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- Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:23 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Hey guys! I'm here to play.
- Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:25 pm
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- Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:29 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
One scum down by day 3. Good job guys, this game is still win-able
- Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:34 pm
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- Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:43 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Night 2
Hi!
Btw, I'm looking at day 2 stuff leading up to sprityo's lynch, and your posts back and forth with Sloonei are cracking me up.
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- Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:54 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
...you got a reason to go with this?
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:23 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Here's my current take on things:
Epi looks town because of his rainbow post on day 2 with sprityo listed as "would lynch" before the wagon had even taken off. Also his interactions with the thread look like genuine town to me.
Nutella looks town from her posts so far, also Sprityo voted for nutella day 2. I don't really see a reason for him to vote for a teammate at that point. But she did stay on Sloonei until the very end even with him refusing to vote her to save himself. Seems a bit strange.
I'm liking Sloonei's content. He looks town for his banter with nutella and nova. But also wants Epi lynched. When Sprityo comes up he says, "sprityo is a town read, but not a strong one. if anyone has a compelling case on him, please share it." That looks like he's ready to bus a teammate, but is looking for a good enough reason first. Says "so we're not lynching Epi?" as the sprityo wagon pulls away. Then places a vote on Spacedaisy and asks, "anyone?" Then very reluctantly votes sprityo. It's almost too reluctant to be a convincing bus. Then his reaction post-lynch is embarrassment for not being totally on board. Sort of looks town for that. Also looks town for refusing to settle for a nutella lynch. But I flipped back and forth on Sloonei a lot while reading day 2.
Nova looks good for posting "I don't like sprit's vote on nutella." If Sprit and Nova were scum-mates, there would be no reason for him to point this out. But Nova also takes advantage of G-man's nutella vote to petition a last-minute switch to G-man. After Sprit flips scum, he also is very quick to point a finger at G-man as being "teammate compatible." Not a good look.
MafiaMenace thought lynching Sloonei was a good idea. But after sprityo becomes an option, Menace posts the two people he wants to lynch are nutella or Jay (one now confirmed town, and the other looks town to me). Also the way he was quick to get defensive with Epi makes him look suspicious to me.
G-man pops in near EOD with a "I want to lynch nutella." I see how this looks bad, but it's not completely condemning, especially if he wasn't around much. Actually Nova's quick reaction to G-man's vote looks worse.
I had difficulty reading reywaS behind all their Kanye memes and lyrics. They voted Sloonei and stayed there while Sprityo was lynced. Not a good look, but I also distrust people who seem to hide behind a post gimmick.
Epi looks town because of his rainbow post on day 2 with sprityo listed as "would lynch" before the wagon had even taken off. Also his interactions with the thread look like genuine town to me.
Nutella looks town from her posts so far, also Sprityo voted for nutella day 2. I don't really see a reason for him to vote for a teammate at that point. But she did stay on Sloonei until the very end even with him refusing to vote her to save himself. Seems a bit strange.
I'm liking Sloonei's content. He looks town for his banter with nutella and nova. But also wants Epi lynched. When Sprityo comes up he says, "sprityo is a town read, but not a strong one. if anyone has a compelling case on him, please share it." That looks like he's ready to bus a teammate, but is looking for a good enough reason first. Says "so we're not lynching Epi?" as the sprityo wagon pulls away. Then places a vote on Spacedaisy and asks, "anyone?" Then very reluctantly votes sprityo. It's almost too reluctant to be a convincing bus. Then his reaction post-lynch is embarrassment for not being totally on board. Sort of looks town for that. Also looks town for refusing to settle for a nutella lynch. But I flipped back and forth on Sloonei a lot while reading day 2.
Nova looks good for posting "I don't like sprit's vote on nutella." If Sprit and Nova were scum-mates, there would be no reason for him to point this out. But Nova also takes advantage of G-man's nutella vote to petition a last-minute switch to G-man. After Sprit flips scum, he also is very quick to point a finger at G-man as being "teammate compatible." Not a good look.
