The Syndicate

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:48 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:47 pm I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints
what about @Michelle

I didn't receive infos that the game started, sorry about that, thanks for the ping!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:30 pm I, JaggedJimmyJay, site administrator and long-time Mafia enthusiast, am a member of the town faction. Oh good gravy!

Nice, I will keep it in mind ^^

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:30 am okay I'm not w/w with Michelle that's good news

maybe I can summon @Dom too

Wait a minute sir, what makes you clear yourself from an w/w association?
If you are villager you are never w/w with anyone.
Yes, you can say only you can know this, but i will Fos this mindset

And I have to prepare for work, catching up will happen after

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:28 pm So who else is town?
im town lol

I will note that too

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:48 pm I have played serious restrictions on my broader usage of the web so my participation in this game will be significantly less than you are used to. I am town. If I see a person make a contribution read based on my iMpAcT or vOlUmE I will reduce my effort by 5%. I have 10 minutes of time left today.

Are you ok Mac?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:37 am kza doesn't need my vote right now, so I'm gonna leave it on SPF to continue emphasizing her as a topic of discussion, even if the "reason" I had for putting it there in the first place was silly.

Do you scum read SPF for a silly reason?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:37 am hi michelle!

How are you? How's your rand?

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:38 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:32 am
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:30 am okay I'm not w/w with Michelle that's good news

maybe I can summon @Dom too
Wait a minute sir, what makes you clear yourself from an w/w association?
If you are villager you are never w/w with anyone.
Yes, you can say only you can know this, but i will Fos this mindset
It's for the sake of other people

I would've told you in wolf chat the game started and you probably wouldn't respond to my ping specifically, also I would've been happy to see you missing from Alison's list of contentious slots and not even brought you up

Who is scum KZA?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:38 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:49 pm I want tutuu fanfics about TSPF
Pilot: As TSP was walking down the Bazaar, a mysterious trinket seller beckoned him. "Come here, young man, see my wares...". Intrigued, TSP approached and saw a shiny earring. "5 gold coins and it will make your dreams come true" smiled the oily vendor. "Hmpf, yea right" mumbled TSP but bought in anyway.

After a wild night of partying and drinking ale, TSP went straight to bed, his earring still in place.

As the sun rose, TSP, felt ... different. He noticed a noticable weight and volume increase on his chest. He walked in front of his mirror and his jaw dropped.

TSP ... became SPF

nice story tutuu ^^

I couldn't resist and I read page one

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:04 pm Mac is volume cleared.

Lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:06 pm Falcon is town. That's all I've got so far.

Mac good vibe

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:06 pm Falcon is town. That's all I've got so far.
Yes I am, but what makes you think so?

Falcon good vibe too

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:12 pm falcon and Mac are both civilians.

Jay noticed

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:14 pm Falcon V
JPIC W
MacDougall V
JJJ V

Dear mafia: I am a provable town sided PR. I have just given you four accurate reads. Now you will have to deal with confirmed town Alison the whole of D1. On N1 you will have to choose between shooting town Alison, town Mac or town JJJ. Possibly even town Sloonei as well. Have fun.

Alison too

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:15 pm Falcon and Alison think JPIC is W.
JJJ and Alison think Mac is V.
Mac and Alison think Falcon is V.

I am townreading all of Falcon/JJJ/Mac. If you'd like to pocket me for free, now is your chance. Limited time offer only, expires at the end of D0.

Is this the first mention of pocketing in this game?
Someone is pocketing but idk who is doing the action and on whom

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:25 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:15 pm Falcon and Alison think JPIC is W.
JJJ and Alison think Mac is V.
Mac and Alison think Falcon is V.

I am townreading all of Falcon/JJJ/Mac. If you'd like to pocket me for free, now is your chance. Limited time offer only, expires at the end of D0.
How do I say this. I actually am scumreading JPIC also. I didn't out that read because I didn't want to.

Secret reads are ok-ish

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:27 pm JPIC is the town cop.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:36 pm Showing up for EODs is overrated. Lock your vote on whoever you want to exe in a few hours before and go have dinner. If town does something stupid yell at them the next day.

