The Syndicate

Checking in. Be back soon. EoD in progress....

OK. As nothing is happening at the moment I will check back in in the am.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:05 am @WaywardSon
@MafiaMenace

Hello. We’ve never played together before. What can you tell me about yourselves? Where else have you played? What’s your experience and general approach to the game?

I have played Several places. Back playing after 10 years away. And to win.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:04 pm I don't think @MafiaMenace has checked in but has @WaywardSon explained his vote?

On MM? He's only one I have played with.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:07 pm There's only one MM around here, and it ain't MafiaMenance.

Thats what hes called where he plays for short.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:07 pm There's only one MM around here, and it ain't MafiaMenance.

I was just looking at his profile this morning, he hasn’t been on since November

I would poke him but I dont want to break a rule.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:35 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:07 pm There's only one MM around here, and it ain't MafiaMenance.

I was just looking at his profile this morning, he hasn’t been on since November

I would poke him but I dont want to break a rule.

He’s referring to another user here. If you have a means of contacting MafiaMenace, though, I’d allow you to give a nudge.

theoutlaw321Today at 9:14 AM
Game on The Syndicate http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 83#p509383
I was told I could let you know.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:17 am checking in so i dont get replaced
my b

Nevermind my post lol

So the thread isn't locked at night?

had gotten use to that. Nice to know.

Also could be dangerous. If you are on then you become a target. I wish my home site locked the thread at night.(thats not a complaint just have gotten use to it playing other places.)

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:28 pm its a weak scumread but what else can i pull from these few pages lmao

/nod

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:34 pm Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

I've played enough with MM to know trust his instincts for now.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:44 pm To answer the question, @WaywardSon: yes.

What question?

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:44 pm To answer the question, @WaywardSon: yes.

What question?

Well he reads in this one aren't very good.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:43 am Taking a look at WaywardSon to see what the slumbering King of Fuck Mountain is on about.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:51 pm Checking in. Be back soon. EoD in progress....

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:33 pm OK. As nothing is happening at the moment I will check back in in the am.

Thanks for the updates. A passive entry is not the best look.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:47 pm I have played Several places. Back playing after 10 years away. And to win.

Let's resume this conversation. Where are these places you've played? Where have you played recently? What's your general approach to the game? What are games like where you come from?

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:16 pm So the thread isn't locked at night?

This is Night 1. WaywardSon contributed exactly 0 thoughts on the game during Day 1 and did not vote. I get that it was slow, but the slowness is not aided one bit by abstaining from things. Another not great look. However, this is their first game here and we might be a bunch of weird freaks who are impossible to read. There's some chatter about the thread not being locked at night. Still no reads.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:30 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:28 pm its a weak scumread but what else can i pull from these few pages lmao

/nod

This almost constitutes a read, but only barely. It's weak and I don't like it.

I'm going to assume these are the things that prompted Jay to call WaywardSon out, to which he responded:

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:34 pm Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

Apart from being a beautifully ironic question, this is the opposite of a good defense. Pure ad hominem, doesn't address anything happening in the game. Not that there was a specific accusation to respond to, but WaywardSon doesn't seem intent on drawing those things out of Jay here.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:48 pm I've played enough with MM to know trust his instincts for now.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

This is even weaker than it was the first time.

... and that's it.

I can see reason to read them as scum. But, again, this is WaywardSon's first game with most of us. First games in new places are a weird animal. The obvious concern right now is the total lack of reads. So, @WaywardSon if you want to get people to trust you here you're going to have to tell us what you think about the game. Even if you feel like you don't have a clue what's going on, tell us that, and tell us what's causing you to feel that way. We can't trust you if we don't know what's going on in your head. Who do you trust? Who do you suspect? etc.

I am tired as hell and can barely string two sentences together right now. bye.

