The Syndicate

Ain't reading 30 pages. Who's bad?

Ok but seriously I don't want to read this whole game tonight, can somebody maybe point me towards some of the big moments of D1?

Otherwise I'm just gonna ISO Epi and adopt all his reads.

[VOTE: wolbre04 ] aubergine

Epivote.

Going to ISO wolbre and maybe read Mac's case on sloonbeard.

Thoughts from catching up:
- Stop saying Mac is tunneling
- voting off-wagon d1 doesn't concern me much, but I haven't read Colin's post in context yet
- [mention]wolbre04[/mention] we have 36 hours to go why are you worried about a single vote on you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:49 am
Choutas wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 am What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.
All games become broken at some point as they unfold. You could just as easily make that comment if they all side with one of the other factions.

That being said. Heaps civvie sounding complaint.

Agreed. At first it pinged me hard, but then I remembered that the leaders have BTSC with the League, and obvi mafia has BTSC with each other, so mafia would've just passed this thought along to the League rather than in the thread.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:51 am MacDougall care to give me a snap judgment first thought on my scumteam idea before I fall asleep?

Not mac but I dont like you proposing an entire team on d2.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:56 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:53 am
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:51 am MacDougall care to give me a snap judgment first thought on my scumteam idea before I fall asleep?
Not mac but I dont like you proposing an entire team on d2.
Why? You don't think I can catch an entire team on d2? I've done it before. I've also seen entire scum teams caught on day 1 (I miss manu).

We haven't played a tonne together before, but welcome to What I Do. I believe in 'theory of the game'. A scum read is useless if you look around and realise a person has no team compatablities. Look around and find team-indicative behaviour, and you up your chances of having found something useful.

Don't play the idea, play the specific team I'm proposing and underlying assumptions I'm making.

I've also seen people claim a role that has been established as bad before. Doesn't mean we should play like it's a likely possibility.

I agree with checking to see if suspects are team-compatible but I don't think that type of analysis is very useful until you have mafia reveals and/or endgame scenarios. You're layering assumptions on assumptions, and it feels like building a castle on sand.

Add to that stuff like a mafia deciding to hardcore bus/distance like in FE.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:23 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:22 pm And Mac if you’d been here I would have joined you in pushing the thread in another direction. I regret that MP had to leave just when he did. I was trying to catch up and never fully engaged with him in real time, that could have lead to better results.
Ugh, I just have to respond to this. I feel like a giant egghead for the sig mislynch. I officially can't read the guy, and I should have trusted my earlier self that was townreading him, because I got caught up in the moment and really thought he was the best option we had available. It was pretty difficult to develop any counterwagon at the time, but I regret my actions; I should have just stuck with Luna or went somewhere else I guess.

Ew.

[VOTE: M+7] aubergine

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:37 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:36 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:23 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:22 pm And Mac if you’d been here I would have joined you in pushing the thread in another direction. I regret that MP had to leave just when he did. I was trying to catch up and never fully engaged with him in real time, that could have lead to better results.
Ugh, I just have to respond to this. I feel like a giant egghead for the sig mislynch. I officially can't read the guy, and I should have trusted my earlier self that was townreading him, because I got caught up in the moment and really thought he was the best option we had available. It was pretty difficult to develop any counterwagon at the time, but I regret my actions; I should have just stuck with Luna or went somewhere else I guess.
Ew.

[VOTE: M+7] aubergine
Explain.

You're apologizing and distancing from a D1 civ lynch. It was D1, the odds were always that it would be a civ. That's how the game works. Why would you feel guilty about that?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:44 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:42 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:37 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:36 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:23 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:22 pm And Mac if you’d been here I would have joined you in pushing the thread in another direction. I regret that MP had to leave just when he did. I was trying to catch up and never fully engaged with him in real time, that could have lead to better results.
Ugh, I just have to respond to this. I feel like a giant egghead for the sig mislynch. I officially can't read the guy, and I should have trusted my earlier self that was townreading him, because I got caught up in the moment and really thought he was the best option we had available. It was pretty difficult to develop any counterwagon at the time, but I regret my actions; I should have just stuck with Luna or went somewhere else I guess.
Ew.

[VOTE: M+7] aubergine
Explain.
You're apologizing and distancing from a D1 civ lynch. It was D1, the odds were always that it would be a civ. That's how the game works. Why would you feel guilty about that?
I'm not distancing. At all. That's the opposite of what I'm doing; I take full responsibility for my sig vote. Of course I regret it. Why wouldn't I feel guilty about mislynching a fellow townie?

"I voted him, but only because I didn't believe in myself" (paraphrased) - aka you let yourself get pushed into a Sig vote by the thread. Convenient way of deflecting blame onto others without having to specifically name anybody.

