The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:49 pm If the game reaches a Final Three, they will all be sent to The Grasslands. All dead town players will vote for which one of these players shall carry out the final execution kill.

Nice twist!

Who has played this setup before?

Now I have to look up the biscuits thing.

Groovy?

Um, for the record, I know what groovy means. I was making fun of Sloonei using the word.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:30 pm Um, for the record, I know what groovy means. I was making fun of Sloonei using the word.
Don’t be a square.

Do you have reads or thoughts or anything yet?

Nope.

How do we keep track of phantom votes? Regular re-posting of the phantom tally?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:40 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:09 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:02 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:49 pm If the game reaches a Final Three, they will all be sent to The Grasslands. All dead town players will vote for which one of these players shall carry out the final execution kill.
Nice twist!
lolol
Going back to this, initial scum lean on LC. Not a big fan of using the host as an icebreaker to get into the thread, it also kind of feels off since the same text was present in the sign up thread for over a week now. The comment itself is also pretty bland, he isn't really adding anything to the mech convo.

As for the "lolol", that was basically my reaction to it 'cause I often scum read LC and it's a "why are you always so scummy LC" lol. He's more often than not scum, so no my fault

I didn't read the rules in the signup thread.

Me too.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:13 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:05 amMe too.
Give me something to chew on.

I don't really have anything to say at this point. Gimme a few days maybe.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:33 am Wait @JaggedJimmyJay uve never been scum?

When JJJ is scum, he plays so hard that the scum become the new town, and get their own town win.

I am not familiar with the prefix "unimanti".

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:13 pm i have the game poe’d down to jay/sloonei/lc/carrote. not even kidding. like i tr everyone else. and rn im looking at that and going “this cannot possibly be right” so maybe one of my tr’s is wrong but this is where i’m at

Sounds great.

I don't have any reads yet.

LONG CON!

No just kidding, but what are you talking about?

Okay I would like to partner with SPF

And we will take out Sloonei and Martin.

Carotte questioned the pairings, in lieu of giving an opinion.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:47 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)

tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN

Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
Why am I town? Why is Jay not?

It's in your role card, my dude.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:49 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:47 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)

tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN

Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
Why am I town? Why is Jay not?
It's in your role card, my dude.
Do you also think I’m town then?

So far so good?

tutuu lock town

Where can I see Phantom vote totals?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:26 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:24 pm Phantom vote on LC.
Why LC?
He’s actively not trying and I want him to explain his read on me.

I haven't caught you acting bad yet. So far, so good.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:52 pm Okay I would like to partner with SPF
okay, i'm in. can you help me townread you more? what's your plan for solving the game right now? do u have any concern about anyone here right now?

I plan to make judgment calls on peoples' posts, interactions, and reactions, and use those to guide my votes.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:16 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:52 pm Okay I would like to partner with SPF
okay, i'm in. can you help me townread you more? what's your plan for solving the game right now? do u have any concern about anyone here right now?
I plan to make judgment calls on peoples' posts, interactions, and reactions, and use those to guide my votes.
cool, who do u townread the most so far?

I think I townread tutuu the most.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:05 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:18 pm I am a little suspicious of Long Con since he doesn't have much to say but he still has a presence and makes jokes and short responses. Is that normal for him?
Yes and I've misexed him a couple of times because of it.

Well, let it be known that I'm definitely male.

Is there a stated punishment for going over limit?

Either way, Martin's warning looks townish to me. Scum would want a villager to screw up and get punished, I think.

Linki: That's rough. [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] what do you think of that?

Just kidding.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:04 pm Either way, Martin's warning looks townish to me. Scum would want a villager to screw up and get punished, I think.

Linki: That's rough. @JaggedJimmyJay what do you think of that?
anything else you can give us lc?

Sometimes less is more.

Hally, I get that you are really into this game, and have kind of checked out of the other game, but it's the opposite for me. I'm just not that into this game yet. Most of my reading has been skimmy. I'm not going to try to make up reads I don't have. Vote me if you like, I don't really care.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:22 pm is there anyone who wouldn’t want to save spf? we can still make that happen if it’s what the consensus wants. we just have to put everyone else at two votes instead of one

SPF is my battle partner, so I want to save her.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:01 pm Ok so it looks like we'll need someone to vote everyone except the person we want to get the gun so it doesn't just go to lowest poster

I can do that. Tell me exactly what do do please.

