The Syndicate

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:17 pm I just tried to “Like” nutella’s post but realized that function isn’t available on Syndicate for at least another few years

Ooh, I too would like this feature on the syndicate.

I've looked into it before, have yet to find the extension for it.

Zephyrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:40 am

Spoiler: show

Zephyrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:04 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:48 pm

Zephyrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:18 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:56 pm

Zephyrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:00 pm
lapluie. If I'm going to be lynched on the grounds that I'm not contributing, let's not pretend I'm the only one.
[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

I can only conclude from this that you have no suspects.

Yeah. I'm never any good on day one.
I guess it's time to work on that, though.

What do you base your D1 votes on?

Well, I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking, and then I'll vote for the person who seems scummiest or whose lynch will yield the most information.

Choutas wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:51 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:43 pm Yeah I don't suspect zephyrus but if y'all wanna bite Epi's bait I'm watching

Why don't you suspect him? Wasn't that a weird ass post? I posted the same thing as scum last game and everybody called my bullshit.
He's suss as sin.

I've explained that I was busy with exams. All I did was make a post hyping up the thread and showing that I'm alive. It's hardly suss as sin.
And, if you're talking about me voting lapluie, read above.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:37 pm Wow could you at least @ me if ur gonna lynch me zyph thx

Sorry.

I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking
I lol’d. Good one, even though I’m sure this isn’t a joke.

Do you feel like your lynch of lapluie is getting him talking? Right now it appears that you ordered Haricots Verts with the expectation of cake and when the green beans show up you just nod and continue patiently waiting on your cake.

I just thought I'd give them a little more time. Chill.
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.

Um what? Why does she need to answer quick? What does her answer have to do with you getting into loads of trouble? What kind of trouble are you referring to? Do not like this post.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:13 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:59 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:02 pm My second suspect is Golden. I think he's posturing.

We’re mindmelding this game!

Like nice haircut man

Scotty again voices suspicions of Golden but fails to act on them.

I already said I wasn’t voting golden today

I have to agree with Colin on this one my man. you came up after Golden hard core, like riding in on Epi's case. But you didn't place a vote there. Suspicious as hell. Looks like someone who knows Golden will flip civ. Push that wagon right along, but don't actually take part in it.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:10 pm [VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

That was fake and she's bad and maybe lap's teammate

nutella you are one of two things right now. Either scum or someone who is letting their opinion of me be colored by what happened in the genius. Either way, i don't give a shit if you agree with my assessment or not or what you think about my posts.

Current Reads:

Slight town:
Golden
INH
lap
Mac
Colin

Undecided:
sig
Quin
luna
Kyle
choutas
sig
TH
Epi

slight bad:
Zeph
Scotty
nutella

Linki [mention]Golden[/mention] Don't get caught up in a no u. I think INH is a civ. He's reading your meta talk as a baddie trying to mislead, which is not how I read it.

I'm not sure if I feel Scotty and Zeph both bad. Unless it was distancing. It's easy to place a distance vote on Day 1. Especially if you know your vote isn't staying put.

Tell me what your thoughts are on choutas. I have no thoughts developed there yet.

That was supposed to be [mention]Scotty[/mention]

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:17 pm Golden, you can say “this is my town meta” all you want, but it doesn’t mean much and to my eyes you are acting differently than in previous games where I played you and you were town. I don’t recall you being a D1 lynch in either AG or U-Pick, I don’t recall you reacting to suspicions so severely and I don’t recall you labeling half the game with scumreads right out the gate.

Seriously, Golden hard core did a no u in U-Pick. How do you not recall that? he and dunya got heated in Day 1. Golden reacts when he feels railroaded as a civ by bs accusations and that's what I think I'm seeing here too.

I don't disagree that any defense using meta is silly. if you know your meta well enough to use it as a defense, then you know it well enough to fake it. The only meta that can be considered is one the player is not aware of. So I don't take into account his meta defense. I do however take into account his behavior, which reads frustrated civ to me. I could totally be wrong, lol, I always have a fear Golden can fool me and I will be too sure of myself.

Is this a question about Scotty or golden?

I'm going to ISO Scotty really quick.

