The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:19 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:45 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:37 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:58 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:54 pm Light joke as an icebreaker. I hate the use an emoji there. It doesn't fit in a natural way, and it kind of doesn't fit him either. Trying to lighten his entrance even more. Compensating? Maybe.

Drago is bad.

Hahahahahahahaha!

This post tbh is pretty funny.

How about this one?

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Hilarious.

This is even funnier!

Neither of your posts does anything here besides discredit suspicion with humour.

Underwhelmed if nova is a neutral read. Even more underwhelmed if you left him out of his asking you for reads on everyone who posted, which would include him.

Drago and nova not w/w. [VOTE: Drago] aubergine

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:27 am [ytubehd][/ytubehd]

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:08 am Noone wanna be a W in a V/W read
This is meta when people force to scumread me, lovely.

A wolf most of doesn't want to be. A townie shouldn't be over here asking ppl how to look town for them. Makes no sense, just do you and contribute, game solving etc. I shouldn't be over here telling you this.

A wolf trying to pocket Nova, and a wolf asking for how to get town cred

Let's get some votes on Rej shall we?

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:47 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:36 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:27 am [ytubehd][/ytubehd]

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:08 am Noone wanna be a W in a V/W read
This is meta when people force to scumread me, lovely.

A wolf most of doesn't want to be. A townie shouldn't be over here asking ppl how to look town for them. Makes no sense, just do you and contribute, game solving etc. I shouldn't be over here telling you this.

A wolf trying to pocket Nova, and a wolf asking for how to get town cred

Let's get some votes on Rej shall we?

Why are you not voting for rej then? Shouldn't you move forward your own case?

He did vote for me, I don't want to defend in that case, because I have more of a feeling that Drago and Novas are scum mates here
I got bad vibes from novas D0 and D1 dragomir somehow confirmed this
Novas vote on drago was as convenient as dragos first post in this game.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:53 am [VOTE: rej] aubergine

for now.

like lol @ referring to your own meta

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:13 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:59 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:53 am [VOTE: rej] aubergine

for now.

like lol @ referring to your own meta

I don't like how all these players going around voting the easiest lynch atm without actually serving anything here... so if you have read based on all these posts, I like to hear them

Rej is not the easiest lynch. And there's only 2 votes on him, that's hardly anything. Your defense for Rej here begs for questioning.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:24 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:33 am I hate to do this but, I didn't like they way nova pushing for drago


[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

I don't believe you.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:39 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:17 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:13 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:59 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:53 am [VOTE: rej] aubergine

for now.

like lol @ referring to your own meta

I don't like how all these players going around voting the easiest lynch atm without actually serving anything here... so if you have read based on all these posts, I like to hear them

Rej is not the easiest lynch. And there's only 2 votes on him, that's hardly anything. Your defense for Rej here begs for questioning.

When I said the easiest lynch you come in that too, you and rej becoming an easy target, if I am right it just beginning of game and people already jumping on you and Rej. What you call defense from my side is nothing but you low reason to argue with me or back me off from my own reads or my own instincts atm

Just cause we got a couple early votes on us doesn't make us easy lynches. We just got an early wagon on us, doesn't mean ppl find us sus.

@bold bro what? Ain't nobody making sense in this game.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:39 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:58 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:47 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:36 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:27 am [ytubehd][/ytubehd]

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:08 am Noone wanna be a W in a V/W read
This is meta when people force to scumread me, lovely.

A wolf most of doesn't want to be. A townie shouldn't be over here asking ppl how to look town for them. Makes no sense, just do you and contribute, game solving etc. I shouldn't be over here telling you this.

A wolf trying to pocket Nova, and a wolf asking for how to get town cred

Let's get some votes on Rej shall we?

Why are you not voting for rej then? Shouldn't you move forward your own case?

He did vote for me, I don't want to defend in that case, because I have more of a feeling that Drago and Novas are scum mates here
I got bad vibes from novas D0 and D1 dragomir somehow confirmed this
Novas vote on drago was as convenient as dragos first post in this game.

