The Syndicate

Hello guys, people are already techtalking, I like it. Since no conversion happens at day, would this mean we end D1 with a no lynch or will we take the risk to find something.

Also there are many secret mechanics I wonder. I wonder if the secrets are related to mechanics/locations or if there is more to it like a towny turning indie or so?

Anyway I am super excited for some experimental setup :3

Also can we consider the enemy a "Cultafia without BTSC"?

Lynching D1 can be beneficial, just wagonomics and agenda analysis

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:47 pm Rej, what agenda if there's nobody converted yet? Conversions happen at nights only.

Well Monokuma is the only one with an agenda? Something to look out for

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:10 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:00 pm What's his agenda?
Perhaps he wins when the Mafia do.

Perhaps there will be a Night 0 before the Day 1 lynch, so we can have someone to try and kill.

that's my point too [mention]tedxtr[/mention]

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:36 pm My role secret is that I love each and every one of you very much.

Just Monokuma doesn't pull the trigger himself, he uses culted people to shoot.
So the Cultafia has a faction killer performing a kill with the performer being another recruit each time?
How do they kill? it just says "the recruited people basically have to kill ONE player then survive". If that's their wincon then how do they obtain a nightkill or do they have to cause a mislynch?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm All of you:

Pick somebody.

Vote.

Hope.

Stop acting like you can figure something out. You can't. Move on.

Epi = jester
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:15 am
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:53 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm All of you:

Pick somebody.

Vote.

Hope.

Stop acting like you can figure something out. You can't. Move on.
Epi = jester
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Then why are you voting for him at all?

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

better than kicking out a civ

The fun thing is:
If we catch Monokuma and he doesn't leave the game, then we identified Monokuma but he will have a night to recruit someone.
But at this point we could roleblock Monokuma and nothing would happen?
I am sure Monokuma dies with a lynch.

I like how [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] snuck his vote on me.
Didn't you do similair stuff last game?

Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:20 am Coooo! (Also due to game related stuff Okosan wouldn't be surprised if there's a second person we should be looking for tbh)

agree

Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:17 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:07 am It gives it down to all people I think?

And even if it did give it to two people, how do I still know which two of them are? I only see who was picked, not who the rng was made on and whether the rng was made between the tie breaker and someone else.
Coo! Coooooo? (Wait what are you saying here? There wouldn't be any RNG. The tie breaker picks who gets lynched in a tie. The only real room for discussion is that Okosan was assuming it was the person they were voting gets lynched and it wasn't a seperate decision)

COOOO! (For instance. Let's say the tie breaker and one other person vote on Person A, and Person B, C, and so on all also had two votes on them. If tie breaker works the way Okosan was assuming then Person A would die, and Monukuma would narrow the tie breaker down to the two people who voted there_

I also think that the tie-breakers decision depends on where he votes, else it would be a sepperated EoD ability and here it looks more like a passive.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:34 am
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:15 am The fun thing is:
If we catch Monokuma and he doesn't leave the game, then we identified Monokuma but he will have a night to recruit someone.
But at this point we could roleblock Monokuma and nothing would happen?
I am sure Monokuma dies with a lynch.
How do you know this? Big if true

I just guess, that's why the question mark, but looking at the roles I am sure about latter point.

oooooh just realized EACH ROLE has secrets

Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:48 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:15 am The fun thing is:
If we catch Monokuma and he doesn't leave the game, then we identified Monokuma but he will have a night to recruit someone.
But at this point we could roleblock Monokuma and nothing would happen?
I am sure Monokuma dies with a lynch.
I might be wrong but the only roleblocker is junko though

we have an AoE roleblocker too if I am not mistaken

btw who is that in your avy? xd

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:08 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:17 am I like how @TonyStarkPrime snuck his vote on me.
Didn't you do similair stuff last game?

Yes I think you’re a bear

Tony is town

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:02 pm Rej's role's secret is, if he posts more than 10 shrug emotes without us noticing it, he gets conversion immunity

rip

Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:08 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:59 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:48 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:15 am The fun thing is:
If we catch Monokuma and he doesn't leave the game, then we identified Monokuma but he will have a night to recruit someone.
But at this point we could roleblock Monokuma and nothing would happen?
I am sure Monokuma dies with a lynch.
I might be wrong but the only roleblocker is junko though
we have an AoE roleblocker too if I am not mistaken

btw who is that in your avy? xd
Yeah true I was thinking like if we found monokuma, we can just roleblock him every night right?

Emma from the promised neverland.

exactly we can roleblock him, if he doesn't have secret immunities or secret day abilities, but town could win with that

I thought so it is Emma, I hope it is not spoiling me or anything I am stuck at chapter 108 or so

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:00 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:21 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:15 am
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:53 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm All of you:

Pick somebody.

Vote.

Hope.

Stop acting like you can figure something out. You can't. Move on.
Epi = jester
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Then why are you voting for him at all?

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine
better than kicking out a civ
But what if lynching the jester punishes us?

you got a point, who else is a voteable person?

I also think TH is fine

Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:08 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:51 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:08 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:59 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:48 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:15 am The fun thing is:
If we catch Monokuma and he doesn't leave the game, then we identified Monokuma but he will have a night to recruit someone.
But at this point we could roleblock Monokuma and nothing would happen?
I am sure Monokuma dies with a lynch.
I might be wrong but the only roleblocker is junko though
we have an AoE roleblocker too if I am not mistaken

btw who is that in your avy? xd
Yeah true I was thinking like if we found monokuma, we can just roleblock him every night right?

Emma from the promised neverland.
exactly we can roleblock him, if he doesn't have secret immunities or secret day abilities, but town could win with that

I thought so it is Emma, I hope it is not spoiling me or anything I am stuck at chapter 108 or so
I'm of the theory that
Spoiler: show
Junko could have some secret with him and might not cooperate with us
Nah just fanart.