OK I'm going to lay it on the line for you and you can do with it what you wish. I signed up cause I was asked to come join indirectly. I played a game with JacksofHearts and liked him as a player. I am trying sites out looking for good games, and to maybe make some connections and find a few players that would join games on my home site as we( and when I say we I mean mostly me as I am doing all the leg work) try to revitalize it after it went dormant after me and some other old players left for various reasons(not problems just life in general.) I talked with several on the discord namely Elo who has already been voted out. I signed up for a game. And waited and waited an waited.
In the meantime I am doing the same thing elsewhere. Talking networking and playing on some sites. Alot of sites. That's where I have played with Mafiamenance at ToS. I also think he played in a game I was in on Mafia Universe. You want me to name them all? Personality Cafe, Mafia Scum, My homesite of Grey Dog Software. I'm sure there are more but those are the ones that pop into my head in my hungovered state.
I usually plan out how many games I am in at a given time so I can allot sufficient enough time to play. This game took so long to fill that I lost track of it. So in the last 2.5 days I have had 4 games rand on top of the 4 I was already in. Add to that the one that I will be running as soon as it fills(invitations extended if interested.)
My fault I lost track of this game. Please do not take this as anything other than what it is intened to be(my reason.) I dropped in. Nothing was happening. I don't know how ya'lls games flow. I come back. Nothing. I come back and there's arguing over literally. I don't know if this is normal or what. So I hope that it is just RVS or actual pregame spam. When I check back in figure out that we are actually in phase and there is nothing to go but the stuff I was hoping was just RVS spamming. TL;dr It was late I had just went thru 2 EoDs on MU and had to be up at 4am the next morning.
I have tried to get into this game but it reminds me of the way games are played on a few other sites that I have a hard time following the flow. It would take some time to get use to to actually be of any use to the players in this game. Time I don't have to spare. Not your fault, it's mine. I asked to be replaced, don't know how that will go seeing as it took so long to fill the game in the first place. I apoligize for that. I will take into consideration in the future when it comes to deciding whether or not to sign up on this site the chance that it will take that long to fill. So there it is. I hope that answered the questions you asked. If not ask them and I will answer when I drop in to see if I have been replaced(which is my hope) or not.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm Let me ask each of you a question:

@Epignosis- I understand your grievances against Sloonei. Thinking beyond Sloonei, do you have any inklings yet as to who he, if bad, is in league with?

@JaggedJimmyJay- What is the justification for you change in opinion about sprityo? ‘Because behavior’ is not a sufficient enough answer. Please give me something tangible.

@MafiaMenace- You have experience playing with/against WaywardSon. How does his game read to you so far?

@nutella- Think beyond WaywardSon. Who is he in league with and why?

@reywaS- Are you buying what Jay is selling?

@sloonei- On Day 1, both Eloh and Jay had two votes along with you. You voted for Eloh. You’ve tried to explain your vote for Eloh. I’d like you to explain to us why your mind wasn’t swayed to vote for Jay. What about his posts made him worth keeping around over Eloh?

@SpaceDaisy- Where the heck are you? Have you forgotten about us?

@sprityo- You mad, bro?

@WaywardSon- You have experience playing with/against MafiaMenace. How does his game read to you so far?

I have played with him in several games. This is how I have seen Town!MafiaMenance play. He is in your face and he did name 2/3 in the last game we played together on day 1. He is good both ways so take that into consideration also. I would lean slightly toward a TR at this point.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm Let me ask each of you a question:

@Epignosis- I understand your grievances against Sloonei. Thinking beyond Sloonei, do you have any inklings yet as to who he, if bad, is in league with?

@JaggedJimmyJay- What is the justification for you change in opinion about sprityo? ‘Because behavior’ is not a sufficient enough answer. Please give me something tangible.

@MafiaMenace- You have experience playing with/against WaywardSon. How does his game read to you so far?

@nutella- Think beyond WaywardSon. Who is he in league with and why?

@reywaS- Are you buying what Jay is selling?

@sloonei- On Day 1, both Eloh and Jay had two votes along with you. You voted for Eloh. You’ve tried to explain your vote for Eloh. I’d like you to explain to us why your mind wasn’t swayed to vote for Jay. What about his posts made him worth keeping around over Eloh?

@SpaceDaisy- Where the heck are you? Have you forgotten about us?

@sprityo- You mad, bro?

@WaywardSon- You have experience playing with/against MafiaMenace. How does his game read to you so far?

wayward wasnt that active in the game i played with him
he started off with very minimal content if at all, and he picked it up the closer it came to eod
nfm63

and he was town

Played the pony game also. That one was basically blown open on night 1 and it was a matter of getting rid of the scum the rest of the game. And you were scum in the game on MU. Which you were lynched day one.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:44 pm @WaywardSon I can sympathize with being overloaded in too many games at once, and I appreciate you reaching out to our site. Thanks! Also, sorry this one took so long to fill. We had a couple bigger games running at the time, so that probably didn’t help.

