The Syndicate

Let's lynch Wilgy

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:40 pm no, Tranq.

nub

No, Wilgy.

Heck now I want to watch Buffy.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:57 pm WHAT. Illy is here???

Bad. Fake. Scum. Lynch it.

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:22 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:20 am I have never seen an episode of this show.

I know what FMJ is so I'm voting that.
You ever watched the vampire diaries?

You are maphier

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:16 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:13 amYou can fix that, you know.
it's 105 hours long. it would take 5 days to watch it all if I don't sleep. :0

Watch it at 3x speed then

Love me ... please

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:56 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:22 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:20 am I have never seen an episode of this show.

I know what FMJ is so I'm voting that.
You ever watched the vampire diaries?
You are maphier
I dindu nuffin

I like u

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:59 pm @MacDougall

Are you mafia?

No but you seem pretty scummy. Show me your civ badge.

I get votes for no reason these days. I'm getting used to it.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:08 pm Dr. Wilgy being a wild boy doesn't mean he should be removed from scrutiny. Wilgy is a player who um.... he's often inscrutable because of the way he plays and often ends up being taken out of or put into the pool of suspicion by process of elimination.

informing people of the usage of sodium nitrate out of the blue isn't necessarily an alignment indicator for him, but level of effort from him can be.

Hence why I always ask to lynch Wilgy.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.

If Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
If Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?
I don't know what that means...
Player Salad is a thing Jay says when players talk about or mention a bunch of players they might vote for or suspect all at once, I think the idea is that doing it allows a mafia voting flexibility later on.

So you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers? Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?

Timmer and LoRab are really raising my hackles with their votes.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:35 pm Juliets Wilgy comment was a bit odd?

linki: Why Mac

I don't like votes on day 1 of players who aren't here. There's nothing more annoying than coming back to find you're lynched already.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:37 pm Also I'm surprised juilets is voting for Jack, he's inactive now yes, but in general he's a strong townie. Lynching him for being inactive seems a tad preemptive.

Wilgy hasn't been as Wilgy like, but that's not a reason to vote for him.

linki: That also seems like a meh reason to vote for someone.
I don't have a strong enough suspicion to outweigh not playing and/or bad.

If Loop were playing, I'd feel differently.

IF they hadn't voted in the night vale pole, for a choice which is not likely civ and also not a likely random choice, I'd feel differently. Hence why them and not Jack (hasn't posted at all, but also hasn't acted at all). To know the game is happening and not posting reads bad to me.

And, again, I'll change my vote if reason. But, um, this is kind of a close game on my tv.

So say you get busy or whatever and can't post for a couple days, you're bad?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers?

I'm more interested in her response to your assertion. I didn't think it seemed important to validate your memory of things Jay says. Literally speaking her post seems like it might be categorized as player salad, do you think it's meaningful?

Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?
explain

What's to explain? I am speculating that you are teammates?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:02 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers?

I'm more interested in her response to your assertion. I didn't think it seemed important to validate your memory of things Jay says. Literally speaking her post seems like it might be categorized as player salad, do you think it's meaningful?

Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?
explain
What's to explain? I am speculating that you are teammates?
why would explaining a jayterm to Juliets that she didn't know the meaning of make us teammates?

It's moreso the lack of entertaining me and then answering her instead? You're either teammates or you hate me. Knowing that you love me, it's gotta be the former.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:59 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:35 pm Juliets Wilgy comment was a bit odd?

linki: Why Mac
I don't like votes on day 1 of players who aren't here. There's nothing more annoying than coming back to find you're lynched already.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:37 pm Also I'm surprised juilets is voting for Jack, he's inactive now yes, but in general he's a strong townie. Lynching him for being inactive seems a tad preemptive.

Wilgy hasn't been as Wilgy like, but that's not a reason to vote for him.

linki: That also seems like a meh reason to vote for someone.
I don't have a strong enough suspicion to outweigh not playing and/or bad.

If Loop were playing, I'd feel differently.

IF they hadn't voted in the night vale pole, for a choice which is not likely civ and also not a likely random choice, I'd feel differently. Hence why them and not Jack (hasn't posted at all, but also hasn't acted at all). To know the game is happening and not posting reads bad to me.

And, again, I'll change my vote if reason. But, um, this is kind of a close game on my tv.
So say you get busy or whatever and can't post for a couple days, you're bad?
If there hadn't been a vote, I'd agree with you.

I can think of a a thousand valid reasons for it. I think it's weak and you now deserve several of these.

Ok

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:10 pmIt's moreso the lack of entertaining me and then answering her instead? You're either teammates or you hate me. Knowing that you love me, it's gotta be the former.
well i obviously love you, but i didn't see your line of questioning as being something I could personally contribute to so i opted instead to wait and see how other people responded to it.

Acceptable

I need a trademark "Mac" emoji.

Perfect.

I'd like to bitch about the result but I didn't even realise the day was ending so ...

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:25 pm Ambray and speed I appreciate your explanations for why you didn't vote. I'd like to know from everyone who didn't vote the reasons why they didn't. Love the biscuits!

