The Syndicate

Werid for me to be near on the first page lets go i think this will be a good game hope i can get my reads on point lets go.

its okay Alison most people have a hard time reading me.
Take my entrence as you will not much else i can say was gonna do more last night but site kinda went down.



I don't make good D1 reads ever so not really gonna force those right now or the fact you are hard claiming mason D1 (cause is better to do cover D1 and Claim D2)

Mason Partner: DrWilgy

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:49 pm Why are you giving mason cover after I hard claimd Mason, TL?

Cause i planned to from the start and decided to keep it either way seemed no negative over positive to add it in the post.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:51 pm Early reading tutuu as town here as well as Alison so far.

Everyone else I don't know yet.

Reads the Mason claim pair as town and nothing else

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:11 pmTL is ehhh

This post does feel off from nutella curious what you thought while posting it as its pretty openended.
Did you also suspect me from the one post or was this a response to me in general?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:54 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:53 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:51 pm Early reading tutuu as town here as well as Alison so far.

Everyone else I don't know yet.

Reads the Mason claim pair as town and nothing else

If I am mason I would masonizer shoot Trustworthy tonight.

If i was a Mason i would do the exact same thing

Also an idea should be to not claim exact target btw for the masons that way they can out if they got it wrong or keep the person confirmed due to unique flip.
IE check one in three people listed so we know going forward.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:59 pm If I get a red check on my Masonizer shot I'm going to claim it. If I successfully recruit them I'm going to keep quiet about who I recruited so they can claim at an opportune time.

Yes this is what i was saying

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:03 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:54 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:11 pmTL is ehhh

This post does feel off from nutella curious what you thought while posting it as its pretty openended.
Did you also suspect me from the one post or was this a response to me in general?

I didn't like your entrance, yeah

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:38 pm TL trying to pocket me with those cute anime girl pics

I see thru their wolf guerilla tactics

I just always post gif


But of course you all seem to think you have 5 people almost cleared so if you all just need to kill me to be in a place to auto win i will happily die for hope.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:30 pm reading ppl by their first posts is one of the best tactics there is

transcending it even further is forming reads before their first post

its not random guessing or messing around, its after the way other ppl posted, i didnt rly think about it too hard, right, but like, my brain is so big that is subconsciosuly started theorizing about mafia team combinations, and whether or not im right, or wrong, or stuff like that. there is so much data itt already - how many ppl have posted and cleared themselves already vs the 2 people who havent (nutella and wilgy) and ton of other info that we perceive but we just ignore

and funny gurl is simply mafia in every combination of events

i care not for being mocked or not taken seriously in my quest to transcend into my strongest form as a mafia player and be able to catch people as mafia before they post (but after other people have posted). i care only for reaching enlightenment, and if mockery is the path towards it, so be it

And by doing that i can say every game i ever play would have me be the first lynched everygame and is incrediable demotivating

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:10 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:08 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:06 pm point is, you're either not thinking or scum for assuming a vote on my mason partner would be legit, especially when I didn't vote in the thread

I find it odd that you were expecting that to be your sole contribution to the game until someone noticed it.

No additional content or analysis in the meantime.

I shouldn't really need to contribute when I'm claimed PR

unless you expect me to actually find scum correctly? in which case I have bad news for you

never true actually the oppisite really as a claimed PR if you are indeed that PR then you need to use that town proven stuff and actually lead a town.
Really don't even know where you would get that idea from?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:11 pm hot take marmot is town here

I can feel it they have had towny moments and liked their reaction to presure

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:21 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:20 pm never true actually the oppisite really as a claimed PR if you are indeed that PR then you need to use that town proven stuff and actually lead a town.
Really don't even know where you would get that idea from?

I'm not a town leader, best I can do is be clear

Then make sure you give reads and read into people as a "Confirmed" towny.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:50 am

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:52 pm Werid for me to be near on the first page lets go i think this will be a good game hope i can get my reads on point lets go.

Spoiler: show

Still the most sus post of the game IMO

I want to rephrase everyone susing me for being nervious and ask anyone that knows me to correct them on this honestly.
As unless i am doing a gimic (In which i am not here) i am always nervious as Day 1 start in a game with an abondence of people i don't know.

But of course you might be forced to take my word for it in which i know you will not believe.

