The Syndicate

I am here. whoa! what a game.

fair warning, I'll be travelling April 24th till May 4th so don't expect crazy dunia level of activity. kthx.

lots of people I haven't played with before, and Choutas!!!!!!! we haven't played together since mid-RYM mafia days. it's gonna be interesting.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:52 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:47 pm I am here. whoa! what a game.

fair warning, I'll be travelling April 24th till May 4th so don't expect crazy dunia level of activity. kthx.

lots of people I haven't played with before, and Choutas!!!!!!! we haven't played together since mid-RYM mafia days. it's gonna be interesting.

You're mafia, aren't you?

I'm very much town. What about you?

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:40 pmWhatdd up

nice to have you back <3

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:08 am Hello everybody! I am the facilitator for this game. As JJJ said in his first rule, please be mindful of how your words might affect others beyond the scope of a mafia game. If you find yourself irritated, frustrated or downright angry at someone else please contact me to work through that. Please do not erupt in the thread and please refrain from throwing personal insults at another person. I am fine with you yelling at or insulting me instead! Also note if I think I see something brewing I will reach out to you and see if I can help.

A word about my schedule: I work from about 10:00 to 1:15 three to four days a week so I'm out of the thread those days from about 9:30 am - 1:30 pm. If you try to contact me during that time know that I will get back to you as soon as I get home. Finally, this is an awesome players list and I'm jealous that I'm not playing with you. And welcome new people, yay!

thank you, juliets! you're my fav! <3 I'll be sure to check in with you at various points in this game, don't worry.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:31 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:25 am Oh and hello new faces! I would like to extend the olive branch to you at least in Day 1- I won’t be voting for you.

But if you’re a mime I’ll be all over your ass. That’s my exception.

Toodles!

This man is town.

why?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

what are you implying? why did you choose to call sig out on this but not Sloonei for his meta-comments on Choutas/Colin/Kites from RYM a post above yours?

Choutas wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:03 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:08 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:46 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:20 am So wait hold up, we're getting conquered and shit because we couldn't all just get along? Is that the story?

That's pretty much history, right?

Some people claim that there's a woman to blame.

That predates classical antiquity. If anything it united the city states against another flourishing rival. The trojan war was a necessity and according to Virgil and the Aeneid it eventually led to the foundation of Rome.

oh god, let me put my smart glasses on before reading this thread...

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] - how are ties handled in this game?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:14 pm Votes are changeable

why marmot?

i'm leaning towards a scotty vote. is he usually sincere? is not voting for people you've never played with general etiquette? i've never played with him before but letting everyone he's never played with avoid his day 1 vote seems like a good way to seem friendly and agreeable.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:26 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:05 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

what are you implying? why did you choose to call sig out on this but not Sloonei for his meta-comments on Choutas/Colin/Kites from RYM a post above yours?

I'm not implying anything; I just thought it was a bit presumptuous for sig to be all like "here's some info about wolbre!" before anyone even asked. It's sig though (I love the guy but he does say things without being prompted, so it's not out of character), and I don't think there's anything meaningful there upon reflection.

so in your own words, sig is being sig (sic).

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:27 pm Also, I realized I didn't fully answer your question, sorry. Sloonei's post didn't rub me the same way. sig's had a tone that was like, incredibly excited to talk about it. Sloonei's didn't.

I agree with that. sig's post was more excited overall, but I don't know how to use that to reflect on his alignment.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:33 pm What kind of question is "is he usually sincere?" What does that even mean? Explain.

well, is he being sincere in his reasons to not vote for people he's never played with on day 1, giving us carte blance just cos we're new to him. or is he someone who can use fake sincerity for other motives.

players like Kenway, Glorf, and even Kites are sincere players imo. I'm asking if Scotty is similar or more deceitful in general.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:33 pm For some players, sure. Tends to be more so for LP-based players or old timers, but in my assessment it's not strikingly out of character for Scotty to say something like this if that's what you're wondering. Typically Scotty likes to vote for lower-participants or lurkers on Day 1; he usually has some sort of underlying method to his early votes.

okay.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:33 pm And I can assume that you are taking this a step forward and implying Scotty is being disingenuous? Why single him out for that, instead of someone such as yours truly who has made a few posts that could be considered overly friendly so far?

i've called you out on plenty of things already, but being overly friendly is not one of them. I didn't call Scotty overly friendly either, I'm saying his post implies an agreeable tone that people would struggle to go against.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:36 pm FTR, dunya, I'm just trying to get inside your brain here. I presume you're doing the same with me.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:02 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:58 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

Good to know nonetheless. Looking forward to playing with you, wolbre!

