The Syndicate

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:30 am @Orekigetcho yo ass over here.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:52 am

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

Why is it such a bid deal for you over how he presented his read on Creature? Is this some indirect worry and defense to your scum buddy? Though you did vote Creature up later on so hmm.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:51 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:00 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:52 am

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

Why is it such a bid deal for you over how he presented his read on Creature? Is this some indirect worry and defense to your scum buddy? Though you did vote Creature up later on so hmm.

I think It should be better if we talk during DP, players seems to be offline right now

Whatever phase it is doesn't make any difference. Ppl can still come on and start talking. I don't know why you're trying shut down discussion here.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:14 am That's not a mafia tell.

Nice try, though.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:57 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:52 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:14 am That's not a mafia tell.

Nice try, though.

Naw fam, it's worked several times on this forum. So it's legit.

It's not just a fun party trick either. It displays the mindset of a mafia member who wants to cast aspersion on several targets at once - casting a wide (but not too wide!) net to see what catches on. "A, B, C, and maybe D" is the recognized standard construction of a Player Salad tell. I believe that classically, one of the mentioned players is the Salad-maker's teammate. We shall see.

The way I view it is that a mafia trying to keep their options open to jump on a possible mislynch that could form without having to do much pushing or tunneling. Of course they'd put a buddy who is being incriminated in the DP in that list, but that's just for distancing.

I've actually done it myself a lot of times as mafia thinking about it now.

And Creature being so hasty to dismiss it isn't a good look either.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:36 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:31 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:57 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:52 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:14 am That's not a mafia tell.

Nice try, though.

Naw fam, it's worked several times on this forum. So it's legit.

It's not just a fun party trick either. It displays the mindset of a mafia member who wants to cast aspersion on several targets at once - casting a wide (but not too wide!) net to see what catches on. "A, B, C, and maybe D" is the recognized standard construction of a Player Salad tell. I believe that classically, one of the mentioned players is the Salad-maker's teammate. We shall see.

The way I view it is that a mafia trying to keep their options open to jump on a possible mislynch that could form without having to do much pushing or tunneling. Of course they'd put a buddy who is being incriminated in the DP in that list, but that's just for distancing.

I've actually done it myself a lot of times as mafia thinking about it now.

And Creature being so hasty to dismiss it isn't a good look either.

You're way too much passive here, I mean honestly, you keep agreeing with Drago. I'm new I don't know how you start your game but that passiveness is not really townies at all

Allow me to correct your grammar here. You're way too much passive here. Much doesn't make sense in this sentence. It's just "you're way too passive here."

passiveness is not really townies at all. It should be singular, not plural.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:37 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:31 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:57 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:52 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:14 am That's not a mafia tell.

Nice try, though.

Naw fam, it's worked several times on this forum. So it's legit.

It's not just a fun party trick either. It displays the mindset of a mafia member who wants to cast aspersion on several targets at once - casting a wide (but not too wide!) net to see what catches on. "A, B, C, and maybe D" is the recognized standard construction of a Player Salad tell. I believe that classically, one of the mentioned players is the Salad-maker's teammate. We shall see.

The way I view it is that a mafia trying to keep their options open to jump on a possible mislynch that could form without having to do much pushing or tunneling. Of course they'd put a buddy who is being incriminated in the DP in that list, but that's just for distancing.

I've actually done it myself a lot of times as mafia thinking about it now.

And Creature being so hasty to dismiss it isn't a good look either.

You're way too much passive here, I mean honestly, you keep agreeing with Drago. I'm new I don't know how you start your game but that passiveness is not really townies at all

I'm in a sort of lazier Mafia-ing part of my life right now, actually. It's NAI.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:38 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:39 am I'm not finished with reading yet but looking at the thread, @birdwithteeth11 comes off quite aggressively and his behavior not really feel like town behavior, it's more comes off as a wolf for me. They way he ask players or point out thinks Kinda coming forcefully. I will read the entire thread and will provide my reads on my suspect along with birdwith.

I shall await responding to this until you post your case. But I am curious on your reads since I'm pretty sure I never played with you before.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:29 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:56 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:14 am That's not a mafia tell.

Nice try, though.

If it's not mafia tell, you could at least counter his argument. But just telling it's not mafia read, doesn't give any type of defense or proof

Because it really shouldn't be given proof. It's just pretty plain obvious, like the fact Earth is round.

Saying it's a mafia tell is as ridiculous as saying gamesolving is a mafia tell.

Rej wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:44 am My town reads were correct the game through, and I am still...oof guys...

So it was clear this was a mislynch wagon but I like how people still kept discussing it through the whole day leading into nothing.

