The Syndicate

My favorite rabbit is Blackberry from Watership Down

A good friend of mine is moving to Easter Island this week, doing a teaching residency for the next year.

So yeah, looking forward to sending letters to Easter Island.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:55 pm omg this is a trip

@G-Man if you end up needing a replacement I might be crazy enough to join this

I think I might already be replacing in too. :O

Join me nutella!

Aw crap I got a mafia rolecard.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:28 pm I think Charlie Blackmoor was specifically talking about Jay rather than making a sweeping statement about low posters in general
Correct. Never take out your heavy hitters without good reason. Turn everybody else into a heavy hitter instead.

And yet you voted for Macdougall?

If JaggedJimmyJay is batting third, then Macdougall is your cleanup man. Why vote for him?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 2:04 am Wolbre and Jay teammates

Agreed. Marmot's teammates identified.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention], get in her and get your vote off Jay if you get a chance. Thanks bud!

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.

Spoiler: show

I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.

This guy is mafia.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:43 am @MacDougall, get in her and get your vote off Jay if you get a chance. Thanks bud!

EBWOP: Get in here, not in her

Wow my keyboard...

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:50 am I'm here and aware that the game has started. Day ends in about 12 hours it seems, and I'll be able to read through and write words by then. This game has mostly players I'm familiar with in it, so that's cool. Hi hi hi^^

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 10:37 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am [VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.

Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:22 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 2:06 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: WOLBRE04] aubergine
?
Just hoping you'd show. What's up?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:30 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
What specifically is not genuine?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:37 pm ColinIsCool
Kylemii
M Plus 7
novaselinenever
Scotty

Dyslexicon
TheFloyd73

wolbre04
Quin
MacDougall
lapluie
Elohcin
Choutas
I think the green reads are generally agreeable or understandable, but can you explain Nova and Scotty at all?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?

I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.

This guy is mafia.
I appreciate your attention, but you are mistaken.

Your thoughts are predicated on the comparison that my gameplay is similar to yours, specifically in that what is alignment indicative for you also is for me, but I don't think that's true. Would you say that we play similarly enough that such a comparison would prove meaningful? I wouldn't.

It's true I'm not in hardcore scum hunting mode yet, I'll give you that. I'm working my way there. Doesn't mean I'm mafia. If anything, whenever I'm mafia I always feel pressured to force that much earlier on. Instead I think my ISO displays that I'm trying to let it happen organically. I have nothing to hide.

My other point of comparison is Ancient Greece Mafia, you were a civilian in that game, and towned it up hard Day 0 through Day 1 and onward, voicing opinions on events that happened, early and often.

That wasn't happening here (I haven't read your most recent posts yet mind you). I get that this game has gotten off to a slow start, but my gut (not my soul) tells me that you're scum.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 10:45 am Marmot, I actually trust you right now more than anyone. You got any other juicy content to throw my way? Let's work through this.

I can give you more. Need to hop on a work call, but I'll have a bit more time later this afternoon. Get your shit ready folks, if you really want to lynch Jay than you'll have my activity to deal with.

To be honest, I didn't read the Jay/Quin back-in-forth in depth, but I dislike Jay's defense of "Don't lynch your most active player". Would he say the same about dunya?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:21 am Does anyone actually get the impression that Jay made a meaningful decision in his mind to determine whether the two people accusing him (Elo and Quin) were town or mafia? Townies suspect other townies for shitty reasons all the time. Town Jay would care about that. Instead it looks like Jay just discarded their thoughts and feelings as trash without second thought. That's not town behavior. That's what bugs me.

Alright, I will look into Jay's interactions with Quin in a bit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:41 pmbut I dislike Jay's defense of "Don't lynch your most active player". Would he say the same about dunya?
It seems the most popular meme in recent Syndicate history is to morph Jay's words into something brazenly stupid and then criticize them. I am everyone's favorite straw man.

I'm sorry that this sort of thing is happening. I don't mean to wrap your words into a one-line summary that might not be true, and that's probably a product of my not reading everything you said, and projecting my interpretation on what I did read.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 3:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 2:55 pm votes Dizzy. Ephraim said so.
Who is ephraim??

One of her sons (but not Simon).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:41 am MacDougall's token poop flings serve no function in this game to this point at least for him, because he hasn't done anything with them. I will absolutely not be giving him any credit for sticking random garbage into the thread without expansion (JJJ is bad / JJJ and wolbre are teammates are pulled from the void, not from anything in this game). Things like that can have purpose if the player builds on them after reactions are generated. Mac has done fuck all with a pile of reactions I have supplied to him beyond a laughter emoji. Zero town points awarded.

Did you not realize that Mac had replaced out when you made this post?

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:41 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:33 pm It was an attempt to goad you into the thread, so I would say it is semi-serious. It is slightly more serious because of your reply to me earlier
I see.
I have no reads tbh I'm just stalling

No reads. Oh no!!