I don't like this post its weird, light scum ping on MP

So sig is confusing 'weird' for 'bad' I think - understandable when the weird is directed at him, I think.

Sig - I think you were bad with MP in the scrimmage game, right? Did you think he was 'weird' then?

but wasn't it weird? I'm going to channel my inner Jay for a moment here and say that every post we make has a purpose, intentional or not. maybe MP didn't realize it, but even subconsciously, his pondering of sig's motive meant something. let's go back to meta and histories, sig is famously known to be easily mislynched for being shady. I learned that the hard way when I led for his mislynch in a game and everyone beat the crap put of me. I just wasn't crazy about how fast MP dropped sig like a hot potato, kind of retracting his earlier push by concluding sig is being sig.

Like I said, channeling inner Jay, everything has a purpose..

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 am The one that stands out the most right now is dunya's vote for scotty - I have no history with dunya, but dunya has no history with scotty. It's possible it stands out for 'culture clash' reasons.

I dunno. I prodded Scotty for info on his personality both from Scotty and others, and backed it up with a vote. My vote and questioning his motives and sincerity has created discussion. This is a good thing. We have 48 hours; my vote's moving all over the place before I make a more informed Day 1 decision.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:39 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:28 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:14 pm Votes are changeable

why marmot?

i'm leaning towards a scotty vote. is he usually sincere? is not voting for people you've never played with general etiquette? i've never played with him before but letting everyone he's never played with avoid his day 1 vote seems like a good way to seem friendly and agreeable.

Okay. A few things.

What kind of question is "is he usually sincere?" What does that even mean? Explain.

For some players, sure. Tends to be more so for LP-based players or old timers, but in my assessment it's not strikingly out of character for Scotty to say something like this if that's what you're wondering. Typically Scotty likes to vote for lower-participants or lurkers on Day 1; he usually has some sort of underlying method to his early votes.

And I can assume that you are taking this a step forward and implying Scotty is being disingenuous? Why single him out for that, instead of someone such as yours truly who has made a few posts that could be considered overly friendly so far?

First MP begins to talk. Then his words become more and more sarcastic, until he dies. When he resurrects he becomes completely pedantic.

But I'm digging his line of undead pedantic sarcastic questioning, so I'll give it a town read.

???

was MP being sarcastic with me? I just thought he was using those tags for color differences. I feel stupid now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:40 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:25 pm I was up to date with the thread briefly and it's all downhill from here.

If I had to put money on MPs alignment, it's town. Like, literally his first post pinged people. That seems like town MP to me.

Does that say anything about the people he pinged?

what does it say about us to YOU, is the question, speedchuck.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:45 pm @Golden what's ur recent history? did u play/host many games while i wasn't around

kyle is being kyle with his data gathering methods. digging this.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:11 pm Actually, before I leave, I thought I should place a vote somewhere since they are changeable.

I naturally hate making scum reads this early because I'm almost always wrong at this stage and with this little thread evidence, but at this moment I'm throwing a vote at dunya. GTH she's doing exactly what I would expect her to be doing right now if mafia, and that's trying to act as if she's town but latching onto a low-hanging fruit suspect (Scotty), and from a tone POV I'm not sure I actually believe she believes what she's saying about him.

That said, I'm not sure how much of this perspective could be a result of me failing to understand where her head is at, as well as a bit of a NO U (even though I'm not even clear if she actually suspects me at all). Further, she is actually in here giving us our takes in real time which is commendable and otherwise might earn her some points from me if I was not so confused as to her POV. Consequently, I'm reserving any actual scum read until she can come in and clarify further regarding her previous lines of questioning, but I'll at least give her a vote because if I had to guess any of the active players was scum right now, it'd be her.

