The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:34 pm I didn't even read any of the options after cats. Cats is the objectively right answer, always, no matter what

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:02 pm OVERFLOWING WITH PURE MASCULINITY.

UNRELENTING WITH UNCONTROLLED FEMININITY.

MY NAME IS DRWILGY AND I AM MOST DEFINITELY A DOCTOR.

Pleasure to make your acquaintance. I like the feeling of cacti between my toes.

Would you say you have holy feet then?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 pm

Epi has never been more correct in his life.

He's town. Someone fight me on this.

Let me find some boxing gloves...

Are you serious or just fooling around at this point? I can never tell with you.

Also I find it interesting that some people didn't read the host's OP about the Day 0 poll, based on the way the votes have gone so far.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:38 pm Dragomir
Epignosis
MacDougall
Oreki
SokothQultuq

Civilians

Do you know something we don't?

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am Isn't Mac just listing the people who got assessed a vote for not voting correctly? I didn't take his post seriously.

Meanwhile we have to vote for someone today and it's going to be hard if people aren't posting content. So far nobody has said anything I can make a read off of yet. Does anyone have anything they think looks suspicious?

Today is my birthday by the way and I'm in another game too so I will be in and out.
Happy birthday!
I am suspicious of this Mac guy for now, because of the way he entered this day phase. He either knows something or he plays with us. I see it as a not wisemove to list yourself as town, that way he might approach us to trust him, but the nr 1 rule is not to trust anyone. I would vote off someone like him, so I expect him to tell us why he lists himself as town and this while we have no information.

I know I'm town. Does that mean I deserve a vote too?

Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:40 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:19 am I went sleep and came back and that's it? It is day one if I am correct and the people above me actually fluffed? Am I reading that correctly?
Wait, what is fluffing in this context?
Not spilling out the beans and playing AROUND the information. Like in Macs case, why he think them all are townies, but the comments on his case were kinda contentless.

And that was enough to go ahead and throw a vote on him? Would anyone else who creates such a list of who they believe to be town be worthy of such a vote too?

Linki: Well if you're not used to it, that makes sense. I know some people do it based on personal playstyles/what mafia environment they come from or are used to. But to each his own I guess.

There could be some people who benefited from voting a certain way on Day 0 and had information as such. I wouldn't put it past Spacedaisy to include that as a mechanic.

Honestly, that's something I wouldn't mind exploring further. The hostess clearly stated that there needed to be an equal number of votes for each option. Are we really going to believe that 7 people just didn't read that clarification?

If I have time this afternoon, I want to go back and explore that.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:20 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:16 pm Honestly, that's something I wouldn't mind exploring further. The hostess clearly stated that there needed to be an equal number of votes for each option. Are we really going to believe that 7 people just didn't read that clarification?

If I have time this afternoon, I want to go back and explore that.
Three people... the first four to vote were as legit as the rest of you, and not in danger of punishment. One of the three, Epi, already said he got drunk and forgot.

Who are the other two? Either I'm missing in the posts who they were or they never posted stating they were voting for space.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:28 pm
SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?
He got a reaction out of you.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:32 pm no point in shaking the bees nest if there's no bees in it

There is depending on if you think you might find bees or honey.

To be fair, Day 1s usually have very little to go on. Isn't it better to be as transparent as possible from the get go?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:37 pm So the poll would be ending soon then. The thing between kyle and creature is interesting.

What about it do you find interesting specifically?

FWIW I do feel like Creature has contributed a lot without contributing a lot. Looks just like a lot of fluff to me.

Linki: Fair enough. Depends on one's preference I guess.

Linki2: Ummmm.....both?

Me neither. I've never played with him before so I'm having a hard time getting a firm read other than what I said above.

Re: [Day 1] Better Off Ted FWIW I'm guessing we have until 7:18PM EST to vote.

FWIW I'm guessing we have until 7:18PM EST to vote.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:41 pm I've seen like 3 different people say the stuff between me and creature is interesting without saying why they think so and i disapprove

I mean I thought it was weird in that he assumed you were someone he knew elsewhere. I felt like he was trying to offer that up as a defense in an "Oh silly you, you know this is how I normally am!" kind of way.

But yeah, obviously people saying that it's interesting and not explaining why is always a nice way for baddies to try and blend in.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:45 pm
indiglo wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:38 pm Checking in, but very quickly. Welcome to all the new folks, and hello again to all the familiar faces!

I originally voted "Space" because it's clearly the best option, but after reading Daisy's post, I have changed to "Cars" because it needs more votes. I would encourage the extra "Space" voters to also change. Unless you really want your cubicle decorated with extra votes during Day 1. It looks like we're going to have to read Daisy's posts very carefully in this game!
Voting indiglo.

Can't tell if because of no-show or something else.

