The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:06 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:10 am Happy new years all.

Epi. You do what you want, but it looks like the internet disagrees with you. The majority will eat your happiness like a cold pickle in july.

Sloonei, you wanna throw down or be bffs this game? I'm good for either as long as you rub my inner thigh with a fish corpse.
Joke's on you.

I have no happiness.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

I was gonna say I agreed with you, but fuck you bucko.

but you know, it's not really a matter of agreement, it just is

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:10 am Sloonei, you wanna throw down or be bffs this game? I'm good for either as long as you rub my inner thigh with a fish corpse.

b u d d y i n g

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:34 pm Yeah, it's a good idea to make players not play the game

when are you going to start playing the game?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:46 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:17 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:34 pm Yeah, it's a good idea to make players not play the game
Phony indignation.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
There it is.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Creature acted exactly the same way last game where he was civ.
Recency bias.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine
There’s not much going on but I don’t think I have a take on this besides everyone is wrong.

please explain

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:18 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:29 pm [VOTE: Luffy] aubergine
This vote was serious btw

sure hope so. explain it.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:25 pm i like this player list

and seriously gtfo out of here with the "there was no year zero" talk

time is a construct
release !

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

god you're so progressive i love it

not sure about the vote though

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:25 pm Hi, Quin ^^ I'm not going to accidentally bus you this game, because I'm town. <3

hi dizzy!

thank...you?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:31 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:13 pm Does anyone have any reads? I don't.
I do.

Spoiler: show
2020 is the last year of the second decade of this century.

staking my claim here that epi is a 3p that increases in power the more people he can get to start talking about the end/start of the decade

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:03 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:49 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:22 pm sloonei please care
about me
You couldn't stop me if you tried.
: o
Dom, I've been wrong about you in a few games recently, I think. Have I been right about you in any?
I’m pretty sure I have a zero percent success rate on Dom.

i tell myself i have a good track record reading dom but then i forget to pay attention to whether my reads on him actually turn out correct

so there's basically an equal chance of me being great and terrible at it

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:14 pm Dys just followed my (pretty random) voting twice and called me town. I should be suspicious, but I’m rather flattered.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:04 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:01 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:53 pm Where's Mac and Quin? My heart yearns.
Australia
That's ...so far away.
and also a little on fire at the moment

understatement of the fucking decade

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:43 pm Dizzy, why did you describe "Mac and Quin" as such in that order?

Why not "Quin and Mac" ?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:43 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:04 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:01 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:53 pm Where's Mac and Quin? My heart yearns.
Australia
That's ...so far away.
and also a little on fire at the moment
understatement of the fucking decade
-
I sincerely hope you guys are safe.

Mac and I (and Glorfindel if I remember correctly) all live in Queensland which is okay right now. Most of the fires over the last few weeks have been in New South Wales and Victoria.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:14 am To clarify I don’t think it’s always a stupid question I actually think it’s one of those weird questions that can get a lot more information than appears but if they’re both scum then it’s just stupid.
I thought Wilgy was just quirky. I love how this is the most interesting thing in the game right now. =p

This is my take.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:31 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:24 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:22 am I'd like to lynch MacDougall Day 1. Can we all do that?
Why do you want to lynch Mac before Quin instead of Quin before Mac?
Mac is an asshole and Quin is nice.

that's debatable

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:06 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:03 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:49 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:22 pm sloonei please care
about me
You couldn't stop me if you tried.
: o
Dom, I've been wrong about you in a few games recently, I think. Have I been right about you in any?
What's the point of this question/interction?
What's the point of this question/interaction?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:14 am To clarify I don’t think it’s always a stupid question I actually think it’s one of those weird questions that can get a lot more information than appears but if they’re both scum then it’s just stupid.
I thought Wilgy was just quirky. I love how this is the most interesting thing in the game right now. =p
...discourse!

like bruh.... what?

