The Syndicate

Epi I am a civilian. Let's not fight in this game and instead just boss it together please?

Epi isn't town. Dang.

[VOTE: Sabie] aubergine

Let's get some obvscum out of the way.

Would also happily lynch sprityo.

LC, Epi, Creature, TSP and Sloonei town til proven otherwise.

I am ignoring cases, voting or trolling against me in this game. Deal with that as you please. Like I am not going to spend a second defending myself. I am only solving.

Has he even posted? I have no thoughts.

I'm glad my vote provoked some content Sabie.

However here's what I see in it.

Player salad. Hitler tell (mild accuse > play your own devil's advocate > outcome null). Interesting tell (mafia say interesting when they don't want to provoke). Forcing reads just to make the post look more exhaustive. Hell you even felt the need to point out three no shows which looked like an attempt to turn what was a rambling salad into a full game read.

Note to civs: If Sabie flips scum her refusal to offer a read on TSP because she has no meta stands in contrast to the fact that she made a non meta analysis of Creature/Epignosis. Very strong chances of TSP mafia if sabie mafia.

Also what's with picking on Glorfindel who is never Mafia. He subs out when he rolls mafia. It is known.

Anyone want to tell me why we shouldn't lynch Sabie today?

Sabie if you are a civilian I will find you. Just keep pushing past me and finding Mafia. Hot tip, I am obviously a civilian here.

Sabie I would appreciate if you tried a bit harder to read TSP. I can't accept that you can't offer thoughts on him given you've offered more on players who have provided less, even non meta reads.

What do you think is his motivation behind asking me about Jack?

Creature, LC and Glorfindel are civvies here in 850/1000 universes. Town core building underway.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:30 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:21 pm Thinking on this, I’m prompted to change my vote here. I think JackofHearts might really be a slightly better option than Sabie for now.

In my experience Goofy Jack = Town Jack. It wasn't my intention to suggest that he's a lynch priority today. My point on him is just that there's no reason goofy Jack needs to be town Jack, and that I would prefer to see more actual hunting out of him. But if we're looking at him to lynch today, I'm lukewarm on that idea at best.

but i also am struggling to come up with a viable option anyway. I've identified a handful of players I would not lynch, at least.

I agree with your assessment of Jack.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:32 pm Yawn

[VOTE: birthdaywithteeth] aubergine

This vote is offensive and scummy in light of how you dismissed the Sabie case.

On the weight of things Sabie is the best lynch here. I know that her being lynched early in many games sucks but most of the reactions here came from my case against her and every counterwagon is haphazard at best. Sabie flipping offers more to reflect on than others. I won't be moving my vote.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:43 pm

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:55 am Also I'm adding Creature into my civ reads for now too. Even with nothing to really go on, he's at least attempting to push discussion on Day 1 and get the ball rolling in some direction.

One of the players randomly townreading me

Getting freaked out for getting town read is so dumb.

Ugh this day never ends in a wolf lynch with so many people just being dipshits.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:48 pm Apparently Mac claims I ignored his case on sabie

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:58 pm Mac has gotten me mislynched day 1 before but he was civ just had the wrong idea about me.

Unfortunate coincidence

I didn't say you ignored it.

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Dismissed =/= ignored.

Creature criticising everyone while offering sweet fuck all aside from chaos. Such a great idea.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:48 pm Apparently Mac claims I ignored his case on sabie

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:58 pm Mac has gotten me mislynched day 1 before but he was civ just had the wrong idea about me.

Unfortunate coincidence

I didn't say you ignored it.

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If you were to move your vote off sabie, where would it go?

Self vote.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:43 pm

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:55 am Also I'm adding Creature into my civ reads for now too. Even with nothing to really go on, he's at least attempting to push discussion on Day 1 and get the ball rolling in some direction.

One of the players randomly townreading me

Getting freaked out for getting town read is so dumb.

idk what to seek for when player salad is considered an accurate tell.

Thanks for wrecking a day for your own ego supertown.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:53 pm Day 1 ended with three people tied for the lead, each with 2 whole votes. This is a landmark event.

