The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:10 pm I, Skeletor, would defeat Blooper, because Skeletor can do this:



Read the rules people. That's how Pokemon got lost.

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I won't do that again.

My favorite mythological creature is Pegasus, which will beat your mythological creatures by being turned into stars by Zeus and burning / outlasting your monsters to death.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:17 am I'll go with the Golem, and it would win against any other creature since, being made of clay, it can never die unless the creating rabbi does so.

Is Double Mexico an in-universe reference?

I haven't heard much of the podcast but Double Mexico is listed at http://nightvale.wikia.com/wiki/Locatio ... ote-ep87-2
So I would guess it is.

My second favorite mythological creature is The Gible, which would beat the late game replacement townie by not reading the rules and therefore being dead and thus preventing late game replacement townie from swooping in and replacing.

I think we should go to Brazil. They have a nice jungle.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:33 pm Tony, Jack, and Neverwhere: I have never played with you all before. Hello! It is nice to meet you! Good Luck in this game!

Nice to meet you too!

And to all the players who haven't played with me or who have only played with me in Pokémon, I look forward to experiencing your mafia play.

Gonna be hard with no vote changing to signal intent. I vote for marking "intention to vote" posts with so we know what to look for.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:19 pm As long as we keep up with the thread, the unchangeable votes shouldn't be a problem. If you need to take notes as to who is suspecting who throughout the day, then do so. I don't think we need to assifn a specific emoji to that. What if I want to use that emoji for fun?

It might help for searching the thread to check vote patterns. It just might be good to come up with a way to do that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:34 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:23 am LOL. That makes so much more sense now. Why do you suspect him?

Here's why:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:19 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:19 pm As long as we keep up with the thread, the unchangeable votes shouldn't be a problem. If you need to take notes as to who is suspecting who throughout the day, then do so. I don't think we need to assifn a specific emoji to that. What if I want to use that emoji for fun?

It might help for searching the thread to check vote patterns. It just might be good to come up with a way to do that.

The hedging language here (might, just might) tells me he isn't really invested in his own idea. If TonyStarkPrime were serious about finding a useful way to track votes in the thread, he wouldn't suggest one idea, get thwarted by Eloh, and then just say "It just might be good to come up with a way to do that." He is talking about how to track something that doesn't matter, since even when votes can be changed, it isn't like we can see who voted for whom when.

"But Epi, you don't know TonyStarkPrime! What if this is how he normally is?"

Spoiler: show

I don't care.

"But Epi, didn't he die Day 1 in Pokemon? Wouldn't it be cruel to lynch him Day 1 here?"

Spoiler: show

See above.

Ooh. Forgot about how the polls worked. (In case my language gets misconstrued again, forgot here means "I neglected to consider") Back on my home site we do the whole "vote in bold in-post" thing, so I typically play with a pretty trackable record and that influences how I play. Even here it would be easier to check in on the thread, look at votes, and have an idea where we stand, and if I recall correctly from Mass Effect, we would mark votes with orange so we would have that record. I assume that is more or less a standard thing.

I don't quite understand the whole hedging thing. I had an idea, someone said "I don't like that idea" and then I said "well maybe there is another way". Which to me would suggest that I'm still invested in the general idea. The word "might" is more of a "I'm not going to force an idea through if people don't want it" than a "well, I don't really care about what I'm saying".

Help me out here: how do I see all of somebody's posts? Is there a way to do that?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm Aaaaaand that's it.

Most inclined to vote Sprityo for self preservation lolololol or Epi for picking on someone he may view as weak.

Epi has seen Tony twice. Once, in a mediocre town performance in ME (sorry, Tony. I've seen you do better) and once when he got himself modkilled and lynched with only one post.

Does Epi care? No. Is that good as a townie? Yes. Is it a great cover to push a bad lynch? For sure.

Tony hasn't said anything to make me think he is good or bad.


Someone ask me a question.


Linki@ Speed

All the more reason to lynch Sprityo and save us both the trouble.