Do you have a problem with Dizzy for the first part?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:49 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:02 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:11 pm Y'all should be ashamed tacky is much better than white and nerdy
Are you really always scum?
I'm literally never scum here, catch me on MU and I probably am. (Don't carry that meta over there with you I don't need any pro sig readers) but here? I've been mafia four maybe five times. (And I've won in all but one. )

I feel like I need to roll up a newspaper or something so I can whack you over the head every time you say something so easily construed as suspicious.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:51 pmLet’s talk about vibes, baby
Vibes is nice, cause it makes you feel like you have something to hold on to. Also, it's nice when I dream about someone flipping as something in a mafia game, cause I've literally never been wrong when that happens. =p

vibes are good. my 2019 mafia games were all about them vibes, baby.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:23 pm Plus didn't really feel much of anything when reading back on Sloon's ISO, and not the same vibes as last time when he actually was scum (mind you, that was a game where more happened).

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

Literally just for voting me without much else.

Sloonei isn't as standoutish in this game as I'm used to. That doesn't necessarily mean anything though.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:58 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:51 pmThat's why it's weird. He's come in and made this little clump of odd statements that don't seem very focused. Like, no one was talking about inactives at all.
Weird is one thing, but is it scummy?
This is why we're talking about it, lol. I always struggle to remember how some people play because I'm so infrequently here. Its also why I don't throw votes around.

I don't think it's scummy. sig has his own language here, or something. I don't know how to read him because he habitually says things that can be easily misconstrued and gets him lynched early.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:46 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:17 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:34 pm Yeah, it's a good idea to make players not play the game
Phony indignation.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
There it is.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Creature acted exactly the same way last game where he was civ.
Recency bias.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine
There’s not much going on but I don’t think I have a take on this besides everyone is wrong.
please explain
Epi’s wrong cause it’s not recency bias cause Creature has a pattern of acting like that. DDL is wrong for thinking that Epi is overreacting for tossing an early vote on Creature. Creature is wrong for being obnoxious.

All good points. Thank you.

current reads:

TSP and timmer are town. TSP is supertowning a bit and timmer makes me feel things.

Dizzy is scum. It's.. a vibe. but some posts just stand out in a way that's kinda skeevy. [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

my new years resolution is to actively participate in a mafia game in 2020

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:36 pm Moved my vote back to dyslexicon because I don't actually have a reason to suspect DDL. I felt underwhelmed by his presence, but upon review he only has 7 posts. That's not lying low. That's being absent.

I don't know if I actually want to lynch Dizzy either though.

I thought you'd care more about lynching the top poster on Day 1.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:49 pm anybody else getting some scum vibes from Sloonie? I'm not liking his logic for switching votes or the fact that he tied it which could equal a no lynch.

linki: I'm getting whiplash from how often you're switching tbh.

Yeah, Sloonei just dropped down my list a bit. The Dizzy vote isn't very in character for him (even if he says he didn't know Dizzy was the top poster), and the immediate LC followup just felt like an obligatory justification for not being on that wagon. Now he's on timmer.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:51 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:16 pm current reads:

TSP and timmer are town. TSP is supertowning a bit and timmer makes me feel things.

Dizzy is scum. It's.. a vibe. but some posts just stand out in a way that's kinda skeevy. [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine
Can't argue with "vibe". So be my guest. I'm very suspicious, not just obvious town who's trying to get the somewhere. =p I don't hate your other two reads.

Meh. You brought up our last scum game together which I'd completely forgotten about and it spooked me. That's kinda it. It was enough for Day 1. Sloonei looks worse now.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:55 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:36 pm Moved my vote back to dyslexicon because I don't actually have a reason to suspect DDL. I felt underwhelmed by his presence, but upon review he only has 7 posts. That's not lying low. That's being absent.

I don't know if I actually want to lynch Dizzy either though.
I thought you'd care more about lynching the top poster on Day 1.
I thought you wanted me lynched? =p

i want scum lynched yo

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:00 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:59 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:51 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:16 pm current reads:

TSP and timmer are town. TSP is supertowning a bit and timmer makes me feel things.