MafiaMenace thought lynching Sloonei was a good idea. But after sprityo becomes an option, Menace posts the two people he wants to lynch are nutella or Jay (one now confirmed town, and the other looks town to me). Also the way he was quick to get defensive with Epi makes him look suspicious to me.
G-man pops in near EOD with a "I want to lynch nutella." I see how this looks bad, but it's not completely condemning, especially if he wasn't around much. Actually Nova's quick reaction to G-man's vote looks worse.
I had difficulty reading reywaS behind all their Kanye memes and lyrics. They voted Sloonei and stayed there while Sprityo was lynced. Not a good look, but I also distrust people who seem to hide behind a post gimmick.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:25 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
[VOTE:
Nova] aubergine
Actually the way he and Menace are quick to vote G-man for his mis-vote yesterday makes them both look like opportunistic scum.
Actually the way he and Menace are quick to vote G-man for his mis-vote yesterday makes them both look like opportunistic scum.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:29 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Oh this post. Apparently it wasn't colored when you posted it, but whoever quoted it added their own thoughts I guess.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:32 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Scum are very keen to notice when someone does something that makes them look bad. In this case G-man coming in last second to vote nutella. It would make sense for scum to jump on a townie for doing this. I get that I may be completely mis-reading the situation and G-man could actually be bad, and you and nova are town heros for calling him out, but right now it looks suspicious.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:51 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Has anyone done an analysis on Sprityo's interactions? That might be helpful.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:57 am
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- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:02 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Night 2
Okay nova, I see where you're coming from. I didn't actually read this far last night. The lack of urgency is a problem. If G-man and sprityo are teammates, he probably didn't think sprityo would actually get lynched last-minute. We might also assume the other wagons were town for G-man not to care who got lynched.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:43 pm @Sloonei
I think it's a recurring feeling I've been having with G-Man this phase, and catching up. It started when I noticed him withholding his vote which contrasted with his play of producing isos and inviting discussions. It felt like he was holding on to it to see waiting for the game to unfold and wagons/suspicions grow bigger, rather than as a tool to prod and push the lynches he believes in.
Then towards EoD (even the second half of the phase), his game solving completely crumbled. He's present but there is nothing coming from him. Silent votes, cryptic posts. I didn't see any merits to his GTH exercise, and I still don't. It was specifically tailored to reywaS which defeat its purpose especially at a point where the game was stalled. It served more as an excuse for him to coast than anything else. I didn't get any sense of urgency from his EoD, which makes me believe that he didn't care who got lynched.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:06 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Night 2
^This is something to note. But Jay could have been killed for being wrong, so we would pursue the wrong people.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:17 pm I looked over the sprityo interactions. I don't feel like posting everything, but here's a road map:
Good looks: Sloonei, nutella, novaselinenever
Meh: Epignosis, MafiaMenace, reywaS, Spacedaisy
Icky: G-Man
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:08 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
switching to [VOTE:
G-man] aubergine because he does come out of this looking icky.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
So you're recommending everyone force "original" content from myself and each other, but you won't be able to contribute?G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:23 pm Let’s get this over with, then. With Luna replacing Spacedaisy, we no longer have to worry about mulling over the fate of an inactive. Grill her and don’t let her glom onto the opinions of others. Force original content from her (and everyone, really).
Barring anything compelling, I entered Day 2 pretty sure I would vote for either Nutella or Jay. With Jay NK’d and sprityo’s flip, I find myself less convinced of Nutella’s guilt. That leaves me in a common predicament- I tunneled on a few people and now they’re either dead and civ or I have reason to doubt my reads. This leaves me at square one in a game that’s now too post-heavy for me to re-read to recalibrate all my thoughts, making me both a poor hunter and, thereby, less useful to the civvie cause than ever.