Ok, after an ISO of Scotty, I found him all over the place. Yet the only person he doggedly pursued with questioning was Golden and he never had his vote on Golden. And that line of questioning with Golden felt like something more intended to get Golden's feathers ruffled than t o really hunt scum. It just doesn't sit well with me. I don't normally have a problem with someone's vote being all over the place in Day 1. Pressure voting is a real and useful thing at times when done properly. but Scotty almost never accompanied his votes with any real accusations or pressure. It feels fake. If he legitimately suspected Golden, why not vote for him. That is what I keep coming back to.

I'll ISO Golden next [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:51 pm and honestly the random assumption that my suspicion of you is based on a personal grudge looks even more suspicious to me. like, acknowledge that my perspective can be valid and make a reasonable attempt to refute my assertion that your statement was fake, don't just wave it off and discredit my accusation

It wasn't fake, it was my thoughts as I read that post. I don't care if you like or agree. But there is no proof to convince you of whether or not it is fake and I don't care to waste my time trying. I have better things to do, like hunt scum. And frankly, you saying you don't have some kind of impression of me due to Genius only serves to convince me you are bad, beacuse that was a weak ass accusation. you had already decided to vote me before I started posting and you then grasped onto the one post I made with the simple statment that what I said was fake (no reason to back this up or say why you think it is fake) and that I was teammates with lap? I said nothing about lap, I was questioning Zeph. I don't believe you are town.

Also, I will dismiss your accusations as much as I please. If it's a stupid reason to vote for me, I'm under no obligation to do anything. I'm playing to catch scum not waste my time defending against someone I'm not convinced is civ to begin with. bring a real case and I might actually address it. until then, nah.

It's not random, you used it against me in the last game I played against you. And you were wrong then. Just like you are here.

The only reason my vote isn't on you right now is because the last time I suspected you I was wrong. But then, my suspicious were based on your connections with Elo, this time it's all you.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:51 pm Just a quick reminder whatever you do don't complain to dunya, you might get thrown back in time or something.

Take no chances
Trust no mods
That's my new motto

and that's why you should vote for me night 1 A candidate you can trust when even the mods might be bad.

That's a funny joke, but I really hated motel room's role for this reason.

I hope no one is ever hesitant or discouraged from reaching out to the mod on duty.

Speaking as an Admin right now: For the record, the role slipped by the Mod before the game was already ongoing. It was an oversight, and it will never happen again. Mods are not a game strategy or mechanic. They are there to keep the game healthy and the community positive.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:27 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:22 pm Ohhhhh zeph played in UPick!! I forgot.

Yeah, that’s fine then.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

This was rather my point.

If you can't even remember he played U-Pick and I don't know what affiliation he was, why is his quietness suspicious if he wasn't bad in that game?

This is the only post by Golden that gives me real pause. Let's look at why Scotty voted Zeph first...

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:22 pm Ohhhhh zeph played in UPick!! I forgot.

Yeah, that’s fine then.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

Before he moved to Zeph his vote was on me, it would seem he was only voting for someone who hadn't posted, I could have at most had one post at that point. So Scotty's vote had nothing to do with Zeph's alignment. Golden's question is irrelevant. I just can't decided if he was just lost in the conversation that was going on, or protecting Zeph.

I still lean town, but this is probably my only hesitation about Golden.

Oh really, nutella?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:04 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:00 pm I see your post INH.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

I could vote for daisy. I'll give her a chance to get her foot in the door but I don't like that she's been hanging back so far.

INH and sig both look good imo/I agree with them on a lot so far

Lap.... idk she's an enigma. As are Luna and Choutas. Post more friendos

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:10 pm [VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

That was fake and she's bad and maybe lap's teammate

You were shading me before I was even actually playing the game. What a shock that you voted me with my first actual post I made. Not to mention how weak your vote was.

I don't like the INH train. I'm voting Scotty. I would be much more comfortable lynching Scotty.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

That answers my question of the one thing that concerned me Goldne. regarding your messed up quote above, was it you saying you don't know if you trust me yet? the quote says TH, so I'm unclear.

Not ignoring you sig, you were actually next on my ISO list.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:26 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:19 pm That answers my question of the one thing that concerned me Goldne. regarding your messed up quote above, was it you saying you don't know if you trust me yet? the quote says TH, so I'm unclear.

Yeah but I haven’t really read your recent posts yet.

Getting a townie vibe today but wasn’t earlier in the game.

I literally wasn't in here until today aside from my one post to say something technical about the boards. So I'm unsure what you mean by this.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:30 pm Spacedaisy is the key.

That would a first.