It has happened before with even more votes.

Jack not voting here means Jack is never Mafia. Never.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:48 pm Apparently Mac claims I ignored his case on sabie

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:58 pm Mac has gotten me mislynched day 1 before but he was civ just had the wrong idea about me.

Unfortunate coincidence

I didn't say you ignored it.

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*dismissed

Two entirely different words with entirely different connotations given the context, the real one of which renders your obscene attempt to discredit me obsolete.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:56 pm tbh "dismissed" still makes sense

You decided to unravel the best and only case of the day because I was civ reading you and it wasn't "creative". Based on tangible evidence gained here you aren't allowed to criticise anyone ever again ok? Mr. "Wait how tf did the day end so quick?".

No more marching in to the thread with a thread chastising people. You're banned. Be a good civ and actually find Mafia.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:58 pm How did people split up so much?

Because you alone flipped the board upside down because it didn't entertain you.

Or you just tried to save Sabie. Take your pick.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:59 pm Also: I’m not currently in a position to figure out what has happened but you better bet I’m gonna sit down with a lot of paper tonight and map this out.

1. Sabie was the only case of substace
2. Epi pointed out she dies early a lot
3. A bunch of people pointed at others and said "maybe it's you!"
4. Two of those people didn't manage to self pres vote because they're civilians
5. Creature frogstomped into the thread complaining that it wasn't creative to lynch Sabie
6. Three mini wagons exist to save Sabie
7. Doesn't necessarily mean Sabie is Mafia but I'd be surprised if she wasn't after this

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:04 pm I think no one realised the deadline was ending.

I most certainly did.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:54 pm Jack not voting here means Jack is never Mafia. Never.

Disagree. Any person with 2 votes could have saved themself. No reason to make this claim without exonerating the others.

Meta. Wolfjack doesn't miss end of day.

Fucking hilarious how Sabie gets spared for being mislynch bait only for us to then lynch BWT.

Fucking what a shit lynch.

Creature yawned his vote onto BwT and then Sloonei spun a vote there. The end.

Heaps better than Sabie lynch.

*punches hat*

Sloonei could have actually created a real lynch but instead spun onto BWT to make a 4 way tie. Loss of civilian read is necessitated.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:10 pm I knew it was ending, but also, Creature's activity of late had no effect on my vote. I saw Sloonei and Epi were voting for sprit and I trust them so far so I voted there.

You town read me and liked my actual case but moved off it to sheep two people voting for worse reasons. That's certainly what I expect of the lazy civ play I associate with this site.

Epi actually deeply analysed Sabie and found her suspect. All he did to put his vote on sprit was quote his posts and say yuck.

I hate this game sometimes.

If you feel like you did a good civ effort on day 1 put your hand up?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:13 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:13 pm Oh it's a scumteam of two

AKA we may have been just on a mole rat fight anyway.

Sabie is probably Mafia and her teammate just dissented enough for lemmings to walk in alternate directions.

The shit thing is it could be any of up to 4 people, yourself included.

That day needed to end in Sabie lynch just so we could solve how people were responsing to her case.

But no, not creative.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:11 pm Sloonei could have actually created a real lynch but instead spun onto BWT to make a 4 way tie. Loss of civilian read is necessitated.

I felt the best about a bwt lynch.

You're gonna have to express why mate. Because from where I sit BWT was by no metric the best d1 lynch.

I actually understand why the other two got votes more than him.

I remember someone saying that people voting BWT on day 1 are always bad too. Maybe LC?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:16 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:13 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:13 pm Oh it's a scumteam of two

AKA we may have been just on a mole rat fight anyway.

Sabie is probably Mafia and her teammate just dissented enough for lemmings to walk in alternate directions.

The shit thing is it could be any of up to 4 people, yourself included.

That day needed to end in Sabie lynch just so we could solve how people were responsing to her case.

But no, not creative.

If everybody just planted on sabie then there wouldn't have good analysis material though.