Yeah, my syndicate play has definitely not been good.

@Wilgy There aren't any posts right now that really ping me on way or the other. I have a slight scum read on DFaraday, but he hasn't posted today I have a town read on INH. People who refuse to answer questions are usually town. I don't have a read on you either way.

@elochin Your way works just fine. But in two weeks, I think it'd be nice to have an easily acceptable log. Maybe I'm just lazy.

If I had to vote for someone right now, I'd vote for Sprityo or Speed. But I want both of them to talk more. I'd also potentially vote for Made or Jack, but they wouldn't be my first choice.

Call me crazy, but I think I want to vote for Jack.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:08 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:59 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:16 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:14 pm

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:06 pm Epi- what is your favorite adjective?

No.

That's an adverb, cretin!

"You have no mastery of the English language."

What is the function of the word "no" in the above sentence?

Technically it's a quantifier, and it does not behave the same syntactically as an adjective.

Quantifiers are adjectives.

"No" is an adjective (see definition 2).

Definition 2 would suggest adverb, I think. Though quantifiers are adjectives, no doesn't usually behave as a quantifier.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:22 pm While I'd rather have responses to all questions, based on the answers I have been received so far, I will have to put my vote on the Rico for scumy behavior and other bad things.

Ricochet

I mean, he has only posted in emoji and has not contributed anything, so I'm not exactly disagreeing with you, but I'm curious what you mean by "scummy behavior and other bad things." I guess a self-imposed posting restriction to get out of contributing content could be seen as suspicious as well as annoying (though Rico has plenty of precedent for that type of thing and at least last time as the "Poppy" schtick in Blue Velvet he turned out to be civ). But your phrasing is odd and sounds kinda pulled-out-of-your-ass-y. Also surprising that you chose not to vote for one of the several players who already has a vote, considering you have the majority as of now.

Weirdly enough, such an odd vote makes me not want to vote for Made. I feel like mafia wouldn't risk someone else not jumping on the train and mafia wouldn't stack votes by themself.

speedchuck (Elohcin)
Golden (DrWilgy)
sprityo (JackofHearts2005)
Dom (Golden)
Made (speedchuck) (Neverwhere)
DrWilgy (DFaraday)
Richochet (Made) (Sprityo)

I don't want to lynch one of the top two lynch people. I'd be more fine with lynching Made but I'd still rather not.

I'd feel iffy voting for Neverwhere. He's on my list for kind of scum reads, but that isn't something I'd really want to commit to.
I want to vote for Jack or DF, but it looks like that isn't going to make an impact.

I think at this point I vote for DF even though he won't get lynched just to show an opinion. I have neutral reads on all three potential lynches and I really don't want to choose one.

Vote: DFaraday

Since it was a close staggered lynch, Wilgy or Rico have clear potential w/w pairs.

I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.

I think we should eat at Big Rico's Pizza. No one does a slice like Big Rico!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:08 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.

Who?

Made voters, who was your second choice?

Not sharing my strong town reads because I don't think that would help the town. See what Jack said above. If it comes up, I'll say something, but there isn't much of a reason to do it now. Especially before the next day begins.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:02 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:16 amlinki: w/w means wolf/wolf. Means that the two are both on the same scumteam.
Terrible term, btw, since few of our games are werewolf games. I usually use the term "knowingly aligned" or just "aligned" since town people don't have strong connections to each other. We could even say "scummates". Anything but w/w.

Hmm... Thank you for the explanation. This raises further questions for TSP.

I use w/w. I don't know what questions that raises.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:05 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm Since it was a close staggered lynch, Wilgy or Rico have clear potential w/w pairs.

I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.

That's how I feel. I'm hesitant to say all the strong town reads cause of that thing with you me and Wigly in ME. That's what the two mafia game balance relies on.

TSP, I'd like for you to explain. Why does a staggered lynch lead to having town reads or clears for both me and Rico? where does this perspective come from and do players having different vote values change this at all?