Explain to me the Quin/Scotty connection you see please [mention]Golden[/mention]

Linki: And my single post in this game before my post that nutella jumped all over was from Day 0. So explain to me how it is either incorrect or time zones. Neither fits.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:40 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 pm Explain to me the Quin/Scotty connection you see please Golden

Linki: And my single post in this game before my post that nutella jumped all over was from Day 0. So explain to me how it is either incorrect or time zones. Neither fits.

I can’t iso on my phone. Maybe I have you conflated with someone else.

Alright, fair enough.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:53 pm I think it's Daisy.

You think I'm bad?

Can't believe people are buying into nutella's bullshit.

When the fuck did I say I couldn't contribute much??

I never ever said I wouldn't be contributing much. You are building a completely false narrative here. I've been doing ISO's and playing the game, so where are you getting this idea that I came into a team chat and said I wouldn't be contributing?

I am not being bussed by mafia teammates because I am not mafia.

INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:13 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.

I will take your suggestion under advisement but given I have no reason at all to trust you I will take it with a grain of salt and also note that you call it wrong like you know my alignment.

No, I call it that as someone who has tentatively thought you were town up until now because I liked what I saw from you.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:36 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:30 pm two thoughts:

this is the most active space daisy that I've seen in many moons and for that reason I feel like trusting her

thought #2, this is also true about INH

I think Daisy’s defence of inh goes beyond thread knowledge. I dunno whether I svhould trust it or not but for now I am.

Even if it’s not, I’m not sure if daisy would do that when bad.

I have no information, I am just going on my gut reads about everyone. Strictly my opinions.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt Golden re:Scotty, though I don't know that I'm convinced.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:13 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.

Ah I see you did expand on why you’d vote me over INH.

But here’s the thing: I already made that observation and also agree that civ metas are not a basis for defense. Your gripe with me seems to be that I didn’t vote golden and put my money where my mouth is. I guess. So to call INH civ because he had the same idea I had is harrowing. If I had just voted golden, would you have looked to vote INh over me if you had the option at the time, considering he made all those observations in a large block post later in the day?

Scotty, you didn't just express some vague suspicion, you seemed to be going after Golden, to the point it looked to me like youw ere trying to get him worked up, rather than look for real scum. And then you didn't vote him. No, I would not do that. And I think it is a legitimate reason to suspect you. And I think Colin is civ, sio yeah I'm guessing we're teammates. But I won't know that for sure until the game is over.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:13 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm INH reads like someone who takes issue with someone using meta as a defense. He's not wrong. Meta is a shit reason to be dissuaded to vote from someone. If you know your meta well enough to use it to defend yourself then what's to say you couldn't use it to trick us into thinking you are civ? I think INH is just focusing on the wrong thing. He is focusing on a shit defense, and letting it blind him to your overall tone and behavior. I don't think INH is bad. I think you guys are civ on civ.

Mac: It's ridiculous and wrong. Do better.

Ah I see you did expand on why you’d vote me over INH.

But here’s the thing: I already made that observation and also agree that civ metas are not a basis for defense. Your gripe with me seems to be that I didn’t vote golden and put my money where my mouth is. I guess. So to call INH civ because he had the same idea I had is harrowing. If I had just voted golden, would you have looked to vote INh over me if you had the option at the time, considering he made all those observations in a large block post later in the day?

Also, I meant to say I ahve no idea what anything I said about INH has anything to do with you. At all. I don't suspect INH because I can understand where he is coming from, I just think he is wrong. I found you suspect because your words didn't line up with your actions. That is suspicious to me.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:52 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:21 amWhy is that trustworthy? I read her last scum game that she linked to in GoC and she was pretty active in that game too.

idk i just feel a genuine sense of active game solving from spacedaisy. She's making big giant posts that I sometimes end up skimming cus she's put so much thought into them, that's something I associate witb civ space daisy

Big difference here than what I’m used to is her duraflame fire that hasn’t burned out. I don’t know what it means.

I dont either? do you mean that she seems less fatigued?

I so love you right now Kyle, lol. Apparently you can read me.

I love drunk mafia, lol. I already think you’re town Colin.

Don’t apologize. Drunk mafia is the best. You are town, so any gth wolf reads?

Will do, thanks for some quick reads though.

Don’t leave the site forever though!

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:11 am There should be a motive.

“Your words don’t line up with your actions and I think the reason why is because...”