However, none of the stuff you said tells me much about you as a player in this game right now. Do you have any independent reads on anybody?

I am going to do some isos as soon as I am not being interrogated in the other games at present moment. Seems the day to question me. Not avoiding just telling you where I am. I post in one, check, check, answer in another, check, skip in night phase, check here. Not your fault and understand the consequences. Just letting you know I am not avoiding. Just trying to make time. And I'm hungry.

Is there an order that you would suggest I begin in? Wad going to begin with you and the other votes tied at the EOD before switching to the only person besides Owner of Lonely heart and Jack that I have any interaction with.

And Collin thanks. Look is so much cleaner now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:03 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:44 pm @WaywardSon I can sympathize with being overloaded in too many games at once, and I appreciate you reaching out to our site. Thanks! Also, sorry this one took so long to fill. We had a couple bigger games running at the time, so that probably didn’t help.

However, none of the stuff you said tells me much about you as a player in this game right now. Do you have any independent reads on anybody?

I am going to do some isos as soon as I am not being interrogated in the other games at present moment. Seems the day to question me. Not avoiding just telling you where I am. I post in one, check, check, answer in another, check, skip in night phase, check here. Not your fault and understand the consequences. Just letting you know I am not avoiding. Just trying to make time. And I'm hungry.

Is there an order that you would suggest I begin in? Wad going to begin with you and the other votes tied at the EOD before switching to the only person besides Owner of Lonely heart and Jack that I have any interaction with.

And Collin thanks. Look is so much cleaner now.

Do whatever feels right for you. Don't let us distract you from playing the game your way.

I was honestly asking suggestions on the order. Not trying to say anything counter to game solving.

ISOed Sloonei. Has strong feelings/read on Epi(not ISOed.) Has been present and by virtue of asking questions of me is at least making the attempt to solve my slot as well as others. There is question to his EOD vote to break the tie between several players one of which was himself. I assume he voted on a PoE order of his. Absolutely nothing I wouldn't do in that situation. If you are town and in that situation you have an obligation to the game to vote to self pres as you know you are town. Hopefully your PoE is where you hit a scum. If not information is gathered. If you are scum then the same applies. You are obligated to preserve to further your wincon. Intentions of this slot will be sorted as the game progresses. As of this point it read nullish to very slight town. Will reassess once all Isos are completed as the T-N-S guage may need tweaking.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:13 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:51 pm Checking in. Be back soon. EoD in progress....

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:33 pm OK. As nothing is happening at the moment I will check back in in the am.

Checking in is fine and good. Repeatedly projecting one's next arrival is less good. It reveals consciousness of oneself being perceived as a slanker and a desire to avoid that perception.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:16 pm So the thread isn't locked at night?

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:48 pm had gotten use to that. Nice to know.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:17 pm Also could be dangerous. If you are on then you become a target. I wish my home site locked the thread at night.(thats not a complaint just have gotten use to it playing other places.)

Hey wait what, it's the night and the civilians are still hunting for me, what the hell is this?

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:34 pm Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

Not anymore. But I'm giving you this post because you asked.

Thanks for showing me though that you know I am a civilian. Let's explore your response.

I, JaggedJimmyJay, a guy with at the time 8 shitty posts and no good vibes in my favor, have just shit in your Corn Flakes. Your Corn Flakes are covered in my shit. The nerve of this JJJ guy, right? He's probably a bad guy trying to capitalize on my being new, or on my being low in reads, or in X.
-- You spent zero words in your response or any ensuing response since exploring my alignment or my motives. You merely suggested I might suck at Mafia -- whether I suck or not, that implies my purpose was to hunt and that you were already aware of that.

So, bad.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:48 pm I've played enough with MM to know trust his instincts for now.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Your nutella vote is assigned to another human being who is not you. Accountability, sir. Accountability.

Then you responded at length to Sloonei with a bunch of things that can be completely true and still have no bearing on your alignment in this game.

I don't eat Corn Flakes so that was a wasted effort. I am doing your ISO next. Not with the alpha male responses you have spouted so far I know there will be some sort of I'm a badass I'm going to wreck you response which is fine. You do you and I'll do me. And if you are town then great the scum will have more than their hands full; and if not then, well we'll see...

