The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:45 pm harry potter and the goblet is the best book but the worst movie and if you disagree im killing you first

I came here to express this exact opinion.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:58 pm Movie 4 is probably the worst in a more global sense.

But 3 casually forgets to explain the main plot and 6 casually skips the main battle of the book.

Ugh these films.

Best ones are 5 and 7. They are the only ones I'd call really good adaptions.

The fourth movie eliminated too many plot elements and came off as just a compilation of monster battles with Voldemort as the final boss.

Plus it's always bothered me to no end that they completely eliminated Ludo Bagman. Without him there's no reason for Harry to give his prize money to Fred and George, thus there's no explanation later as to why they're able to open and operate their shop. What, are we supposed to just believe that did it by magic?

It's been too long since I've seen any of the others to have specific gripes. I just remember being especially disappointed by Goblet of Fire because it was my favorite book.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:23 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:19 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:15 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:01 pm Yeah I've gotta be real with yall unless somebody outright fucks up and slips or somebody builds a damn good case, I'll probably default to a no-show as well.
The funny thing with this game is we might get some magnificent ties. Because if you're on a townie lynch that goes through, your house looses 2 points. So especially on day 1 if I don't have a good scum read, I would rather be a single vote on someone who's not going to die.
Oh good someone already fucked up. Thanks Luna :P
I'd rather tank the house points and be the last person to dogpile on any given lynch. For reasons.

If anyone else thinks like me, the EOD is gonna be like

This gif ends at the exact right moment.

I think thematically it makes more sense that the previous owner of my lonely spot was an imposter who had taken polyjuice potion to resemble me. I’m the real Sloonei.

My campaign against playing catch-up has not ended, so don’t expect to read this thread cover to cover. I’m in the middle of doing lots of homework right now but I’ll have free time later tonight. If anyone wants to talk at me about key points in the game or direct my attention to anything interesting that’d be groovy. If not I’ll just throw myself blindly into the conversation when I can.

Also lapluie and I still have not really played a game together on the Syndicate.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:12 pm every time i go on this website I get a big red triangle icon in the upper left corner with an exclamation mark, is this website viruses now

No, the Syndicate is just one of the deathly hallows.

So, like, who do you all want to lynch next?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:54 pmYou

Who goes after me?

[VOTE: poutanko] aubergine

I've read none of their posts. I'm just saying hi. What's up, [mention]poutanko[/mention] . We've never met. What reads do you have? Where should I move my vote to?

Is Jack bad?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

That guy eats death.

For what it’s worth, I remember INH OMGUSing me hard when he was bad once. I also remember him reacting strongly against suspicions when he was town though. In general I think he’s more receptive of theories against his own when he’s town.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:07 pm did sloonei just TOWNSLIP?

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:07 pm did sloonei just TOWNSLIP?

oh i see what you mean now. INH is dead.

maybe i was just trying to fake you out.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:06 pm My campaign against playing catch-up has not ended, so don’t expect to read this thread cover to cover. I’m in the middle of doing lots of homework right now but I’ll have free time later tonight. If anyone wants to talk at me about key points in the game or direct my attention to anything interesting that’d be groovy. If not I’ll just throw myself blindly into the conversation when I can.

Also lapluie and I still have not really played a game together on the Syndicate.
I've been behind like hell, and I'm still catching up. I believe in reading the thread because reading people's posts gives you...I don't know...ideas about them.

You're preemptively hiding behind your "no catch-up" campaign. The thread isn't that hard to digest. I am having to do it in chunks, but it's getting done.

Meh. You do it your way and I'll do it mine.

I skimmed INH's posts because he's dead and bad. He seemed agitated by Juliets, Jay, Luna, and my predecessor. I read all these people as Not Death Eaters.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:04 am i don't deserve to be townread so i am suspicious of anyone who is doing so

Town read.

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:40 am I'm struggling to pst what I wantto say properly, I'm a bit lit.