Vote for me but don’t settle down. Don’t get lazy. Keep reading and forcing interaction. The more you guys get reads, theories, and thoughts from each other, the more likely you’ll be able to find the cracks in someone’s posts. Just don’t over-analyze and force people into tidy little boxes.
Mafia is an art, not a science. When you try to force art into becoming science, you get midichlorians and mislynches.
If there’s two baddies left, then it’s 6v2 right now, which will make tomorrow Lylo. If there’s just one baddie left, then there’s plenty of cushion to survive mislynching me.
I do like that you said, "vote for me but don't settle." I agree fully with that and will continue to look at other people today.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:58 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
[mention]reywaS[/mention] I would love to see opinions from you that aren't in the form of you reacting to other people's posts. Who would you be okay with lynching today, and who do you think should not be lynched?
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:59 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
[mention]G-Man[/mention] It's too early in the day for your train to be permanent. No need for the self pity vote. Who would you like to see lynched today?
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:37 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:54 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Does this mean you won't give input until I answer the question I just asked you?
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:00 am
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- Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:01 am
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- Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Did you not notice nova did that too?
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 am What's the consensus on the setup? I've been working with 2 remaining baddies, but I thinking the likelihood of it being just 1 is important.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:46 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
It's a little weird playing mafia with Kanye WestreywaS wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:04 amLunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 amDid you not notice nova did that too?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 am What's the consensus on the setup? I've been working with 2 remaining baddies, but I thinking the likelihood of it being just 1 is important.![]()
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- Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:17 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Thanks for another long post, Sloonei. I'll add answers in where you had questions.
okay
I appreciate that this post exists, but I have a few questions about the mindset reflected in these reads. Some seem like they could be dishonest to an extent.
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posting this so I don't lose it, but gtg.
I originally saw this post when I started my day 2 read-through. I started out with the mind-set, "knowing sprityo was mafia and lynched, who looks good and who looks bad." Disregarding Jay's opinion on Epi's post (which btw, I don't agree with), I saw that Epi listed Sprityo as someone he "Would Lynch". Which seems a bit unnecessary for him to do if they were teammates, because I don't think anyone had really looked that closely at sprityo yet, but I do recognize it could be early distancing.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm Looking at lunalee. Replacements always have the slight advantage, if and when they're scum, of being able to form genuine opinions before the enter the game. However, when Luna entered she appeared to do a big catch-up and posted her reads quickly after. It's not a bad look, though some points were a bit questionable:The "rainbow post" is a post by Jay used to accuse Epi. I don't disbelieve that the original post from Epi could have been a good look to Luna, but this seems like an odd mix up. Care to explain how that happened, Luna? And maybe explain how/why the post(s) in question made Epi look good?
You like being ambiguous?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pmI'm sure this has been pointed out, but nutella announced that she would not be around for the end of day. She didn't see any of the developments that lead to sprit's lynch.Nutella looks town from her posts so far, also Sprityo voted for nutella day 2. I don't really see a reason for him to vote for a teammate at that point. But she did stay on Sloonei until the very end even with him refusing to vote her to save himself. Seems a bit strange.
I like this. It seems to cover real ground as Luna struggles with her read on me.I'm liking Sloonei's content. He looks town for his banter with nutella and nova. But also wants Epi lynched. When Sprityo comes up he says, "sprityo is a town read, but not a strong one. if anyone has a compelling case on him, please share it." That looks like he's ready to bus a teammate, but is looking for a good enough reason first. Says "so we're not lynching Epi?" as the sprityo wagon pulls away. Then places a vote on Spacedaisy and asks, "anyone?" Then very reluctantly votes sprityo. It's almost too reluctant to be a convincing bus. Then his reaction post-lynch is embarrassment for not being totally on board. Sort of looks town for that. Also looks town for refusing to settle for a nutella lynch. But I flipped back and forth on Sloonei a lot while reading day 2.