I don't have particularly town reads on you or Rico, so it doesn't lead to me that. What I meant is that if you or Rico flip Maf, we have some clear leads.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:40 amI don't have particularly town reads on you or Rico, so it doesn't lead to me that. What I meant is that if you or Rico flip Maf, we have some clear leads.

"we will have leads when someone flips mafia"


[/quote]

I wasn't trying to be particularly profound.

I'll halfbow, if that's the new thing

Green: Redacted
YellowGreen: Redacted
GreenYellow: Redacted
Yellow: Redacted.
YellowOrange: Epi, spirityo, neverwhere
OrangeYellow: Golden, INH, JOH, LongCon
Orange: Dom
OrangeRed: DF
RedOrange/ Red: None

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:13 pm I'll halfbow, if that's the new thing

Green: Redacted
YellowGreen: Redacted
GreenYellow: Redacted
Yellow: Redacted.
YellowOrange: Epi, spirityo, neverwhere
OrangeYellow: Golden, INH, JOH, LongCon
Orange: Dom
OrangeRed: DF
RedOrange/ Red: None

Why Dom?
Why LC?

Dom is kind of based on consensus, I've really only played with him once but several people have said that he wasn't quite acting himself and what he posted seemed different from how I remember him in Mass Effect. Also, missing a day

LC just feels off to me. I can't point to anything, and his interactions look fine on paper.

@Speed I didn't really like DF's Day 0 posts, so that's a slight scum read, then he gave a Day 1 post of I'm voting for somebody because weird reasons, which seems unhelpful. Plus, low post count but split between phases, which seems more scummish than missing a phase.

Classic WIFOM.

Town Golden will look like Town Golden. What we see is (apparently) not town Golden, therefore, it is mafia Golden. Mafia Golden would stand out less and would behave more like town Golden, therefore, it must be town Golden.

@dom It apparently was more Golden talking than I thought, I might move you up a slot. Epi had voted for you, and Jack said you would look good if you weren't Dom. Speedchuck was defending you but put you at Orange in the rainbow, so I figured there was more.

Epi did something like that too.

Okay. I'm seeing a team of three of Golden, Nutella, JOH, sprityo, and Epi and a team of three of DFaraday, INH, Speed, Dom, and INH.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:42 pm Question:

If TonyStarkPrime got a bad role, how am I going to get people to lynch him if people want to baby him because they think I think he's weak?

I don't even know what to do there. He's not a little kid.

If you want people to lynch me, try to get them to lynch me. I don't understand your qualm. If you are scared that if you lynch me and I flip town it will look bad for you, then yeah. It will. But no different than if I'm someone else.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:52 pm So wait, was Nutella bad

We don't know.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:54 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:42 pm Question:

If TonyStarkPrime got a bad role, how am I going to get people to lynch him if people want to baby him because they think I think he's weak?

I don't even know what to do there. He's not a little kid.

If you want people to lynch me, try to get them to lynch me. I don't understand your qualm. If you are scared that if you lynch me and I flip town it will look bad for you, then yeah. It will. But no different than if I'm someone else.

I don't care how I will look.

But that isn't the issue.

I care that people refuse to lynch someone because of silly perceptions or assumptions of perceptions. Notice the first word in my post above. "If." This is not a campaign against you. It's questioning the idea that you should be safe from lynches because you need to be coddled.

That shouldn't happen, and I don't think it would. I'm pretty sure JOH has no issue lynching me, he's done it before. And I haven't even seen that sentiment from anyone else. People had no issue lynching me in Pokémon, so that isn't a general syndicate thing either.

@speed
My theory is misdirect. I don't know if there is one in the game, but Nut seems like a weird lynch choice. Could be Golden or Dom trying to get suspicions off their back, but they could lynch Nut and if they were Maf and Nut isn't, they would be even more clear. So that doesn't help them. Or they could really think Nut is in the other mafia and think they should eliminate the other Maf first.