I'll write it better tomorrow but I'm hot liking long con s vote history and vote timing... I think it is vey possible he saved owner day 1. I think his inh vote needs more study too. He's been very manipulative with his voting strategy and his early stated aim to be hallow hunting makes for easy cover for those late votes

I'll try to lay it out better tomorrow

I know nothing of the context here, but I can confirm that Owner was not bad.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:03 pmIs Jack bad?
To the bone.

But I ain't no death eater.

The llama method says that baddies are made uncomfortable by direct statements of their alignment. It used to be that they’d have trouble denying their badness at all, but once that became an established tell folks adapted to it. Now the tell, if it really exists, would awkwardly worded answers.

I’ve read like 5 of Jack’s posts but this one had the ring of someone who was being too careful to sound casual.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:44 am
timmer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:40 am I'm a bit lit.

I'm hot liking long con

Aren’t we all?

Again, I don’t know the full context here, but I can vouch for nutella’s frequent mind-changes. It’s usually a town-tell imo, but that’s not definite.

poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:34 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:29 am Again, I don’t know the full context here, but I can vouch for nutella’s frequent mind-changes. It’s usually a town-tell imo, but that’s not definite.
Yea iirc Juliet (and 1 other guy I think?) said the same. But then there are those who still scum read her so >_>

Care to give me some other reads? Both town and scum reads, if you've got them. I just got here and you're a player I've never met, so I'm interested in your opinion on things.

linki: I see you're interested in the soneji wagon. That's probably not a bad place to look. Do you have any initial thoughts on any of those folks while we're here?

I'll do Jordanofhearts for you, J'zargo. Because I'm ON IT.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:10 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:39 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm Can't recall a thing the guy has posted. That's kind of how he always is so basically NAI, but it means nothing is particularly in his favor.
in which I provide a link to my own grievances in hopes of aiding my good friend nutella of The Syndicate in her efforts to interpret the play of another esteemed Syndicateer by the name of insertnamehere
Yeah well I think your read that INH's read on Owner's read being baseless is baseless is baseless.

Indirect defense of INH through discrediting of Jay's case. Not ideal.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:07 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:55 pm y'all are awaking SALTY inh

still nowhere near CC123 levels, but give it time.
That reminds me. Fuck the button.

Cordial jollity. Not ideal. Also I'll push that button whenever I damn well please. I'll push it real good.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:39 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:35 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:24 pm For real though Lunalee is hecka scum
And I was feeling quite proud of my scum-hunting today.
Who do you suspect again?
INH. have you read any of my posts?
I read the one where you laughed at my joke and the other one where TH was like "I feel bad about lynching people D1" and you were like "Yeah, I feel bad about lynching townies."

Now that I think about it, that might not be that suspicious.

Ignorant of an apparent case against INH. I think this says more about Jack's relation to luna than INH.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:41 pm I think I'm going to use INH's strategy of just suspecting people who suspect me. That sounds like a really easy way to play this game.

I think this is mildly critical of INH, but I'm missing the complete context and it was probably said at least partially in jest. I could see it as a coy bit of distancing between partners.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:13 pm Speedball is a superhero who is like a living bludger.
Tell me about INH and Soneji.
I’d rather lynch them than Luna, Bullzeye or Owner.

I don’t have any reason to townread either. Sonjei’s Luna push looks like a known mislynch push. INH’s reactions to pushes on him look kinda suspect.

This isn't necessarily a bad look, but his back is up against the wall and this is the kind of smooth response scum Jack would provide to a question about his teammate on Day 2.

Lynch Jack, 2018.

poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:52 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:38 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:34 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:29 am Again, I don’t know the full context here, but I can vouch for nutella’s frequent mind-changes. It’s usually a town-tell imo, but that’s not definite.
Yea iirc Juliet (and 1 other guy I think?) said the same. But then there are those who still scum read her so >_>
Care to give me some other reads? Both town and scum reads, if you've got them. I just got here and you're a player I've never met, so I'm interested in your opinion on things.

linki: I see you're interested in the soneji wagon. That's probably not a bad place to look. Do you have any initial thoughts on any of those folks while we're here?
I've given my reads before but maybe an update later after I'm home. I'm new here of course you've never met me

When I went to sleep there was no Soneji wagon so that's odd. I scum read Juliet until last night and she flipped Town. Jay sounds crazy/random earlier but lately he sounds more sane. Jack and Luna both I've played with before, nothing unusual from what I know of them (just 1 game tho, Outpost). Timmer was quiet earlier and when the votes were stacked on Bullz he showed up and became more active.