Everything was fine except she didn't get lynched. A civ needed to vote her at the end rather than going off down shit lynch garden paths.

Primarily you and Sloonei. You I forgive slightly more because you're obviously intentionally contrarian but Sloonei needs to do better or he's just Mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:13 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:10 pm I knew it was ending, but also, Creature's activity of late had no effect on my vote. I saw Sloonei and Epi were voting for sprit and I trust them so far so I voted there.

You town read me and liked my actual case but moved off it to sheep two people voting for worse reasons. That's certainly what I expect of the lazy civ play I associate with this site.

Epi actually deeply analysed Sabie and found her suspect. All he did to put his vote on sprit was quote his posts and say yuck.

I hate this game sometimes.

I suspected sabie. I'm also not letting her get lynched Day 1 for the 900th time. Long Con did the same, but voted me.

1. Oh.
2. Ah.
3. You know, you're right. There's always Day 2 or 3 or 4 to lynch someone, right? Can't we let someone have a chance to play for a change, for chrissake?

I don't know how I feel about this thought belonging to you.

At any rate, I give up my time and energy to these games to solve them not to just put words on a screen then ignore good cases for game losing reasons. Sucks for Sabie she gets stomped all the time but at least she gets to spend less time wasting their life while dumb civs ruin games.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:11 pm Sloonei could have actually created a real lynch but instead spun onto BWT to make a 4 way tie. Loss of civilian read is necessitated.

I felt the best about a bwt lynch.

You're gonna have to express why mate. Because from where I sit BWT was by no metric the best d1 lynch.

I actually understand why the other two got votes more than him.

I remember someone saying that people voting BWT on day 1 are always bad too. Maybe LC?

My read on sabie is that she is just sabie. She gets mislynched for the things you accused her of fairly often. I expressed this several times during the day.

I wasn't voting Jack on Day 1 for being a doofus. That's dumb.

There is no strong reason to read sprityo one way or the other.

Some of birdwithteeth's posts struck me as light, fluffy things which I would associate with mafia members trying not to offend anyone on Day 1.

Sabie flip tells us so much after how the day went. All the reactions were based on my analysis of her. You chose the safe space of a BWT vote over that.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:25 pm Ahem. Sorry if it sounded like I was yelling.
It was clearly not going to be a unanimous vote on Sabie and it was end of day anyways so we already had vote patterns if it was the correct option then we should have been on that instead of one of three less than half baked cases against other people. I’m not sure if probability wise that was most likely to yield the best result (I am not going near Mac’s town clear of the other two that seems like garbage) but that was the only lynch with discussion today.

I am not town clearing anyone despite what I said but it's a rare universe where wolfjack doesn't have something to say when he is tied for the lead in the bottom of the ninth.

Sprityo can be Mafia here that's very viable.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:11 pm Sloonei could have actually created a real lynch but instead spun onto BWT to make a 4 way tie. Loss of civilian read is necessitated.

I felt the best about a bwt lynch.

You're gonna have to express why mate. Because from where I sit BWT was by no metric the best d1 lynch.

I actually understand why the other two got votes more than him.

I remember someone saying that people voting BWT on day 1 are always bad too. Maybe LC?

My read on sabie is that she is just sabie. She gets mislynched for the things you accused her of fairly often. I expressed this several times during the day.

I wasn't voting Jack on Day 1 for being a doofus. That's dumb.

There is no strong reason to read sprityo one way or the other.

Some of birdwithteeth's posts struck me as light, fluffy things which I would associate with mafia members trying not to offend anyone on Day 1.

Sabie flip tells us so much after how the day went. All the reactions were based on my analysis of her. You chose the safe space of a BWT vote over that.

I chose to vote for the player I had the strongest suspicion against.

That alone is suspicious. All this good juicy shit and you land on captain attract'a'vote.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:27 pm How many times have you been wrong about sabie, Mac?

1. One
2. Two
3. Three
4. Never!

I don't know or care. This is about making high percentage plays as civilians. Sabie flipping civ here is better than BWT flipping civ and it's not even close.