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Actually Nova said this before you even asked him for an opinion on G-man. I have a mixed view on G-man, but the thing that rubbed me the wrong way here wasn't that nova thought G-man looked to be team mate compatible with sprit, but how quickly he brought it up post-lynch. I know as scum I'm hyper aware when town makes themselves look bad so I can set them up for a mislynch, and it looked like Nova could be doing just that.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pmCould you elaborate on why it's not a good look for nova to push G-man after sprit flips bad? I can get this criticism prior to the lynch, but afterwards it seems like totally fair game. Plus, I was directly asking him to share his thoughts on G-man.Nova looks good for posting "I don't like sprit's vote on nutella." If Sprit and Nova were scum-mates, there would be no reason for him to point this out. But Nova also takes advantage of G-man's nutella vote to petition a last-minute switch to G-man. After Sprit flips scum, he also is very quick to point a finger at G-man as being "teammate compatible." Not a good look.
so what I saw was the day 1 banter between epi and MM about why MM being away made him look scummy, and then later Epi calling him out for being in the thread for 7 minutes, and saying that half an hour wasn't enough time to do anything...Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pmWhy does the quick defensiveness make him look bad?MafiaMenace thought lynching Sloonei was a good idea. But after sprityo becomes an option, Menace posts the two people he wants to lynch are nutella or Jay (one now confirmed town, and the other looks town to me). Also the way he was quick to get defensive with Epi makes him look suspicious to me.
I'm sure there have been updates on this read because I remember you talking about G-man a bit and then voting him.G-man pops in near EOD with a "I want to lynch nutella." I see how this looks bad, but it's not completely condemning, especially if he wasn't around much. Actually Nova's quick reaction to G-man's vote looks worse.
I impulsively leap to defend people who post with gimmicks because they're willfully making themselves an easy target to criticism. Note that that's happening here a little. For what it's worth, I thought reywas looked genuine in his drunken relapse from the shtick last night.I had difficulty reading reywaS behind all their Kanye memes and lyrics. They voted Sloonei and stayed there while Sprityo was lynced. Not a good look, but I also distrust people who seem to hide behind a post gimmick.
I appreciate that this post exists, but I have a few questions about the mindset reflected in these reads. Some seem like they could be dishonest to an extent.
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posting this so I don't lose it, but gtg.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:26 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Corrected post from before:
Thanks for another long post, Sloonei. I'll add answers in where you had questions.
okay
Thanks for another long post, Sloonei. I'll add answers in where you had questions.
I originally saw this post when I started my day 2 read-through. I started out with the mind-set, "knowing sprityo was mafia and lynched, who looks good and who looks bad." Disregarding Jay's opinion on Epi's post (which btw, I don't agree with), I saw that Epi listed Sprityo as someone he "Would Lynch". Which seems a bit unnecessary for him to do if they were teammates, because I don't think anyone had really looked that closely at sprityo yet, but I do recognize it could be early distancing.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm Looking at lunalee. Replacements always have the slight advantage, if and when they're scum, of being able to form genuine opinions before the enter the game. However, when Luna entered she appeared to do a big catch-up and posted her reads quickly after. It's not a bad look, though some points were a bit questionable:The "rainbow post" is a post by Jay used to accuse Epi. I don't disbelieve that the original post from Epi could have been a good look to Luna, but this seems like an odd mix up. Care to explain how that happened, Luna? And maybe explain how/why the post(s) in question made Epi look good?
You like being ambiguous?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pmI'm sure this has been pointed out, but nutella announced that she would not be around for the end of day. She didn't see any of the developments that lead to sprit's lynch.Nutella looks town from her posts so far, also Sprityo voted for nutella day 2. I don't really see a reason for him to vote for a teammate at that point. But she did stay on Sloonei until the very end even with him refusing to vote her to save himself. Seems a bit strange.