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:30 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:13 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:51 pm Checking in. Be back soon. EoD in progress....

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:33 pm OK. As nothing is happening at the moment I will check back in in the am.

Checking in is fine and good. Repeatedly projecting one's next arrival is less good. It reveals consciousness of oneself being perceived as a slanker and a desire to avoid that perception.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:16 pm So the thread isn't locked at night?

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:48 pm had gotten use to that. Nice to know.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:17 pm Also could be dangerous. If you are on then you become a target. I wish my home site locked the thread at night.(thats not a complaint just have gotten use to it playing other places.)

Hey wait what, it's the night and the civilians are still hunting for me, what the hell is this?

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:34 pm Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

Not anymore. But I'm giving you this post because you asked.

Thanks for showing me though that you know I am a civilian. Let's explore your response.

I, JaggedJimmyJay, a guy with at the time 8 shitty posts and no good vibes in my favor, have just shit in your Corn Flakes. Your Corn Flakes are covered in my shit. The nerve of this JJJ guy, right? He's probably a bad guy trying to capitalize on my being new, or on my being low in reads, or in X.
-- You spent zero words in your response or any ensuing response since exploring my alignment or my motives. You merely suggested I might suck at Mafia -- whether I suck or not, that implies my purpose was to hunt and that you were already aware of that.

So, bad.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:48 pm I've played enough with MM to know trust his instincts for now.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Your nutella vote is assigned to another human being who is not you. Accountability, sir. Accountability.

Then you responded at length to Sloonei with a bunch of things that can be completely true and still have no bearing on your alignment in this game.

I don't eat Corn Flakes so that was a wasted effort. I am doing your ISO next. Not with the alpha male responses you have spouted so far I know there will be some sort of I'm a badass I'm going to wreck you response which is fine. You do you and I'll do me. And if you are town then great the scum will have more than their hands full; and if not then, well we'll see...

ISOed Triple J. Took about 3 seconds which is about how long it took him to throw his reads out during a commercial from the playoff game he was watching. I'm going to assume the tone of his posts are the norm for him? His reads are shallow and have no depth. All superficial and the 'tude' only weakens his stance. Depending on the rest of the ISOs will determine the level at which he falls on the PoE. He's a scum lean at best at this point.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:25 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:13 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm Let me ask each of you a question:

@Epignosis- I understand your grievances against Sloonei. Thinking beyond Sloonei, do you have any inklings yet as to who he, if bad, is in league with?

@JaggedJimmyJay- What is the justification for you change in opinion about sprityo? ‘Because behavior’ is not a sufficient enough answer. Please give me something tangible.

@MafiaMenace- You have experience playing with/against WaywardSon. How does his game read to you so far?

@nutella- Think beyond WaywardSon. Who is he in league with and why?

@reywaS- Are you buying what Jay is selling?

@sloonei- On Day 1, both Eloh and Jay had two votes along with you. You voted for Eloh. You’ve tried to explain your vote for Eloh. I’d like you to explain to us why your mind wasn’t swayed to vote for Jay. What about his posts made him worth keeping around over Eloh?

@SpaceDaisy- Where the heck are you? Have you forgotten about us?

@sprityo- You mad, bro?

@WaywardSon- You have experience playing with/against MafiaMenace. How does his game read to you so far?

wayward wasnt that active in the game i played with him
he started off with very minimal content if at all, and he picked it up the closer it came to eod
nfm63

and he was town

Played the pony game also. That one was basically blown open on night 1 and it was a matter of getting rid of the scum the rest of the game. And you were scum in the game on MU. Which you were lynched day one.

oh right that game
i wasnt active there because i couldnt bother keeping up
i joined for shits and giggles

the only person i remember from that game is koolkid

Well after he blew it open Day 2 I was able to ride it to the end cause there wasn't any solving to do. Haven't been able to do that in most games.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:24 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:22 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:26 pm ISOed Sloonei. Has strong feelings/read on Epi(not ISOed.) Has been present and by virtue of asking questions of me is at least making the attempt to solve my slot as well as others. There is question to his EOD vote to break the tie between several players one of which was himself. I assume he voted on a PoE order of his. Absolutely nothing I wouldn't do in that situation. If you are town and in that situation you have an obligation to the game to vote to self pres as you know you are town. Hopefully your PoE is where you hit a scum. If not information is gathered. If you are scum then the same applies. You are obligated to preserve to further your wincon. Intentions of this slot will be sorted as the game progresses. As of this point it read nullish to very slight town. Will reassess once all Isos are completed as the T-N-S guage may need tweaking.