Okay, now

this was such a wordy justification all based around my first day 1 vote, and you're right, it is oozing NO U but I kind of expect that from you (I'm guilty of it too don't worry). I could have easily friended you when you asked me "we're just feeling each other out and seeing where our heads are at right dunya" but I didn't want you to feel comfortable with me that fast, and I don't want to feel comfortable with you so fast either. I also don't like how big an issue you're making with my valid questions and vote when you are the king of vote prodding. It's Day 1, we're casting right now and seeing what sticks; don't act like the concept is alien to you when you probably co-founded it.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:03 pm MP is shady as shit when town;

is he not shady as shit when he's scum?

are you saying you're finding MP shady as shit atm?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:38 pm dunya it’s funny you’re questioning my sincerity because I was questioned by SVS about that in GOC and I was very town. I could very well be mafia here (and sorry teammates, if I am) but I still haven’t checked my role card.

I’ll check it later tonight when I get home

It's not personal and I don't think you seem insincere, I just want to know the personality behind the player. I feel like I can form better reads when I have a real grasp on someone's personality in the game. There are lines certain people don't cross, and it helps to make those distinctions if they are available to make. Anyway, I appreciate your explanation behind the reason why you don't do D1 votes on newcomers and feel like it is sincere. Thank you for explaining and glad to be playing with you! I'll probably remove my vote as soon as I can find another fish to hook

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:47 pm I already stated that I thought his reason struck me as genuine, so that means I believe he's genuine.

I'm not totally sure what you mean by deceitful vs. sincere players; is that not a reflection of alignment?

you're not understanding my question.

I don't know how to talk about this. Ok, let's use speedchuck or Epignosis or JJJ or even you as examples of players I think can play the nice card just to score points. Or do very genuine things in the game unrelated to the game, just to score points. Those players are capable of that sort of thing imo.

Players like Kenway, Glorf...etc, no. They don't go that far. Kenway has never used out of game reasoning in mafia ever. He's very noble like that and knowing his personality makes it easier to form real reads on him imo.

does that make sense?

I'm trying to get a feel for what kind of player Scotty is. Is he a good guy, is he the king of deceit, does he throw all his teammates under the bus as long as he can win, is he more laid back, does he seem like the kind of guy who really will give new players a free pass to feel welcome (rhetorical, as he already explained his reasoning behind it and I believe he is sincere)

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:47 pmYou've called me out on plenty of things?

yeah, whatever I found worthy of discussion, I have discussed. Just search for your name in my post history.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:47 pm And since when is friendly different from agreeable? What part of Scotty's post was agreeable? If anything, it makes him an easy target, and you are proving my point right now. He put himself out there with an unconventional line of thinking, and then BAM you're on his case.

friendly is buddying, appearing agreeable to fly under people's radars on day 1 because no one has something to say against you is a different thing imo although closely related. I don't think what Scotty said makes him an easy target if it falls within his personality to be kind to newcomers. I have never played with Scotty, I have never seen a bad Scotty and I have never seen a good Scotty; naturally, I will question it.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:23 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:16 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:03 pm MP is shady as shit when town;

is he not shady as shit when he's scum?

Not quite so early as that

And am I finding MP shady as shit? I probably wouldn't go quite that far... but he's jumping out of his skin to make reads that aren't there, so certainly suspectable.

I tend to think people who "jump out of their skins to make reads" on day 1 are more likely to be town. how and why do you find it suspectable?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:26 pmHello all.

hi daisy. tell me how you feel about 2 other players in the game right now.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

If what?

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:21 pm hey there

Kites!

are you town?

name 1 other person you wont be voting for today. name 1 person you might vote for today.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:45 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:39 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:23 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:16 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:03 pm MP is shady as shit when town;

is he not shady as shit when he's scum?

Not quite so early as that

And am I finding MP shady as shit? I probably wouldn't go quite that far... but he's jumping out of his skin to make reads that aren't there, so certainly suspectable.

I tend to think people who "jump out of their skins to make reads" on day 1 are more likely to be town. how and why do you find it suspectable?

Do you see me saying mp is bad or good?

do you see me saying i think you think mp is bad or good?