And again because it's D1. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. (Unless it's [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]'s heist game and [mention]speedchuck[/mention] and I are scummates

)

Still need to catch up on the last 4 pages or so, but up until then I haven't seen much to make me want to change my vote. Gonna ISO MP before eod.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:27 pm Posting at work.

[VOTE: SLOONEI] aubergine

Non-wagon voters, better hitch to one, lest ye be accused and misidentified as scum...

Nah.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:24 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:20 pm Botes Sloonei cause wtf I love ties now.
Got any important thoughts to share yet?

Would vote Jack. Feels like he's trying very hard to be casual.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:02 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:44 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:42 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:37 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:36 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:23 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:22 pm And Mac if you’d been here I would have joined you in pushing the thread in another direction. I regret that MP had to leave just when he did. I was trying to catch up and never fully engaged with him in real time, that could have lead to better results.
Ugh, I just have to respond to this. I feel like a giant egghead for the sig mislynch. I officially can't read the guy, and I should have trusted my earlier self that was townreading him, because I got caught up in the moment and really thought he was the best option we had available. It was pretty difficult to develop any counterwagon at the time, but I regret my actions; I should have just stuck with Luna or went somewhere else I guess.
Ew.

[VOTE: M+7] aubergine
Explain.
You're apologizing and distancing from a D1 civ lynch. It was D1, the odds were always that it would be a civ. That's how the game works. Why would you feel guilty about that?
I'm not distancing. At all. That's the opposite of what I'm doing; I take full responsibility for my sig vote. Of course I regret it. Why wouldn't I feel guilty about mislynching a fellow townie?
"I voted him, but only because I didn't believe in myself" (paraphrased) - aka you let yourself get pushed into a Sig vote by the thread. Convenient way of deflecting blame onto others without having to specifically name anybody.

And again because it's D1. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. (Unless it's JaggedJimmyJay's heist game and speedchuck and I are scummates )

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

And I remain thus far unconvinced by other cases.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:42 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:37 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:02 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:44 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:42 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:37 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:36 am
Ew.

[VOTE: M+7] aubergine
Explain.
You're apologizing and distancing from a D1 civ lynch. It was D1, the odds were always that it would be a civ. That's how the game works. Why would you feel guilty about that?
I'm not distancing. At all. That's the opposite of what I'm doing; I take full responsibility for my sig vote. Of course I regret it. Why wouldn't I feel guilty about mislynching a fellow townie?
"I voted him, but only because I didn't believe in myself" (paraphrased) - aka you let yourself get pushed into a Sig vote by the thread. Convenient way of deflecting blame onto others without having to specifically name anybody.

And again because it's D1. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. (Unless it's JaggedJimmyJay's heist game and speedchuck and I are scummates )
Sloonei

And I remain thus far unconvinced by other cases.
This doesn't particularly alarm me coming from MP. He does not hide his emotions in games and isn't afraid to get swept up in momentum or impulsive voting. He'll follow voters if he feels like they're onto something, and then changes his mind a thousand times and feels bad if he's wrong.
What is your experience playing with him?

Don't have any strong recollections. Idk if we've ever played together in a real game. (Realms/Syndicate crossover doesn't count since I was killed n1)

The sloonbeard train feels like GoC redux to me.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:57 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:02 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:44 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:42 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:37 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:36 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:23 am

Ugh, I just have to respond to this. I feel like a giant egghead for the sig mislynch. I officially can't read the guy, and I should have trusted my earlier self that was townreading him, because I got caught up in the moment and really thought he was the best option we had available. It was pretty difficult to develop any counterwagon at the time, but I regret my actions; I should have just stuck with Luna or went somewhere else I guess.
Ew.

[VOTE: M+7] aubergine
Explain.
You're apologizing and distancing from a D1 civ lynch. It was D1, the odds were always that it would be a civ. That's how the game works. Why would you feel guilty about that?
I'm not distancing. At all. That's the opposite of what I'm doing; I take full responsibility for my sig vote. Of course I regret it. Why wouldn't I feel guilty about mislynching a fellow townie?
"I voted him, but only because I didn't believe in myself" (paraphrased) - aka you let yourself get pushed into a Sig vote by the thread. Convenient way of deflecting blame onto others without having to specifically name anybody.

And again because it's D1. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. (Unless it's JaggedJimmyJay's heist game and speedchuck and I are scummates )
That's not what I said; stop misrepresenting me. I regretted I didn't go with another option; inherent in that is that I'm taking full responsibility.

"Caught up in the moment"
"Best option we had available"
"Difficult to develop any counterwagon"

Those are the specific phases that stuck out to me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:00 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:58 pm The sloonbeard train feels like GoC redux to me.