Showing up for the Eod is what makes town catching mafia and find each other more often than not

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:37 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:36 pm Showing up for EODs is overrated. Lock your vote on whoever you want to exe in a few hours before and go have dinner. If town does something stupid yell at them the next day.
Real time interactions at the deadline are my bread and dairy free butter substitute.

You can say it like that too

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:47 am I just realized today that if you hit the arrow next to a topic on mobile it takes you to the newest post

I'm v happy

Thanks for sharing, that's cool

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:40 am
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:38 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:32 am
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:30 am okay I'm not w/w with Michelle that's good news

maybe I can summon @Dom too
Wait a minute sir, what makes you clear yourself from an w/w association?
If you are villager you are never w/w with anyone.
Yes, you can say only you can know this, but i will Fos this mindset
It's for the sake of other people

I would've told you in wolf chat the game started and you probably wouldn't respond to my ping specifically, also I would've been happy to see you missing from Alison's list of contentious slots and not even brought you up
Who is scum KZA?
Nanook and Tutuu

Why?

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:53 am Michelle seems town based on the night/day difference I'm seeing from when I played against her in Spiderverse

Night/day difference

how embarrassing...

And yes, you're right

My boss will not appreciate if I go late at work, cya later
SPFs wall, i didn't read it yet

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:46 pm Town: JJJ, MacDougall, Nanook, Oddmerta, Sloonei, Strawhenge, falcon45ca

Light town: Esooa, fingersplints, BoKnows

Null: Dom, Michelle, Long Con, Marmot

Mixed: tutuu, staypositivefriedn

POE: AL_sama, JPIC, KZA, TonyStarkPrime, tedxtr

Here's where I'm at.
@JaggedJimmyJay @Sloonei @tutuu @Esooa @Michelle

You guys are on Alison duty. Here's the rules.

Alison's current readslist is >rand accurate regardless of alignment. Her reads must remain good and she must remain day in and day out responsible for the pelting of wolves to remain above the line.

The idea is that we force her into the light, or force her to kill her teammates.

If at any stage of the game after I am dead there are more than two consecutive town mislynches and if Alison is still alive, instantly kill her.

As it stands I believe she is town and expect she will self resolve early, but these are the runes. Use them wisely.

I read this post and I agree with it

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:38 pm My slow prodding catch up is done. I am here and mostly up to date on the happenings. But the thread is dead. I need real time interactions. I crave real time interactions. Somebody step out of the shadows and keep me company.

Can you summarize what happened until now? I didn't catch up yet

I can't stay awake much, is 4 am and I have no idea why i woke up a little earlier

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:02 pm That was supposed to be a recommendation for Michelle to ISO those two players (KZA and sama) but I forgot to include this in the post so now I'm doing it here.

I wil Iso Al in the morning, I played few games with him. I can't say I always read him correct, but I will try

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:00 pm I think the thread is mostly back to form now. Folks had their sugar rush.

I feel good about where we stand. Does anyone have any particular read(s) they’re struggling with most or most conflicted about? I will be home shortly to talk.

I hope you'll be here in 3-4 hours, I can't be useful now

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:08 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:07 pm idk, tbh I'm probably not gonna talk about reads rn until closer to EoD/tomorrow, games this large are a bit much
What will you be doing instead?
thinking about posts all by my lonesome

I see this as a new approach, it's the first time when you try it?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:14 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:12 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:08 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:07 pm idk, tbh I'm probably not gonna talk about reads rn until closer to EoD/tomorrow, games this large are a bit much
What will you be doing instead?
thinking about posts all by my lonesome
I see this as a new approach, it's the first time when you try it?
just depends on my mood

Mood feels down

and like you don't want to talk so much
Is something that bothers you game related?

I like Sloonei's vibe

I remembered that Al is never posting much, so I read his posts. In a vacuum he looks good. But I didn't read any context to make a more educated guess.

Hi @AL_sama if you would have to vote in the moment you read this post, who is in your Poe and/or who would receive your vote?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:03 pm
what the hell

my bad, J, not trying to step on your toes
[/quote]
Umm.. Why not?

That quote is broken -_-

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:24 pm I like Sloonei's vibe

I remembered that Al is never posting much, so I read his posts. In a vacuum he looks good. But I didn't read any context to make a more educated guess.
what did you like about his posts?

