The Syndicate

Marking for now. I’ll come up with a protection scheme later this game day. Yes, we do need one.

That’s not what we’re doing lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:41 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:37 am That’s not what we’re doing lol
feels annoying to disparage my idea without even giving it a chance as if its something silly, and as if luck isnt already involved to a degree in mafia

It is silly idk what to tell you

I guess I could’ve been more diplomatic about it, but yeah, we can do better than that I think.

Oh no what if we get embarrassed won’t that suck.

I’m not trolling btw, I just think we can do better.

I’ll put up a plan later tonight or more likely tomorrow sometime.

I mean no, I wasn’t trolling. I also wasn’t arguing in bad faith. Disagreeing with you doesn’t mean I’m trolling or arguing in bad faith, it means I think we can do better lol

I mean it’s pretty rude to continually tell me I’m trolling when I’m trying to tell you that I’m not

How many people are in this game, 14 or 15?

Chain of protection is...*fine*, but also like...idk if I’m gonna be confident enough in a townread in this game to bet the game on it, tbh.

It is better than random though, imo

I think the best plan is four people protect nutella N1, a different five N2, etc. etc.

Obviously numbers adjust as we kill scum.

Well, maybe not best, but safest.

(I know there are four aliens but holy fuck if we put four aliens in one group we just deserve to lose tbh)

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:15 am All this strategy talk is hurting my brain. I'm merely glancing at these posts right now.

Then ignore mechanics, project town and find scum. We’ll take care of the mechanics.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:18 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:16 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:15 am All this strategy talk is hurting my brain. I'm merely glancing at these posts right now.
Then ignore mechanics, project town and find scum. We’ll take care of the mechanics.
Ignoring the mechanics sounds retarded. The majority of the posts here are on those mechanics. I'm robbing myself the opportunity to get reads by ignoring them.

A) please find a different word, b) you’re the one bitching about mechanics discussion

I agree with tony

Game.

Mafia don’t automatically win at parity and you don’t get a derpclear

I mean maybe they do, I haven’t gamed it out yet, but they don’t as far as published wincon goes

2 maf one bunker one laser cannon can still win if it’s an odd day. Shoot the first maf, bunker protects laser maf buries the kill, laser shoots second maf in f3. That’s one example.

So yeah parity is bad but not auto lose.

It’s not a derp clear, we’re not gonna be silly about this

is the info summarised scummier than "game game game"?

Yes.

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:01 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

fine.

game game game

does that make me LESS scummy?

Sorry no, it’s derivative now

Mac isn’t in this game??

What a fucking rip off I want my money back

I uh

Actually think >rand Epi is mafia

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:58 pm goddammit ok diz you do actually have p good reads

drago is on the table for lasering but i have some hesitance on him bc i know meta-wise he can look kinda sketchy as town and is more obviously scum as scum it's just hard to draw the line between them

I don’t think the line is that hard to draw tbh but I’m also not ready to make a read there yet

Tony is town for proposing basically the same plan I did with the nifty addition of the protects coming from within the POE

I also think that nobody except Nutella should be saved, full stop. Including self saves.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:06 pm I also think that nobody except Nutella should be saved, full stop. Including self saves.
You know what, this is maybe not the most terrible idea? Except I think this is only a good idea the first night or maybe the first couple.
Worst case, scum would be in a smaller pool as the game progresses. From N3 we can try to save both Nut and hopefully save someone from kill as well, and laser hopefully accurate if we don't have scum already, which hopefully we do cause town goat.

But I haven't mathed this at all. I kind of fear how fast things can go awry, and even if we have a decent/great idea who scum is, it still takes four nights to kill all. Worst case is 5 town dead the first 2 nights which is so fucking dumb.

Imo a save on someone that isn’t nutella is a wasted save

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:06 pm I also think that nobody except Nutella should be saved, full stop. Including self saves.
We'd get picked off too quickly, and then there would be no one to protect The Laser.

I don’t think this is actually true?

