52 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:36 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Strangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.

Just as a contextless reaction, Colin's comment on Alison is suspicious.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:46 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:44 am Heyyyyy.... I'm not reading thirty pages.

sup LC!

you dont need to worry about it, some unknown ability made Sloonei publicly reveal your role and alignment itt. we gucci

Whaaaaaa? Well then, hello, fellow townsfolk!

Heeeeeeeeeyyyyy... you tricked me!

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:49 amdam

I'm vanilla anyway.

Actually, I'm not vanilla, my bad. I'm a bit drunk. I'll get on dat Jules and Nut thang.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:11 pm So my scumreads this game are gonna be LC...

Kinda getting boring.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:53 am Explain how you thought you were vanilla plz LC

Probably because my ability is very weak.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:57 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:53 am Explain how you thought you were vanilla plz LC

Probably because my ability is very weak.

So how does one mistake a weak ability for vanilla?

I dunno. Alcohol and weed? Best guess.

I looked at nutella's posts. She's fine to be yeeted.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:58 am Wait

Is LC actually scum

Yes, you should never stop tunneling me.

Lots of talkers, but it's my bedtime. Night!

I'll just vote nutella for now.

I looked at Colin's ISO, and I don't want to chop him at this time.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:50 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:42 pm sprityo do you genuinely believe you have the clout to convince people to exe tutuu despite half the game townshielding her or is this case entirely performative? Like you can see that there's 90 minutes to EoD and there's 10 votes on nutella right?

so is there any point to doing anything? i don't think anyone on her wagon is interested in moving

I guess my general point is that this entire push seems excessively performative and when you get down to it, it's just hiding on a vanity wagon tbh

I think his case on tutuu was towny. I like the idea of trying to get a second wagon going.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:30 pm what is everyones favorite radiohead album?

The Bends

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:51 pm reading sprityo town because you like the idea of getting a second wagon going is like praising an ice cube because you like the idea of ending global warming

Ok. I just see a like-minded player who's not satisfied with a slow roll over nutella.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:52 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:48 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:50 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:42 pm sprityo do you genuinely believe you have the clout to convince people to exe tutuu despite half the game townshielding her or is this case entirely performative? Like you can see that there's 90 minutes to EoD and there's 10 votes on nutella right?

so is there any point to doing anything? i don't think anyone on her wagon is interested in moving

I guess my general point is that this entire push seems excessively performative and when you get down to it, it's just hiding on a vanity wagon tbh

I think his case on tutuu was towny. I like the idea of trying to get a second wagon going.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:30 pm what is everyones favorite radiohead album?

The Bends

I've openly advocated for the idea of a counter-wagon. I think Sprit casing and pushing at an immovable object contributes to why we don't have one. "We need a counterwagon, case the most widely townread person and wonder why the towncore says no" isn't how to produce one.

I townread your advocacy.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:03 pm i’m still not feeling it with nut. something is still missing there for me and it just strikes me as off. i’m not really feeling inspired to move off

Same-same.

I want to go in the boat.

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine because his auto-suspicion of me was suspicious in its laziness and insincerity.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:18 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:17 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine because his auto-suspicion of me was suspicious in its laziness and insincerity.

It was literally an RNGed list my dude

Exactly.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:20 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:19 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:18 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:17 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine because his auto-suspicion of me was suspicious in its laziness and insincerity.

It was literally an RNGed list my dude

Exactly.

That isn’t auto-suspicion though like

You’re presenting this as if it’s just default sus of you and it isn’t

Did anyone SEE you RNG it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:19 pm I don't think she's fake. It's too random. Boats? C'mon. Also she'd come up with a fake claim that'd be more believable if she was fake.

Unless she needs to collect "identities" for a more nefarious reason, which would provide a framework to craft the fake role around.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:22 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:21 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:20 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:19 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:18 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:17 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine because his auto-suspicion of me was suspicious in its laziness and insincerity.

It was literally an RNGed list my dude

Exactly.

That isn’t auto-suspicion though like

You’re presenting this as if it’s just default sus of you and it isn’t

Did anyone SEE you RNG it?

I was waiting for this! Hold that thought

I'm already glad I asked!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:24 pm That didn’t work as expected wtf

I was underwhelmed.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:29 pm i propose a nanook counter wagon

I already proposed that.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:27 pm NANOOK U JUST DOXXED URSELF LMAO thanks for ur IP buddy

All according to plan...