@Epi new stuff
I don't get it. Why would voting last minute suggest that to you? I knew I wasn't voting for one of the leading three and I had said that earlier my vote would be inconsequential even if I was Marcus. Since I was voting for the lead. I'd think the people who didn't vote are more likely to be Marcus.

I would respond by putting a vote on someone early today, but I don't know if that would change your mind.

EBWOP

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:22 pm
That shouldn't happen, and I don't think it would. I'm pretty sure JOH has no issue lynching me, he's done it before. And I haven't even seen that sentiment from anyone else. People had no issue lynching me in Pokémon, so that isn't a general syndicate thing either.

@speed
My theory is misdirect. I don't know if there is one in the game, but Nut seems like a weird kill choice. Could be Golden or Dom trying to get suspicions off their back, but they could lynch Nut and if they were Maf and Nut isn't, they would be even more clear. So that doesn't help them. Or they could really think Nut is in the other mafia and think they should eliminate the other Maf first.

@Epi new stuff
I don't get it. Why would voting last minute suggest that to you? I knew I wasn't voting for one of the leading three and I had said that earlier my vote would be inconsequential even if I was Marcus. Since I was voting for the lead. I'd think the people who didn't vote are more likely to be Marcus.

I would respond by putting a vote on someone early today, but I don't know if that would change your mind.

Just so that above stuff makes more sense, I was responding to Epi as he was posting more stuff. Not gonna change that because original intent is clear.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:22 pm
@Epi new stuff
I don't get it. Why would voting last minute suggest that to you? I knew I wasn't voting for one of the leading three and I had said that earlier my vote would be inconsequential even if I was Marcus. Since I was voting for the lead. I'd think the people who didn't vote are more likely to be Marcus.

I would respond by putting a vote on someone early today, but I don't know if that would change your mind.

If you are a civilian and I am wrong, I don't want you to waste your vote.

However, I saw your off-the-radar-last-minute vote as a convenient way to not decide anything.

I get it. I had a triple vote as a baddie in the last game I played and manipulating votes and avoiding vote counts was a big part of my play.

But as a note, the only player I could have voted for where it would have an impact on who got lynched was Rico (assuming that in a tie the first to get to that vote count gets lynched). And I wasn't going to vote for Rico.

DF, name four players you think are town and two you don't.

@Dom's kinda question

1. I noted that I thought that you were acting kinda suspicious.
2. Of a consensus from players who know your meta was saying something was off, of course I'd take that into consideration. If everyone is suspicious of someone and could provide reasons why, I'd probably be suspicious too.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:03 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:58 am @Dom's kinda question

1. I noted that I thought that you were acting kinda suspicious.
2. Of a consensus from players who know your meta was saying something was off, of course I'd take that into consideration. If everyone is suspicious of someone and could provide reasons why, I'd probably be suspicious too.

Do you have any reason to trust any of these reads?
Did you plan on following up on those reads?

At the time Golden was accusing you, you were MIA and I leaned town on Golden. So I trusted those reads a bit.

You started talking and the reasons behind those reads dissipated. And then you and Golden started your giant lynch battle and some new ones potentially arose. I'll have to read over your guys' interactions with Nut and each other after I get some much deserved sleep.


A question for now: Dom, what do you think points most to Golden being bad? Golden, what points most to Dom being bad?

speedchuck (Elohcin)
Golden (DrWilgy)
sprityo (JackofHearts2005)
Dom (Golden) (Epignosis)
Made (speedchuck) (Neverwhere) (insertnamehere) (Boomslang)
DrWilgy (DFaraday) (Long Con)
Ricochet (Made) (sprityo) (Lorab)
DFaraday (TonyStarkPrime)

Nut, Dom, timmer, and Rico didn't vote for anyone. We know Nut and Rico were around, but Nut is unlikely Marcus because that would mean a misdirect and I don't see one on the roles list.

Elo voted early but for someone who received little lynch attention for the rest of the day.