I asked you why you found it suspectable for him to be trying to make reads. You haven't answered that part yet unless "learned through many years of playing" is an answer I didn't catch? I've been playing mafia for years too.

so many 1 posters and some no posters still. I can't prod you all, but I am looking at you with my big, magnificent eyes. We have like 36 hours to make a decision so get in here and tell us what you make of the thread so far.

which reads has he forced?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:02 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:59 am which reads has he forced?

Are you asking because you aren’t following what I’m saying or just because picking a fight is interesting?

Which read do you think I mean?

I ISO'd you and didn't find a clear answer of where or towards whom you felt MPs reads were forced...

do you enjoy asking a question in reply to a question instead of answering the question?

wow, you're doing circles around the point instead of answering a clear-cut question that revolves around your own words and who and what you find suspectable and then trying to turn this around on me. I don't know what you mean, because you've implied that MP has forced reads (in the plural) without actually telling us which reads of his felt forced. I can read your words, words are clear, but I'm more interested in the reasoning behind them which isn't clear and which you haven't offered. Are you saying he forced a town read on scotty? he forced a scum read on me? idk. and honestly, your answer after this point no longer holds the same weight it did before you went around in circles.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:13 am I feel like such a moron. I've been perched waiting for the game to start and didn't even realize it did

that's ok! Day 0 happened on a Saturday at mindnight EST and Day 1 started at Sunday 6pm so a lot of people haven't really checked in yet. feel free to dig right in and throw some reads around.

what time zone are you in btw? I know we have some Europeans and some Australians playing too.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:19 am If this is your reason for a vote

It was a prod-vote; and Scotty answered my concerns and offered insight. When I find another suspect, I'll move my vote.

[mention]wolbre04[/mention], I look forward to seeing your reads!

also, do you think sig represented you accurately in the blurb below?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:46 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:23 pm I wonder what playing Mafia with Socrates would be like

Ugh, he’d probably just tediously ask everyone to explain their every thought.

sounds like me tbh

what are some of your thoughts please.

you underlined portions of sigs post, which seem superfluous out of context, but if you read the post in its entirety you can make sense of what he's trying to say. some of us just talk like that, y'know?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:29 am Straight answers might give you answers, but it doesn’t give me any.

Don’t try and catch me in semantics. It’s not a game I’ll play. If you can answer my question (and yes, anyone who has read my iso ought to be able to), then I’ll beloeve your questions are in good faith. Right now I don’t - I think they are just to generate content. None of the questions you’ve asked me have any meaning - you’re trying to push me into defending the idea that I can believe sig has a bad read on mp while holding my own town view. I can hold both those views at once, and I’m not going to let that be used against me.

you are thinking way too hard for day 1. literally my only purpose is to see if you're talking shit or not. call me dumb if you want, but I seriously could not infer these forced MP reads you're claiming you revealed in your ISO. sorry man. it's not clear-cut to this Swede. and I won't ask you again and I don't want you to answer me. but think: if I could see it, why the heck would I be asking you and pushing for an answer? (also, please don't answer that. it was a rhetoric question for your pondering).

I'm gonna move on because I don't like it when someone just takes me for a ride, but I will come back to this eventually, I'm sure.

[mention]wolbre04[/mention], you should see the end time at the top of the poll for your timezone

Who threatens to dismantle everything we have achieved here?
Poll runs till Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

11pm my time is different than 11pm your time

that's fine! ask as many questions as you need, the host and players don't mind.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:22 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:01 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 am The one that stands out the most right now is dunya's vote for scotty - I have no history with dunya, but dunya has no history with scotty. It's possible it stands out for 'culture clash' reasons.

I dunno. I prodded Scotty for info on his personality both from Scotty and others, and backed it up with a vote. My vote and questioning his motives and sincerity has created discussion. This is a good thing. We have 48 hours; my vote's moving all over the place before I make a more informed Day 1 decision.

Would you generally trust someone who assessed their own behaviour as a 'good thing'?

What is inherently better about your first vote being based on info for pressure, as opposed to yolo that creates pressure?

I didn't assess my behavior as being a good thing; I said the discussion that has revolved around it is a good thing. There's a subtle difference you should be able to catch.

who said my second vote is inherently better? who determines what is better anyway?