My instincts tell me nutella's claim is a trap, so it's probably actually legit.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:37 pm My instincts tell me nutella's claim is a trap, so it's probably actually legit.

h o y a

wait is that an acronym or just a sound to make?

Ok [VOTE: Tim] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:39 pm Inb4 Nutella flips mafia/rogue with a soup kill

10 bucks on rogue with the Win-con of knowing everyone's role.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:40 pm Nah Nutella is mafia. That role is stupidly town and it'd be obvious but earlier she claimed to have a weak role. Her story isn't straight.

lc claimed the weak role

yeah that was me

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:41 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:40 pm Nah Nutella is mafia. That role is stupidly town and it'd be obvious but earlier she claimed to have a weak role. Her story isn't straight.

lc claimed the weak role

P SURE NUT SAID SHE DID TOO

why do u yell

he's so mean right?

You guys have been posting fast, I was catching up until p 59 when I saw the pages had increased from 62 to 65. I skipped ahead and apparently skipped some juicy claims.

Going to bed, haven't gotten to the gamechanger posts yet, but too tired. Take a break maybe and everyone go offline for a bunch of hours.

Hey, at this point, for this phase, I'm just going to probably sheep Mac or some other very townish player.

I missed the big reveals, but as far as I can tell, JPIC claimed cop with a green read on Mac... who else claimed, and is this related to Hally's insistence that three players reveal their roles? Like, she watched... Mac?

Another player targeted Mac with a post cap as well... but Hally doesn't know who it is? I'm still not quite there with the details, let alone analysis. Also, I'm going to a cottage and won't be online from 3pm EST until the following morning, around 10am.

So yeah, I'm going to sheep. I have to take my kids for haircuts now, I will get online between haircuts and cottage-leaving for a last hello.

I do appreciate that Mac put me on the trusted list after the nutella chop, although I don't really get why, since I went with voting for the other guy when nutella claimed, and everyone else stayed on her. But I'm sure you've got your hands full in the thread right now anyway.

[VOTE: tim and jpic] aubergine for now, because I feel like I have the most understanding of why those two are wagons. Why don't we believe JPIC's claim?

I had towny vibes from Herm earlier, and I don't see him being on the plate today in any event with all the goings-on.

Some quotes I grabbed earlier...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:47 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:46 pm i think jules’ reaction to nut when she said nut was probably going after her because she viewed jules as the weakest one on her wagon/easiest to push/least likely to fight back felt very unaligned with nut, almost like jules was taking it personally that nut considered her an easy target. i don’t think she has that reaction if nut is bussing

/interesting/

I like this read.

I think nut saw the easy target, Juliets is one of the two names Joseph gave me to look at when I first showed up, so I think nutella was pushing on her for that reason... in the hope that Joseph would veer that way instead.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm Tim, why did you say your song name to nutella? How could you trust someone who is a top wagon and tell your role name?

Yeah, that looks like a teammate trying to show everyone that it's ok to tell her the info.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:06 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:05 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:03 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm Poison you should out all information before EOD.

I generally believe that heavily townread people should be outing their information before the end of the day phase immediately after they acquire that information. I think scum is practically forced into shooting the consensus townreads for the conceivable future because there's so many of them. That means you're likely to die before you out your information if you sit on it. Plus we have some evidence that there's a roleblocker or doctor or something who can keep you safe.

I can out something but if we are going to let scummy people claim first, I think I 'd out my information after that.

Do you have information that will or will likely lead to the chop of a wolf or unfriendly neutral? If so, reveal it now. If not, reveal it never (or when whoever your info vindicates is on the chopping block or whatever).

Yes it can but it would need a claim to get the proper chop. But the info I got I wouldn't want to get towns to claim but we would need scums to claim. It's very complicated. I would shut up.

Who designed mechanics in mafia? Like who was the first person who added a cop and was like “this is a good idea”

Cop?

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:39 pm I had towny vibes from Herm earlier, and I don't see him being on the plate today in any event with all the goings-on.

Why do you seem so unknown to me. Hello. Don't remember talking to here.

I'm not as prolific as some of these stronger players. I'm laid-back generally. Prone to some in-thread outrage at times, but I haven't been kicked out yet!

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:54 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:44 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:39 pm I had towny vibes from Herm earlier, and I don't see him being on the plate today in any event with all the goings-on.

