The Syndicate

I won't be super prominent here but I will still solve the game so all g bb

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:57 pm I won't be super prominent here but I will still solve the game so all g bb

Oh hey mac, glad to play with you again.

you too homeskillet

7 fucken pages yewwww go kids

im gonna do a fun trick

im gonna townfirm myself by not giving enough of a fuck to be mafia

then you won't chop me

but the mafia will fearkill me n1 cuz they'll think i'm a pr

ez shit

God damn i am so townie

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:21 am Sup broseph, it has been a while

Weren't you in the Simpson's game tho?

But yes, sup etc.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:15 pm I will have this entire game solved in 24 hours

Can I have your solve plz?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:38 pm I signed up for this game anonymously in hopes that I could play on a sockpuppet and not have to be myself, but now I am myself so I’ll probably need to do things.

I thought I was gonna be like hidden on the playerlist so I could just slank day 1 then surprise everyone at EOD.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:58 pm Hello. Hey. Hi. How's it going?

How did you get in here?

polypies73 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:40 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:15 pm

polypies73 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:11 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:02 pm

polypies73 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:59 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:58 pm

polypies73 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:56 pm

perhaps

Perhaps? Why so cagey?

what

Cagey: reluctant to give information

yeah sorry i don't know if i want to tell you my favourite letter

Well this relationship has gotten off to a rocky start. I noticed you spelled favourite with a "u". Canadian?

australian

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:56 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:35 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:25 pm "i am ned flanders and i am continually calling tutuu mafia because that will definitely help me correctly gauge her reactions and determine her alignment because i definitely know what im doing!!!"

Double scum points for excessive punctuation.

I don't like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah this bullying Tutuu game is lame.

Cool nobody to trade jabs with. My favourite.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:13 pm tutuu might actually be scum here.

BK, Flanders, Falcon, Poison V

Errr why is BoKnows town? That's a bad read.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:14 pm Are you busy with Thanksgiving Mac?

No I was just playing video mafia all day yesterday

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:15 pm everyone scum reading tutuuu. hmmm... what did she do wrong, I don't remember her getting scum read this early.

I can see why she's getting scum read, but I think she's probably just null right now. I don't actually think many of the mafia had posted up until this point in the game honestly. Maybe 2 at most.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:19 pm She hasn't done enough absurdist roleplay

She got attacked almost immediately by a couple of loltownies so I'd give her a pass for it tbh.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:21 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:18 pm I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

How so?

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:33 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:27 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:25 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:15 pm everyone scum reading tutuuu. hmmm... what did she do wrong, I don't remember her getting scum read this early.

idk man haters with their unrealistic expectations

are you depressed because for so long you've been waiting to thrash us and show us how dangerous it was for us to always townclear you early and now when you finally rolled scum you get suspected immediately?

alison town.

Don't give her this read that easily. That's a death sentence.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:02 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:57 pm I won't be super prominent here but I will still solve the game so all g bb

Oh hey mac, glad to play with you again.

you too homeskillet

Mac I feel I like played with you over on MU.

Yes. Lend's Bastard Fiesta.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:56 pmi townread tutuu

I feel caught in the middle between extremists haha

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:46 pm That post actually looks like scum Poison overextending an attack on town tutuu honestly. The "tensed and is not making proper sense" part is not natural wording for someone trying to express a suspicion. It's like you're trying to discredit tutuu without outright calling her scum (and I don't think you've outright called tutuu scum the whole game, either).

I don't think Poison/tutuu are W/W, but there's one scum between them at least.

I think you might be right.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:47 pm BoKnows is such a fucking innocent child lol

I really still do not understand this read.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:55 pm I do like Tutuus plea to get more leash. Nothing is more frustrating than being wrongly labelled early into a game and you're on the defence for the majority of the round.

Also if the thunal and alison masons thing is in fact a thing that would be huge. start clearing some people

Hmmm maybe there is a point.

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:25 am Is it too late for the simple Hey enterance?

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:04 pm Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

Do you have Thunal meta?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:07 pm Wtf why is there 16 pages on day 0

Would you believe I contributed like hardly any of this? I only started posting like half an hour ago lol.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:07 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:04 pm Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

Do you have Thunal meta?