I like this. It seems to cover real ground as Luna struggles with her read on me.I'm liking Sloonei's content. He looks town for his banter with nutella and nova. But also wants Epi lynched. When Sprityo comes up he says, "sprityo is a town read, but not a strong one. if anyone has a compelling case on him, please share it." That looks like he's ready to bus a teammate, but is looking for a good enough reason first. Says "so we're not lynching Epi?" as the sprityo wagon pulls away. Then places a vote on Spacedaisy and asks, "anyone?" Then very reluctantly votes sprityo. It's almost too reluctant to be a convincing bus. Then his reaction post-lynch is embarrassment for not being totally on board. Sort of looks town for that. Also looks town for refusing to settle for a nutella lynch. But I flipped back and forth on Sloonei a lot while reading day 2.
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Actually Nova said this before you even asked him for an opinion on G-man. I have a mixed view on G-man, but the thing that rubbed me the wrong way here wasn't that nova thought G-man looked to be team mate compatible with sprit, but how quickly he brought it up post-lynch. I know as scum I'm hyper aware when town makes themselves look bad so I can set them up for a mislynch, and it looked like Nova could be doing just that.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pmCould you elaborate on why it's not a good look for nova to push G-man after sprit flips bad? I can get this criticism prior to the lynch, but afterwards it seems like totally fair game. Plus, I was directly asking him to share his thoughts on G-man.Nova looks good for posting "I don't like sprit's vote on nutella." If Sprit and Nova were scum-mates, there would be no reason for him to point this out. But Nova also takes advantage of G-man's nutella vote to petition a last-minute switch to G-man. After Sprit flips scum, he also is very quick to point a finger at G-man as being "teammate compatible." Not a good look.
so what I saw was the day 1 banter between epi and MM about why MM being away made him look scummy, and then later Epi calling him out for being in the thread for 7 minutes, and saying that half an hour wasn't enough time to do anything. I suppose MM's reaction would be normal for scum or town, but it did look like he was floundering a bit, and I thought Epi had fair points.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pmWhy does the quick defensiveness make him look bad?MafiaMenace thought lynching Sloonei was a good idea. But after sprityo becomes an option, Menace posts the two people he wants to lynch are nutella or Jay (one now confirmed town, and the other looks town to me). Also the way he was quick to get defensive with Epi makes him look suspicious to me.
I agree he looked genuine last night. And I realize that people use post gimmicks to spice up their game, and since this is literally vanilla mafia, reywaS probably saw this as a good time to do that. That said, I still don't really love it, but I can deal.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pmI'm sure there have been updates on this read because I remember you talking about G-man a bit and then voting him.G-man pops in near EOD with a "I want to lynch nutella." I see how this looks bad, but it's not completely condemning, especially if he wasn't around much. Actually Nova's quick reaction to G-man's vote looks worse.
I impulsively leap to defend people who post with gimmicks because they're willfully making themselves an easy target to criticism. Note that that's happening here a little. For what it's worth, I thought reywas looked genuine in his drunken relapse from the shtick last night.I had difficulty reading reywaS behind all their Kanye memes and lyrics. They voted Sloonei and stayed there while Sprityo was lynced. Not a good look, but I also distrust people who seem to hide behind a post gimmick.
I'm not sure which reads came across as dishonest. But I do realize my opinions can sometimes be all over the place and conflict as I see more and think more about things.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:27 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
WaywardSon voted for the "non" option on day 1, correct? Is there ever a town motive for doing something like that?G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:55 pm Looking back through the first half of Day 2, I’m reaching the conclusion that either Sloonei or WaywardSon/Nova is bad. I’m just at the point where Nova steps in, so I have to see what comes from the new blood. Re-reading Wayward was giving me all kinds of weird vibes.