What does this tell you about timmer?

INH and Jack

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:42 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:41 pm I think I'm going to use INH's strategy of just suspecting people who suspect me. That sounds like a really easy way to play this game.

EXASPERATION

...

This does NOTHING

poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:09 am I don't trust timmer enough to read him as town

Why's that? @potato

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:03 am
Spoiler: show
The following players are ON NOTICE:

MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
Glorfindel
karavalenge

You are ON NOTICE.

(meaning these players are most deserving of my scrutiny for the remainder of this day phase and my vote will almost certainly be within this pool)

now if you'll excuse me, I have some investigation I've been meaning to do regarding Jack.

Spoiler: show

Hey I noticed that JACKOFHEARTS2005 is ON NOTICE and I am interested in hearing about why JACKOFHEARTS2005 is ON NOTICE because this aligns with a thing that I'm doing, thank you.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:17 am outside research on jack proving largely inconclusive; gut research says he's bad

I'd give reading the thread a 2/10. Has its purposes but overall it's for nerds.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:22 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:17 am outside research on jack proving largely inconclusive; gut research says he's bad
I'd give reading the thread a 2/10. Has its purposes but overall it's for nerds.
by "outside research" I meant looking at a different game, not this one. I decided that was fruitless and I should trust my feelings about him based on this game in isolation.

i was just making fun of myself for asking a question that you'd just answered, didn't mean to imply anything about you.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:29 am alright, let's make this one o' dem two-car trains quin's been going on about

[VOTE: jackofhearts2005] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:34 am I really appreciate the general aesthetic of the thread right now. A handful of dedicated Mafia players are discussing the way forward, while JJJ is in the back room with his head buried in the books working out the deep cut research. It's a fun mental image.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:32 am This is a crucial exchange to assess if you are going to label Lunalee a mafia teammate of INH. It covers three posts for each of them, and mutual suspicion is being exchanged throughout. I think the language they use here is compatible for mafia teammates, but it doesn't scream at me. Indeed, moments of doubt are preventing me from harshing too much on Luna's vibe:

INH's "based on my dastardly practice of providing commentary on the thread" -- appeal to emotion junk which belittle's Luna's suspicion

Luna's "But lol, you don't feel great about nutella for her quick flop on you, but "I started it" by expressing my suspicions?"

I hope others will chime in on this exchange. The read can probably be reduced to this point, and it's a tough call.

Again noting that I'm not aware of the complete context, I can read this as a strained bit of distancing between teammates. Partially because the exchange is just sort of dropped here and never picked back up. It doesn't seem to have resolved at any point, but neither of them every really went back to it. Luna moved her vote off of INH and didn't put it back, then later expressed some uncertainty about him, followed closely by conditional support of his lynch, and then a celebration of the accuracy of her read on him.
I share your uncertainty about this exchange, but I'm not incapable of seeing a partnership here. I'm only skimming luna's posts right now, but in that skimming I can see traces of something fishy. I'm not sure if I want to trust that yet, but it's there.

Who looks worse in relation to INH: luna or nutella? It seems like they're unlikely to both be partnered with INH, unless they went all in on a bussing triangle.

speedchuck isn't dead. I think you're thinking of speedchuck.

I like nutella here and now, but I'm approaching Day 3 as if it's Day 1. Days 1 & 2 are a blind spot to me.

I was curious because maybe part of why I'm picking up good vibes from nutella is simply that she's voting alongside me, so I went back to trace her Jack case prior to this very moment and... well, it doesn't exist.

What does exist is this list of GTH reads:

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town

Scum reads in red.

