The Syndicate

This is a mafia game.

Mac is volume cleared.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:20 pm Falcon has won so many games but the one he puts in his signature is the one where he got modkilled and granted a free win D2 due to host error. This guy is an absolute chad.

It's the first and only game I've actually been given a banner for. It'll have a special place in my heart for that reason alone.

You'll get a Bee Banner soon enough.

JPIC is the town cop.

6 PM is dinner time.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:36 pm Showing up for EODs is overrated. Lock your vote on whoever you want to exe in a few hours before and go have dinner. If town does something stupid yell at them the next day.

Real time interactions at the deadline are my bread and dairy free butter substitute.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:42 pm Currently I have the tiebreaker vote. If I vote for 8PM EST can you promise me that you will deliver a scum flip through your EOD interactions?

No. That would be silly.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:48 pm Any page one reads for me yet Hang on Sloony

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:58 pm hello this is my first game here

so how do you guys start things here??

What did you have for dinner tonight?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:00 pm Not here to contradict Sloonei, just here to be right

You can do one, but you can't do both.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:00 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:58 pm hello this is my first game here

so how do you guys start things here??

What did you have for dinner tonight?

This is the 2nd time you've brought up dinner.



Are you hungry?

A little.

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:00 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:58 pm hello this is my first game here

so how do you guys start things here??

What did you have for dinner tonight?

sandwich lol

how about you??

Ham dinner with scalloped potatoes and assorted vegetables.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:00 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:58 pm hello this is my first game here

so how do you guys start things here??

What did you have for dinner tonight?

This is the 2nd time you've brought up dinner.



Are you hungry?

A little.

Well I just wrapped up a fabulous Easter dinner, you're more than welcome to swing by and grab a plate

Thank you, I'll be there in a bit.

I have only seen the film and the first season of the show. So I have no flavor speculation.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:09 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:07 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:06 pm setup spec time: i wonder if this is multiball

why are you on a relatively small mafia team?

well now, aren't you one for jumping to conclusions

that's office space

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:08 pm I have only seen the film and the first season of the show. So I have no flavor speculation.

Odd. Has anyone asked or mentioned flavour speculation?

TonyStarkPrime

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:15 pm I swear if one more person spells my name out I'm getting a mod to change my username to TSP

TheSaltyPhilosopher

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:22 pm Setup spec on the game being multi ball is the same as flavour spec based off knowledge of the film & series? Since when?


Is this an idea you guys tossed about in Maf chat, but forgot to fully flesh out?


Cuz I don't see how TSP asks about multi ball, and Sloon replies re: flavour spec, and the 2 are lock step on the issue so quickly.

This is silly.

It is now page 3 and no one has asked me about my Alison read.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:23 pm It is now page 3 and no one has asked me about my Alison read.

Alsion read?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:57 pm Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:26 pm To someone without deep knowledge of the setup or the Fargo theme, there would seem to be two available theories about why someone else would immediately speculate about multiball:

1) That someone is on a mafia team and has some unique insight indicating that it's possible.

2) Fargo as a theme presents some unique structure that could be appropriate for multiball.

I don't fault Sloonei for his interpretation, and it seems evident Tony is familiar with the theme. So #2 is fine.

Yes

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:35 pm @Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

I will. But first I want to see if you’ll be willing to volunteer a GTH read on her.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:50 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:54 pm Reads are for nerds.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:57 pm Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

interesting

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:35 pm @Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

I will. But first I want to see if you’ll be willing to volunteer a GTH read on her.

town

Thanks.

I am perhaps pre-conditioned to distrust an early Alison claim because I have seen her do it two times and she has lied both times. But I question this one in particular.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:14 pm Falcon V
JPIC W
MacDougall V
JJJ V

Dear mafia: I am a provable town sided PR. I have just given you four accurate reads. Now you will have to deal with confirmed town Alison the whole of D1. On N1 you will have to choose between shooting town Alison, town Mac or town JJJ. Possibly even town Sloonei as well. Have fun.

I am wary of the motivation for Alison to claim exactly like this in her entry post. She is explicitly wedging herself into a pre-formed town-core via this claim. It seems as though she has the confidence to project this claim into the thread right off the bat because she is comfortable declaring town reads on Mac and Jay ~20 posts into the game. I don't disagree with either of those reads, but it feels like Alison has pre-concocted a plan to drop this partial claim which hinges on these other "strong players" also being town. I question whether Alison would make this claim if she didn't have those town reads, but I also question that she would be confident enough in these reads to make the claim only 20 posts in.

In the Mafia Alison world, she wants to wedge herself into a towncore of her own invention by capitalizing on an advantageous role which can (presumably) be used to appear as mechanically confirmed later down the line (we explicitly are told that we know nothing about the setup. Any variety of a role claim should be taken with a grain of salt right now), and pocketing a few of the more authoritative voices in the thread right off the bat.

tutuu lock intoxicated

I feel like it is a Day 0 read.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:13 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:54 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:50 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:54 pm Reads are for nerds.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:57 pm Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

For the thing you just quoted, along with the setup speculation?

Also my tummy. I'm developing a gut read off him

Explain the world in which I am mafia here.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:13 pm I feel like it is a Day 0 read.

if this is in response to me then that's roughly what I wanted to hear

It is

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:26 pm To someone without deep knowledge of the setup or the Fargo theme, there would seem to be two available theories about why someone else would immediately speculate about multiball:

1) That someone is on a mafia team and has some unique insight indicating that it's possible.

