The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:04 pm General alert to all civilians of Greendale:

The need for a well-paced thread is obvious. So do your best on that front, please. More than that though, let's be aware from the start that urgency is paramount if we are to win this game. There are only 12 players here, and the cycles will be 24/24. This game will be completely over in a blink; we won't have a lot of time to solve it. There is no time to waste.

I know many of y'all are now in two games. Handle that as you see fit (I will not speak of the other active game again). Just please ensure this one gets a fair portion of your attention. Thanks!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:02 pm Sloonei, you may want to consider a slightly milder blue for your host color; it's a bit difficult to read on the gray skin. You're the boss though, boss.

How's this

blinding me tbh

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:06 pm Man! I'm super pumped for this game of course I'll be participating!

me and sabie are totally pumped. happy to be playing with you again!

why have i never spammed a mafia game with annie edison gifs before, i don't know.

anyway, i won't be spamming much, it's past my bed time.

sloonei, what time EST is end of day/night going to be for my info.

linki: the last one is most agreeable to my eyes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:04 pm General alert to all civilians of Greendale:

The need for a well-paced thread is obvious. So do your best on that front, please. More than that though, let's be aware from the start that urgency is paramount if we are to win this game. There are only 12 players here, and the cycles will be 24/24. This game will be completely over in a blink; we won't have a lot of time to solve it. There is no time to waste.

I know many of y'all are now in two games. Handle that as you see fit (I will not speak of the other active game again). Just please ensure this one gets a fair portion of your attention. Thanks!

calling it day 0, jay is scum. this was his obligatory post calling for a shit ton of activity because this is what civ jay is like, whereas he enjoys to let the game ride by slower when he's scum. his post was what we typically expect of a civ jjj, but it's all a mind game. he's using language that is more courteous and less urgent, which is in conflict with the message he's trying to convey there. fight me on that.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:14 pm Man my phone sucks and it's hard to post gifs from it.

my internet is sucking badly, so i won't always be able to post gifs, enjoying it while i can though...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:18 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:12 pm why have i never spammed a mafia game with annie edison gifs before, i don't know.

anyway, i won't be spamming much, it's past my bed time.

sloonei, what time EST is end of day/night going to be for my info.

linki: the last one is most agreeable to my eyes.

I was planning on 9 PM EST. I have class til 6:30 a couple days a week. 7 would be too tight a squeeze for me, and 8 would have us bumping up against Shockheaded Peter.

that is understandable but quite unfortunate as it would be 3am my time. oh well, the syndicate was never european friendly except that one time in that one game i can't remember lol.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:18 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:17 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:04 pm General alert to all civilians of Greendale:

The need for a well-paced thread is obvious. So do your best on that front, please. More than that though, let's be aware from the start that urgency is paramount if we are to win this game. There are only 12 players here, and the cycles will be 24/24. This game will be completely over in a blink; we won't have a lot of time to solve it. There is no time to waste.

I know many of y'all are now in two games. Handle that as you see fit (I will not speak of the other active game again). Just please ensure this one gets a fair portion of your attention. Thanks!

calling it day 0, jay is scum. this was his obligatory post calling for a shit ton of activity because this is what civ jay is like, whereas he enjoys to let the game ride by slower when he's scum. his post was what we typically expect of a civ jjj, but it's all a mind game. he's using language that is more courteous and less urgent, which is in conflict with the message he's trying to convey there. fight me on that.

Courtesy is necessary for a civilian leader who hopes to have civilian followers.

hmmm. nah, not buying it

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:24 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:22 pmhmmm. nah, not buying it

I'm not talking about any content that exists in a game that is still active. Just keep in mind that the "two games at once" dynamic exists uniquely in this one.

what's curious to me about this exchange is that you're defending something that would have no basis to "civ jay". where's your "idgaf if you're not buying it " ?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:29 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:24 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:22 pmhmmm. nah, not buying it

I'm not talking about any content that exists in a game that is still active. Just keep in mind that the "two games at once" dynamic exists uniquely in this one.

what's curious to me about this exchange is that you're defending something that would have no basis to "civ jay". where's your "idgaf if you're not buying it " ?