Choutas wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:28 am Sloppy -> Scumtell
Random voting -> Scumtell

Anyway, I always work the evening shift so expect low to zero participation from 14:00 to 24:00
It's possible I could scrabble some posts here and there but my participation in this game will be from low to low-average.
It's a blast we get to play again together guys. Thank you Jay.

I expect every post you make to end in a random fact about ancient Greece ok? I signed up to this game to get educated, not catch scum.

s'good to see ya around, Choutas. <3

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:14 am My read on MP is that his purpose was "I haven't played in mafia forever can I make a read now, yes, please, thankyou!" You should always apply the 'golden retriever' test to MP first and foremost.

what's the golden retriever test? you love anything with the word "golden" don't you?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:03 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:06 pmThanks you for your tome

Glad to see scotty's autocorrect is on point with the thematic jokes.

I thought it was drunk Scotty.

wow mac is so yellow and bright hurts my eyes ;p

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:04 am I went to do a GTH and realised most of these people I know nothing about. So a quick run down of people I feel I have a sense of:

I'm liking:

MP
Mac
Sloonei
Scotty
Speedchuck

I have no read:

Sig
Kyle

I'm wary of:

Dunya
Nova

I'm not really liking:

Choutas
Epignosis

I want to hear more about Dom. He took the time to underline and magnify superfluous words in a sig post, but not what it meant to him, why he did it and what purpose he was trying to achieve. Since you share his feelings, Mac, what does it mean?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:08 am You got a problem with that dunya? Cos I sure don't. I have got plenty of a sense of Kyle and sig, and I have them actively at 'no read'.

well yea. what sense of them do you have? how can you have a sense of someone, plenty of it, but place them at no read. why are you fucking with my mind?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:34 am I'm not asking about your second vote, just your first vote compared to mine.

Put it this way, I'm asking you for your value propositions. I'm trying to figure out what makes you tick on day one.

why is my first vote being compared to yours? who is making that comparison? did I ever say my vote was better than yours? idc about your Sloonei vote. It's a 48 hour day 1, and votes are changeable. I'm more wary of people who park on one person with conviction and keep their asses there.

tick in what way? how I operate on Day 1? I am a firm believer that the Day 1 lynch is important and town absolutely can catch scum on it. I played a game with Kylemii on another forum that was a 3day Day 1 only and 4 townies had to catch 1 of 2 scum. We did it. I don't vote for inactives or low posters on day 1; I don't commit myself to one person on day 1 either. There's 4 scum, spreading yourself out and trying out various options makes it more likely to net one or at least makes it more likely for you to vote for someone with some reasoning instead of "ahhh too bad he was town but it's day 1 so we couldn't expect to do better". fuck that. Every lynch is valuable and my vote goes towards someone I think with some level of confidence could be bad.

people whose day 1 methods I like: JJJ, MacDougall, Sloonei, MP.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:03 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:01 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 am The one that stands out the most right now is dunya's vote for scotty - I have no history with dunya, but dunya has no history with scotty. It's possible it stands out for 'culture clash' reasons.

I dunno. I prodded Scotty for info on his personality both from Scotty and others, and backed it up with a vote. My vote and questioning his motives and sincerity has created discussion. This is a good thing. We have 48 hours; my vote's moving all over the place before I make a more informed Day 1 decision.

This post strengthens my suspicion of dunya. Votes for pressure don't have a lot of teeth when you explain them away as harmless prodders.

My explanation came after Scotty addressed my concerns, and I was happy with his response.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 am I like lots of questions being asked, I think it helps. But I also think the nature of the questions matter. I think there needs to be an intent or purpose behind each question. Something you want to learn. Do you agree with that?

I agree in general, but that won't apply to Day 1. I have found through trial and error, the more questions you ask, the more content you produce, and the more difficult it is for scum to hide. Honestly, sometimes I don't care who is arguing about what even if I see it as two townies going at each other. Content is generated, people will leave trails, some may slip even if we can't see it immediately. The priority early on in the game is to get as many people talking as possible. That's how I play mafia, and that's why I can end up with a few hundred posts in one early phase.