Read me pls

lapluie wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:21 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 3:38 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 2:10 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:11 am I see @lapluie hS also voted Floyd, for no discernible reason.

I know why I am there, does lap?
Yes sir I do.
Would you like to share with the class?
clears throat
inactive
that's basically all I have to clarify for my vote, nothing exaggerating I kno! !

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Potential baddie alert!!!

In Mortal Kombat, here's a question lapluie posed for Simon.

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:06 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:58 pm I voted bwt. I'm pretty sure he is bad.
hello, welcome
what makes you think Birdwithteeth11 is bad?
they have not posted yet

Lapluie was a civilian in that game, while Simon was mafia. Meanwhile in this game, lapluie silently placed a vote on TheFloyd who hasn't posted yet. This put Floyd at 2 votes, and in second overall. The reason for voting TheFloyd? He's been inactive thus far.

Lapluie is an orange salad roll.

[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

Jay, what do you make of MP7?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:41 am MacDougall's token poop flings serve no function in this game to this point at least for him, because he hasn't done anything with them. I will absolutely not be giving him any credit for sticking random garbage into the thread without expansion (JJJ is bad / JJJ and wolbre are teammates are pulled from the void, not from anything in this game). Things like that can have purpose if the player builds on them after reactions are generated. Mac has done fuck all with a pile of reactions I have supplied to him beyond a laughter emoji. Zero town points awarded.
Did you not realize that Mac had replaced out when you made this post?
I was aware before that but then forgot.

Confirmed. Jay and I are not mafia teammates.

My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.

Spoiler: show

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 10:37 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am [VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.

Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:22 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 2:06 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: WOLBRE04] aubergine
?
Just hoping you'd show. What's up?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:30 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
What specifically is not genuine?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:37 pm ColinIsCool
Kylemii
M Plus 7
novaselinenever
Scotty

Dyslexicon
TheFloyd73

wolbre04
Quin
MacDougall
lapluie
Elohcin
Choutas
I think the green reads are generally agreeable or understandable, but can you explain Nova and Scotty at all?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?

I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.

This guy is mafia.
I appreciate your attention, but you are mistaken.

Your thoughts are predicated on the comparison that my gameplay is similar to yours, specifically in that what is alignment indicative for you also is for me, but I don't think that's true. Would you say that we play similarly enough that such a comparison would prove meaningful? I wouldn't.

It's true I'm not in hardcore scum hunting mode yet, I'll give you that. I'm working my way there. Doesn't mean I'm mafia. If anything, whenever I'm mafia I always feel pressured to force that much earlier on. Instead I think my ISO displays that I'm trying to let it happen organically. I have nothing to hide.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm I have nothing against lynching a low-content player. I don't know why it should be Floyd though. I can conceive of reasons to suspect lapluie and Dizzy beyond just having few posts. There is nothing but a blank void for Floyd. Sweet rhyme.

Nutella is actively looking to replace in, so I don't see a reason to lynch Floyd if we can find a better solution.

As for low-content, depends how they look. Laplulie has been low-content but I find her somewhat suspicious for what she has said. Dizzy has been low-content, but she's promised to be around before the deadline, so I'm willing to give her that chance.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:05 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.
Fair gripe, but also one that dooms the suspect from the first moment it is stated. Once you have said it, then no matter when MP starts to do work -- it came after you said it.

Can he win?

With me? Probably not.

But that works with any case made. The content he's put up has already been posted and analyzed, he can't change what he's said, only what he will do.

On a related note, Floyd hasn't logged in since April 28, so I'm not sure when we can expect him exactly.

I don't think I'm being unfair, just point out a thing that I found suspicious :[

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:30 pm Why is lapluie a more favorable option over Elohcin?

Because I built a coffin for her.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:35 pm I hate Dizzy's vote. Why should I not hate Dizzy's vote?

It made my wagon 4-strong, and nobody else had more than 2 (not even sure there was a 2).
It patently sucks, but how does it make Dizzy scum?

I don't like Dizzy or Elohcin's votes, though Dizzy's I like less.

Why Elohcin? I just read through her ISO, and her vote is the only thing I find suspicious.

Is there anything that makes Dizzy town?

Jay shrugged, and the whole mafia game collapsed.

I have a rainbow, and here's what it looks like.

ColinIsCool
novaselinenever
Scotty

Charlie Blackmon
Choutas
Elohcin
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Quin
TheFloyd73
wolbre04

Dyslexicon
lapluie
M Plus 7

They're listed alphabetically inside of each color. You're just grouped with the other two players I include as such.

Jay is yellow because I don't have a strong read either way.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:53 pm Dizzy places a vote on the largest wagon in the poll.

"obviously throwaway"

What the hell?

Yeah, this is suspicious.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:55 pm Jay doesn't give a fuck what anyone's alignment is.

Why's that?