Right now you're trying to put some theories together without having much to back that up. Of course, you thought all that cuz you think Nova is a good player, but c'mon we all playing the same game here, so just because nova and Drago started with an argument which actually doesn't look have anything strong... I say it's nova here who's trying to provoke the Drago and Drago getting provoke

Yes also Drago provoked me. A job usually you or someone else takes on.
And Drago ate a bait to jump more and more on my case. He deflects from a possible early case on him, but he is still at the centre of attention

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:52 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:20 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:24 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:33 am I hate to do this but, I didn't like they way nova pushing for drago


[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

I don't believe you.

About what?

That you didn't like my push on Drago.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:34 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:23 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:43 am Submitted on accident. When someone is trying to pocket a person, they're being manipulative.

And no, you're not getting anymore than neutral(assuming you're talking about the D0 folks). If you want more either, y'all post more as I ain't about to make a bunch of shit up just to satisfy you.

novaselinenever

Yes, I didn't like the view how's this going, your reasons are reasonable, cuz it was obvious your post was a joke. But right now you're giving your entire focus on Drago... which I didn't find it nice
You already said that. I told you manipulative how. Why did a simple mention of me doing a random gth makes you think that he's trying to buddy me? What did you meant by "happy to be in townreads"? Do you actually believe a joke when people haven't posted are actual reads and he believes that?

"make a bunch of shit up" that's rich lol.

Idk how to answer your questions man. They all look like they can be answered by reading my posts.

What do you think "happy to be in town reads" mean?

Wait what? I didn't believe you were serious with your gth but I think he was. If that answers your question.

Your questions make no sense to me.

What lead to you believe he was? Do you think he's a little bit slow? It's a pre-posting GTH meme for crying out loud lol.

@Rej Drago thinks that you believed my early gth pre-anyone posting as genuine reads. Was that the case?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:49 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:43 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:39 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:17 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:13 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:59 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:53 am [VOTE: rej] aubergine

for now.

like lol @ referring to your own meta

I don't like how all these players going around voting the easiest lynch atm without actually serving anything here... so if you have read based on all these posts, I like to hear them

Rej is not the easiest lynch. And there's only 2 votes on him, that's hardly anything. Your defense for Rej here begs for questioning.

When I said the easiest lynch you come in that too, you and rej becoming an easy target, if I am right it just beginning of game and people already jumping on you and Rej. What you call defense from my side is nothing but you low reason to argue with me or back me off from my own reads or my own instincts atm

Just cause we got a couple early votes on us doesn't make us easy lynches. We just got an early wagon on us, doesn't mean ppl find us sus.

@bold bro what? Ain't nobody making sense in this game.

You're being kinda nitpicking and taking action before actually thinking, it might be small wagon but currently what you're doing making yourself to look more bad, on the other hand, most of the players not even taking part and just there in sidelines.

I disagree. The initial suspicion on me never made any sense. Novas post on my joke and my emote made no fucking sense at all which is funny as hell to me. Quin has a problem with me finding it funny(not sure how else I was supposed to take it), then reaches the conclusion that Rej and I are buddies, idk how.

Then Nova asks me questions that make no sense, and in just tryna come at Rej and pointing out how what you said about easy lynches made no sense. So I don't really know how I'm making myself look bad when I'm being incriminated at for reasons that lack sense.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:49 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:03 am Nvm, It's too hard to get used to this site functionality lol

@novaselinenever Yes, I didn't like the view how's this going, your reasons are reasonable for Drago, cuz it was obvious your post was a joke. But right now you're giving your entire focus on Drago... which I didn't find it nice

Those aren't the same thing though. Not liking someone's push usually entails accusations of dishonesty. About my focus, is there something wrong with giving someone your entire focus if they're your main push? I don't find that to be inherently bad. Not only do I disagree with your observation since it's pretty obvious that Drago isn't the one I'm interacting with, I find it ridiculous at this stage of the game and within its context. It's so ridiculous that I'm questioning its genuineness lol.

