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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:37 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?
Doing fine. How's about you? What's your story?

I'm the rep from The Millennium Forums shamelessly using your mafia board as a stepping stone on my way to become the ultimate cambodian basket weaving forum mafia player. I know MP7 and a couple of other people here I'm forgetting atm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:48 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?
We're shy, aren't we?

Y-yes leducoboulbli can you pwease introduce me to everybody

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:58 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:55 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:48 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?
We're shy, aren't we?
Y-yes leducoboulbli can you pwease introduce me to everybody
Call me senpai. So what's up? What insight did you get from these 100 posts?

You have a job to do first. Regale these forumers with tales of my many triumphs, lest your envy get in the way

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.
We got one.

Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?
With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:35 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:58 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:54 pm One thing that concerns me about JJJ's town read of me: he knows I play exactly the same way regardless of alignment
Why concern then
Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.
The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??
I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.
So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?

What do you think, Dragomir?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine
[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

Testing

So you can vote on the poll without stating it in the thread? I'm not too fond of that.

How do you vote without a poll.

Also is there anyone so far who's voted without stating?

Well, besides me, lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:53 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.
Has anyone been shaded over NAI?

Possibly, by you.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pmBy the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

I'm going to choose to interpret that as being complimentary.

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That's the spirit.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pmThis reeks of chainsaw defense.

I don't know what that means.
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Defend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

I think holding someone accountable for saying Day Zeros are less valuable is a bit pushy, especially considering they in fact are. Now, if someone was using "Wait, I said that D0, it doesn't count!" as a defense, or as a reason to dismiss a case, that is categorically scummy. But outside of that context, there's no apparent scum motive to stating the obvious, other than perhaps appearing blendy.

Reaction posts can also carry a scum motive, so this sounds like TMI on speedchuck

As for the vote, speedchuck is obvscumming.

If he's playing suboptimal to try and garner reactions, well, it's only common courtesy to start a wagon so he gets them.

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]

Reads please

When I casually drop pro level mafia terminology like "Chainsaw defense", just wait until I pull out the big acronyms kids

To explain again what I meant, a chainsaw defense is when you defend someone indirectly through attacking someone else. I found this notable because JJJ didn't really make it clear he town read speed chuck until someone jumped on him, so it looks opportunistic.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:29 am
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.
We got one.
Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.
Is there a quota on how many people you can shade? I'm a proponent of the shade every bad thing you see and no neutral law. I'm not sure how the number of people I shade affect my seriousness, especially since you agree and see the same thing I do.

Ohohoho, someone's a little defensive. I was just trying to get clarification on what your read was on him was. Or anyone else you shaded.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:39 am
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:41 pm @novaselinenever

Reads please
I'm currently beefing with Rundon'twalk and Soneji. I'm not really buying the formers concern with Jay sticking him as good early on, and the whole "he knows I play the same as both alignments" is whack. That has never stopped people from forming read, let alone gut ones. If what he claims is true and Jay knows him well, he should also know Jay well and that flinging poo early on alongside sticking people with an alignment based on first impression is his bread and butter. I think I talked about Soneji's entrance sometime earlier.

The whole no lynch thing is hilarious, and I'm more intrigued by DDL jumping on Speed than the latter making that claim. I took it as him messing around, 'cause I don't believe for a second that he's serious about it.

I can't say I'm a fan of you calling out the vote on DDL, nor throwing around fancy words like "chainsaw defense". Feels like over-compensating

If that was a bait post it's a pretty bad one. A player with low presence makes a very bad suggestion and then leaves. I can't reflexively blame someone for voting for that. I will blame a player for jumping on that player without explanation.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:07 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:00 pm [VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
did you forget that you were townreading that player
No. Because I'm not.

I have some town pings from them, but I mentioned something scummy as well. If it continues, their need to cling to and buddy Nova will easily outweigh any town cred they have.

Can you point out how I'm trying to buddy Nova

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:33 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
Do you believe that JJJ was defending a teammate, or that he knows I'm town because he's not?

Leaning towards the latter atm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:37 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
This is up the wrong tree at best.