Why do you seem so unknown to me. Hello. Don't remember talking to here.

I'm not as prolific as some of these stronger players. I'm laid-back generally. Prone to some in-thread outrage at times, but I haven't been kicked out yet!

I see

YOU WHAT??!! :madmad: :madmad:

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:56 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:54 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:44 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:39 pm I had towny vibes from Herm earlier, and I don't see him being on the plate today in any event with all the goings-on.

Why do you seem so unknown to me. Hello. Don't remember talking to here.

I'm not as prolific as some of these stronger players. I'm laid-back generally. Prone to some in-thread outrage at times, but I haven't been kicked out yet!

I see

YOU WHAT??!! :madmad: :madmad:

Using my eyes and reading what you are saying.

PC lock town.

Anyways, I'm outtie. See you guys tomorrow!

How's it hangin' folks? Anything juicy in the last seven pages?

Wilgy, you'll have to let me know the secret of your popularity.

Lift

This is the place
Sit down, you're safe now
You've been stuck in a lift
We've been trying to reach you, Thom
This is the place
It won't hurt ever again
The smell of air conditioning
The fish are belly up
Empty all your pockets
Because it's time to come home
This is the place
Remember me?
I'm the face you always see
You've been stuck in a lift
In the belly of a whale
At the bottom of the ocean
The smell of air conditioning
The fish are belly up
Empty all your pockets
Because it's time to come home
The smell of air conditioning
The fish are belly up
Let it go
Today is the first day
Of the rest of your days
So lighten up, squirt

That really feels like it could be a jailkeeper role, to me.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:14 pm it makes sense alison was the kill target since there’s claimed protection on her but not on mac

I've been struggling with that, trying to reconcile a MAc kill attempt and survival with the claims around him. This makes more sense.

Did Alison claim to be roleblocked last night?

Sprityo isn't, iirc, in the mechanical analysis of claims. Can someone please remind me why he's a top suspect? I knew yesterday, but I partied pretty hard last night and I'm a little foggy today.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:49 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:43 pm Sprityo isn't, iirc, in the mechanical analysis of claims. Can someone please remind me why he's a top suspect? I knew yesterday, but I partied pretty hard last night and I'm a little foggy today.

The three people seen visiting Mac almost certainly includes a wolf.

Hally is VERY unlikely to be a wolf.
JPIC has claimed alignment cop and there are more town sided ways to determine whether he is a wolf than just turbo chopping.
Nanook has made a dubious but at least somewhat credible claim as to what he was doing there.

Sprityo has reacted...poorly...and was pretty highly suspect beforehand.

Right, thank you, and thank you dyachei as well for the answer.

Sprityo was seen targeting Mac, but hasn't claimed anything? Did he say that he can't claim, as some others have?

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:03 pm My crazy thought for the day: sprityo is "Karma Police", he said in his first post it's the only song by Radiohead he likes. The first chorus from the song:

This is what you get
This is what you get
This is what you get when you mess with us

It's an all right thought, but Karma Police is easily the one Radiohead song that a person might like. Biased opinion perhaps, due to the fact that I think it's a really cool and likable song. If he had told us a more obscure song, I'd buy into this idea more easily.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:39 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:19 pm Tim you need to understand that from my perspective the towncore is not only pure but has produced one pelt and had an attempt made on one of its members' lives already. I have very little doubt in the alignments of my towncore and so your constant attempts to undermine it (saying Mac had a shitty EoD and Hally could be the Mafia Watcher) is engendering no trust in you at all from me

Yeah, don't care.

If your town core "is pure" then the game is probably a win for me so whether you trust me or not I just don't GAF. What does bother me is that you make these claims about "the pelt is ours" and act like I didn't suspect Nutella as well, because that foesn't fit your pretty picture that people should appreciate the town core. That's gonna lead you to mischops. What bothers me even more is that Oddmerta, for example, has just done nothing in this game other than kiss town core ass, and if he's a wolf he's going the distance because you town core seem to like it so much. That could cost me a win here.

how do u guise not townread the emotion here?

obv i could be wrong, its not rare at all for me to be wrong but like

how is tim obvious scum?

even if he's scum i dont think he's obvious at all?

Because of everything they did to undermine the towncore, and their attempts to convince people to give nutella their song name, and generally doing nothing D1?

I agree with this, especially that gratuitous surrender of his supposed song name.