Reads Disregarding any claims

Town Lean
Alison-Has opened and been strong through out almost confident to push this to just town but still holding back since its D1.
Marmot-Their reaction to the presure towards them has been decent better then mine atleast hehe but i feel they are calmer then they would be as a wolf in this situation.
tutuu-Start of day was towny over all and seems to be giving pressure to most slots that where around at that time.
Long Con-Gimic has been well and feel they are being open in their pushs which is inhertly town leaning. Don't like that it seems every other post has me in it however which is to note going after my flip.

Null
MartinGG99-Seems open but not seen enough to move to town lean top of my null reads but here they are.
nutella-nothing confident here agred on their Marmot idea but other then that nothing confident either way.
Funnygurl555- Nothing Noteworthy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME-Masonclaims but nanook D1 town read is unlikely from me usally wouldn't yeet today but still unsure on alignment.
DrWilgy-Don't remember this slot?
Enrique-Same as DrWilgy i don't remember them this game.

Scum Lean
ts account-Don't like their comment of i claimed and now i get to coast never true and i feel is less likely to come from a town in any world.
falcon45ca-Think they are trying to push soloying a me world over the other bottom PoE which in place makes me feel that they are a wolf trying to protect another wolf in said general PoE

These are my current thoughts on every slot for gun to my head reads

Should say those are not ordered in tiers just as i wrote them

Also [VOTE: ts account] aubergine reasons above alteast for now

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:00 pm TL giving GTH reads to start, eh? Cool. Also note that her scum leans consists solely of 2 players who've shaded her. No scum reads on anyone who hasn't sussed ya TL? Not even 1?

Thats how i play D1's i look into the people suspecting me any get reads as i've seen enough people do that across all games i've played i get sused ALOT d1 as town and have learned what is more towny and scumy of a push on me. So those are the people i have been more critical of. Outside that no one has done anything i think is super scummy wnough to scum read them. Except Tuaccount but i listed why already.

When does day end if anyone knows cause i don't know if site down time counted as day time?

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:18 pm TL unvote me I'm mason

Theres time left in the day
Either way after falcons last comment i feel i do suspect them more feels like trying to hard shade my reads and discredit me as the more i think about it the more i dislike it

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:17 pm When does day end if anyone knows cause i don't know if site down time counted as day time?

NVM its in the OP 10pm EST tonight

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:25 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:20 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine

This isn't mason cover any more, this is blatantly fake claiming to get out of an exe.

even if I were fake claiming, which I'm not, why wouldn't it be cover, and why is it scummy?

Cause your using it as a crutch a leg to stand on and justify low reads.
IF you backed it up with such it would be different but your defense is you are claiming mason but not looking into the other pair which moves it past cover to a hard claim.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:29 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:28 pm do you have reads

not competent ones

Can you share them anyway?

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:32 pm tutuu scum lean
nutella null
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME null
Alison town lean
ts account mason
Funnygurl555 mason
Marmot scum lean
MartinGG99 town lean
DrWilgy null
Long Con scum lean
Enrique null
Trustworthy Liberal null
falcon45ca null

Those are atleast something to base some stuff off.
Curious mainly on the LC read curious why you thought that if you know?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:58 pm I hate voting for TL but I don’t wanna kill TS either so

But who do you suspect cause i would rather vote Falcon or ts today

also 4 none voters with only 4 hours left in the day

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm TL most if not all of the wolves are in your town reads
I'm sorry

Your saying the 3 wofls are in my 4 town reads?

I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:15 pm alison kept nagging me to vote okay FINE ALISON RELAX ALREADY

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Also this is super bad if TS flips mason tutuu should be immediatly yeeted

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:17 pm I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.

Okay, I'll admit I may have been unfairly condescending at one point or another.

I do have an issue with being that way sometimes, though I do try to work on not doing that in the future.

No in general your posts this page has been okay i mean the wagons went

3 TS
4 Trusty

to

5 TS
2Trusty

with very little progression and both tutuu and nutella not giving reasons for the switch

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons

While legit worst case we go 1 for 1 there for you and them.
As the admited in that post to have communication with alison

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:21 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?

I'm not defending ts, so much as saying that they're not an optimal Day 1 vote.

Still will count that as a soft defend cause it is.
If not ts who are your two prefored wagons?

As martian said they said it in that way for a reason either they are the mason pair or tutuu is using the mason claim as an reason to not justify a vote.

