The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:31 pm Wait, 13? I thought we had 15.

JJJ and nutella are missing. I sent a PM to the host.

were they pre-modkilled?

i'm genuinely unsure what's going on. We have two players who signed up for this game that aren't listed on the roster or the poll.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:28 pm i'm genuinely unsure what's going on. We have two players who signed up for this game that aren't listed on the roster or the poll.

could there be a thematic reason for this? @ anyone who's familiar with the games? We waited a few extra days to get to exactly 15 players. I don't think it's likely that nanook would simply forget to include two people.

I also voted for long con.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:22 pm Usually much more has happened by now. This feels weird.

Right now, [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine. He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going, but right now his only contributions have been setup speculation. I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.

Nope. Initially I was confused and a little concerned that nanook had somehow screwed up. I double checked the signup thread and reread everything in here to see if there was something that I was missing. I was genuinely confused about the two missing players and considered that it was a host error and the game was going to need to be restarted. But then I resolved that was unlikely.

Other than that, I’ve been doing school junk today and not thinking about the mafia game that just started.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:27 pm I also voted for long con.

Why did you do that?

His vote is silly.

I don’t object to leetic voting for me.

To be clear: my entry posts were not intended as “mechanical speculation”, or at least that was not my primary mindset in making them. I was genuinely concerned that the host had made a mistake.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:38 pm I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation of sloonei's nature is pro-town in any way. Since it is early enough in the game, this read is more of a town read on leetic than a condemnation of sloonei. I also want to point out TonyStarkPrime's callout of LongCon (and sloonei's somewhat, but Tony was not involved before this) which I think is not justified.

I can't make any more judgements until RVS is over, which is hopefully soon.

PS The submit and preview buttons are backwards.

I don’t understand most of this post.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:40 pm To be clear: my entry posts were not intended as “mechanical speculation”, or at least that was not my primary mindset in making them. I was genuinely concerned that the host had made a mistake.

It's a problem, because you were framing it as a potential game mechanic, when I do not think discussion of that avenue is fruitful for town.

Why not?

I have no real investment in the topic as it is being framed. Again, I was trying to figure out whether or not the host messed up and the game would need to be restarted as a result of this.

But now this discussion exists, and you’ve said these things about it. So please explain what you mean.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:53 pm If you say this was not your intent, then what exactly did you mean by this? I can't interpret it as anything else.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:28 pm i'm genuinely unsure what's going on. We have two players who signed up for this game that aren't listed on the roster or the poll.

could there be a thematic reason for this? @ anyone who's familiar with the games? We waited a few extra days to get to exactly 15 players. I don't think it's likely that nanook would simply forget to include two people.

The intention of the posts themselves was not to speculate about mechanics. That particular post was me realizing that it was probably not a host error, and a search for answers among the folks who knew the theme better than I do. I don’t actually give a shit what the speculative mechanics might be. I just care that the possibility for mechanics exists.

Now explain why my mindset is not indicative of an honest civilian.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm Vote leetic

leetic is my town bro because we're in a band together

it's called LEETIC AND THE BAND

/never forget

haha jk we're not town bros 'cause i'm a wolf

Gimme a read on ts account.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:55 pm
The intention of the posts themselves was not to speculate about mechanics. That particular post was me realizing that it was probably not a host error, and a search for answers among the folks who knew the theme better than I do. I don’t actually give a shit what the speculative mechanics might be. I just care that the possibility for mechanics exists.

Now explain why my mindset is not indicative of an honest civilian.

Suppose you were given the information that a mechanic exists that removes the two players from the player list, they cannot be voted on or targeted with actions, and they cannot post.
Where do you go from there?

Funnygurl, please tell me you are not a wolf.

I go nowhere. That answers my question and I’m satisfied.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:38 pm I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation of sloonei's nature is pro-town in any way. Since it is early enough in the game, this read is more of a town read on leetic than a condemnation of sloonei. I also want to point out TonyStarkPrime's callout of LongCon (and sloonei's somewhat, but Tony was not involved before this) which I think is not justified.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:40 pm To be clear: my entry posts were not intended as “mechanical speculation”, or at least that was not my primary mindset in making them. I was genuinely concerned that the host had made a mistake.