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:42 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:31 pm
SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?
what can i accomplish by not voting with my accusation that i can't accomplish better by voting?
I guess that seems to me like a very bold play to me to just drop a vote. I know they can be changed, but to me it looks aggressive with so much circumstantial evidence. But that's each persons play style I guess. It worked, you got peoples attention and got attention put on someone to start a conversation and get some information flying about.

To that point, your right Creature's posts are very ADHD. Meant to dive post count, but without substance in most cases. So just noise to filter out.
I feel like some of those posts in which he claims your another person seems like he feels that person or you had an axe to grind. (All the references to you being Inferno390)
The one thing that kind of stood out to me about the exchange that came about is they didn't really try to defend themselves all that much. Just agreeing with my posts but no real defense. Seems like a play towards "They dont like me from another site game, I'm being targeted" without saying it as much.
But I find a lack of substance to Creatures posting so far.
Anyone else see anything that stood out about Creature?

Did you really find his response to be that defensive? The whole thinking he knew kyle from another site came off in a much more joking kind of way to me. I do agree that it's a complete lack of a defense either way though.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:13 pm my reasoning is that he seems anxious, he made posts about how there's been nothing going on and how it's bothered him but hasn't made much personal effort to stir discussion up himself. he's made offhand comments but no running comments until basically an hour ago. that's not to say he's the only one in that boat but he sticks out to me because of that/ it seems disingenuous.
Damn, I think this community is primitive if this would be treated as an actual case.

Then what have you seen so far that is worth examining from Day 0 and 1?

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:50 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:13 pm my reasoning is that he seems anxious, he made posts about how there's been nothing going on and how it's bothered him but hasn't made much personal effort to stir discussion up himself. he's made offhand comments but no running comments until basically an hour ago. that's not to say he's the only one in that boat but he sticks out to me because of that/ it seems disingenuous.
Damn, I think this community is primitive if this would be treated as an actual case.
And here I was thinking I would share my Honey Roasted Cave Bear with everyone. None for you!

No thanks. I've heard bear meat is quite oily.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:50 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:16 pm what is creatures like normally? in normal games
Dunno, has someone played with me before on one of the other two communities I regularly play on? It's quite a travel...

Would that affect how your current interactions are being viewed?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:51 pm
SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:29 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:57 pm also alphabetical order looks like a mafia tell.
Question - is this really a thing? Putting a list in alphabetical order is a Mafia Tell?
I usually do that because I fear players would try to read my order if it's non-alphabetical.

Why does if a list is alphabetical or not play any part on if someone is a civvie or baddie?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:41 pm Just that kyle seemed so sure creature is bad and took awhile to explain where that thought came from. And creature thinks kyle is some other person. It was weird. Also hi LC! People actually do call me sabbz haha.

Idk maybe kyle is just trying to put pressure on creature and get some conversation going

Still waiting on an actual response here and not just going with the flow.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:56 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:54 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:41 pm Just that kyle seemed so sure creature is bad and took awhile to explain where that thought came from. And creature thinks kyle is some other person. It was weird. Also hi LC! People actually do call me sabbz haha.

Idk maybe kyle is just trying to put pressure on creature and get some conversation going
Still waiting on an actual response here and not just going with the flow.
did you want a response from me or sabie

Sorry, I meant sabie. Should have clarified that better.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:01 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:51 pm
SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:50 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:13 pm my reasoning is that he seems anxious, he made posts about how there's been nothing going on and how it's bothered him but hasn't made much personal effort to stir discussion up himself. he's made offhand comments but no running comments until basically an hour ago. that's not to say he's the only one in that boat but he sticks out to me because of that/ it seems disingenuous.
Damn, I think this community is primitive if this would be treated as an actual case.
And here I was thinking I would share my Honey Roasted Cave Bear with everyone. None for you!
No thanks. I've heard bear meat is quite oily.
I've had bear sausage and it was quite delicious.

I'm really curious now what you're planning on cooking for us in July.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:02 pm MacDougall, sabie12, Sokoth, maybe indiglo if we decide to follow Epi.

Am fine doing any of these.

I would be fine with sabie12 or indiglo. Why Sokoth or MacDougall though?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:06 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:01 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:58 pm I think either one of them could be bad
We're both town
See that's a weird thing to say unless you're townie teammates or something how would you know you're both town? Unless you're both bad and kyle is distancing from you.

Why would a baddie teammate need to distance from a teammate on Day 1? That feels awfully forced.

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:13 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:02 pm MacDougall, sabie12, Sokoth, maybe indiglo if we decide to follow Epi.

Am fine doing any of these.
Love the misdirection you did there Creature. You get accused and voted. I jump in to try and clarify why, someone has a good enough reason to make me doubt that they are the bad guy and present somewhat of a case, it comes full circle to you now, so you just dump that off on me now. Very nice. LOL

Now that he's come back and responded a bit more, I don't think so. Unless teammates distancing on Day 1 is somehow a common occurrence in mafia now, I think kyle and creature are both civs at this point.