In GoC, Sloonei caught a lot of heat and end up mislynched because his activity level was lower than normal.

(Thankfully it was his first life so he lived to endgame still)

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:02 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:01 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:57 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:02 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:44 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:42 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:37 am

Explain.
You're apologizing and distancing from a D1 civ lynch. It was D1, the odds were always that it would be a civ. That's how the game works. Why would you feel guilty about that?
I'm not distancing. At all. That's the opposite of what I'm doing; I take full responsibility for my sig vote. Of course I regret it. Why wouldn't I feel guilty about mislynching a fellow townie?
"I voted him, but only because I didn't believe in myself" (paraphrased) - aka you let yourself get pushed into a Sig vote by the thread. Convenient way of deflecting blame onto others without having to specifically name anybody.

And again because it's D1. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. (Unless it's JaggedJimmyJay's heist game and speedchuck and I are scummates )
That's not what I said; stop misrepresenting me. I regretted I didn't go with another option; inherent in that is that I'm taking full responsibility.
"Caught up in the moment"
"Best option we had available"
"Difficult to develop any counterwagon"

Those are the specific phases that stuck out to me
What's your point? Those are all evident from my post history if you read my thoughts in real time during EoD D1.

Haven't done that yet. I replaced in beginning of d2 without having read anything, made a conscious decision to not reread the entire thread. Did a few ISOs, haven't done yours yet. Was busy last night and today. Will ISO you before EoD.

ISO'd MP. Saw the progression of the sig vote. No longer concerned with him

Lunalee - that golden vote tho

Colin's utter silence seems bad news bears as well. I'm not very convinced about the initial case still but would think a townie offers at least a little more?

[VOTE: colin ] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:20 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:16 pm Why is kites/quin a more confident read than lapluie/cbob? speedchuck
I have a quindar. I don't have a cbobbar.

Apparently nobody does!

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:21 pm Just for the record I'm at work now, I'll just leave my vote where it is since the masses are going to decide anyway and it's going to be Colin clearly.

Pretend your vote is the only one that matters. Who does it land on?

Va-va-voom.

I guess we just go through Goldens scumteam right? Gg bois

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:51 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:50 pm Va-va-voom.

I guess we just go through Goldens scumteam right? Gg bois
No no, but please let's discuss it.

I feel you. I can admit when I'm wrong. Also lunalee set off big pings today which helps.

But right now I'm taking advantage of the time before my wife comes home to play Breath of the Wild.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:33 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:31 pm Mac, gun to your head who are the remaining 3 scum
I'm going to apologize in advance as I work 12 hour shifts Friday nights and Saturday nights starting at 11 pm - so I'm going to be few and far between. (I'll send the pay stubs screenshots if you want proof :P )
Lunalee, Sloonei, Long Con
Thanks, Ima look at the pm when I'm on break

Scumslip, Mac and wolbre w/w lock it in

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:10 pm
Spoiler: show
We have received word of a prophecy of the pythia from the Oracle at Delphi.

Choutas is clouding his eyes with a focus on principles only
Dougall looks great and he should be a beacon for rational thinkers
Listen to words from the gods who say Golden and Empee are townies
Speedchuck is trustworthy, Luna and Kyle we can safely rely on
Persians amongst us, but sloonei was lynched and we cheered to the heavens
I can't believe my luck, guys. I was literally just town confirmed by an oracle.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:17 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:12 pm Sloonei, I can be convinced you aren't bad, but what I really hope to see from you today are gut reads on everyone - not based on reading the whole thread or anything, I just want to know where your head is at. So far you've spent your whole time in a defensive mode that I don't particularly think looks good on you (for instance, calling out your voters as having given you nothing to defend against). Don't defend. Hunt.

Interactive analyses such as you have time for would be great.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:10 pm Choutas is clouding his eyes with a focus on principles only
Dougall looks great and he should be a beacon for rational thinkers
Listen to words from the gods who say Golden and Empee are townies
Speedchuck is trustworthy, Luna and Kyle we can safely rely on
Persians amongst us, but sloonei was lynched and we cheered to the heavens
What about this convinces you that Sloonei is not bad? I'm putting my vote on him today.
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Why are you treating the Oracle like it's definitive rather than just a player's opinions?

What's the case on Choutas? I'ma be honest and say I haven't read Sloonbeard's Colin interaction posts yet. Is there anything besides that?

Choutas wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 am What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.

Choutas is civ stop voting him plz

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:23 am cbob, who should we vote for instead?