Dizzy is scum. It's.. a vibe. but some posts just stand out in a way that's kinda skeevy. [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine
Can't argue with "vibe". So be my guest. I'm very suspicious, not just obvious town who's trying to get the somewhere. =p I don't hate your other two reads.
Meh. You brought up our last scum game together which I'd completely forgotten about and it spooked me. That's kinda it. It was enough for Day 1. Sloonei looks worse now.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
No I don't.

i stand corrected.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:03 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:59 pmMeh. You brought up our last scum game together which I'd completely forgotten about and it spooked me. That's kinda it. It was enough for Day 1. Sloonei looks worse now.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
Haha! I still feel bad for that game. Also, I kind of want to believe this.

You shouldn't. I'm pretty sure I told you to bus me.

I've been lynched and night killed D/N1 multiple times. It's not really worth getting upset about. Shit happens.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:04 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:03 pm Also I'm gonna channel my inner DDL and say its scummy that Sloonie didn't vote in thread, it may have been Jack who was mafia who said that though, I wasn't really paying attention last game, but we'll give DDL credit yes we will.
... what?
You aren't [VOTE: ] aubergine your votes. Which someone last game said was kinda scummy, which I agree with.

The rest of my post a babble of nonsense which can be ignored.

i hereby dub it the Aubergine Tell.

the GIF post there is a joke. You're reading too much into that, Sloonei.

Also, his "That's why we're talking about it" is why I town read him, actually. He's trying to generate content. Technically, no, he didn't answer the question, but I don't know what the purpose of purposefully avoiding it would be if he was bad. I'd be underwhelmed if the answer was distancing.

Fair point about the contradiction. Nowhere near enough to change my mind on him, though.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:33 pm Like, if he was generating content I’d expect his posts about sig to be more open and contemplative. Saying “this is weird” and “that’s a classic ping” don’t really achieve that.

His posts in the leadup to that were both of those things.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:38 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:33 pm Like, if he was generating content I’d expect his posts about sig to be more open and contemplative. Saying “this is weird” and “that’s a classic ping” don’t really achieve that.
His posts in the leadup to that were both of those things.
Those are the posts I am referencing.

Then we disagree

linki: god i wish

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:43 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:38 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:33 pm Like, if he was generating content I’d expect his posts about sig to be more open and contemplative. Saying “this is weird” and “that’s a classic ping” don’t really achieve that.
His posts in the leadup to that were both of those things.
Those are the posts I am referencing.
Then we disagree

linki: god i wish
How do you see those as generative posts?

Who could we vote for instead of timmer or sloonei?

I don't think every post needs to be accompanied by a "What do you think?" for it to be generative. He came to a conclusion, and he explained his thoughts about it in multiple posts. Seems open to me.

I don't know why LC or DDL have votes, really. If low involvement is the issue then we should be voting bimbo. I don't know if there are other reasons, but they're worth a look at if they exist.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:46 pm Sloon, much of your post just mirrors what happens to me every time I play now, which is rarely. I post complete honesty about my thoughts and how my perma-damaged memory works, people find my working odd, I get lynched, I'm town. Rinse, repeat.

I've had multiple concussions in my life, one bad enough to hospitalize me. I had posted back in the start of my mafia career about it on the piano and made the Pont that I would never hide behind it as a baddie, and I never have.

My posts aren't contradictions at all, they are a reflection of my reality. I can remember some players' tone and posting style perfectly... others I can kind of remember but im unsure if I trust that memory... and others I can't remember damn thing, it's like they don't exist before this game even though ive played with them before.

But it's ok, I get it, and it's why I don't get ruffled as a civ much, I understand this very well because it happens over and over. I get ruffled as a baddie though, because when I'm bad I try to find a sort of persona and run with it and if things go haywire I get pissed off because it's a lot of work to keep focused on a persona.

Take that as you will.

timmer, what's your read on Sloonei right now?