You seem to be throwing around the word 'easy lynch' a lot, and not liking how things are going related to a lot of pushes. You're not really interacting with the game, but rather mediating it. Do you read those 'easy lynches' as town?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:51 am Are you talking about my TMI post because I was joking when I said that. I clearly knew his gth post was a joke thus I made my own joke post.

Yeah, Quin doesn't come across as that kinda guy to me. Why should I focus on ppl that make no sense to me? Nova's questions don't make sense to me neither does his reasons against me. I'ma do what I want.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:28 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:06 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:49 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:03 am Nvm, It's too hard to get used to this site functionality lol

@novaselinenever Yes, I didn't like the view how's this going, your reasons are reasonable for Drago, cuz it was obvious your post was a joke. But right now you're giving your entire focus on Drago... which I didn't find it nice

Those aren't the same thing though. Not liking someone's push usually entails accusations of dishonesty. About my focus, is there something wrong with giving someone your entire focus if they're your main push? I don't find that to be inherently bad. Not only do I disagree with your observation since it's pretty obvious that Drago isn't the one I'm interacting with, I find it ridiculous at this stage of the game and within its context. It's so ridiculous that I'm questioning its genuineness lol.

You seem to be throwing around the word 'easy lynch' a lot, and not liking how things are going related to a lot of pushes. You're not really interacting with the game, but rather mediating it. Do you read those 'easy lynches' as town?

When I said easy lynch, I mean some players come voted and afk without actually doing any serious argument, between actives there are hardly anyone who wants to question their motives behind the votes. If they really think that Drago or Rej for the matter appears to be scum for them then they should do the questionings too, what's happening right now you, Drago and Rej doing the questions and throwing shades, and others just voting which actually not helping from their side.

My reason is bad to dispute your argument cuz I just can't make the case by saying "your push is not nice". But I just say it I actually didn't find anything wrong with your post... what I did right now was trying to see just how much you suspect Drago. And for some reason, you suspect him a lot... And I won't argue that cuz I want to see how drago reply to your accusation

But that doesn't qualify those lynches as easy, it qualifies those votes themselves as cheap/bandwagon or however you want to call it. Which is the worst one?

Well, I'm glad it's cleared. I suspect Drago to an extant lol. How do you read him and Rej? The 'easy lynches'

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:20 pm Point out who are the sheep's here. 5 players have voted so far. Nova, me, Epi, Quin, and Dom. Epi, Nova, and I both started the wagons on our votes so we don't count.

That leaves Quin and Dom. Quin provided reasons for his vote, albeit they didn't make sense, they were still reasons which didn't look forced. Dom is the worst out of all of us cause all he said was hated that on Rej. But, I did say let's get votes on his Rej and he obliged which is not a problem.

So all these sheeps aren't as bad as you think man. You're entire assertion on this easy lynch has made no freaking sense. There's only 5 fucking votes and they're all split on different wagons, how is that even a problem! You're liking 10 ppl voted for one person and dipped.

Now vote for Rej.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:34 pm Which one of them stands out to you and why? There aren't a lot of votes on the poll.

Drago being neutral is underwhelming. He's been the center of most discussions, one of the most actives, and the subject of most of your posts. I'd think one would have developed an opinion on him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:23 pm "I suspect Rej, but not enough to put him imperil his life." Noted.

Also, double actuallies.

If I had to shoot someone right now with the gun that the warden was smart enough not to leave in his desk, it would be Rej.

If I had a second bullet, Oreki would get it.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:19 am

Oreki wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:06 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:34 pm Which one of them stands out to you and why? There aren't a lot of votes on the poll.

Drago being neutral is underwhelming. He's been the center of most discussions, one of the most actives, and the subject of most of your posts. I'd think one would have developed an opinion on him.