We've played quite a few turbos together, although this is kind of different. He feels stilted imo.

Thunal is tough for me. I think they are scummy as either alignment. I certainly am not town reading them. That post I quoted was the one that was the scummiest fmpov.

I think Thunal kinda gets wolfier or scummier as the game goes on depending on their alignment so I'm not super worried about them.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:10 pm I haven't ruled out Alison as scum but do like her effort to PoE.

Alison is probably town but yeah what you said

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:57 am I am threadspewed town because everyone thinks im scum

This feels honest

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:50 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:21 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:18 pm I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

How so?

I felt like Tutuu's entrance wasn't quite as silly/zany as her play was in Grasslands but it was sillier than her play in the MafC game, and I feel like Tutuu's degree of silliness is due to level of comfort or mood.

Silliness = level of comfort?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:47 pm BoKnows is such a fucking innocent child lol

I really still do not understand this read.

Can I just say trust me on this one and take it on faith for now?

Sure

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:17 pm thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:21 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:17 pm Like "Thunal is scum because she is making detailed posts" is not a read that makes sense to me, as someone who's seen the way Thunal towns.

It doesn't, but 112's read feels like mostly a gut read to me and I can't really pick that apart. I will say that I play town D1 by asking questions/generating info and then voicing takes once I get them.

If I didn't have meta that says "Mac you scumread Thunal in every game" I would be pushing you as my top scum here.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:17 pm thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

KZA how are you reading the game right now?

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:26 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

lmao falc (and flanders to an extent) just demolished

The main issue is that I don't trust them to reevaluate and see it for what it is when they are pushing onto town. If they can prove me wrong on that then go nuts I say.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:28 pm People realize its day 0 right? Alot of people seem to have started voting on like page 4.

Yeah that was pretty funny.

I demand a Tutuu brand fairy tale about me sweeping in to save her from the dark forces tho

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:35 am

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:58 pmBK town

o. are you?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:17 pm thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.

As opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?

Slow down or I'll never catch up

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:37 am

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:32 am

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:24 am

NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:20 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:37 pm I don't see KZA as being particularly town, Flanders.

Its been a while since ive played with KZA but this is nothing new
Hes almost playing too serious for day 1 imo
Been a while tho.

What is "nothing new" if he's "playing too serious"?

nothing new as in not being too towny?
playing too serious: he seems like a new KZA

A new Kza eh. Hrrrmm.
Feels kinda gross.

Kza posting early in the game is what made me want to town lean him despite his eager pocketing.

He did promise to tunnel all us cdc'ers so I'm just gonna give him a slight scum lean now because I think you're teammates.

NIK and KZA is actually kinda my pet theory right now so I apologise for what I said about you earlier here have a cookie.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:17 pm thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.

As opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?

People didn't seem to be caring that Tutuu's been serious before as town so I was kind of repeating myself to influence others to back off their reads. I don't see how doing what you suggested is any townier or better.

So you are saying that your goal was to get people to back off their Tutuu reads?

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:28 pm KZA how are you reading the game right now?

Lazily, the game isn't really firing yet

I have BoKnows, Falcon, Thrunal, Allison as my townie pile

Personally I just want Tutuu to have some room to breathe and for everyone to show up

What would the game firing look like to you?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:47 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:14 am It is not gross, and it was a silly/friendly thing to say

I do not have high hopes that my alignment, whatever that alignment may be, will win this game, after seeing the posts written in the thread so far...

wut

yeah...

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:56 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:14 am It is not gross, and it was a silly/friendly thing to say

I do not have high hopes that my alignment, whatever that alignment may be, will win this game, after seeing the posts written in the thread so far...

Ohhhghh this is interesting if you are 3p don't die.

Poison is mafia and Tutuu is in fact a 3p. Got it.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:23 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:21 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:18 pm I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

Come to think of it, that could be suspicious because the Grasslands game is probably a more representative baseline for this game and the fact she feels less comfortable/joking than that baseline might be AI.

Your goal was to get people to back off and you do so by posting hedges like this?

Thunal and Poison, do you have reads on one another?