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:48 pm And I realize all of a sudden that I'm unsure if my daylight savings settings are correct as I haven't played in a bit, am I correct that as of this post there is about an hour and 20 minutes ish to go?

ya

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:49 pm Maybe Sloonmeister is just scum. Are you scum, Sloon?

Can Sloonei and timmer both be bad?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:57 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:55 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:49 pm Maybe Sloonmeister is just scum. Are you scum, Sloon?
Can Sloonei and timmer both be bad?
I am an aggressive busser, but I don't think I'm "pluck a teammate out of the barrel and push them as my sole suspect on Day 1" aggressive.

I don't think you are. That's me

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:56 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:55 pmCan Sloonei and timmer both be bad?
No. And I don't think Timmer is bad. Let's pretend I never did, cause I never really did.

Okay. You can be in my good graces again now.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:58 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:50 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:46 pm Sloon, much of your post just mirrors what happens to me every time I play now, which is rarely. I post complete honesty about my thoughts and how my perma-damaged memory works, people find my working odd, I get lynched, I'm town. Rinse, repeat.

I've had multiple concussions in my life, one bad enough to hospitalize me. I had posted back in the start of my mafia career about it on the piano and made the Pont that I would never hide behind it as a baddie, and I never have.

My posts aren't contradictions at all, they are a reflection of my reality. I can remember some players' tone and posting style perfectly... others I can kind of remember but im unsure if I trust that memory... and others I can't remember damn thing, it's like they don't exist before this game even though ive played with them before.

But it's ok, I get it, and it's why I don't get ruffled as a civ much, I understand this very well because it happens over and over. I get ruffled as a baddie though, because when I'm bad I try to find a sort of persona and run with it and if things go haywire I get pissed off because it's a lot of work to keep focused on a persona.

Take that as you will.
timmer, what's your read on Sloonei right now?
Sloonei seems like sloonei to me right now. Unafraid to try to put together at least SOME kind of case on Day 1 even if it does mean trying to string a lot of things together that are wobbly. It's better than most people's (including myself) tendency to just shrug at day 1.

I won't vote sloonei today unless it's to save my own life.

I'm inferring a town read from this.

That is, that timmer thinks Sloonei is good.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:01 pm I won't vote for DIzzy today. I probably won't vote for timmer today. I like the direction of Quin's posts right now. Lynching Epi on Day 1 is a poop move.

Tony and Creature are the two most prominent posters not in this group. Let's have a look at them, I guess.

Rather than quote 20 posts, I'll just say I think TSP is supertowning and I won't vote for him.

I have no opinion on Creature other than he should change his meta because it's terrible for morale.

i literally forgot i signed up for this game and showed up 4 hours ago

and im already the third highest poster

come on

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:10 pm Neat, Sloonei noticed the same thing I did about Timmer.

Which part?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:12 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:10 pm Neat, Sloonei noticed the same thing I did about Timmer.
Which part?
The non committal shade thrown at me.

Implied that we should look at me as scum without directly saying it. It's sketch.

Gotcha. I dig it. I mean, I don't, but you know.

There is something to be said about timmer in that most of his post have been directed towards Wilgy and sig's weirdness, both of whom are notorious for being WeIrD. It's not his fault for having memory problems, obviously, but I can't know for sure how easily one can forget their typical Syndicate behaviour.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:14 pm I also have a hankering towards murking Dom's fluff posting, but I'm hesitant because I've myslinched him for this very same reason before...

He just never gives me anything good to eat.

Linki - Si senior

I'm not concerned with Dom's fluff. When he finds something to talk about he'll make it known. That's where I tend to read him from.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:17 pm Is anyone against voting for a no-show?

we've got replacements lined up. but i also am struggling to identify a player who actively deserves a vote right now.

I'm not against it, but I also don't really want to move my vote off you or someone else in favour of a no-show. Not that I won't, but we've still got an hour so I don't want to waste it.

Someone talk about Epi. He's been fluffposting more than usual. That's odd.

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