The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:50 pm Tequila really sucks 4/10 wouldn't recommend.

Second Hey! Lets get this lynch train started.

I think we should eye people who are to heavy on the role play, it could be used to avoid scumhunting/be left alive out of amusement. However, that shouldn't be the only reason to lynch someone.

Aye, any pirate worth his salt will tell you Rum is the spirit to be drinkin'!

Look here y'all, I'm going to a concert tonight so don't expect too much of me.ive read and caught up to now and I have like three or four things to say.

1. MP pressure voting me is a fucking joke. It's one thing for someone to pressure vote jevwho doesn't live in the same house as me, but cone on. You know I'm not even caught up to the thread, it's not like I'm lurking and hiding. It's a joke, and really easy. Don't get me wrong, it's not definitely suspicious it's just teally easy to look like he's doing something when he's not. Don't let him get away with such a soft pressure vote in the future without questioning it.

2. Fake claiming when done properly absolutely can and has won the civs games. Arrested Development cones to mind, when Turnip Head and MP fake claimed and provided me cover as the cop for two nights, allowing me to find them and out them. Even in Seinfeld I was night killed night 1 because the baddies thought I was role claiming. I wasn't, but it's better to lose a vanilla than a power role N1. Additionally, seeing who the baddies kill based on their fake claims can also help us sort who be good a la seer hunt clear. Fake cop claims can be a great tool for the civs when done right.

3. Dunya, you come from RYM I thought you guys used this type of thing over there even more here. And having heard how great your civ game and instinct is, you arguing so solidly against fake claims not only surprises me but makes me suspect you.

4. My guy says DDL bad. I can't put my finger on why, but in my read my gut spoke and I am sharing it because I usually regret it later. I'll look into an ISO of him tomorrow to see if I can identify why.

Wow don't pay attention to my typos. I'm posting from a phone.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:42 pm ~my experience---- in games dunya has played in~

This just really surprises me.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:48 pm If that's the norm for The Syndicate, then fine, but I don't have to like it--indeed I don't.

I would not call it the norm for The Syndicate. In fact people are split in it here because culture began in a strict no role claiming no info
Dumping rule set.

I find it difficult to see why you can't at leDy acknowledge there are pros to fake claims from civs. They can and have won games for civilians. But as with any strategy there are risks inherent. I can acknowledgethat. Can you not see the advantages that they provide as well?

I am not telling people to fake role claim. I don't feel the need to tell others how to play. But I am disagreeing with this assertion that fake role claims are bad. And I can both believe fake role claims are good and that people should build cases. There is room for both.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:01 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:48 pm If that's the norm for The Syndicate, then fine, but I don't have to like it--indeed I don't.
I would not call it the norm for The Syndicate. In fact people are split in it here because culture began in a strict no role claiming no info
Dumping rule set.

I find it difficult to see why you can't at leDy acknowledge there are pros to fake claims from civs. They can and have won games for civilians. But as with any strategy there are risks inherent. I can acknowledgethat. Can you not see the advantages that they provide as well?

I am not telling people to fake role claim. I don't feel the need to tell others how to play. But I am disagreeing with this assertion that fake role claims are bad. And I can both believe fake role claims are good and that people should build cases. There is room for both.
are you saying my opinion is wrong?

I'm just saying I feel like you are looking at the negatives and dismissing any positives. And they are there. But we could probably move this conversation to somewhere in the lounge since it's really a discussion of theory. Also I read my
Post again and felt it was kind of condescending and I didn't intend it as such. I said I didn't feel the need to tell others how to play, all i meant was I was not discussing what we should be doing, just a theory basically. Does that make sense?

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:39 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:26 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:01 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:48 pm If that's the norm for The Syndicate, then fine, but I don't have to like it--indeed I don't.
I would not call it the norm for The Syndicate. In fact people are split in it here because culture began in a strict no role claiming no info
Dumping rule set.

I find it difficult to see why you can't at leDy acknowledge there are pros to fake claims from civs. They can and have won games for civilians. But as with any strategy there are risks inherent. I can acknowledgethat. Can you not see the advantages that they provide as well?