like.... what even is this

can you actually add content to that post instead of shading the guy?
youve been needlessly pointing out posts that are weird to you without a shred of reason

Get the feeling this is the MO. nutella is next

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:21 pm @G-Man I don't know, WS hasn't interacted enough with most players so almost anyone is compatible. Probably not Jay because Jay doesn't hard-bus that hard. I could maybe see WS and Sloonei as w/w since they have been constructing some interactions on this page and I'm not entirely convinced they aren't just theater. On the other hand, he's probably teammates with someone he hasn't interacted with at all, like sprityo or rey.

Your ISO is angry response, thats how I play, angry reponse, I provide content, shade, shade, shade, one liner, one liner, I provide context.

Just a question is it the norm on this site to predetermine who is scum and who is town based on past games? If so I guess I understand there are alot of those sites out there. And anyone new coming if sus from the start.

Your ISO is shallow. There's actually so lil content that you can't accurately make a read. It's all shade and reactions. Reads are superficial and weak.
Null until there's actual content.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:29 pm {nobody}
{jagged, wayward, epi, g-man}
{rest}
{nutella}
{nobody}

i would put g-man in the top bracket if i let my gut overrule my reason

im going to iso the most vocal players here in a bit

p-edit:
no, thats not a good enough reason to not provide reason yourself

ISOed. MM makes arguments and stances. Progession in his reads. He sorts the players he talks about. His ISO reads Town!MM. Town lean.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:59 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:51 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:29 pm
no, thats not a good enough reason to not provide reason yourself

It is in my view, gauging reactions is a huge part of gameplay

the post you made tells you nothing
you wanted to see people agree or disagree with you but there is nothing there
you made a post shading wayward, which is a majority of your iso at this point

The implication is that he is faking a read on sloonei because they were teammates. The post was clunky and overcomplicated analysis that ultimately resulted in a "neutral-to-town" conclusion. It sketched me out. K?

"shading wayward" is definitely not a majority of my iso.

Shading players in general IS the majority of your ISO. You can't demand that players give substantial content when what you give is bullshit reactionary shade.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:20 pm I just drove straight through from Waco Texas to Cincinnati. I’m tired. I can’t look at the game until tomorrow, I apologize guys.

Nothing.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:44 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:26 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:23 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:42 am so there was a 3 way tie between jay, sloonei, and eloh. which sloonei broke

the underlined was everyone who put a vote in thread and was their last vote yesterday

Yes. What are you thinking?

i mean. i can't say sloonei looks suspicious because it's technically self vote. but it was a 1/3 chance so i mean it's NAI im sure

That's probably the right way to read it. Anyone look suspicious?

....I share I think it was your or Nutella that epi’s antagonizing weirds me out, but I can’t decide if it’s him being town or mafia

He would be my best lead outside of Jay who what appears from our angle to change people’s alignments at a whim (but he says he’s actually hunting)

Then of course we have everyone who isn’t participating. I’m sure there’s one person who didn’t vote yesterday that is scum

Very little content to go on.

reywaS wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:01 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:59 pm meta is garbage

Some people on this site agree with you. Some don't. A lot of us use our past knowledge of each other's play to inform our reads, but it's never 100% of the reasoning for suspecting or townreading someone. It's just another tool at our disposal to supplement the current game's content. It may cloud judgment a little sometimes but we don't rely on it exclusively.

50 told me, go ahead and switch ya style up, and if they hate then let em hate and watch the money pile up.

ISO. What the f*** was that?
Memes. That's it. Kanye sucks so he probably should go in the PoE just for that. But there's nothing to go on here.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:19 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:17 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:17 am Lynch Sloonei. He complains about me wrecking the thread that wasn't a thread, but he is doing nothing. He can't do nothing. He's nothing. He's bad. He is parked on me and acting like that's something. Lynch him.

I’m still at work

Well I'm not.