I know he's not voting for me, but I'm not seeing that from him. Then again I agree with him, so

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:53 pm Dizzy places a vote on the largest wagon in the poll.

"obviously throwaway"

What the hell?
Yeah, this is suspicious.
Will you ever not find me suspicious? It's hard to take it seriously when you suspect me in every game we play. What's my motive as mafia?

Ridiculous.

Dizzy is a mafia teammate of yours and Jay is a civilian who was well on his way to being lynched? That's a possible motive.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:24 am
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:28 pm I think Charlie Blackmoor was specifically talking about Jay rather than making a sweeping statement about low posters in general
Correct. Never take out your heavy hitters without good reason. Turn everybody else into a heavy hitter instead.
And yet you voted for Macdougall?

If JaggedJimmyJay is batting third, then Macdougall is your cleanup man. Why vote for him?
MacDougall had not done anything in this game to warrant batting cleanup or being called a heavy hitter.

He would be if he wasn't ejected.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:01 pm
You and I seem to be the only people around here who respect this emoji.

Dunno why, I prefer it to

in most situations.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:06 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:00 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:53 pm Dizzy places a vote on the largest wagon in the poll.

"obviously throwaway"

What the hell?
Yeah, this is suspicious.
Will you ever not find me suspicious? It's hard to take it seriously when you suspect me in every game we play. What's my motive as mafia?

Ridiculous.
Dizzy is a mafia teammate of yours and Jay is a civilian who was well on his way to being lynched? That's a possible motive.
I mean, I guess? I don't play that way as mafia, but sure.

Also in a PoE I could narrow down Dizzy to my final couple players. Regardless of where the vote came from, she's done nothing to make me think she's a civilian.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:08 pm It's fine, I get why I look suspicious now. I just don't like it. But it's part of the game, so if you all think I'm the way to go, that's fine. I suck this game anyway.

It's Day 1 dude!! We have literally the least amount of information we could have at any point in the game!

Only Charlie Blackmon has sucked so far, because he's committed two errors.

lapluie wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:12 pm Can we focus on Scotty too pls, this is 2 pressuring

Scotty has made multiple posts this game that I find civilian-aligned.

And also he's known for voting inactives on Day 1, whereas I found a case of you questioning someone else in another game for it.

lapluie wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:10 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:08 pmoh my snot
I eagerly await your input.
This is like de ja vu all over again
well to be honest guys, I don't have much reads on anyone, so... I am just voting for an inactive player rather voting off for some body who's already has a leading vote for lynch in which I don't even think they're bad, everyone is just basically voting off eachother for their own reasons but I don't typically agree, dyslex only has 3 posts so I don't understand why they have votes to begin with. (??) IDK WHAT ELSE to say lmao.

I guess I don't understand why you'll defend someone with 3 posts while you'll vote someone with 0 posts.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:20 pm How on earth do you only have a couple people left on your POE before the day 1 result?

What is so strange about this?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:23 pm lapluie seems pretty forthright, and even though I don't like it, I can understand how someone could not have any definitive reads at the moment.

Quick, do something really suspicious so she can scumread you!

There's a difference between having reads on players and knowing whether or not we're sucking. I happened to have some decently strong scumreads for Day 1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:27 pm There's a difference between having reads on players and knowing whether or not we're sucking. I happened to have some decently strong scumreads for Day 1.
Has your red on lapluie been affected at all by recent discussion?

Not really. How do you feel?

...

Jay, we need to have a word privately.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:27 pm There's a difference between having reads on players and knowing whether or not we're sucking. I happened to have some decently strong scumreads for Day 1.
Has your red on lapluie been affected at all by recent discussion?
Not really. How do you feel?
Like this looks familiar.

Assassination Classroom (lapluie mislynched Day 1):

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lapluie wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 1:32 pm I dont see how or why jack & aVito have votes right now, their posts don't come off as sus to m but also never player with avito & I guess nova has?? That's why he's voting. Still don't understand jack? Actually I dont recall reading any of you from last game, so it's just vague. ~_~

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:06 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:05 pmWhat the snot?
Whaddya say?
uhhhhh, I .. dont have anything to say but good luck if I die. kinda LAME juliets went ahead & just voted for me ofcoruse she would, I would have done the same tbh no harsh feelings to save myself. or anyone really, Nova is basically saying he'd voting for me because I voted early with a weak case ok, butttt didn't he vote for avito first also so???? Idunno NULL. Sorry. Babbling probably useless post lol

I disagree. Familiar a little I guess, but still different. In the above two posts, she did call juliets lame in one of them, and defend jack and a Vito in the other one.

In this game, Scotty is the only person she's pointed at, and that's for doing the same thing she did.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:43 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:40 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:40 pm ...

Jay, we need to have a word privately.
I KNEW IT
Wait, i remember something like his happening. Wasn’t thT...uh...downton Abbey?

sure did!

Wow your time is exquisite Dizzy!

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