2) Fargo as a theme presents some unique structure that could be appropriate for multiball.

I don't fault Sloonei for his interpretation, and it seems evident Tony is familiar with the theme. So #2 is fine.

I can think of one more reason

Can you state one more reason?

I have good news.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:28 pm I have good news.

Congratulations on your new baby!!!!

Thanks. We're naming him "Jay is Town."

Preemptive town read on Strawhenge.

tutuu writes posts like a person who is barely awake, but she has the most energized avatar in the thread. i love it.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:48 pm Official tone and proper punctuation lowkey scare me tbh. It always sounds so serious. Like someone is scolding me. I am feeling stressed out from writing this right now. I wanna whimper

Do I terrify you? Your prompt response to this inquiry is appreciated.

Regards,
Sloonei

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:51 pm i am mafia.

thoughts?

I'm not buying it. What's your case?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:32 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:43 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:42 pm Currently I have the tiebreaker vote. If I vote for 8PM EST can you promise me that you will deliver a scum flip through your EOD interactions?

No. That would be silly.

^^before i saw sloonei's explanation for his read on alison, i actually thought that his suspicion toward her was borne out of this specific interaction

alison is a very purposeful player, and i didn't understand her purpose behind asking that specific question to sloonei. it didn't feel like a question that was intended to get alignment indicative information out of sloonei, nor did it feel like a question that was intended to create a serious deal with him, so it left me scratching my head. it made me wonder if alison was asking an effectively pointless question for the sake of justifying her vote in the poll, and didn't feel comfortable placing a vote down w/out providing some kind of justification for it

i have no other thoughts about alison ATM

I would have locked Sloonei scum if he had said yes. I think he can say no as both town and scum, but he only says yes as scum. It's a free roll at outing him on page 1 without any risk.

I could have very easily said yes as Overconfident Town World Champion Sloonei there.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:23 pm Someone tell Grandpa Strawhenge what multiball is, or is supposed to be.

Two mafia teams.

What’s your first impression of the new blood, Mr Hange?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:07 pm I am wary of the motivation for Alison to claim exactly like this in her entry post. She is explicitly wedging herself into a pre-formed town-core via this claim. It seems as though she has the confidence to project this claim into the thread right off the bat because she is comfortable declaring town reads on Mac and Jay ~20 posts into the game. I don't disagree with either of those reads, but it feels like Alison has pre-concocted a plan to drop this partial claim which hinges on these other "strong players" also being town. I question whether Alison would make this claim if she didn't have those town reads, but I also question that she would be confident enough in these reads to make the claim only 20 posts in.

In the Mafia Alison world, she wants to wedge herself into a towncore of her own invention by capitalizing on an advantageous role which can (presumably) be used to appear as mechanically confirmed later down the line (we explicitly are told that we know nothing about the setup. Any variety of a role claim should be taken with a grain of salt right now), and pocketing a few of the more authoritative voices in the thread right off the bat.

Why can't I be doing all this shit as town? What specifically about the way I went about claiming made you think it was "pre-concocted" (presumably in scum chat), or that I wouldn't be "confident" enough in my early reads to claim based off them?

For the record I decided to post 1 claim the moment I saw my role. The fact that I opened up with a couple of nice town reads on JJJ and Mac made it even sweeter, but if I was NAI on everyone I would have claimed anyway.

Why would you be doing it as town?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:49 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:22 pm My read on tutuu's energetic openings -- No read exists, please provide new input.

My read on tutuu's initial reads -- They're fine I guess. Consensus.

My perspective of tutuu -- No gripes, read will develop with more original contribution once she has acclimated. Cannot call town read with any confidence.

why u so scummy brah

Jay is town.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:56 pm I think Sloonei's immediate skepticism of me claiming I have a provable PR is townie from him in the context of just coming out of Fallout 2, a game where I pocketed him by dayvigging a scummy player D1 and claiming the shot immediately.

To be fair re: fallout I did not care which of the two viable roles you were. I didn’t need the slaver dead to win, so I accepted Alison as town according to my worldview no matter what.

And then watched town waste a day chopping you.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:54 pm It should be pretty obvious that if a townie claims a PR they're making a fairly simple thread influence for lifespan tradeoff.

What’s not obvious is why that’s the optimal play. But I’m not interested in learning what exactly your role is, so meh.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:43 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:36 am Too many typos.

I'm not convinced. Even without personal experience with tutuu's typos, I'm loath to pin that on someone. I think the possible bus is a stronger theory than that.

How different is the current game atmosphere to what you remember? Are there any things that seem cozy and familiar to you?

strawhenge and alison are probably not partnered.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:55 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:54 am strawhenge and alison are probably not partnered.

if strawhenge is a wolf do you think it's jpic or tutuu

I have not formed an opinion on this nor will I today, probably.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:56 am Although I'm reading this rolefish attempt as scummy actually. Since you rolefished like crazy in Fallout.

Fallout was a semi-open setup.

So far all of the arguments for TSP being mafia have sounded like farts to my ears.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:03 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:22 pm My read on tutuu's energetic openings -- No read exists, please provide new input.

My read on tutuu's initial reads -- They're fine I guess. Consensus.

My perspective of tutuu -- No gripes, read will develop with more original contribution once she has acclimated. Cannot call town read with any confidence.

And this post is just wut. He wrote 3 sentences that say completely nothing

Would Jay struggle to produce more meaningful content if he was mafia?

esooa has not met my son.