It is. Drago really real in the spotlight and I can't give a read on him cuz I can't pin down, he's approaching every reply being little aggressive, but the main point he's actually involving in actual discussion with his own ways. I would have put him in town list for only that but I won't say I agree with everything Drago says in his argument which actually makes me doubt to put him in town list. I do think he's genuine, even though I don't necessarily agree with his hasty choices in arguments.

I'm wary of Rej personally, since his attitude from the beginning, and more provocative attitude to Drago response to your finger of accusation. Some remarks here and there set me off on him, as well. I would rather also point out, the way he suspected me, he actually first hand he thought I can be scum with Drago or almost he thought that but later he said that Oreki can be very well third cuz he's being careful with his play, he came to this conclusion cuz he plays like that as third. Any of that doesn't make sense to me, Rej being obvious firing back suspicion back on me when I said I am leaning to scum read him. I'm really confused as to how Rej argument led to that conclusion


@Quin It's really hard to set any stances on Nova, honestly, because even though he had shown some town traits, in my opinion, Nova was trying to low push Drago earlier but he later dropped that, I don't know why? Maybe the argument between them can be W/W but I find the kinda that far-fetched. Drago in the argument seems to be spontaneous while Nova giving me the impression of being careful what to say and provoke Drago at the same time

Honestly, Nova can really be a town especially for all the questions he's asked in early DP1 like he's really investigating for scum, although that attitude deteriorated when I brought it up to his attention, which I wonder about. But it could also be argued that it was a part of his act. Regardless, I do not trust anyone to take his reads for granted, though.

However, their alignment depends on either of them flip, so I won't make a hasty decision due to some vague posts which can very well be w/w or can v/w. If it's v/w more or less I believe it's Nova who's a wolf, if only its a v/w argument. For all, we know it can be v/v argument. So I don't see reason currently to fight among each other with these post... It's kinda leading me nowhere from both sides of an argument and eventually will waste my most of the time. So instead of thinking deeply about this Drago and Nova argument, I should actually also look into other players, for all I know I might able to accomplish something.

Btw @Quin Not sure if your queries are really meaningful, or you're just skeptic about everything. At any rate, that alone doesn't guide you away from the suspicions zone.

Thanks. This was more than I expected.

Also, I can ask 100 questions and only actually care about a handful of them. I don't even have a reason to ask half the things I do. I'd rather ask you a question that means nothing, or is overly skeptical so that I can look back on your posts at a time where the question might meant something.

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:47 am @Oreki show me one scenario where I showed consistency, I am the most inconsistent player out there in our circles, this is making me uncalculateable and dangerous, that's why people spam roleblocks and kills on me or try to manipulate me or force scum reads. I think you should know this.

@juliets, I can ensure you AI indicated questions by me are not AI. It started by me saying jokingly that based on Dragomirs logic it is possible to include that me, Novas and Drago micht be a w/w/w constellation. And my question was a result of me forming this w/w/w scenario. Which was a sarcastic answer to Drago's soft push attempt on me. And it snowballed out of control so people think I slipped. That's what I mentioned all the time, people force scum reads on me and sometimes they tunnel. That's why one of my main suspicions was Drago and when Oreki backed him up basically saying I am an easy lynch...this triggered my radar.
Now I am suddenly bad when I give green reads to other people. That is annoying.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:17 am I find all these little votes to be a bit unpleasing. The most vote a player has right now is 2, everybody else has 1 or 0.

All these voters are ppl that have tried and are continuing to game solve. Long Con, Nova, Quin, Epi, Dom, Tony and me. We all have posted reads and at least trued a bit harder when it came to game solving(Oreki has too but he just hasn't voted yet).

All you non-voters, except Oreki, are looking mighty bad in my eyes, I'm pretty incline to believe that 2/3 scum if not all of them are a part of the non-voters.

@juliets gimme one player who you think is sus ti you and why. @Oreki is Rej the only suspicious player for you?