DF popped in and also voted for someone who it seemed was not in lynch contention.

Epi, Boom, and TSP all voted in the last minute for people either not in lynch contention or already ahead.

Marcus could be any of these easily, and with two teammates it could make sense for Marcus to throw down a vote on even a suspect and direct their team to make sure that person doesn't get lynched (why I included DF and Elo, two who could have done this easily).

Really, Lorab is the only one cleared from Marcus suspicion.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:46 am P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y That's me!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:15 am Whoa, just hold on a sec. I didn't quite pick this up last night, but I'd like to say for the record that I did not curse you. No goddamn way I resurrected Poppy.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:54 am All I can say in my own defense is that I would never bring back this foolishness (not to mention that it is a clearer avenue for communication than what you had been doing).

All it takes is in-teeent
For the team to as-seeent
And send the hexer my waaaay
To torment me every day

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:05 am Nut, Dom, timmer, and Rico didn't vote for anyone. We know Nut and Rico were around, but Nut is unlikely Marcus because that would mean a misdirect and I don't see one on the roles list.

I was sound as-leeeep
Couldn't hear a beeeep
Don't turn me in a sheeeep
Like a wolfie creep

I put you on the same level of suspicion I put myself: not very much. You almost definitely would have voted for Made if you were Marcus, as it would have saved you the trouble of worrying about potentially being lynched.



I'm feeling worse about Golden and better about Dom.
A question to Golden: if Dom is bad, who is bad with him?
A question to Dom: if Golden is bad, who is bad but not on the same team?

One way to figure out who Marcus is: everyone votes for themself. Whoever dies is Marcus.

Forgot about Khoshekh :P. I knew there was one who made votes not count but I missed that.

Is JOH the only one who hasn't posted today?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:56 pm Let it be known that Golden made 40 posts on night 1

Is this a good thing?

Wilgy, what's your opinion about JOH's vote for Golden?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:28 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:56 pm Let it be known that Golden made 40 posts on night 1

Is this a good thing?

It is when LC's only reason for my LD statement being flawed is 'I might not have been around to participate in the NK'

Okay. Missed this reasoning from LC. It isn't a bad argument, but it is pretty clearly shot down by the forty points thing.

Okay. I'm feeling a little better about Golden and
willing to believe that Golden and Dom could maybe both be town. I keep getting paranoid about Speed and LC (sorry JOH), both of whom have good interactions but intuitively I don't feel good about. I feel worse about LC and his interactions are worse, but Speed being on it and Golden endorsing it makes me want to vote for one of my other scum reads instead.

So for Epi (and others) to maybe think I'm Marcus a little less: today's I will vote for DF, LC, or maybe INH, barring someone says something really stupid. Even then, I would only vote for the second place person so it would not be a safe vote if I were Marcus. That sound good to you? It works for me, as I don't see a situation where I would break this even if I weren't under suspicion.

LC, DF, and INH: of the two of those who aren't you, who do you think is scum?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:10 pm P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y That's me!

Why won't people help meeee
Get rid of IN heeee
Wipe his hexing spreeee

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:00 pm Okay. I'm feeling a little better about Golden and
willing to believe that Golden and Dom could maybe both be town. I keep getting paranoid about Speed and LC (sorry JOH), both of whom have good interactions but intuitively I don't feel good about. I feel worse about LC and his interactions are worse, but Speed being on it and Golden endorsing it makes me want to vote for one of my other scum reads instead.

So for Epi (and others) to maybe think I'm Marcus a little less: today's I will vote for DF, LC, or maybe INH, barring someone says something really stupid. Even then, I would only vote for the second place person so it would not be a safe vote if I were Marcus. That sound good to you? It works for me, as I don't see a situation where I would break this even if I weren't under suspicion.

LC, DF, and INH: of the two of those who aren't you, who do you think is scum?

What the fek this be?!