Sloonei seemed to harp on Wayward a bit through that point, agreeing and expounding on Jay’s assessment. I can see him bussing one teammate but not two quite like that. His sprityo focus D1 and his Wayward focus D2 share similarities. Maybe not structurally but in the way they make me feel while reading it.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:50 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
[mention]MafiaMenace[/mention] What made you switch your vote from G-man to Sloonei? I don't see where you said anything about it.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:49 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
oh, thanks.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:01 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Why do you say that?Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:51 pmTeammates confirmed.Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pmSo you're recommending everyone force "original" content from myself and each other, but you won't be able to contribute?G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:23 pm Let’s get this over with, then. With Luna replacing Spacedaisy, we no longer have to worry about mulling over the fate of an inactive. Grill her and don’t let her glom onto the opinions of others. Force original content from her (and everyone, really).
Barring anything compelling, I entered Day 2 pretty sure I would vote for either Nutella or Jay. With Jay NK’d and sprityo’s flip, I find myself less convinced of Nutella’s guilt. That leaves me in a common predicament- I tunneled on a few people and now they’re either dead and civ or I have reason to doubt my reads. This leaves me at square one in a game that’s now too post-heavy for me to re-read to recalibrate all my thoughts, making me both a poor hunter and, thereby, less useful to the civvie cause than ever.
Vote for me but don’t settle down. Don’t get lazy. Keep reading and forcing interaction. The more you guys get reads, theories, and thoughts from each other, the more likely you’ll be able to find the cracks in someone’s posts. Just don’t over-analyze and force people into tidy little boxes.
Mafia is an art, not a science. When you try to force art into becoming science, you get midichlorians and mislynches.
If there’s two baddies left, then it’s 6v2 right now, which will make tomorrow Lylo. If there’s just one baddie left, then there’s plenty of cushion to survive mislynching me.
I do like that you said, "vote for me but don't settle." I agree fully with that and will continue to look at other people today.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:54 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Hi I'm here.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:55 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
do you think G-man's vote is a last-ditch effort at WIFOM, or what?
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:03 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
reywas, because they are in G-man's "positive feelings" list despite not doing much
Nova, because they were both first to vote G-man today
nutella, because Sloonei gave nutella a very strong town read
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:12 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 2
[mention]Epignosis[/mention] , what did you see from Sloonei that made you like Menace? Cause I'm seeing this most recently:
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:06 amSprityo throws this comment away at the end of a post. If he is scum and he sincerely wants us to push this angle, he might give it more attention, maybe even devote an entire analytical post to it or something. But instead he just floats the idea with a shrug, not even naming the three people he’s vaguely accusing here (Spacddaisy/Lunalee, WaywardSon/nova, MafiaMenace). Sprit’s apparent lack of emphasis on this subject would cause me to speculate that maybe he’s telling the truth when he says one of them is bad.sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm ....I share I think it was your or Nutella that epi’s antagonizing weirds me out, but I can’t decide if it’s him being town or mafia
He would be my best lead outside of Jay who what appears from our angle to change people’s alignments at a whim (but he says he’s actually hunting)
Then of course we have everyone who isn’t participating. I’m sure there’s one person who didn’t vote yesterday that is scum
MafiaMenace is one of them. I feel mildly good about nova. I have no clearly defined read on luna. She should give us reads and get attention.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:16 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
I tried not to over-think it.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:15 pmDoesn't this seem too easy lol ?
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:18 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
No, you're doing it wrong. You can't have the same person for two.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:14 pmLuna. Some soft and indirect defense of G-man in her push against me. Twisting my suspicions and painting some points as optimistic. Quick to jump on MM as well. There was that Sprityo's post as well about a baddie amongst non-voter that G-Man hijacked and they had a weird interaction. Seemed really team-matey.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:56 pm That bit of reading didn't do much for me, so I want to propose something else:
Assuming three mafia and G-Man is bad, who is his teammate and why?
Assuming three mafia and MafiaMenace is bad, who is his teammate and why?
Assuming three mafia and Sloonei is bad, who is his teammate and why?