Otherwise the observation is empty. You find baddie conduct in nefarious motive, not something being odd.

Besides, when I said scotty is 100% town I meant it. If you think I’m town then you should not suspect Scotty either. I have no reason to make this up when I was after him half the day.

Look I’m not going after Scotty because you vouched for him. That was enough for me. The reason I’m still discussing what I saw as suspicious is because he’s turning into case against me. Golden if you can’t see my cig game then just Lynch’s he tomorrow. You’re not getting any flips anyway and at thee d of the game then we can talk. Because I have not done anything that should even be a case. I am town.

I can’t believe you of all people are buying into it.

I’m going to leave the thread for now because this has been an exceedingly frustrating game day for me and I’ve wanted to swear at pretty much everyone here except Colin and Kyle. And the worst part is with no flips this is how my whole damn game is going to go. There is no way to show you how fucking wrong you all are.

Read my defense of INH how you want, my gut says it’s civ INH. That’s it. You can continue going on about it, it won’t change it. I’ve been nothing but 100% honest about my thoughts and opinions and all I’ve got to skip for it is a bunch of bullshit accusations. I’m completely baffled by how about 90% of the players in this game are behaving. Whatever.

I understand how mafia works but let’s review the only cases that have been brought against me

Nutella: this is fake and she’s bad.
Quin: agree
Mac: daisy must’ve told her baddie teammates in their chat that she can’t contribute so they should bus her.
Scotty: It’s weird to find it suspicious that I didn’t vote for the person I was badgering most of the day
Someone else I can’t remember: Daisy is upset because she is scum that got caught for the wrong reasons.

These are literally the worst cases I’ve ever seen on me. Ever. And if I am upset it’s because I’ve felt like a lot of you that I expected to see those cases for the sheer ridiculousness that they are did, did not see it.

But whatever, I’m done talking about this. Unless someone has something worthwhile to discuss with me about some suspicion they have. Otherwise I’m moving on.

Golden, I didn’t actually read that part from INH when I first said I believed he was town. Normally I would say no blackmailing a vote is not civilian minded. However, even after you mentioned it the first time and I saw it my mind wasn’t changed. Because it’s not just, “would a civ do this?” It’s “Would a civ INH do this?” I could very easily see it. It’s INH. I would be more inclined to think he would do it as a civ than a baddie. Though I could see it either way. I don’t find him more suspicious because of it anyway.

Because your drunk okay is indistinguishable from your sober play. Wait, do you play sober?

A goal?

Golden, I think you will trust me fully soon.

I’m confused, did I miss where we are supposed to send in destinations?

Ah well I didn’t do that. I’ll vote for you sig.

I’m a vote you don’t have to reciprocate, lol. Because I didn’t catch everything when I signed up.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:13 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:54 pm I’m a vote you don’t have to reciprocate, lol. Because I didn’t catch everything when I signed up.

You can stay with me Daisy. I picked a lovely place to stay in like a future oasis thingy

I’m down.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:13 pm Actually sorry I am gonna massively decrease the level of care I have here. I am feeling too much anger and it makes me feel like an idiot.

I was too but I chatted with dunya. She helped with that. Also I’m very fond of you. Just thought it’d be nice to know.

I suspect nutella’s Disappearance is a frame job intended to get me lynched. Golden, do you trust me now that the night is over?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:40 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:50 am ok so what are the proposed facts involved here?

quin says mechanically that sig and inh are not teammates

golden says mechanically or (spiritually?) that sig is not mafia

also inh is claiming that quin is pressuring him into roleclaiming, for some reason?

is this much correct?

You and I should form the Alliance of the Uninformed with Spacedaisy. What say you?

I would love this more than words express.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:47 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:09 am Hey, sig...

Quin is coming for your wig.

Bad quin Bad boy.


Though I agree with those who say Quin is town, don't see mafia quin doing that.

Not sure how I feel about Daisy preemptive defense about being framed through Nutella's disappearance

If you haven’t picked up yet, I’m putting my thoughts out there fairly unfiltered. That was my immediate thought when I saw the post. Right or wrong that was my knee jerk reaction to that. Someone else pointed out it could’ve been because of her claim of having a cool role too. All I know is she went after me Day 1 and I’m not bad, so if you were in my shoes how would you view that kill?

I’m not worked up at this point. I’m waiting. There is something I want to see before I weigh in today.