Right now leaning LC or Lunalee. But I still need to do my investigating.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:07 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:34 am I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?
It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.
I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:54 pm I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] what changed between these two posts?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:40 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:35 am
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:07 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:34 am I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?
It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.
I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:54 pm I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
@Lunalee what changed between these two posts?
I ditched my Long Con vote because my single vote on him was not going to do anything. I switched to Sloonei because of the two lynch trains, I felt most confident about his. I am still suspicious of both Sloonei and Long Con.

But those votes were less than an hour apart?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:50 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:42 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:40 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:35 am
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:07 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:34 am I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?
It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.
I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:54 pm I'm still not happy with my current vote on LongCon. Golden, you're posts are looking pretty solid to me. I think I'm going to hop over to sloonei
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
@Lunalee what changed between these two posts?
I ditched my Long Con vote because my single vote on him was not going to do anything. I switched to Sloonei because of the two lynch trains, I felt most confident about his. I am still suspicious of both Sloonei and Long Con.
But those votes were less than an hour apart?
True. I mistakenly thought the poll ended at 5, so I was quick to jump. I realized later that I had another day.

But that doesn't come through in the post at all. Your first post days you're in on LC. If you were concerned about being the only vote there, why put it down in the first place?

Then the second post says "still not happy with LC vote". So aside from the word still, there's no mention of "day is ending" or "I want my vote to be productive". In fact, the first post explicitly calls out the fact that nobody is voting LC, and you still seemed happy with the vote.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:19 am
Choutas wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 am What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.
Choutas is civ stop voting him plz

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:18 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:13 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:19 am
Choutas wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 am What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.
Choutas is civ stop voting him plz
Sloonei
Why do you feel this way?

If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:19 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:14 pm [VOTE: lunalee] aubergine
And why this? What do you think of what scotty is saying in his most recent posts?

He's making good points. Haven't had time to read his LC/Colin post yet (which is after the post I'm replying to anyway). But my impression is he still leans bad on lunalee.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:35 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:18 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:13 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:19 am
Choutas wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 am What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.
Choutas is civ stop voting him plz
Sloonei
Why do you feel this way?
If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.
Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?

Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:35 pm Given Colin's push to lynch luna

Objection, he was voting off-wagon close to EoD. That's hardly a push.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:54 pm Pretty sure a chouta is kinda like a sopapilla.
What's a sopapilla?

Way more appetizing than nutella on cheese.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:06 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:35 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:18 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:13 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:19 am

Choutas is civ stop voting him plz
Sloonei
Why do you feel this way?
If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.
Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?
Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?
wait what

If Choutas is mafia, and thinks getting all 3 league members to side with mafia breaks the game, why would he announce that in-thread?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:08 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:35 pm Given Colin's push to lynch luna
Objection, he was voting off-wagon close to EoD. That's hardly a push.
sustained. There was a consistent effort on colin's part to smear luna, though.

Point it out to me, cause I'm not seeing it. It could easily be distancing from where I sit.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:12 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:06 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:35 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:18 pm
Why do you feel this way?
If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.
Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?
Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?
wait what
If Choutas is mafia, and thinks getting all 3 league members to side with mafia breaks the game, why would he announce that in-thread?
Why wouldn't he?

Because he can just tell the league members in their BTSC? (Or he can mention it in baddie chat and whoever is darius can do the same)

People who are voting LC because of his Colin defense - why havent any of you expressed suspicion of me?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:33 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:31 pm People who are voting LC because of his Colin defense - why havent any of you expressed suspicion of me?
There's too many players in this game to keep tabs on all of you aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Long Con currently has 8 votes and the day ends in ~30 minutes.

Yeah but those second two things don't really explain it because people have had 3 days?

Ok, operating under the assumption that luna is the Oracle (which I'm not sure I agree with, given her reaction yesterday), I plan on looking into dunya, nova, jack, and marmot.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:32 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:26 am Ok, operating under the assumption that luna is the Oracle (which I'm not sure I agree with, given her reaction yesterday), I plan on looking into dunya, nova, jack, and marmot.
It’s a bad assumption. When it came up yesterday I looked at her thread reads and they were basically the opposite of the oracle. I think it’s a big leap for her to be in that role.

But I think dunya, nova and jack are good places to look anyway.

I just think it's weird the Oracle mentioned her twice. If she's on the table, then Sloonei is too, I think.

First thought on nova: meh doesn't seem real scummy to me. Will reread in context.

Now for some hot ISO action

Luna/Daisy/Marmot scumteam?

Nvm marmot changed his vote

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:43 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:42 pm Luna/Daisy/Marmot scumteam?
How did marmot get in here?

Linki.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:48 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:43 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:42 pm Luna/Daisy/Marmot scumteam?
How did marmot get in here?
Linki.
What was your thought process there?

"What suspicious behavior from Daisy, I think I'll vote nova"

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