Compare that to her more recent ON NOTICE list:

MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
Glorfindel
karavalenge

Mac and kara are the only consistencies. Three of her initial scum reads are dead and one of her town reads has flipped town, so a little re-shuffling is bound to be in order. I don't fault nutella for that. I am curious as to how these are the names that came out of that shuffling though. I already asked her about Jack and her answer satisfied me in the moment but now that I've got my scrutiny specs on I'm gonna want more. What prompted the initial town read and why has that changed?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:29 pm Wasn’t her answer just “What Sloonei said + gut?”why did that satisfy you?

Because I didn't need a detailed and concrete answer, I just wanted to see evidence that she wasn't faking. Part of it was trusting that there'd be more in her post history to back it up.

Why are there only three votes on the poll? Y'all are wack.

I think we need to have a long and drawn-out discussion of when the accusation of "player salad" is or is not merited. Sometimes somebody can list off a bunch of names in a way that's authentic to their scum-hunting process. Other times they can list a bunch of names because they lack a firm grounding and don't want to commit themselves to any particular path. It's the latter that's suspicious.

Anyone got a compelling argument for reading Jack as town?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:58 pm The two dead Mafia were both night kills btw so that leads me to doubt their legitimacy quite frankly. I wouldn't be surprised if they were fake flips.

Is there evidence in support of this theory? Question is for everybody, not just Mac.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:47 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:15 pm We have three replacements. Everyone tell me about them.
Sloonei is town. Sprityo and speed2.0 haven't done anything yet. I have a reason to think that speed2.0's player slot is town. I don't have any reason to think sprityo is town.
Sloonei townslipped. Sprityo has said nothing. Speed 2.0 has suspicion of Glorf and nutella, which I think is pretty healthy. I see from his ISO that he is the one who already called out nutella's Player Salad post, and that puts him a little in the green, salad pun intended.
Sloonei townslipped eh? I missed that.

I did not, though I am indeed town.

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:47 pm Skimming through to catch up... Mac's focus on the chance that we are not in fact down two dead baddies is interesting, to say the least, but I'm not sure where to go with it . I'll admit I'm at a loss in the game right now... my suspicions have flopped, my thoughts on lc last night make no sense to me now, I'm going to watch the pats/packers game and then regroup later tonight.

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:03 pm This was one of my favourite recent posts. Russ absolutely nailed someone with this.

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:39 pm
1. MP will remember that in high school English class, Mr. Goldfuss once told us about an analysis that was done on Hitler's speeches. A univeristy group had apparently analyzed a large number of them line by line and found that nearly every one had a net "opinion content" (I'm paraphrasing here) of 0. What they meant was, every time Hitler expressed an opinion in a speech, he offset it by saying the opposite thing with about the same intensity somewhere else in the speech. This made him very appealing, because everyone in a crowd could find something to agree with him about. (Mr. Goldfuss was weird, and recommended we try to follow this model for some speeches.) Mr. Goldfuss also lied a lot, and it's possible he made up that story entirely, but the core of it applies really well to some posts by Alien. Let's play a game: I'll post an Alien quote, highlight anything where he expresses a positive opinion in green, and highlight anything with a negative opinion in red. I think we'll find quite a few offsetting posts.

Yeah these are pretty much the exact words that are being signified by my sirengif. timmer says nothing but introduces several things that he could say something about. Also describes a thing as "interesting" without expanding on that at all.

I was reading the last few pages to see if I could be convinced to vote for nutella. I could not.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:02 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:00 am Did someone in mafia BTSC chat ask nutella if she thought Bullz vigged nova.
No, I don't have BTSC. Reread my exchange with Timmer on the topic of Bullzeye. I was trying very carefully not to explicitly say what I thought he meant, but figured it'd be safe enough to come out and say by now.

Could you elaborate on what your read of timmer is right now?

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:39 am Add Owner on most with Luna as INH is scum.

u wot?

Oh I read that backwards.

I’m Owner now, btw.

Mondays are terrible for me and this Monday is particularly terrible. I’ll be in class when the deadline happens and probably will hardly check in again. I don’t feel inclined to lynch colin. I’ve seen some talk about mac but I haven’t actually looked into it myself. I like my vote on timmed and it’ll stay there for now. I doubt it gets changed before the deadline.

Moved my vote back to Jack because my gut tells me to. I’m still not really here.

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