What I like about black coffee? It's simple, efficient and you drink it fast because when it's cold isn't as good as hot
Al's posts are simple and efficient and easy/fast to read. If he has a visible agenda, should be noticeable after few flips. Until then, I think we have to look for scum elsewhere

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:29 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:03 pm what the hell
my bad, J, not trying to step on your toes
Umm.. Why not?
There's a joke in there that has fallen flat due in large part to an untimely quotation failure.

Aww poor joke.

Spoiler: show

I don't have time to play at work

I looked earlier at the thread and i saw a post mentioning a tie between Marmot and Odd, now Marmot's wagon dissipated and Al is top wagon

I decided to keep this VC and I will do it again, i forgot we need some VCs.

I will cast a vote on Marmot, probably that wagon have to exist. No, i didn't read and I will appreciate if someone tells me a towny activity from Marmot explaining the votes movement.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:22 am [VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Nobody trusts this slot, and getting a wagon up has been pulling teeth.

I trust Al

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:22 am [VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Nobody trusts this slot, and getting a wagon up has been pulling teeth.
I trust Al

And the wagon grew too fast

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:31 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:22 am [VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Nobody trusts this slot, and getting a wagon up has been pulling teeth.
I trust Al
And the wagon grew too fast
That argument is used to indicate that someone on the mafia team is wagoning Al to save their teammate (here proposed to be Marmot). Who on the Al wagon is mafia?

Not necessarily, i saw townies sheeping each other to form a wagon, this is wifom, but if there are one wolf i don't have to guess without reading the thread.
I said I don't scum read Al and i think a wagon on him looks convenient. Al may be mafia and my read wrong, but when players like Jay and you can't find a better wagon than an LHF I feel that somethings not right.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:24 pm
@Marmot [Joe Bulo] has been eliminated.

"Management says acquire the territory, we acquire it. Whether that's cash down or sending bodies to the morgue, that's up to the Krauts"
Joe Bulo

[Passive] - The frontman for the Kansas City Mafia northern expansion, Joe’s bringing a Walmart mentality to small-town America. As the new face of corporate crime, Joe doesn't get his own hands dirty. He scans as [Innocent] to cops. [Redacted]. He is immune to any other actions as long as one of his enforcers is alive.
--- [Joe Bullo Says Hi] - Factional kills performed by him are upgraded to a super-kill. [1-shot]

[Passive] - Joe runs a tight ship. If one of his men puts his operation in jeopardy, he doesn't hesitate in taking their arms or their tongues. If one of his underlings dies, he may redistribute their abilities to another one or use them himself.

[Active] - As the specialist in negotiations of his team, Joe may each day invite a player for a chat the following night. They will gain a private chat during the night phase, and he will learn their flavor name at the end of it. If he chats with the same player twice, he will learn their full role.
--- [Cease-Fire] - Any player currently in a chat with Joe will have their actions fail if they target one of his team.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

Night 1 starts.
You have 23 hours to submit your actions (if any).

Well, that's cool

Morning everyone

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:41 am Ride or die town reads:

Strawhenge
MacDougall
Alison
Oddmerta
falcon

I could still put Sloonei here. In the interest of responsible skepticism I will refrain for the time being.

Explain me Alison please
And Mac

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:54 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:47 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:41 am Ride or die town reads:

Strawhenge
MacDougall
Alison
Oddmerta
falcon

I could still put Sloonei here. In the interest of responsible skepticism I will refrain for the time being.
Explain me Alison please
And Mac
Both reads can be described similarly. They’ve portrayed the right sort of town-oriented mindsets, played to them, and in one way or another each contributed something to the thread climate that resulted in Marmot’s destruction. They’re going to resolve themselves. If they don’t, we worry about that later. Probably much later.

I think this post can be applied to almost every player in almost any game.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:40 am hello Michelle

can you let em know i'm a villager

Nope

And hello l, sorry i am working and with my head in papers

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:39 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:54 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:47 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:41 am Ride or die town reads:

Strawhenge
MacDougall
Alison
Oddmerta
falcon

I could still put Sloonei here. In the interest of responsible skepticism I will refrain for the time being.
Explain me Alison please
And Mac
Both reads can be described similarly. They’ve portrayed the right sort of town-oriented mindsets, played to them, and in one way or another each contributed something to the thread climate that resulted in Marmot’s destruction. They’re going to resolve themselves. If they don’t, we worry about that later. Probably much later.
I think this post can be applied to almost every player in almost any game.
I don’t.