I am not telling people to fake role claim. I don't feel the need to tell others how to play. But I am disagreeing with this assertion that fake role claims are bad. And I can both believe fake role claims are good and that people should build cases. There is room for both.
are you saying my opinion is wrong?
I'm just saying I feel like you are looking at the negatives and dismissing any positives. And they are there. But we could probably move this conversation to somewhere in the lounge since it's really a discussion of theory. Also I read my
Post again and felt it was kind of condescending and I didn't intend it as such. I said I didn't feel the need to tell others how to play, all i meant was I was not discussing what we should be doing, just a theory basically. Does that make sense?
Yes ma'am, perfect sense. It will be our first time to agree to disagree on this point. Still got mad love for ya.

Right back at ya!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:01 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:23 pm 1. MP pressure voting me is a fucking joke. It's one thing for someone to pressure vote jevwho doesn't live in the same house as me, but cone on. You know I'm not even caught up to the thread, it's not like I'm lurking and hiding. It's a joke, and really easy. Don't get me wrong, it's not definitely suspicious it's just teally easy to look like he's doing something when he's not. Don't let him get away with such a soft pressure vote in the future without questioning it.
I'm pretty sure he did the same thing in a recent game and he was a civ.

Or you did it to him.

Not sure, I just recall you both voting for each other.

Yes he did this recently and it elicited a very strong suspicious response from me. Not because of the vote but because he specifically at that time said quiet daisy makes me nervous, when he knew perfectly well I hadn't had time to be in the thread. So the fact i was quiet shouldn't have been scary in any way. But his response to my very strong reaction to his post read civ to me and I moved my vote off him and didn't suspect him after that.

This is a different situation. I am not saying I suspect him. He did not say I made him nervous. I just think it was a lazy and easy vote. I don't suspect him for it, but I don't trust him either. I have no read on him yet. I jsut think in future games when he makes this move, you all should be asking him why. It will not move me for him to vote for me. So it's stupid and useless. So I can only wonder if he is doing it because of how it looks to everyone else, rather than for what he claims he is doing. Because I didn't come in here because of his vote, and I didn't post as a result of his vote either.

I'm finishing my ISO on DDL right now

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm
dunya
sig
Long Con
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
speedchuck - Posts
SpankGangsta - Posts
NewTraditionalist - Posts
Spacedaisy - Posts
Quin - Posts
MovingPictures07 - Posts
Kylemii - Posts

I am in your red with no explanation that i have seen.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:44 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:34 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm
dunya
sig
Long Con
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
speedchuck - Posts
SpankGangsta - Posts
NewTraditionalist - Posts
Spacedaisy - Posts
Quin - Posts
MovingPictures07 - Posts
Kylemii - Posts
I am in your red with no explanation that i have seen.
Is this really true? I find that hard to believe coming from dunya.
yep. fourth suspect, is not really an issue to be addressed on day 1. I felt if MP was civ, Daisy would be scum and vice versa. She hasn't contributed much in way of actual scumspects and thoughts beyond game mechanics so....she's a fourth.

Fair enough. I'm not scum, but whatever man.

My gut still says DDL. When I read his ISO one of the things I noticed was that early on he was pushing other people for reads when he himself had not provided any. Additionally, his back pedalling on Sig and now his treatment of the Quin/MP situation. I feel like he is hedging. I'm voting DDL.

I feel like baddie MP would have tried a lot harder to pocket me. I'm not comfortable with his lynch at this time.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:57 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:55 pm I feel like baddie MP would have tried a lot harder to pocket me. I'm not comfortable with his lynch at this time.
You said you suspect DDL, what other reads do you have?

That at least one of you, DDL and Quin are bad. I'm not 100% on which one right now, but my gut leans DDL.

That I'm still trying to sort dunya and this is the first time I've played with her. Right now I can't decide if we just think so differently that I can't relate to her views and it makes her look suspicious to me, or she is actually suspicious. I want more time to decide.

That Wilgy is probably civ.
The LC is probably civ.
That if my gut is right about DDL then I think sig is likely civ as well. If I am wrong about DDL, he is a question mark for me.
NT is absent, no read.
Kyle, I am unsure. I feel like he's just trying to get back into the mafia groove, I lean civ, but I'm pretty unsure there.

I am caught in linki hell right now... I've tried to post this for the last five minutes unsuccessfully.