It's a problem, because you were framing it as a potential game mechanic, when I do not think discussion of that avenue is fruitful for town.

[mention]ts account[/mention] please explain the mindset behind the underlined text.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:08 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:06 am Y'know, this post is a bit weird. Mikey is calling out Sloonei for setup speculation, yet when you look at the first paragraph, that's exactly what he's doing here

Care to explain?

It is a hypothetical pointing out just how useless it is to seek clarification on whatever is going on. If it turns out to be a game mechanic, it's not like we can use that to our advantage, so we should rather focus on generating content and interacting with each other.

Mechanical speculation can generate loads of content early in the game. Look how far it’s gotten us here, even when it didn’t happen in the first place!

Suspecting people for talking about mechanics is more suspicious than talking about mechanics.

[VOTE: Ts account] aubergine

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:12 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:05 am

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:38 pm I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation of sloonei's nature is pro-town in any way. Since it is early enough in the game, this read is more of a town read on leetic than a condemnation of sloonei. I also want to point out TonyStarkPrime's callout of LongCon (and sloonei's somewhat, but Tony was not involved before this) which I think is not justified.

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:40 pm To be clear: my entry posts were not intended as “mechanical speculation”, or at least that was not my primary mindset in making them. I was genuinely concerned that the host had made a mistake.

It's a problem, because you were framing it as a potential game mechanic, when I do not think discussion of that avenue is fruitful for town.

@ts account please explain the mindset behind the underlined text.

trying to understand mikey's mindset is your first mistake this game unless you wanna get yeeted to the fourth dimension

i shall keep a tally

MISTAKE TALLY:
[1] Sloonei
[1] my mother (for giving birth to me)

we cannot learn but through experience, Funny Gurl 555.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:17 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:12 am Suspecting people for talking about mechanics is more suspicious than talking about mechanics.

[VOTE: Ts account] aubergine

This is a lazy read and weak justification for not really anything at all. Will omgus you later.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:08 am we should rather focus on generating content and interacting with each other.

Here I am, interacting with you and generating content. And your response is that I'm being lazy.

I think the word is bullshit.

Let us review: Defers to another player's initial suspicion before tacking on his own bogus justification.

Pursues bogus justification further when confronted with alternative explanation. Fails to elaborate.

Ignores crucial context in first part of Sloonei's posts (highlighted).

Awkward backtracking and re-justification.

Calls Sloonei lazy for doing the exact thing he was advocating for one post earlier.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:21 am Here I am, interacting with you and generating content. And your response is that I'm being lazy.

I think the word is bullshit.

Go show me games where players suspecting other players for mechanical speculation were wolves. It is weird because even though I am not hard suspecting you, you still want me out of the picture sooner rather than later. The reasoning you gave is just lazy/contrived, and that's a fact.

That is not a fact. A fact would be that Sloonei has voted for ts account.

Go show me a game where a mafia player talked about mechanics, and I'll show you half a dozen where a civilian did the same. "Talking about mechanics is suspicious" is the low hanging fruit Day 1 play that anyone can seize onto when trying to make an entrance. A civilian is capable of seizing onto this. A mafia member is also capable.

It is a 72 hour day and ts account is accusing me of "wanting [him] gone" because I voted for him 7 hours in.

Hi, I know we've not had much experience together, but my vote is gonna move around a lot before this day ends.

That said, I love where it is right now. [mention]Funnygurl555[/mention] tell me about your impression of things so far. You've said you don't see my posts as "incriminating." How do you see them, and how do you see the people who have pursued them?

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:53 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:31 am It is a 72 hour day and ts account is accusing me of "wanting [him] gone" because I voted for him 7 hours in.

Hi, I know we've not had much experience together, but my vote is gonna move around a lot before this day ends.

It isn't like you are voting me for another reason. My point isn't even that mechanical discussion is scummy (it is) or that your post made you scum. So, either you didn't take the time to understand my point before omgusing or you are feeling pressure and you are trying to take down the most vocal player as soon as possible. Which is it?

I feel like you are used to being able to throw your weight around to shut down anyone looking your way.

I feel like you are misunderstanding my approach to this game.

I'll respond in more detail so we can move this forward.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:53 am It isn't like you are voting me for another reason.

... another reason than what? I don't understand what this sentence refers to.