The answer is probably more than three btw.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:28 pm Any reason to townread Colin?

His vote was lame and his need to explain it shows guilty conscience so no.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:28 pm Also is it bad if I point someone's name appearing on the online list?

Perfectly fine.

So what town clear is garbage?

I HAVE SHIT TO DO TODAY. IF YOU ARE A CIV PLEASE DO CIV SHIT. IF YOU ARE MAFIA PLEASE ACT LIKE MAFIA. THANKS.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:12 pm

I felt the best about a bwt lynch.

You're gonna have to express why mate. Because from where I sit BWT was by no metric the best d1 lynch.

I actually understand why the other two got votes more than him.

I remember someone saying that people voting BWT on day 1 are always bad too. Maybe LC?

My read on sabie is that she is just sabie. She gets mislynched for the things you accused her of fairly often. I expressed this several times during the day.

I wasn't voting Jack on Day 1 for being a doofus. That's dumb.

There is no strong reason to read sprityo one way or the other.

Some of birdwithteeth's posts struck me as light, fluffy things which I would associate with mafia members trying not to offend anyone on Day 1.

Sabie flip tells us so much after how the day went. All the reactions were based on my analysis of her. You chose the safe space of a BWT vote over that.

I chose to vote for the player I had the strongest suspicion against.

That alone is suspicious. All this good juicy shit and you land on captain attract'a'vote.

Fuck your juices.

I'm not allowed to scumread you because meta. Hopefully someone else does it for me.

Colin talk to me about LC and vice versa

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:48 pm I don’t think Colin comes in so limp if he’s bad.

Civilians have a duty to find scum. Colin attempted to abscond from said duty before realising he already had made comments that he refused to further elaborate on.

Colin may be a civilian failing in his duty but he should be given zero civilian credit for "limpness". I have said it dozens of times, civs allowing a gamestate of apathetic civ play lets the Mafia play that way and get away with it.

There must be consequences for refusal to contribute to a civilian dialogue for no reason.

On another note, if we don't hear from Dragomir and Oreki what do we purport to do with them? I would hope to see some subs. Jay if you require them and can't find them perhaps consider hitting up the MU discord and seeing if we can lure some new players in.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:42 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:44 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:50 am Colin talk to me about LC and vice versa

I’m lazy, so I’m not going to.

Also, this post is a bit sketchy. Why wasn't your answer that you already talked about me? Was the case so fake that you forgot to pretend it was real?

I'm poking fun at Mac being a meanie to me. Why are you so obsessed with me?

For the record, this vociferous no-u-ing I'm getting actually makes me feel a little better about LC. His thinking here doesn't make sense but even less so if he's mafia and I'm the hill he wants to die on.

How is me asking you and LC to talk about each other being a big meanie?

What is the benefit of "making fun"?

Also I think when people "make fun" they are generally supposed to be funny. Just some advice.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:48 pm Mac I'm not going to engage you further, honestly. Don't know what's going on but your energy is bizarre. It's not even Day 2 and you're going off.

Um. If anything is bizarre it's this response. My "energy"? Is bizarre? Have you been dropping acid homie?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:46 pm Because you called me lazy ... ?

You take offense to being called lazy? In a game you admittedly say you are just having fun in?

And what does it not being day 2 have to do with anything? Is there some duration trigger that needs to expire before I'm allowed to play properly?

Also how does me having bizarre energy manifest in you choosing to ignore me as opposed to scum reading me?

But alas you're probs gonna just ignore these valid points and get town read for it because "civs".

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:51 pm Lynch MacDougall and save fun!

If this is one of those games in which the intention is for the civs to not win then sure lynch me.

Uh oh Juliets on patrol. I'm probs in trouble for telling Colin he's not funny. Put me on detention Juliets.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:56 pm Also how does me having bizarre energy manifest in you choosing to ignore me as opposed to scum reading me?

I know the obvious answer is that he thinks I am a civ and that I am being an asshole but it feels strange that his distaste of me didn't result in even the faintest no u.

Does Colin never no u?

Linki: Oh shoot.