Day ended too fast.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:50 pm On another note, can someone explain to me why so many people are voting for Angelus? He's literally a member of the scum team in this game? Seems likely even more dangerous than the Dark Willow speculation imo.

Only one I recognised.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:24 pm Howdy y'all! What'd I miss?

Been busy in your scum cave I see.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:30 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:24 pm Howdy y'all! What'd I miss?
Been busy in your scum cave I see.
We've upgraded to a den, dude. Get with the times.

Fancy

I think it's fair to say that DFaraday and LoRab aren't teammates otherwise that gripe would have been made privately.

Okay so first thing that jumps out is that Spike killed someone successfully. That means he just killed a non human so we can narrow down who Marmot was that way.

Willow (or do witches count as humans?)
Oz
Any of the mafia
Spike
Sweet
The mayor (maybe)
Adam
Glory

Very high likelihood that Spike just managed to kill an anti-civ.

Riley Finn - As part as the Initiative, he is looking to catch all Demons. He is looking for Adam in particular. Riley will choose a player each night, and when he finds a vampire or demon, they will be blocked. If Riley chooses Adam, Adam will be killed.

Wow good shot...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:23 am Okay so first thing that jumps out is that Spike killed someone successfully. That means he just killed a non human so we can narrow down who Marmot was that way.

Willow (or do witches count as humans?)
Oz
Any of the mafia
Spike
Sweet
The mayor (maybe)
Adam
Glory

Very high likelihood that Spike just managed to kill an anti-civ.

I suppose it's fairly unlikely for Spike to kill himself though. And since it would appear that Riley was only able to kill Adam and did then that reduces the pool here a bit.

Did Jack even post? That itself could be a clue. iirc there are certain players who are more inclined to kill low posters. Any thoughts?

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:36 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:12 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:06 pm I don't think there was anything too suspicious of the Loop voters because there were valid reasons. Tbf, my vote probably would've ended there also.

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:08 pm I don't see anything wrong with the Loop voters, and probably would've switched mine aswell had i been around.
Methinks thou doth protest/mindmeld too much.

No, seriously, are you answering a question here? Because I don't see it being asked, and these posts sound more like excuses and justifications than observations or reads.
I didn't see a question asked. Just my thoughts on the lynch after reading the new posts.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:16 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:08 pm @ Hosts: Was the lynch a tie?
There may have been a tie. Not all factors that could affect the lynch outcome are necessarily public, so I can't answer that.
The story didn't make it sound like there was a tie. If i remember well, LC story posts usually mention this.

If there wasn't one, it could be because DrWilgy is Angelus and several of his votes got deflected.
Or because Darla is one of the Loop voters.
Or because Dawn Summers used a -1 or a +1
Or because of secrets.

Thoughts?

Possible explanation for why Glory killed Wilgy? Maybe Glory is playing pro-civ and took a shot at Angelus?

Glory

Glory is a goddess from an evil dimension. Attempts to detect Glory will result in a false and innocuous reading. Attempts to kill her at night will mostly fail - only the Slayer can kill her. Glory gets one kill every other night, and she must outlive everyone to win.

So Marmot not Glory.

That would leave

Willow (or do witches count as humans?)
Oz
Any of the mafia
Sweet
The mayor (maybe)

Excellent chance that Marmot was anti-town. Even Oz seems to have anti-town qualities tbh. Thanks Spike.

If that's the case then it's basically worst case scenario is he killed a civ that seems to have anti-town potential.

You're supposed to say rezz plz.

Oh ok I just quickly google searched and figured they were humans.

Ambray wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:55 pm So I just went back and isolated MacDougall's posts - was going back to read sig's actually, but thought I couldn't really remember anything of significance from MacDougall either.

quote=MacDougall post_id=404064 time=1517798113 user_id=441]
Timmer and LoRab are really raising my hackles with their votes.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:02 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers?

I'm more interested in her response to your assertion. I didn't think it seemed important to validate your memory of things Jay says. Literally speaking her post seems like it might be categorized as player salad, do you think it's meaningful?

Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?
explain
What's to explain? I am speculating that you are teammates?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:10 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:02 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers?

I'm more interested in her response to your assertion. I didn't think it seemed important to validate your memory of things Jay says. Literally speaking her post seems like it might be categorized as player salad, do you think it's meaningful?

Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?
explain
What's to explain? I am speculating that you are teammates?
why would explaining a jayterm to Juliets that she didn't know the meaning of make us teammates?
It's moreso the lack of entertaining me and then answering her instead? You're either teammates or you hate me. Knowing that you love me, it's gotta be the former.

For D1 that's a shit tonne of speculation about who could be teammates and I haven't even quoted it all.

I know you're busy MacDougall from what's been said in the other game, but you've not really furthered any of this in D2. Only discussed the night results and what this could mean in relation to the roles.

Any further thoughts from your D1 suspicions?
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Hey sorry have a lot of meetings today. I'm not really feeling too compelled by any of the arguments I just skimmed. I don't feel like anyone is particularly suspicious. I was mostly just taking the piss on day 1.

I knew I shouldn't have quoted that monstrosity of a post.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:45 pm OK I gotta go tutor a fourth grader I'll be back in about an hour and a half

Bullshit you're going to brutally murder and drink the blood of a fourth grader you mean!