My point isn't even that mechanical discussion is scummy (it is) or that your post made you scum.

Thank you for telling me what your point isn't. Could you tell me what your point is? I wasn't aware you had a point here.

So, either you didn't take the time to understand my point before omgusing

What point?

or you are feeling pressure and you are trying to take down the most vocal player as soon as possible.

You are not the most vocal player, I am. Look at me go. And you also are not the first person to turn a critical eye on me. That was leetic. He is a town read. I claim responsibility for the escalation of our exchange. Your opposition to me is more vocal than others because I have engaged with you to make it so. I reject this suggestion at face value.

Which is it?

N/A.

I feel like you are used to being able to throw your weight around to shut down anyone looking your way.

This is where I say that you are misunderstanding me. I am an aggressive player, town or scum. I will engage directly with people on topics that I find pertinent. I do not even care that I happened to be the subject of your initial suspicion. I am interested in the suspicion itself, the mindset and motivation behind it, and, much more importantly than that, the events which have transpired since then.

Having said all that, I have no intention of dragging the two of us into a feedback loop of hostility. I fully acknowledge that we are two civilians butting heads out of the gate. I am challenging you the way that I am because multiple points in your posts have come across as questionable to me. I wish to pursue those questions for answers. I am not incapable of listening to your answers. All of the question I am asking are genuine.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:31 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:27 pm I also voted for long con.

Why did you do that?

His vote is silly.

Agreed.

What is silly about it?

ebwop:

Having said all that, I have no intention of dragging the two of us into a feedback loop of hostility. I fully acknowledge that we might be two civilians butting heads out of the gate. I am challenging you the way that I am because multiple points in your posts have come across as questionable to me. I wish to pursue those questions for answers. I am not incapable of listening to your answers. All of the question I am asking are genuine.

before anyone suggests something goofy

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:08 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:32 am That said, I love where it is right now. Funnygurl555 tell me about your impression of things so far. You've said you don't see my posts as "incriminating." How do you see them, and how do you see the people who have pursued them?

right now your posts are nai for me. i've played one game (half of one???) with you before, so i can't rely on (based) meta reads. and tbh rn i think all this exchange is d0™ posting. i'm looking moreso towards leetic for casting suspicion towards you then letting you and mikey tango. how do i tell this forum that i don't want to tag myself a million times?

Deleting the "@" before your name in the mention tag gets rid of that annoying thing.

I liked leetic's initial vote, honestly. It didn't register as too serious, and I took it as nothing more than an effort to infuse some life into the thread. He succeeded at that, albeit indirectly. I don't fault him for not responding to ensuing kerfuffle. I think he's just not here right now.

This mini progression: 1. leetic wants to get the action started.

2. Frustrated at the lack of action, leetic makes something happen. He specifically targets a player he expects to be vocal.

3. leetic follows up on the events he has set in motion.


All of this looks good to me. leetic looks engaged and thoughtful. He's generating content, but he's not forcing reads.

I approve of drago so far.

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] i made isos.

Dragomir
Epignosis
Funnygurl555
leetic
Long Con
MacDougall
Master Radishes
Sloonei
speedchuck
tedxtr
ts account
Turnip Head

[mention]ts account[/mention] respond to my "case" against you with particular points, please. You've referred to my case against you being bad multiple times, but I'm unclear on A) what you consider to be my case (I would not say that I have made one, and B) why it's bad.

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] what is your read on sloonei?

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:47 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:27 am Let us review:

Spoiler: show

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:38 pm I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation of sloonei's nature is pro-town in any way. Since it is early enough in the game, this read is more of a town read on leetic than a condemnation of sloonei. I also want to point out TonyStarkPrime's callout of LongCon (and sloonei's somewhat, but Tony was not involved before this) which I think is not justified.

Defers to another player's initial suspicion before tacking on his own bogus justification.

Spoiler: show

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:40 pm To be clear: my entry posts were not intended as “mechanical speculation”, or at least that was not my primary mindset in making them. I was genuinely concerned that the host had made a mistake.

It's a problem, because you were framing it as a potential game mechanic, when I do not think discussion of that avenue is fruitful for town.

Pursues bogus justification further when confronted with alternative explanation. Fails to elaborate.