Worst case we lose 5 town by D3, we go in with 10 players, 5 bunkers/laser/4 aliens. If we’ve been shooting through POE and making POE protect, we should have something like 17+ protects left. That’s like 4 or 5 nights worth I think, assuming we start hitting scum?

Also hard pass on the top town protects idea, we want the people that aren’t getting shot by the laser to have protects left at endgame

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:52 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:25 pmImo a save on someone that isn’t nutella is a wasted save
Not if it works lol

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:27 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:22 pm Just remember that we need 4 nights in total to get rid of scum. So we need protections available for where we're at. We have to think ahead of time and consider how many aliens we have left.
huh? walk me through that.
4 days, I should say. Nut can only kill once per day, so naturally it will take minimum 4 days. This is relevant in game where scum's kill power is larger than town's. For example, town can lose multiball games even if they have amazing reads just because it takes too long to lynch all the scum. I'm just saying, have that in mind and evaluate each day.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:34 pm Also hard pass on the top town protects idea, we want the people that aren’t getting shot by the laser to have protects left at endgame
Top town may also get killed by scum though soooo

Including if it works, I don’t really care about keeping non-nutella people alive tbh

I don’t think we’re gonna win this game in a marathon, I’m pretty much viewing it as a sprint with the goal of winning by D7 at latest.

If people have a pronoun listed it should show up if you click on their profile

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:07 am Mac isn’t in this game??

What a fucking rip off I want my money back
@Dragomir was replaced by @MacDougall

Refund denied.

Mac is in this game?

What a fucking rip-off I’m suing for false advertising

Hey guys remember last game when I said we should kill nutella after she subbed into drago’s slot and then we didn’t and she made us all look like fools

Good times

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:03 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:07 pm I uh

Actually think >rand Epi is mafia
Thanks for you contribution.

You’re welcome!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:06 pm I also think that nobody except Nutella should be saved, full stop. Including self saves.
That's dumb and you know it.

With all due respect I’m better at mechanics than you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:06 am How many people are in this game, 14 or 15?
Derpclear accepted

Not a derp clear just laziness

Sorry Mac I think drago is scum for stuff entirely out of your control. Sorry you subbed into the wrong slot, it sucks

Semi related I’m saying 1.5 scum between Mac and bimbo

Do I have all townreads on me? What the actual fuck

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] come rectify this and OMGUS me please I need a sense of normality

You can have my townread dizzy

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:02 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:55 am You can have my townread dizzy
Thank you! <3

Reading dumb suspicions on me makes me sad. I'm not used to working under these conditions.

WELCOME TO MY WORLD

Fun innit?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:20 pm God damn it I didn't want to care about this game...
mac wolf?

Don’t think so tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:17 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:20 pm God damn it I didn't want to care about this game...
mac wolf?
Don’t think so tbh

Sorry this is wrong

Yes he probably is but not cause of anything he’s done, cause of drago

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:29 am I don't think drago was necessarily a wolf. drago is just drago

Look at the FTL game and you’ll see why I’m SRing him I think

I also don’t mind a wagon on 7-poster rej tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:36 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:39 am Do I have all townreads on me? What the actual fuck

@MacDougall come rectify this and OMGUS me please I need a sense of normality
Oh u are maphier. Look at your maph.

Thank you bb I feel so much better now

Idk Alison I semi-regularly try to have 5+ townreads within 24ish hours when I’m trying to play a certain way, so

Some people are just comfortable flinging reads around and seeing what sticks, that’s fine

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:48 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:39 am Idk Alison I semi-regularly try to have 5+ townreads within 24ish hours when I’m trying to play a certain way, so

Some people are just comfortable flinging reads around and seeing what sticks, that’s fine
There was a second part of my case regarding why Dyslexicon's case against Dragomir feels forced and inconsistent. Even if you don't agree with the first bit, what about the second?

I don’t think it’s meaningful but I also didn’t see the need to say that. Sorry.

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