Do you have suspicions of Mac or Alison?

Lack of paranoia for them is nagl
Like how on Earth you ride or die with them villagers? I don't get it

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:12 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:09 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:40 am hello Michelle

can you let em know i'm a villager
Nope
why, is it the FEAR

i'm an easy read you know it

If you bothered to read my few posts you'll understand I didn't read the game so i can't give such read.
The have no fear, don't flatter yourself

Work time, i may not post overnight, i am very busy.
I will check the thread in 10 hours or so anyway

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:13 am Lack of paranoia for them is nagl
Like how on Earth you ride or die with them villagers? I don't get it
I am the opposite of a paranoid player. I don’t think that way or care about that. While I respect the games of Mac and Alison, I don’t fear them. That’s what it’d mean to just be paranoid without a concrete reason.

I am JaggedJimmyJay. I am the Lost Ego of 2017. I am the KOFM. I am benevolent. I am forgiving. I am brave.

Maybe paranoid is exaggerated, but prudent would be a better word

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:44 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:15 am The have no fear, don't flatter yourself
then i expect you to attempt to find me as a villager once you do look into isos / have more time

If i am alive next day

Otoh Jay's post inspire such self confidence, i like it very much

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:42 am I'm going to claim paranoid gun owner and I will shoot anyone that visits me. Townies believe it, scum you can gamble on it

I read this and I accept this as a townish claim for now.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:51 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:42 am I'm going to claim paranoid gun owner and I will shoot anyone that visits me. Townies believe it, scum you can gamble on it
I read this and I accept this as a townish claim for now.
Why? You weren't impressed by the Alison-Oddmerta thing, but adding this dubious claim now makes you townread him?

Townish means just a lean, i would like to not receive speculations for my posts, tyvm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:06 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:56 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:51 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:42 am I'm going to claim paranoid gun owner and I will shoot anyone that visits me. Townies believe it, scum you can gamble on it
I read this and I accept this as a townish claim for now.
Why? You weren't impressed by the Alison-Oddmerta thing, but adding this dubious claim now makes you townread him?
Townish means just a lean, i would like to not receive speculations for my posts, tyvm
You avoided answering why. Why the townlean for this?

Except the fact he is avoiding a cop visit he's outing the info that a villager can die visiting him, which is pro town rather than wolfy.
I think if during the game we find him suspicious based on behaviour reasons we can change the read, but for now it's enough to accept he can be town like 70%

Btw why should i be impressed by the Alison-Odd thing?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:36 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:32 am Btw why should i be impressed by the Alison-Odd thing?
I thought that one player making a roleclaim in her first post, and then using that to very coincidentally clear another player that she was already trying to strongly shield might make an impression on you.

Sorry to dissapoint you

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:46 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:45 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:36 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:32 am Btw why should i be impressed by the Alison-Odd thing?
I thought that one player making a roleclaim in her first post, and then using that to very coincidentally clear another player that she was already trying to strongly shield might make an impression on you.
Sorry to dissapoint you
Hey Michelle what are your reads so far?

I think something is strange and I didn't figure out yet, i will Iso Marmot myself and see what can I find.

I kind of like LC as villager, Al doesn't look wolfy from my PoV (thinking that I was right that Marmot wagon diminished while Al's grew, he is a counter wagon. This doesn't make him a villager, but I guess he is not aligned with Marmot.
I like your vibe, and I need to read more for more reads

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:54 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:45 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:36 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:32 am Btw why should i be impressed by the Alison-Odd thing?
I thought that one player making a roleclaim in her first post, and then using that to very coincidentally clear another player that she was already trying to strongly shield might make an impression on you.
Sorry to dissapoint you
So, to you, all that is completely unimportant when judging Alison or Odd's alignment?

I honestly don't care at all about that claim, because is from Alison
You are free to buy it, but I am looking at it with prudence

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