Spoiler: show

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:53 pm If you say this was not your intent, then what exactly did you mean by this? I can't interpret it as anything else.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:28 pm i'm genuinely unsure what's going on. We have two players who signed up for this game that aren't listed on the roster or the poll.

could there be a thematic reason for this? @ anyone who's familiar with the games? We waited a few extra days to get to exactly 15 players. I don't think it's likely that nanook would simply forget to include two people.

Ignores crucial context in first part of Sloonei's posts (highlighted).

Spoiler: show

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:08 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:06 am Y'know, this post is a bit weird. Mikey is calling out Sloonei for setup speculation, yet when you look at the first paragraph, that's exactly what he's doing here

Care to explain?

It is a hypothetical pointing out just how useless it is to seek clarification on whatever is going on. If it turns out to be a game mechanic, it's not like we can use that to our advantage, so we should rather focus on generating content and interacting with each other.

Awkward backtracking and re-justification.

Spoiler: show

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:17 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:12 am Suspecting people for talking about mechanics is more suspicious than talking about mechanics.

[VOTE: Ts account] aubergine

This is a lazy read and weak justification for not really anything at all. Will omgus you later.

Calls Sloonei lazy for doing the exact thing he was advocating for one post earlier.

Is this not a case?
I did not respond to particular points because they were overwhelmingly bad (as in, trying to explain how wrong they are is beyond me). You know the feeling, I think. Even the way you frame the argument is in bad faith and has an agenda to it- get me lynched (see wording choice such as "defer" or "bogus", see twisting words to form contradictions "calling players lazy for doing something he was advocating").
I can't grapple with the sheer artificiality of this case.

You are absolutely correct that there is an agenda here.

You are absolutely incorrect that the agenda is to get you lynched.

This is not a case. It’s a series of observations framed through the lens of you being anti-town. This is not the only lens through which we can view your posts. It is the lens I chose to apply because that fits my agenda. My agenda is to promote discussion.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:53 am My favorite part was when I repeated something I said and you called it backtracking, and explained how it justified my point, and you called it "re-justification". (Is that even bad? Do you mean to say I changed my justification for it? That feels kind of abstract and isn't even true if it is what you meant.)

You had not mentioned that you suspected me for Not Generating Contentl that point, so I saw it as an attempt to offer a new justification for a previously-stated suspicion, which could very well be bad, yes.

Through the conversation we’ve had in the interim I can see how that point could have been associated with your initial point.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:56 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:46 am @tedxtr what is your read on sloonei?

Yeah I was gonna get to that, I think you're town and I'm trying to wrap my head around the mess.

Why?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:57 am Sloonei is some sort of hybrid Golden-JJJ monstrosity right now, is this his final form? He just played a dastardly villain in GoC so now he might be supatowning hard

I prefer being town over mafia 100 times out of 10.

I can see how ts account could have interpreted my reaction to him as an aggressive push to “get him lynched.” I’m not sure what his mafia experience is, but it’s believable that that sort of overt manipulation is not irregular to him.

It is not how I operate regardless of my alignment.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:56 am

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:53 am My favorite part was when I repeated something I said and you called it backtracking, and explained how it justified my point, and you called it "re-justification". (Is that even bad? Do you mean to say I changed my justification for it? That feels kind of abstract and isn't even true if it is what you meant.)

You had not mentioned that you suspected me for Not Generating Contentl that point, so I saw it as an attempt to offer a new justification for a previously-stated suspicion, which could very well be bad, yes.

Through the conversation we’ve had in the interim I can see how that point could have been associated with your initial point.

What else could you think mindmelding with leetic meant in that scenario?

I genuinely did not know or care what that part meant. Til that point my interpretation of your suspicion of me was that I was bad for focusing on mechanics. I had not made the leap from that to “Not Generating Content or Interacting With Others.” I would not generally make that leap. Because I don’t think that talking about mechanics excludes the possibly of doing those other things.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:08 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:28 am I approve of drago so far.

Really? Cause he defended you or other reasons

Because the reasons he gave when asked to provide reasons for things checked out.

Do you disapprove of drago so far?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:09 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:05 am I can see how ts account could have interpreted my reaction to him as an aggressive push to “get him lynched.” I’m not sure what his mafia experience is, but it’s believable that that sort of overt manipulation is not irregular to him.