I have an overwhelming desire to vote for speedchuck but I think it's because of Mortal Kombat

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:42 pm Sorry, I defiantly did not get drunk and spill shit all over my keyboard and fry anything.

A likely story.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:24 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:13 am Also while I like the linkback feature (makes it impossible for people to evade questions and pretend they never saw then, yes?) I kind of hate it since I edit ALOT so not 100% sure I am gonna use it.
lol, I like it. But you can easily say you never saw it.

SVS is bad TBH.

And Tranq.

SVS has since made a lot of posts. So how you feel about her now?

Someone tell me who to vote for.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah SVS it's true Speed never went after the Loop voters. He went after the people who missed the vote and then said they would have voted for Loop (or at least that was the case for Ambray... apparently Tranq voted but for rabbit and later said he would have switched to loop if he'd been around) but yeah to be fair you are kind of putting words in his mouth. I do find him suspicious for the other reasons you have pointed out though (his eagerness to jump on those players and his vote for juliets / general eagerness to find easy suspects)

How is it that you can feel like SVS is putting words in speedchuck's mouth but not be sceptical of her because of it? That seems like the kind of nugget one would require to formulate a read in a game of clandestine murder and betrayal such as this.

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:58 pm Someone tell me who to vote for.
Who are you skeptical about?

nutella but I tend to surface read her Mafia all the time and her effort posts seem civ. SVS pinged me at some point when I was skimming the thread but I can't figure out what it was. I either am having trouble comprehending but I don't see what is so scummy in speedchuck's posts. This looks like a very sincere bunch. I might need to do a fairly thorough read through again.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah SVS it's true Speed never went after the Loop voters. He went after the people who missed the vote and then said they would have voted for Loop (or at least that was the case for Ambray... apparently Tranq voted but for rabbit and later said he would have switched to loop if he'd been around) but yeah to be fair you are kind of putting words in his mouth. I do find him suspicious for the other reasons you have pointed out though (his eagerness to jump on those players and his vote for juliets / general eagerness to find easy suspects)
How is it that you can feel like SVS is putting words in speedchuck's mouth but not be sceptical of her because of it? That seems like the kind of nugget one would require to formulate a read in a game of clandestine murder and betrayal such as this.
wait what? I never said anything about my read on SVS.

That's the point. You say that she put words in speedchuck's mouth but I haven't seen an utterance of a negative read on her. That's the kind of thing that usually creates a ping and a mafia read for me. Misrepresenting people is how scum make cases.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:09 pm I'm done. I don't have time to defend against arguments that don't exist, and I apparently can't start up discussion toward lynching someone else without getting suspected.

I recognize Nutella came in and gave some reasons that I'm supposedly bad. The tone of the argument she gave has me waffling on my read of her, even if her arguments are full of it. I regret nothing that I have done in this game.
That's my meta. I never get suspected early in the game when I'm scum. Why? Because I know what I'm doing when scum. This is going to keep my meta rock solid, looks like.

SVS has left me no avenue for escape. There is probably scum on my train.

Good luck with the nightkills, because the only thing you're going to get with your lynches at this rate is shot in the foot, over and over again.

I leave with one concession, toward @nutella and @S~V~S. If you somehow back off and let me live this one night, I can townfirm myself to you without claiming.

Strong Townreads: Sig, Kylemii
Light townreads: Macdougall, Lorab, lapluie

Hmmm smells like a scummy gambit.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:10 pm @macdougall to be honest, I thought he was going to go for them before he went for the Loop voter defenders, but he was kind of headed off at the pass. Same with the Loop voter defenders. I worded it poorly, and I think both Chuck and Nutella knew what I meant. His very first post after the lynch, about how did Loop get islynched, felt like a gauntlet to me.

I'm sorry I don't follow. You thought he was going for who before? And what post did he make after the lynch are you referring to? I can't find one that fits... Are you talking about speedchuck or someone else?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:08 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah SVS it's true Speed never went after the Loop voters. He went after the people who missed the vote and then said they would have voted for Loop (or at least that was the case for Ambray... apparently Tranq voted but for rabbit and later said he would have switched to loop if he'd been around) but yeah to be fair you are kind of putting words in his mouth. I do find him suspicious for the other reasons you have pointed out though (his eagerness to jump on those players and his vote for juliets / general eagerness to find easy suspects)
How is it that you can feel like SVS is putting words in speedchuck's mouth but not be sceptical of her because of it? That seems like the kind of nugget one would require to formulate a read in a game of clandestine murder and betrayal such as this.
wait what? I never said anything about my read on SVS.
That's the point. You say that she put words in speedchuck's mouth but I haven't seen an utterance of a negative read on her. That's the kind of thing that usually creates a ping and a mafia read for me. Misrepresenting people is how scum make cases.
Oh, well other than that I've gotten a civ vibe from SVS. I think it is more likely she was either misremembering or wording things badly than deliberately putting words in his mouth, I just made this post to set the record straight.

Well you and I play the game very differently I guess. Something like that would make SVS my top scum read.

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