ISO. Outside of the literally discussion there's not alot of content. Didn't like the sloonei vote on Elo for self pres. Has minimal reads.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:18 pm Listing you all becauses lists:

Slightly Positive Feelings Or Better:
-Epignosis
-reywaS
-Sloonei


Neutral/As Of Yet Undetermined Status:
-MafiaMenace
-Sabie
-Spacedaisy
-sprityo
-WaywardSon


Bad Juju Vibes:
-JaggedJimmyJay
-Nutella


The further we get into this game, the more I will try to force those in the middle group into the upper or lower group in my mind. Please show up/participate/give me something tangible that sorts you for me or you might not like where my mind puts you. If/once that line is crossed my ears will be deaf to your protestations.

This ISO reads town from once over. Game progression and scum hunting.

Town

GMan
MafiaMenance

Epi
Sloonei
reywaS
SpaceDaisey
sprityo

JaggedJimmyJay

Nutella

Meta is a useful tool; if applied properly.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:56 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:55 pm Meta is a useful tool; if applied properly.

ive never seen a meta read go down perfectly

Sometimes it is a dead give away. Other times it is a predictive device. It takes experience with a player and multiple games to set a norm or range as each alignment. But by no means is it perfect.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:06 pm

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:28 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:01 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:59 pm meta is garbage

Some people on this site agree with you. Some don't. A lot of us use our past knowledge of each other's play to inform our reads, but it's never 100% of the reasoning for suspecting or townreading someone. It's just another tool at our disposal to supplement the current game's content. It may cloud judgment a little sometimes but we don't rely on it exclusively.

50 told me, go ahead and switch ya style up, and if they hate then let em hate and watch the money pile up.

ISO. What the f*** was that?
Memes. That's it. Kanye sucks so he probably should go in the PoE just for that. But there's nothing to go on here.

Listen, Wayward. I’m really happy for you. I’ma let you finish but reywaS is playing one of the best games of all time! One of the best games of all time!

If you say so.

reywaS wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:25 pm

Fair enough.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:17 pm Dear G-Man:

G-Man- I do not suspect this person. If I had to name one person as a civilian, it's G-Man, because his thought process jives mostly with mine and he's doing the most work (although the bar hasn't been set real high). Would not lynch.

JJJ- I maintain a healthy suspicion of JJJ, as most of the time lynching him requires an act of God. I read his commentary on WaywardSon. It makes sense to me, but I had differing assumptions when I read WaywardSon's posts. I'll get to those at the end since Wayward starts with a W. For right now, I don't have any pressing reason to lynch JJJ unless I am right about Sloonei. Would not lynch.

MafiaMenace- I do not suspect this person. I give passes to new people Day 1 (and rey, who has returned from the dead, resurrected as an "artist" of questionable skill). MafiaMenace has earned an extension of that pass, because I like his stuff. He started out slow, but I can see a progression of thinking that feels natural and indicates sincerity. Would not lynch.

nutella- nutella gives me fits. I never get her right, so take whatever I have to say about her with a grain of salt (or the whole Morton company). I don't agree with G-Man that nutella fell into some trap of over-eagerness. nutella may be a Gullible-Ass Basic BitchTM, but I'm not buying that. Would not lynch.

reywaS- He is God's vessel. His greatest pain in life is that he will never be able to see himself perform live. Would lynch.

Sloonei- I suspect this person the most. Here is why if you missed it. Would lynch.

Spacedaisy- I've got nothing. Would lynch.

sprityo- The guy has 18 posts, and I do not see where this happened. Would lynch.

WaywardSon- As I said, the way JJJ framed WaywardSon's posts makes sense, but I had differing assumptions when I read them. For example:

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:16 pm So the thread isn't locked at night?

I would have thought, were WaywardSon annoyed by Night posting (because he was bad), he would have voiced his question to Colin privately, and not broadcasted it in the thread. I get that doesn't preclude his being mafia, but that was my own view. However, I have not forgotten this:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:58 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:05 pm im here for like 30 min
catching up

3:05pm EST

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:12 pm im putting catching up on hold
half an hour isnt enough time

3:12pm EST

That's seven minutes.

He tried to make it look like he had invested a half an hour in the thread, but had devoted a whopping seven minutes. Maybe where he's from, they don't have timestamps. Would lynch.

Um you have quotes that I didn't make, making your argument to lynch me?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:22 pm WaywardSon has been replaced by novaselinenever.

Never even answered the PM. Ok no problem.