A response like this on the other hand feels like someone attempting to misdirect a non-misdirection.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:10 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:08 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:56 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:54 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:41 pm Just that kyle seemed so sure creature is bad and took awhile to explain where that thought came from. And creature thinks kyle is some other person. It was weird. Also hi LC! People actually do call me sabbz haha.

Idk maybe kyle is just trying to put pressure on creature and get some conversation going
Still waiting on an actual response here and not just going with the flow.
did you want a response from me or sabie
Sorry, I meant sabie. Should have clarified that better.
Did my clarification suffice or were you looking for more information?

It sufficed in a way. I'm currently between you, Sokoth, or Indiglo for a vote today.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 3:05 pm @Spacedaisy the poll doesn't appear to have an end time ((
Awe shit. 6pm EST was my goal y'all so we're closing this puppy down in 15 minutes to stay close to that.

Aw crap. Need to decide pretty soon then...

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:15 pm I hope sabie12 doesn't genuinely think I claimed info that Kyle is town.

I don't think she is. But her facepalm-inducing reaction came off as someone trying to make a whole lot out of nothing. Same with Sokoth tbh.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:18 pm Okay, I'll feel bad if I'm wrong on Sokoth because I think he justified that jump on Kyle and it could still come from town anyway, but he still seems meh to me.

So would you say he's more on the neutral side or on the potentially bad side? Because I'm still leaning the second one.

I think my vote is going to either to him or sadie at this point.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:25 pm i guess maybe i should google words before i say them sometimes

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:28 pm Do we have less than an hour?

About 50 minutes.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:27 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:23 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:18 pm Okay, I'll feel bad if I'm wrong on Sokoth because I think he justified that jump on Kyle and it could still come from town anyway, but he still seems meh to me.
So would you say he's more on the neutral side or on the potentially bad side? Because I'm still leaning the second one.

I think my vote is going to either to him or sadie at this point.
Considering he OMGUSed me, I wouldn't mind him dying.

Between him and sadie, who do you currently feel worse about?

I'm leaning towards sadie myself. I don't agree with Sokoth's logic to tie you and kyle in as teammates. But I've seen civvies make the same faulty argument before so there is a chance IMO it's coming from that. I keep feeling like sadie continues to expound on the initial interaction between you and kyle being weird without adding anything else to it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:31 pm I'm quite surprised nutella jumped onto indiglo like that.

Did she actually post why? I can't find one anywhere. So maybe she just did a hit-and-run vote?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:32 pm Starting to think indiglo is a mislynch or atleast not groupscum

I mean, I don't like any of the candidates who have votes at this point.

I know we can change votes, but I'm pretty certain at this point on who is getting mine. I just feel like the indiglo and Creature votes are potentially easy lynches for baddies to hide behind.

[VOTE: ]Sabie12] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:51 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:50 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:50 pm I agree, I'm also going to [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine.
Why?
Creature demands justification from someone voting in his favor.

Why could that be?

Are you sharing with the rest of the class or not?

5 votes still missing...

Linki: Dr. Wilgy has never seemed serious to me. Maybe that's his persona?

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:04 pm I'm going to go ahead and get my vote on the board:

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

Linki - posting, then reading

Wait, what?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:07 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Let's have three wagons

Wait, WAT?!?!

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:12 pm [VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

Because I'm now paranoid about sabie, and also I realized I forgot to put my sabie vote on the poll.

WAIT, WHAT?!?!?!

I think there is some chicanery going on now.

I literally haven't seen anything from Wilgy in this game that would indicate which allegiance he is a part of. Just seems like he's being himself. Either that or I've missed something, but I'm just not seeing it.

As much as I trust Kyle and Creature right now, I just don't get the switch to Wilgy at the last second.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:18 pm Oh, I think it will end on sabie

Well you were certainly correct on that one.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:17 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:16 pm As much as I trust Kyle and Creature right now, I just don't get the switch to Wilgy at the last second.
keeps C off the table, i guess. i'm kind of unclear on sabie

I mean I get that, I just don't see anything that makes me think Wilgy is bad. How are you unclear on sabie?

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:20 pm Tossing mine last minute

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine

Oh, linki with Daisy LMAO

You come in close to the last minute and then move your vote between 3 different people very quickly. Why?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:25 pm That DrWilgy wagon for some reason gained a lot of resistance now that I take a closer look.

What about any of his posts made him come off as bad? That's the part I don't get.

Linki: Well that sucks.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:23 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:22 pm
indiglo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:20 pm Tossing mine last minute

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine

Oh, linki with Daisy LMAO
You come in close to the last minute and then move your vote between 3 different people very quickly. Why?
Because votes are changeable?

Or because you were rushed and made some terrible life choices.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:28 pm Is the thread supposed to be open?

It is. Discussion is allowed to occur here at night.

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