Sloonei maybe![]()
Me, lol. j/k. I'm blanking on this one for now. Gotta have to re-read some stuff
Hmm Luna as well I think. I got pinged by his comments about Space Daisy. Felt like he knew something we didn't, and how he implied that we won't be able to solve the game without dealing with her. His dealings with Luna are also noteworthy, especially how he keeps mentioning her entrance and how he's neutral on it. Feels unnatural
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:29 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
you had a good opinion of him on day one when he didn't vote too?
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:33 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Civ or scum, G-man looks to have given up. It sort of feels like a let-down to lynch someone who is voting for themselves and not even around posting.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:36 pm
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- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:38 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
What about reywaS?
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:51 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Idk, I'm feeling worse about G-man. Like there isn't town motivation to self-vote. Ever. It's more of a "lynch me, I dare you" thing that scum do
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:52 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
what? That doesn't make much sense to me. If Epi were teamed with menace, why not just let G-man get lynched?
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:55 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
Eh, not sure I agree, but I get what you mean.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:53 pmHe is letting G-man get lynched. He is making it look like he is giving G a chance to come back but in reality he is not expecting him to because there are like ten minutes left and he figures it is safer just to throw a vote on his teammate.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
well, you see, he has to throw his teammate under the bus
linki: nvm?
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:13 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Night 3
Well crap
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:55 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
You do realize this was a quick read exercise. You spent more time critiquing my post than I spent making it.MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:15 amthis is the stupidest shit ive seen
holy fuck
im going to actually defend everyone here in the post rather than myself cus its all dumb asf
gmans town obv but im still going to rip this apart
"not doing much" doesnt mean someone is instantaneously scumread
g-man provided a perfectly sound reason for townreading reywasnow for me and novaSpoiler: show
for the last 2 mafia to coordinate their votes to place it on town early in the day is absolutely fucking retarded
just because me and nova were the first votes on gman doesnt mean we are both scumbuddies here
now for sloonei and nutella
sloonei has every right to townread nutella
after the flip of spirit, if you dont townread them at this point then wtf r u doing
also if a mafia member has a top townread
that doesnt immediately make the top townread mafia
thats stupid
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:15 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 3
ThanksMafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:58 amyesSpoiler: show
also sorry for getting heated, i realise this community is full of a lot more peaceful players than most sites do
especially my home site
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- Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 pm
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Night 3
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:08 pm luna:luna im curious on your entire readslistSpoiler: show
can you share it?
Sloonei
MafiaMenace
reywaS
Nova
Nutella
Epignosis
Here's what I'm thinking right now.
Sloonei has looked town from the beginning. He's been doing all the heaving lifting for town with his sprityo interactions posts, and I don't see scum doing that really.
MafiaMenace is looking more town to me because of his efforts in the thread. He seems genuinely concerned about lylo, and nailing down the last scum.
I still don't have a good feeling on reywaS, since it's hard for me to get a good read on them, but Sloonei seems to think they are town despite the posting gimmick, and I'm inclined to trust him on that.
I'm torn on Nova. I've been gut reading them as scum, but then it seems like they are making an actual effort to help town. I really don't know where to put him.
Nutella has been agreeing with my opinions and hasn't suspected me. Town nutella usually tries to get me lynched.
Epi has swung from town to scum in my opinion because of the day 3 lynch. He refused to jump on the G-man wagon, (perhaps because he knew G-man was town and didn't want to be on it) but he then voted MM to just be off G-man. He didn't try to push anyone else. I would expect town Epi to have more of a fit close to EOD if he doesn't agree with the lynch options.
- Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:03 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 4
no-lynch is the safer option though. I'm not confident about who to lynch.MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:22 pm after a nolynch mafia will probably go for a vastly townread players
we have this game pretty locked down
so we still shouldnt nolynch
- Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:12 am
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Re: Vanilla Mafia - Day 4
I trust and doubt everyone at different times when I'm town because I don't know who is good. If you decide to push for my lynch then we will lose this.