Finally!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:03 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:57 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:55 pm definitely not cool with the Wilgy train, what's this about?
Why aren't you cool with it?
a sudden surge of "lynch the guy who talks weird" after all the discussion we've had today? how could anyone be cool with that

Agreed.

Hey Kyle... don't drink coffee and hour before the EOD.

This was a crazy EoD. I think we are either seeing a DDL/Quin pairing (my gut still leans this way) or an MP/Quin pairing (within the realm of possibility)

If Wilgy gets lynched and flips civ (which I feel pretty confident he will) I think speechuck deserves a bit scrutiny as well.

linki: dunya, your post just put you into a solid suspicion for me... you seem to think MP is civ more than even I do at the moment.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:12 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:11 pm Hey Kyle... don't drink coffee and hour before the EOD.

This was a crazy EoD. I think we are either seeing a DDL/Quin pairing (my gut still leans this way) or an MP/Quin pairing (within the realm of possibility)

If Wilgy gets lynched and flips civ (which I feel pretty confident he will) I think speechuck deserves a bit scrutiny as well.

linki: dunya, your post just put you into a solid suspicion for me... you seem to think MP is civ more than even I do at the moment.
I actually think you know Wilgy is town, that's how your posts are reading to me right now. GTH I'm thinking you and dunya.

You need to reassess because you are wrong.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:13 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:11 pm Hey Kyle... don't drink coffee and hour before the EOD.

This was a crazy EoD. I think we are either seeing a DDL/Quin pairing (my gut still leans this way) or an MP/Quin pairing (within the realm of possibility)

If Wilgy gets lynched and flips civ (which I feel pretty confident he will) I think speechuck deserves a bit scrutiny as well.

linki: dunya, your post just put you into a solid suspicion for me... you seem to think MP is civ more than even I do at the moment.
look at the hypocrisy all over this post

yeesh

The difference between me and you is that you made an apology to MP for going after him, as if you already know he is civ. We have not had a lynch flip yet. I am open to all possibilities and most of my leanings are leaning bad. You on the other hand are leaning civ. That looks really bad to me.

I never said anything about rushed lynch decisions. I said you apologized to MP as if he had already been revealed civ. It read as if you no longer believe he is bad, despite your vote. I can read MP pretty well and not even I feel 100% convinced of his alignment at the moment. So your apology to him sure looked to me like you know he is civ.

linki:

With Wilgy, you never can tell...

Anyone down for GTH reads?

I'm here and I'm down. Anyone else? Let's do this!

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:24 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:22 pm Anyone down for GTH reads?
Ughhhhhhh. I want to. Dammit. You know I need to finish this presentation. What's your angle?

OK, OK, let's do it. Who is around?

You're a fucking enabler though, you know that? You're going to have to live with that fact when I'm up working until 2am tonight.

I don't work until 4 pm, so whatever man.

Kyle, want to play some gun to head reads with us? Say, yes it's fun and will produce some info I hope.

MP will give us like three names and we quick answer either bad or civ read. no neutral reads allow. it's supposed to be gut reads.

Ok, I understand what you are saying. COnsidering me ratcheting back another notch with you. Like I said, I think you and I just see things so differently I have trouble not seeing what you are saying as suspect. I'm willing to try and give you more consideration/time.

dunya, you in for gun to head reads?

MP is making coffee while we sort who is doing this.

Alright, shall we start this thing?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:45 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 1

DRAGON D. LUFFY Bad

DUNYA Bad

Oh, yeah! You are just indicating which way you feel for each person. Just a quick read, neutrals not allowed.

Kyle - Civ
LC - Civ

MP - Bad
NT - Civ

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:52 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 4

QUIN

SIG

BAD
CIV

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:53 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 5

SPACEDAISY

SPANKGANGSTA

SPEEDCHUCK

CIV
CIV
BAD

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:56 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:55 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:52 pm i realized i wasn't quoting, i'll go back and clarify later
Not necessary, I'll summarize once we're complete.
thanks, i love you

Careful, I don't share.

Get some rest dunya, thanks for doing gth reads with us!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:26 pm Wow that sucks.

Sorry Wilgy.

This is what happened, guys: I wasn't feeling very sure on either the Quin or the MP lynch. And don't even get me staretd on NT because I despise lynches on inactives.