It is not how I operate regardless of my alignment.

False town Sloonei aggressive lyncher

Aggressive hunter, cautious lyncher.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:12 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:16 am Sloonei is town. There was absolutely nothing wrong with him talking mechanically. It's not pro anything and doesn't deter the game at all. An argument could be made that it is beneficial towards the game and lets you understand what could be going on. That newfound understanding can better your reads.

Why was Sloonei being voted for mechanical talk? Ts why are you gungho about it? I can't help but agree with Sloonei that suspecting someone over mechanical is suspicious in of itself. It's lazy and never actually feels like a genuine read. Furthermore, scum use this too much to get by with their fake suspicions. Thus why it feels lazy and not genuine.

I don’t like this post from Drago. Ironically it’s seems like something I’d post but that’s irrelevant.

Tell me more

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:18 am I have information beyond human language comprehension that states JJJ and nutella are having a sweat-inducing tic-tac-toe match as of right now and whoever gets to 3 wins first, gets to join us after killing their adversary. That's how real assassins were dealing with other assassins stepping on their hunting turf. I played the games, trust me.

I accept this as indisputable truth without reservation.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:38 am i didn't like that all dragomir really did was be sloonei's hype man. not in a "that's scummy" or "that's bad play" but it's not something that deserves brownie points imo

also y'all stop getting ya panties in a bunch with the mikey x sloonei stuff it's a slippery slope and not what you want your d0 discussion to be

trust me

It’s Day 1 though.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:24 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:07 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:03 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:31 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:27 pm I also voted for long con.

Why did you do that?

His vote is silly.

Agreed.

What is silly about it?

His entire premise for the vote is dumb. He assumes that you'll open the same way as you did in another game and since you didn't, it's justification for why you're scum. It's meta and it's stupid meta. Most people don't always open up the exact same way in games that they're in regardless of alignment. I'm confident that I could easily find a game in which he opened differently from this one and day that he's scum.

He's either...
1. Ignoring how dumb his logic is and is just trying to create something against you to contribute.
2. Not realizing how dumb his logic is.

If it's 1, then he's a lazy scum. If it's 2, then he's a lazy townie.

This was the post I liked from Drago. I asked him why he agreed with something I said. The reason he stated mirrored what I was thinking but had not said.

I'd also add that LC just got done hosting a game in which I was mafia and did not appear to lend any weight to that particular game, but cited instead an older game from over a year ago.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:42 am fine it's not what you want your d1 discussion to be

What would you like us to be talking about today?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 am [VOTE: leetic ] aubergine

leetic is my strongest town read at the moment.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am @ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1.

The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming out from them.

Mechanical discussion is widely regarded as a scumtell because it's one of the easiest types of discussion to engage in.

I disagree with all my heart.

As a matter of fact, I have decided that I do want to discuss mechanics after all! This post is me introducing mechanical chatter officially.

JaggedJimmyJay and nutella both signed up for this game. Nanook specified in signups that he wanted exactly 15 players for this game. Neither Jay nor nutella have appeared to make any fuss about their exclusion from the poll/roster, and nanook has not given us any indication that their omission is a mistake.

Therefore JaggedJimmyJay and nutella are participants in this game. They may not be active participants in this thread on Day 1, but they most certainly are playing some role, or will have a role to play in the future. I think there is value in speculating about what that might be. I have never played Assassin's Creed, but I'm vaguely familiar with the lore. I understand that it's a game about a guild/syndicate of pseudo-time traveling assassins that influence history from outside. Jay and nutella could very well be roles that exist outside the thread and are pulling certain strings from their respective vantage points. What exactly that might entail, I do not know. But I think it's something worth having in our minds as we move forward.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:55 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:51 am

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:42 am fine it's not what you want your d1 discussion to be

What would you like us to be talking about today?

well i mean i WANNA meme 'til an hour before eod but since that's UNPRODUCTIVE i wanna see a boxing match that doesn't... include mikey lol

Why not? It seems that you guys have plenty of experience with each other. What is your read on him here?
Is there anyone or anything we're not talking about enough?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:59 am ok i gotta ask what's up with radish and turnip accs viewing the thread

at first i saw a turnip and was like "cool" but now there's also a radish and does the syndicate have a root vegetable fetish?

Yes.