Me trying to figure out how to allow myself to be able to lynch X over Y without breaking the narrow contract I set up.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:06 pm I am not about to let this spiral into bullshit about who made what lie detector statement. That's so 2014.

I agree with TonyStarkPrime's assessment of the votes, in that a number of people could have hidden their vote. I still think his move at the very end of the Day was the sketchiest though.

Here's something I found while looking to see if TonyStarkPrime had mentioned DFaraday early enough in advance to have been considering a vote for him (he did express a vague but negative opinion of DF at 6:38pm EST) and I want to know more about this:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm Call me crazy, but I think I want to vote for Jack.

Jack had no votes either, but TonyStarkPrime opted to cast his vote for DFaraday instead. What prompted you to express a desire to vote for Jack but then vote for DFaraday?

DF hadn't showed up that day when I suggested I wanted to vote for Jack. DF showed up about 10 minutes after, did and said some sketchy things, and left. I was still considering voting for Jack at the end of the day, but my earlier comment had gone nowhere so I might as well vote for a bigger scum read.

I can see why you would think my vote is the sketchiest, but if I had gotten my vote in fifteen seconds earlier, you probably would be going after Boom right now. So I'm not sure that being the sketchiest is really that much sketchier.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:39 pm That's an outright lie considering I've tried to engage with INH (he all but ignored me), have made multiple points of contact with Tony, and just probed Eloh.

But cute.


You can't say you were suspicious of me since day 1 AND also say that my Night 1 rebuke of you is teh source of your suspicion, Golden. Which is it? I've asked this question before, and you've ignored it because you have no answer. Sad !

*Sad!*

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:28 pm is something Donald Trump would say about critics
Be better than Donald Trump.

:cheeky:

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:53 pm Hmm, i see jack browsing here. but he hasnt said a thing since last night. im inclined to believe he is being forced to vote, not sure if that's been mentioned but it's my first thing im noticing when reviewing who is voting for who

I considered a forced vote. Since he's silent (been silenced?), he can't really tell us. Can the mod force a player's vote in the polls?

He could have been silenced, have info about Golden from some sort of info power, and wanted to give the town some direction.

Those are the only two reasons I could think of.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm I thought the poll ended friday?

I don't think so.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:57 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:50 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:48 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:46 pm Actually answering the questions I pose would be not only just one way to get me to not suspect you, but a way to, you know, engage in a game.

Are you going to suggest I'm not engaged in the game?

No.
I'm suggesting that you are avoiding engaging with me in any genuine way.

That's true. With wilgy too. Why do you think that indicates I'm bad? Have you considered any other reasons why it might be?

This post does not make me feel great about Golden.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:17 pm I don't actually think Dom is bad. I could be totally wrong in my read of him, but I'm not currently reading him as bad. Golden, I think you're tunneling on him, which is part of why I think you're not bad. You tunnel less when you're bad.

Meh, I'm not particularly tunnelled on Dom. That's why I want LC to go, I feel far more convinced about him than Dom. Dom's recent exchanges have me feeling more town about him than I did before, and he is beginning to cast his net wider. Dom, Wilgy and Rico are all exceptionally tunnelled on me, none of them have ever exhibited a hint of doubt that I'm bad.

I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Is he even trying to get people to vote elsewhere? He defends himself by saying he is exhibiting more townie behaviors than Dom (and Wilgy and Rico). Also doesn't make me feel good about Golden. And if he actually wants to lynch LC, why does he want me to not follow through with my plan of voting for LC? Disregarding if my plan can be easily exploited by mafia, it seems like he wants me to do something else.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid. I am paranoid a lot.

@epi's dead thing - DFaraday or Elochin, depending on how they flipped.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:55 pm Tony - your plan wasn't to vote for LC, it was to vote for the second of three possible candidates. I just think you should vote for who you most think is bad.

Okay. That wasn't my plan, but I feel better when reading this and seeing what you thought my plan was. I probably should have clarified my plan a little more. That's on me.

Sorry, walking on a beach with iffy internet.

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