I don't think Hally did anything wrong, certainly not "causing chaos". I was surprised to look at the poll and suddenly see so many votes, but that's about it. It makes sense. I didn't like tutuu and Alison causing an uproar about it.

I support the SPF initiative. Should I put a vote on everyone but her? Or just Nanook?

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:29 pm the end vote count in the poll doesn’t matter. it’s just a mechanical formality to get the desired two people to the grasslands. however we make that happen at the end of the day is fine. we already have a record of where people stand from the phantom votes

I thought the poll was the only thing that matters at the end of the day.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:31 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:29 pm I don't think Hally did anything wrong, certainly not "causing chaos". I was surprised to look at the poll and suddenly see so many votes, but that's about it. It makes sense. I didn't like tutuu and Alison causing an uproar about it.

I support the SPF initiative. Should I put a vote on everyone but her? Or just Nanook?
Why do you support spf?

Some of it is the general osmosis of goodwill toward her, and some of it is that I chose her as a partner in that meaningless battle thingy.

I just voted everyone who still had 2 so SPF is more separated.

RIP town folk. Sorry I wasn't present in the night chat, I was hoping it would be quiet but it sounds like it wasn't.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.
Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.
Because he knew carotte's flip would cement him as the next priority suspect? I feel like that's pretty obvious

Gotcha.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:00 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.
Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.
I don't think activity/lack of activity in the nightchats is AI for most people since some people just want a break from playing during the night phase like they're used to.
Fwiw, nights are usually open on this site so most of us are accustomed to putting in some effort overnight, albeit a lot less. I just really think if Sloonei were town he'd have put in some effort to redeem himself and contribute to some of the solving/discussion in there

I would normally be more present at night, but I didn't like being in Quicktopic so I just took the night off instead.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:05 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:03 pm The tree house chat wasnt that toxic it was nanook bickering with nutella and me bickering with nutella and a bunch of reads here and there
well I can tell you that my own personal experience is that it was toxic and I was very unhappy and considered subbing out for like the first time in my life

Sounds like something I'm glad I missed.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.
Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.
Because he knew carotte's flip would cement him as the next priority suspect? I feel like that's pretty obvious

Why can't it be town-town, what is it about Sloonei-Carotte that one of them has to be a wolf?

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] What do you think of changing the thread title each phase for easier reference? As in, the title would now be something like Grasslands [Game Thread - Day 2].

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:48 pm Eh I’m not sure I can read tutu this game

I think it's going to be really hard to know, when she finally rands wolf, due to her having no wolf records on this site. I don't know what it looks like.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:48 pm Eh I’m not sure I can read tutu this game
I think it's going to be really hard to know, when she finally rands wolf, due to her having no wolf records on this site. I don't know what it looks like.
what should we do today, Mr. Con?

I'm going to do some ISO looking today, and I'll get back to you on that, if that's ok.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:48 pm Eh I’m not sure I can read tutu this game
I think it's going to be really hard to know, when she finally rands wolf, due to her having no wolf records on this site. I don't know what it looks like.
what should we do today, Mr. Con?
I'm going to do some ISO looking today, and I'll get back to you on that, if that's ok.
Which ISOs do you want to look at and why? if you're not already doing that.

nutella is the first name to come to mind. I've seen some people say she's towny, but I don't know why.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:06 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:11 pm Caveat that I’m not sure how many scum teams think this way but

It’s almost always better for scum in that situation to send town unless SPF is mafia. So very good chance that Hally and SPF are aligned, and because carot was shot and flipped green, very good chance they’re both town.

Caveat that I’m not sure how many teams think this way, so it’s not like...not 100% locked in. But high likelihood imo.
I don't understand why you think this way so I can't assume that the mafia team does too.
Carot is town and SPF is mafia -> better to send second mafia most of the time, makes sure that town dies

Carot is town and SPF is town -> better to send third town, makes sure that town dies

There’s obviously some amount of uncertainty in this cause it’s not immediately clear how many mafia will think about it this way, and there’s some room for playing suboptimally on purpose even if they do/did think about it this way

On Night 1 though? Wouldn't that out two mafia members immediately?

Maybe I misunderstand. I thought you were saying that, if the group sends a town and a mafia, then the mafia would choose to send another mafia so that they could subvert the democratic process and yeet a town member that was supposed to be safe.

I should do my homework then.

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