Gosh such a gorgeous fanart, I love Emma!

Anyway I support the idea of a possible "traitor" within the 15 civs. I don't have flavour knowledge, but with all the secrets given I tend to buy it.
Question is how informed they are and this would mean we would look for 2 people atleast, and does it mean there is 3 people to look for next DP?

Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:13 pm COOOO! (Alright so the reason that Okosan is sussing TH is TH is doing the exact things that Okosan would see Monokuma as doing. Voting people randomly and early to see what sticks (starting a BW, jumping on Epi's), hanging around to be able to influence how things go, but overall not saying a whole lot.)

just the thing that Monokuma's vote doesn't count. Monokuma would rather heat on a BW, but not starting it himself

Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:25 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:20 pm
Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:13 pm COOOO! (Alright so the reason that Okosan is sussing TH is TH is doing the exact things that Okosan would see Monokuma as doing. Voting people randomly and early to see what sticks (starting a BW, jumping on Epi's), hanging around to be able to influence how things go, but overall not saying a whole lot.)
just the thing that Monokuma's vote doesn't count. Monokuma would rather heat on a BW, but not starting it himself
Cooooooo! (Doesn't Monokuma's vote only stop counting once we find him?)

oh that's right, meh so much to consider, so you were right, he can create mislynches

I unvoted for now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:34 pm @Rej

Vote Dom with me.

is this a new trend of Dom leaving the game early? lol

also I played with Okosan several times, he feels townish and gives his ideas to crazy town tinfoils

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:58 pm If I was mozzarella bear I’d spend the day acting like I know how to catch mozzarella bear.

dunno why I get bad vibes from you

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
she talks like a bear

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:10 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:01 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
she talks like a bear
She?

fml sorry
just for this sake I will unvote
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Mac got busted meh. Maybe Monokuma and his fellas didnt see any use in Mac lol.
Also I had a thought helping us to rule out people.
When Monokuma has the playerlist, then do you guys think he could have a set order to recruit/convert those?

I feel some people set up some beartraps I like that. Dom is town.

Finally got some free time, tedex and jack interaction is something refreshing.
Let me formulate my thoughts for this DP, I need a bit for that.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:37 pm So I'm gonna assume whomever Bearo is, he knows Epi fairly well so I think we can discount the new people there. But, at this point we should have a mafia player to hunt right?

why does the bear know Epi well?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:48 pm @Rej fam read my iso it's time we worked together

Sloonei?

Okosan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:53 pm Cooo... (Guys. Is it really that hard to accept that Okosan is a sentient bird from the future? Jeez)

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] man he is town I feel, he is too genuine

lets just lynch Creature or so, he would be an easy recruit laying low

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:03 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:00 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:48 pm @Rej fam read my iso it's time we worked together
Sloonei?
Yes?

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
we need another tie to rule out who's the bear

Does it make Sloonei confirmed towny?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:27 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:14 pm Does it make Sloonei confirmed towny?
How?

because she was DDL's counterwagon, how big are the odds first recruit and Monokuma got both tied?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:53 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:27 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:14 pm Does it make Sloonei confirmed towny?
How?
because she was DDL's counterwagon, how big are the odds first recruit and Monokuma got both tied?
Certainly not good enough odds to confirm the Good Lady Sloonei's towniness. "Confirmed" is a stronger word than that. If a player is possibly still bad, even very unlikely, it's not confirmed.

true, my wording was off there, so I still lean to town then

Okosan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:37 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:27 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:14 pm Does it make Sloonei confirmed towny?
How?
because she was DDL's counterwagon, how big are the odds first recruit and Monokuma got both tied?
Cooooooooo! (Well in the world that she's the first/only recruit it doesn't make her any more town no. Because it's not like scum would be directing the lynch off of her. In the world in which there's two mafia it's iffier, and Okosan thinks that's the world we're in? Because otherwise there shouldn't have been a kill yesterday right?)

If Monokuma thinks ahead then we can count for 3 maf already

one is about to be recruited
But lynching one of the own allies can be a good thing if they can win with Monokuma... hmm

I am so bad recently, I am sorry to Sloonei, he doesn't deserve this treatment from me

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] did you kill Dom?

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:15 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:57 pm
Okosan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:37 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:27 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:14 pm Does it make Sloonei confirmed towny?
How?
because she was DDL's counterwagon, how big are the odds first recruit and Monokuma got both tied?
Cooooooooo! (Well in the world that she's the first/only recruit it doesn't make her any more town no. Because it's not like scum would be directing the lynch off of her. In the world in which there's two mafia it's iffier, and Okosan thinks that's the world we're in? Because otherwise there shouldn't have been a kill yesterday right?)
If Monokuma thinks ahead then we can count for 3 maf already one is about to be recruited
But lynching one of the own allies can be a good thing if they can win with Monokuma... hmm
Well if the Roleblock goes off successfully we can assume that there will still be two.
Also if i am correct i was thinking this over night it is possible for Monokuma to "Miss" a recruit if he targets a dead character.
that is assuming of course that he doesn't know dead peoples characters.

means there must be communication etween Monokuma and the shooters

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
Wagonomics

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:27 am
Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:19 am @tedxtr did you kill Dom?
That would be funny, unfortunately, I haven't had the opportunity.

so you didn't had the chance to be trigger happy lmao

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:33 am I voted for rej.

hmm if for any wagon I would hop on too, I would also hop on the Jack, DDL or Creature wagon one of them is certainly mafia

I was stuck in playing Legends of Runeterra a new game and so I forgot about everything...but I can guarantee I am town

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