@Dragomir bruh, you don't wanna be mislynched again...it is one thing, but you also don't want to mislynch others. Others won't build up the psychology of not mislynching, but in the end you practice it, not only here, but you did the same on OJ. You don't let got of me, even when I jumped off the wagon on creature as one of the first.

From defense to offense...we don't have a townkilling by now and I rly sus Juliets now, because I am more used from her plays, she is doing more reads in generell etc, never seen someone playing so off and then going like:
"Hi Mac" - nothing else.

Ffs either MacDougall is town for 100% or he is deepwolfing and taking control of the wagons.
Also YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 2 misslynches....Dragomir be like: "I am the most active here, leading the discussions..." tell me why is it so familair?
Oh right in our last game hosted by novas we both swiped town by forming one scumwagon against town after another and noone realized it while 1 obvious scum atleast were known to town.

I am getting heavy flashbacks here

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:35 pm 1. When I postulated that Dragomir was being pocketed by nut he said that he agreed but then closed the post by saying it wasn't a strong feeling. His last post of night 2 was very similar about me. I don't like it. He's afraid of outright calling either nut or I bad.

2. Epi wanted to lynch him. Dragomir avoided engaging Epi during night 2 beyond saying "good luck with that". Because he knew Epi wouldn't be here on day 3.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:27 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:07 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:44 am My town reads were correct the game through, and I am still...oof guys...

So it was clear this was a mislynch wagon but I like how people still kept discussing it through the whole day leading into nothing.

@Dragomir bruh, you don't wanna be mislynched again...it is one thing, but you also don't want to mislynch others. Others won't build up the psychology of not mislynching, but in the end you practice it, not only here, but you did the same on OJ. You don't let got of me, even when I jumped off the wagon on creature as one of the first.

From defense to offense...we don't have a townkilling by now and I rly sus Juliets now, because I am more used from her plays, she is doing more reads in generell etc, never seen someone playing so off and then going like:
"Hi Mac" - nothing else.

Ffs either MacDougall is town for 100% or he is deepwolfing and taking control of the wagons.
Also YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 2 misslynches....Dragomir be like: "I am the most active here, leading the discussions..." tell me why is it so familair?
Oh right in our last game hosted by novas we both swiped town by forming one scumwagon against town after another and noone realized it while 1 obvious scum atleast were known to town.

I am getting heavy flashbacks here

You know what Rej you could better than that by actually not keep complaining about Drago suspecting you or getting paranoid over it. Just get over with it, if we got two mislynch that doesn't mean you make a wall post over it and complain about it or bring previous game mistakes. Do your work as a player and get over with it, Mafia is game where mislynch happens but getting to worked up over them is just too much

Is it forbidden to be polarizing or making some poralizing post? Reactions and discussions is what you are aiming for.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:43 pm Ok dang now I'm worried about the Wilgy train especially when I see Wilgy has voted for himself.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:01 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:47 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:27 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:07 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:44 am My town reads were correct the game through, and I am still...oof guys...

So it was clear this was a mislynch wagon but I like how people still kept discussing it through the whole day leading into nothing.

@Dragomir bruh, you don't wanna be mislynched again...it is one thing, but you also don't want to mislynch others. Others won't build up the psychology of not mislynching, but in the end you practice it, not only here, but you did the same on OJ. You don't let got of me, even when I jumped off the wagon on creature as one of the first.

From defense to offense...we don't have a townkilling by now and I rly sus Juliets now, because I am more used from her plays, she is doing more reads in generell etc, never seen someone playing so off and then going like:
"Hi Mac" - nothing else.

Ffs either MacDougall is town for 100% or he is deepwolfing and taking control of the wagons.
Also YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 2 misslynches....Dragomir be like: "I am the most active here, leading the discussions..." tell me why is it so familair?
Oh right in our last game hosted by novas we both swiped town by forming one scumwagon against town after another and noone realized it while 1 obvious scum atleast were known to town.

I am getting heavy flashbacks here

You know what Rej you could better than that by actually not keep complaining about Drago suspecting you or getting paranoid over it. Just get over with it, if we got two mislynch that doesn't mean you make a wall post over it and complain about it or bring previous game mistakes. Do your work as a player and get over with it, Mafia is game where mislynch happens but getting to worked up over them is just too much

Is it forbidden to be polarizing or making some poralizing post? Reactions and discussions is what you are aiming for.