Speed didn’t need Jay to defend Speed from something that a bunch of players would think makes DDL look bad and doesn’t make Speed look bad.

wat

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:44 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:25 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:14 pm I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.
um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused
It isn't necessarily, but on its own as a bland question it's the cheapest way to fake prodding and interest. With the way, he's navigating the game through me as a compass, it felt iffy like someone that didn't really care about the answer.

Nova, I asked you for your reads because I was trying to see how serious your pushes are. I also haven't been doing, well, any of this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:44 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:37 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
This is up the wrong tree at best.

Speed didn’t need Jay to defend Speed from something that a bunch of players would think makes DDL look bad and doesn’t make Speed look bad.
wat
THIS IS UP THE WRONG TREE AT BEST!

SPEED DIDN’T NEED JAY TO DEFEND SPEED FROM SOMETHING THAT A BUNCH OF PLAYERS WOULD THINK MAKES DDL LOOK BAD AND DOESN’T MAKE SPEED LOOK BAD!

Still don't quite understand, but I think you misinterpreted my vote so I'll elaborate again. JJJ made an opportunistic vote by voting a player who appeared to make a "bad vote". If speed is town, this is fairly wolfy, as otherwise he would not be so confident that the vote was bad.

Fantastic performance by the rest of my team

Another scum win under my belt zehaha

I felt bad getting lynched D1 especially because I didn't give it my best effort - I could have saved my own ass but I wasn't in a great mood that day and just couldn't bring myself to do it. Playing scum for me is very exhausting but also very rewarding so my performance really depends on my mindset.

But at least my interactions were obscure enough to lead to a couple of mislynches.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:46 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:44 pm I felt bad getting lynched D1 especially because I didn't give it my best effort - I could have saved my own ass but I wasn't in a great mood that day and just couldn't bring myself to do it. Playing scum for me is very exhausting but also very rewarding so my performance really depends on my mindset.

But at least my interactions were obscure enough to lead to a couple of mislynches.
Continue to play with us! I look forward to seeing the civilian side of Ultra, for one thing.

Will do

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 pm @Ultra, we have a few games in signup right now waiting on a few players to run. You should totally sign up if you have time and feel able, lots of people would love to play with you again.

Got anything starting soon? My chaps game is in 2 weeks.

Oh I see, I'll check it out

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:55 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:51 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 pm Ultra, we have a few games in signup right now waiting on a few players to run. You should totally sign up if you have time and feel able, lots of people would love to play with you again.
Got anything starting soon? My chaps game is in 2 weeks.
The job is likely to be starting soonest, but if your champs is in 2 weeks, I dunno if you wanna commit to 48/24 phases in a 20-player game. Up to you!

Which champs # game are you in?

48 hr DP is still doable if I have to commit less, probably.

Worse case scenario I can use it as an excuse in my champs game if the two cross over

Also, I plan on starting a sopranos game soon on The Millennium Forums. No exact date yet. If any of you would be interested in that.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:06 pm On another news, after 5 years I still have zero idea of how to read @Soneji

And when I complained to him on Discord, he told me my case was good for lynching WPK but not for lynching Soneji (WPK is how he's called in NF)

Because apparently he plays different here.

Godanmit.

I've seen Soneji play a few times and he's a pretty tough read because he minimizes inconsistencies in his meta with low volume but high effort wall posts.

Aside from scrutinizing his reasoning I think a good approach for him or the "analysis" type players is to try and get into their mindset and ask if what he picked out from the thread makes sense. For example, are they not scrutinizing a certain player when they should, or are they focusing on the most relevant situations of the thread? Are they being stiff and non-topical? Do you strongly vibe with their points? etc

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:26 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:17 pm
Also, I plan on starting a sopranos game soon on The Millennium Forums. No exact date yet. If any of you would be interested in that.
Feel free to link us there. We've also got a thread for off-site games here, if you feel like advertising to everyone on the Syndicate. We only bite a little bit.

I may check it out, but I'm not sure I can sign up for this game right now. A) Because I'm not sure I can fit another game into my schedule at the moment, and B) because The Sopranos is near the very top of my Shows I Should Watch list and I don't want to risk exposing myself to spoilers before I get to it.

Good to know

My games tend to be very flavor heavy in construction of roles, with almost every role being custom tailored to the character, but in terms of write ups and spoilers that's usually kept to a minimum.

And start watching it. Seriously.

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