I think no matter what based on these interactions ts/tutuu is always atleast 1 wolf as i said above.
ts fought the idea which makes it feel werid hoenstly

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:38 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:35 pm I think no matter what based on these interactions ts/tutuu is always atleast 1 wolf as i said above.
ts fought the idea which makes it feel werid hoenstly

no, you suggested that tutu and alison share a chat
I don't believe that's the case
iirc you're ESL so I don't blame you for misunderstanding

Thats not what i said i said Tutuu refrenced as such and why i think they are T/W or W/W with you and your reactions have not been good to this theroy

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:14 pm I'm still curious... To anyone who wants to answer. What's the case on TL again?

People disliked my first post was the main case cause i said a word twice
getting busyier now so will try to keep an eye around for questions

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:52 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?

you're still a good vote imo, ts just feels worse atm


when did nanook and marmot defend ts

Nanook activly picked to vote me over TS saying they didn't wanna vote there and hasn't talked since.
Marmot was defending the claim itself to push people to not vote them both noteworthy moving forward.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:00 pm dead air dead villager

Yes this is usally true however i just have an RP starting now and need to finsh a paper so

Like if your town ts leave a legacy go over how people have read you and who you suspect as town or mafia.

If you are town you should be able to look at all the people who piled onto your wagon and give reads on who you think are towny and had reason and who just jumped on for scummy reasons.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:31 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:14 pm I'm still curious... To anyone who wants to answer. What's the case on TL again?

People disliked my first post was the main case cause i said a word twice
getting busyier now so will try to keep an eye around for questions

That's not why I scum read your intro. It read like a wolf trying to act casual entering the thread. 1st post by wolves are often awkward, with odd jokes and a je na sais quoi element, as it's hard to enter a discussion with more info than everyone else and act the same. It becomes easier as the conversations develop of course, and your posting since your entrance certainly fits the bill.



Yeah, I'm still scum reading you. Do you have a reason for sussing me, outside of OMGUS? If OMGUS is all you have, that's cool, no hard feelings.



I also find your scum list too short and your null list too large.

2 Scum reads D1 is 2 more then i usally have

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:55 pm PLEASE MOVE YOUR VOTES MIKEY IS NOT A WOLF

WAit ts is mikey?

I had no idea i just thought someone i hadn't played with

i do think mikey is more towny then now and thats werid... I think i yeah put them higher up but unsure voting Nanook

#Vote Nannook

since i trust hte mason claim more now am sorry if i am wrong

I hate this

Okay so the reason i switch vote was litteraly just cause i could see the reaction of them being masons there is a world its true in and the two backing each other in a hard claim I would have rathered CFC to farmot or even marmot but nanooks bare vote earlyier was atleast somewhat sus.
Seeing the VT flip i actually feel bad about it and hope it was the right call.

Cause in the would TS flipped mason and funny was the other we just lose the entire cop check which is extremly bad.
IE both get killed before results.

So i don't regret unvoteing TS there but i do regret voting Nanook.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:50 pm FG and I are discussing who to use the shot on
whatever we decide, we'll likely decline to share the identity and instead leave a way for them to identify themselves when they need to

I'm pretty sure that's the optimal way to play mason here and FG doesn't really feel differently

This is the way you play it honestly atleast i think at the very least just make sure to not spend to much time over thinking the not clearing them tommorow.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:44 am TL probably town.

Am happy you can see it now atleast. I think i am gonna look over the EoD and see how it was in my head for updated reads.

Votes that are posted in thread around EoD (can't look back otherwise)

falcon
Enrique
Martian
Trust Worthy
Ts account
Falcon jumps off (Noting this cause while i should)

Oh these
Falcon gives no case and lays a bear vote against a ts vote. Note: this is before funny came in and defended ts and people were looking at moving.
Enrique asks who to vote funny said maybe nanook and they voted saying nothing
Martian didn't like the town read which was also why funny disliked them (Most reason posted out of everyone one yet a concern they should have been more forward with earlyier as town)
Myself (TL) voted in order to not have tied votes it was at the time i wrote my post and changed it i think martions actially broke the tie but i rathered not mason last second.
ts account hammers it in for self pres saying its bad.

Falcon tries to jump off after EoD taking this as trying to seem more towny then they are/ still a top sus read for myself.

LC is around and didn't take a side except that no case on Nanook (Which is ture) but i honestly don't know where their vote laid.

Take this as
Mikey(TS) and Funny COULD be masons same as Alison and Tutuu am fine with letting them resolve and explain why they acted as they did cause your not all four townies.
LC needs to give reads and push them very passive Day 1. Same for Enrigue .

Thats some level 1 reads at 2am with trusty