I'm aiming for scum. Do you know when you start involving a lot of unwanting discussion in the game it just makes more hard for the town to make good reads, cuz it confuses them which post they should take seriously or which not? You bringing previous games or meta is alright but for some extent, you can't completely defuse Drago argument based on Meta or previous game mistakes. You have to either make your points that counter Drago or either have to start approaching other players post which might provide some input. Making wall post for one argument or brining previous game is not really effective and meta is overrating. It's good but not something you can depend on

If you find this confusing (btw it has been resolved and we move on) then how confusing is this please:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:38 pm Dragomir
Epignosis
MacDougall
Oreki
SokothQultuq

Civilians

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:07 pm I have to do drive-by mafiaing today. I will be scarce all weekend, I have holiday weekend plans and I don't phone mafia. I'll try to at least get my votes in. Sorry to our hostess with the mostest.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

Again. Obvs.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:14 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:10 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:07 pm I have to do drive-by mafiaing today. I will be scarce all weekend, I have holiday weekend plans and I don't phone mafia. I'll try to at least get my votes in. Sorry to our hostess with the mostest.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

Again. Obvs.

Like this vote, voting that player without putting any thoughts into it. The wagon is just getting bigger

Indi has been suspecting wilgy longer than anyone so I have no issue with her joining the wagon.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:22 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:10 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:07 pm I have to do drive-by mafiaing today. I will be scarce all weekend, I have holiday weekend plans and I don't phone mafia. I'll try to at least get my votes in. Sorry to our hostess with the mostest.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

Again. Obvs.

Like this vote, voting that player without putting any thoughts into it. The wagon is just getting bigger

This wagon is most likely town-formed. And about my point earlier, you rly wanna tell me the chances are not raising that there is a scum on "Mac's list"? And people deflecting that idea are people I scumread most likely. If you are good scum you could WIFOM your ass out of the situation, but all I see is deflection.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:40 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:26 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:22 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:10 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:07 pm I have to do drive-by mafiaing today. I will be scarce all weekend, I have holiday weekend plans and I don't phone mafia. I'll try to at least get my votes in. Sorry to our hostess with the mostest.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

Again. Obvs.

Like this vote, voting that player without putting any thoughts into it. The wagon is just getting bigger

This wagon is most likely town-formed. And about my point earlier, you rly wanna tell me the chances are not raising that there is a scum on "Mac's list"? And people deflecting that idea are people I scumread most likely. If you are good scum you could WIFOM your ass out of the situation, but all I see is deflection.

And all I see that you're just saying that "I think mac list have a scum" if you think that his list indeed has scum then you should carry that investigation further rather than blaming or asking others. I'm one of the players in his list, ask me what you want to and I will answer it accordingly

Ok, what do you think about Sokoth? And why are you and Wigly defending each other?

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:29 pm I see what you mean oreki, now it's seeming like this wagon is taking a significant lead as easily as the creature wagon did. I'm tempted to switch back to juliets or maybe join you on bwt

Nutella, Oreki and Wilgy are Mafia together I think.

Why Oreki? I feel like he might be civ because he seems like he is speaking his own mind, but he's come off as lacking conviction to really pursue any of his suspects further than just surface level stuff.

Linki: Looking forward to seeing the rest.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 7:32 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 6:13 am

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:29 pm I see what you mean oreki, now it's seeming like this wagon is taking a significant lead as easily as the creature wagon did. I'm tempted to switch back to juliets or maybe join you on bwt

Nutella, Oreki and Wilgy are Mafia together I think.

Why Oreki? I feel like he might be civ because he seems like he is speaking his own mind, but he's come off as lacking conviction to really pursue any of his suspects further than just surface level stuff.

Linki: Looking forward to seeing the rest.

Actually, I'm lacking conviction due not being able to active much in the previous phase, being new here and I'm trying to adept the environment of this site, it's kind of different than where I play. So I can't help it right now and I'm also not really experienced player so It's still hard for me to elaborate the cases properly which I indeed working on it and maybe the main case I'm starting to play here

So I'm trying to observe you all how you guys play

Oreki, if you are town I urge you to name your suspects and just do the best you can to tell us why. We all understand how being a new player in a new environment can be hard but if you don't continue to name suspects and why they are suspicious you will become more and more of a suspect yourself. Hopefully life will let you be more active this next round.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 11:55 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 11:42 am Can I ask a question? Claiming is not allowed in this game, right? So does this game also have invest result, this may sound like fishing(lol) but I just want to know if we indeed have something like role cop or alignment cop. They can't claim regardless of their results, right?

And one another question how do we do multi-quotes?

Oreki, if there is an investigative role in this game he or she cannot just dump their results in the thread like "DDL is mafia, I know for sure". That is not allowed. Also, since it is a closed set up we do not have any idea what roles, like investigative roles, are in the game. We just don't know.

The only way to multi-quote that I know of is to open a second window, find the quote you want to post, copy it and take it back to the first window and paste it under post reply. You continue to find posts in that second window, copy them and paste them to your reply in the first window. I hope that makes sense. That's the only way I know how to do it.