So I saw someone mentioned they wanted Wilgy to be punished for his posting. I didn't have an opinion on him at all. But having seen CFDs work in the past, I thought "why not?" and tried to push one on him. Maybe it could reveal us something. I dunno.

It didn't work though.

Though it might have revealed something, from what I'm seeing (I'm not fully caught up)

Want to post a list of GTH reads for us?

Speed, can you talk to me about your GTH read of LC as bad, and also of NT and Spankgangsta? My inclination with the no shows was to put them as good because I had nothing to go on and neutral reads aren't allowed, so I just said good and moved on. Why do you specifically feel LC is bad and what led you to the opposite tactic for the no shows?

linki: We used to have a poll mod that also tracked what order the votes were placed. So if you changed your vote it would change where your vote was in the order. but with the upgrade to the new site we have not been able to find a mod with that. We believe LT had coded the original one for that purpose and i just don't have that know how at the moment. Sorry to fail you guys. I am willing to bold my vote. I always announce them, just haven't been bolding them.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:42 pm have MP and Daisy ever been scum together in a mafia game?

Yes, once not on The Syndicate (American Horror Story on Hedville) and frankly we killed it even though we lost. And once on the site (Romance of the Three Kingdoms) but we were both pretty inactive due to the timing of the game and real life situations.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:51 pm My gut still says DDL. When I read his ISO one of the things I noticed was that early on he was pushing other people for reads when he himself had not provided any. Additionally, his back pedalling on Sig and now his treatment of the Quin/MP situation. I feel like he is hedging. I'm voting DDL.

Here you go Kyle, my vote for DDL

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:47 am Voting Sig.

I think this is DDL's first vote.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm Quin is focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming I'm getting the feeling he's doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.

*votes Quin*

Here is where he changed to Quin

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:48 pm Ok Im still here.

I dont like this day end.

I dont like how quin and mp are not voting each oter.

Cfd on wilgy guys?

Think maybe this is where he moved to Wilgy?

Did DDL actually start the move to Wilgy, not Speed??

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:57 pm And the WIlgy one is the one where I mentioned the CFD

lol, yeah I'm trying to help Kyle put together a timeline of the lynch votes.

I'm going to start @mentioning you Kyle so I know you see them... I don't want to be wasting my time getting this information together for you just to have it sit there not getting used.

I need to run to the pet store. Sato's fin rot is looking worse and Alex is freaking out a bit. I'll bbl guys. I'll help pull some more quotes with time stamps for your Kyle once I get back. I'll just sort through everyone's posts using the ISO function.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:01 pm i just have these people left:
MovingPictures07
Quin
dunya
Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck
DrWilgy

if you are one of them please help :x

Kyle I already quoted all of DDLs vote posts and they contain time stamps.

I'll take dunya

While normally i might agree with that on a Day 1 speed, there was a lot of other very meaty conversation going on, lynching Wilgy looks really bad.

[mention]MovingPictures07[/mention] Enjoy the last time you get any response whatsoever from your "pressure vote" which does literally 0 to get me to read or post, I think it is useless and you will never hear me comment on it again. this time around you didn't even say you thought I was suspicious. Which in itself is mildly suspicious because last time it got a very passionate reaction from me. Is that why you didn't use it here? Either way, your so called pressure vote on me is in my opinion easy and therefore lazy.

btw, I could see a DDL/MP pairing as well, given how DDL was hem hawing between MP and Quin and then ended up voting Quin.

Because he lives with me. This has 0 to do with my role, or even his alignment. Why does no one find it weird that a spouse puts a pressure vote on someone knowing full well if they have had time to be in the thread or not. If you lived with someone who was playing, and knew for a fact they have not been in the thread, would you put a pressure vote on them? how does a pressure vote get me in here? It doesn't. I am affected by it literally not at all. Thus I find it ridiculous, useless and easy. Pressure vote someone who you don't know if has been in the thread, sure. That makes sense.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:33 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 amIt was weird, you live with her, you know exactly how busy she is or isn't, you're not an appropriate player to be putting down a pressure vote on her. It's FAKE.

I missed you said that. Thanks for being the one person to get what I'm saying.

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