What has no basis to civilian Jay may yet have basis to civilian dunya. I am respecting your accusation enough to provide an answer. I already gave you a "meh".

in my memory, you've never respected my early-game accusations against you as a civilian before. new style?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:30 pm dunya, read on sabie please

i was leaning town, but i didn't like how she ignored all the praise she got from you until you asked her for her opinion on it. riding it out without seeming eager? she addressed me several times, and even quoted juliets and epi, but avoided you almost deliberately. it doesn't sit right with me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:37 pm I have thoughts.

so?

yay, sabie. i might do a community marathon this weekend too. i miss the gang.

i thought she already responded.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:40 pm I was about to respond but then other things came up that I wanted to respond to more sooooo I did. A lot was happening all at once and I tried to respond to all the things!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:52 pm Oh, I thought that was peripheral. k

My thoughts: many players, particularly of the older eras of The Syndicate, haven't been raised in the respond-to-everything firestorm of JJJ or dunya Mafia. I would anticipate a pointed response to suspicions, but not necessarily to "I think X is good". It depends upon the player. I don't think less of sabie for the delay.

this response is a better look for you; it doesn't alter my opinion on the shadiness of replying to everyone but you in the thread though. i'll consider it.

anyway, i'm out, night night gang!

hot lunch hour dunya take: macdougall is mafia

epi is town (also, hi jeff )

jjj is independent, probably can win with civs.

sabie is sabie i.e. town

now ask me why

also, quin is town.

jojo and colonialbob tbd.

no one asked me, but ima go ahead and tell you why i think mac is mafia.

he comes in here to demotivate jjj. he has an issue with jjj taking the leader role. he's vocalizing it to make others aware of these issues he has with jjj. he is trying to renounce jjj's place in the thread. ok...

but then nah, he doesn't wanna take jjj's place after all. he's happy being led. he's happy jjj being himself.

there was no purpose for the former or the latter. when someone comes in strong and then contradicts everything said, it is always a plot to weaken or cause conflict or shake trust in a person. macdougall here was initially trying to take civ jjj off course, and whether he continued or not, the posts are there. they have already garnered agreement from at least 2 other people. there is purpose behind every post, especially one that criticizes another player's playing style, and especially when macdougall is no newbie to jjj or his playstyle. it gets old ya know. the pocketing approach may have worked in ass-class, but it wouldn't work in any game i'm in.

i have played only in one game with sabie. i thought she was pretty genuine and was disappointed when she got mislynched. but i have watched a couple other games she's played in, and it feels to me like she's very easily misunderstood or appears less than genuine sometimes and it reminds me of how lunalee is constantly mislynched for appearing too scummy.

i wasn't and still am not hot on the fact she addressed everyone in the thread (including juliets, a non-player) except the highest poster at the time who had directly referred to her twice. but i'll try to pin it down to differing playstyle, though when someone comes and townreads me on day 0 my first reaction is: why?

to that extent, i find it curious jjj has been so agreeable to my accusations and provided reads on almost everyone in the game except me to this point, even asking others of their opinions on me, but not offering any of his own despite our conversations.

if macdougall was town, he'd be trying to make sure it was civ-jjj leading the thread and get into some tag team action with him imo. i am most unimpressed with his contributions, even for a day 0, that he spent his time complaining and then taking it back--and that is all he contributed. nahw. even for a tuesday afternoon, dats weak sauce.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:55 pm I've got the second part down.

I need to see how DUNYA reacts to DUNYA IS EVIL.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:49 am

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:34 amto that extent, i find it curious jjj has been so agreeable to my accusations and provided reads on almost everyone in the game except me to this point, even asking others of their opinions on me, but not offering any of his own despite our conversations.

In the post-Fire Emblem era, the dunya read gets treated with greater care. I am not particularly bothered by you to this point at least.

your read is not written in stone, y'know.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:51 am dunya, why am I independent?

well, are you?

there's something off with your tone. it's not wholly civ and it's not wholly scum. you slide into the independent category pretty well for now.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:16 am 11:21

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:21 am now ask me why

11:28

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am no one asked me

Wow calm down.

obv i wasn't actually waiting for someone to ask me.

p.s. i hate it when someone tells me to calm down.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 am

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:27 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 amLiterally nobody cares about any of this Day 0. Literally nobody.

That's why civilians lose.

I dunno, filling the thread with this sort of stuff on day 0 might help you but it just makes the thread a more challenging read for me. Can't speak for the world though.

totes agree with you here. i prefer my day 0s less text wall'y and technical. the game/player breakdowns are fine, but when i get overwhelmed reading on day 0s and sometimes day 1s i tend to lose interest in the game. Not always of course.

"totally agree with guy who people are already calling bad because his posts have just been about complaining JJJ is doing work, but I need to add on how I don't like day 0 activity. Ok I've done my work see you tomorrow"

agree, i hated the "not always of course". it's like, i'll complain and talk shit then add that in the end to make everything i complained about seem like it's not really an issue to me. i didn't like it in the same way i didn't like mac's criticisms of jay, but i didn't hate it as much as i hated mac's.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:24 am

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:23 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:16 am 11:21

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:21 am now ask me why

11:28

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am no one asked me

Wow calm down.

obv i wasn't actually waiting for someone to ask me.

p.s. i hate it when someone tells me to calm down.

Sorry I needed an excuse to make fun of that sequence.

I guess "slow down" is more proper, since you could be calm and yet also be posting like a maniac.

i'm not posting like a maniac. jesus christ guys. when i have an open window in my day, i'm gonna post as much as i can. i don't have time like i used to. get used to it. deal with it. quit complaining about how people play mafia please and thank you.

i'm out. enjoy your space.

cbob, what do you think of sabie?

please talk to me about Quin, JJJ.

agreeable. and can i ask why you townread epi?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:21 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:20 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:07 pm [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:18 am [VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

Gave her a whole three hours to respond, did you?

I don't feel like waiting for the sun to reach Europe. She'll respond anyway.

The vote itself didn't surprise me, but this did. Since when do you vote for someone on day 1 for their reaction alone? That isn't like you at all. And not what I assumed your vote was about.

I wouldn't ordinarily ask this of your first vote, but since it was there for only 2 hours (3-5am my time) I would like to know what inspired it and what inspired you to move so quickly?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:19 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:37 am if macdougall was town, he'd be trying to make sure it was civ-jjj leading the thread and get into some tag team action with him imo. i am most unimpressed with his contributions, even for a day 0, that he spent his time complaining and then taking it back--and that is all he contributed. nahw. even for a tuesday afternoon, dats weak sauce.

I have done this maybe a grand total of ONCE in all my time playing Mafia. Jay can attest.

Are you saying you never try to gleam of Jay is town?

I dont like how long it's taking Jay to "explain" what he "means" to people. That's at least twice or three times I've seen it and we've just begun day 1. Makes the content look more staged and less spontaneous, heat of the moment feelings.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:25 am

DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:15 am

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:56 am

DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:45 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:41 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:38 am Quin is good, unlike the announcements.

I'd rather hear your take on two-bit DF.

I agree with his general sentiment that an isolated "call out" of my mechanics post is a suspicious thing. I direct that at DDL primarily.

DF directed it at nobody and didn't answer me when I asked him to gimme names, so that's bad. I feel no compulsion to call him a civilian.

Sorry for being at work?

I was referring to Epi and Mac, but more so Epi since Mac didn't actually imply that the charting meant that JJJ was bad. These posts from Epi show him suggesting that JJJ's efforts were a Mafia smokescreen:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:27 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 amLiterally nobody cares about any of this Day 0. Literally nobody.

That's why civilians lose.

Civilians don't lose because nobody paid attention to chart. You are doing work to do work.

You know what I do when I'm bad? I count on my fingers how many civilians I need to knock off to win. That's a mafia chart.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:32 am Jay is more concerned with the setup than with who is bad. I have solved this thing for you.

If Epi can offer evidence that JJJ primarily does this sort of analysis as a baddie but not as a civ I'll reconsider, but as it is I don't buy his reasoning here.

I thought that Epi was doing it as a way to gauge 3J's alignment. No idea about Mac though.

In Mac's case it did come across as trying to discourage JJJ's analysis by making his confusion with JJJ's methods highly visible, but his motive for doing so is harder for me to get a read on than Epi's posts. However I was just going over Mac's posts and this is suspect to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:18 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am no one asked me, but ima go ahead and tell you why i think mac is mafia.

he comes in here to demotivate jjj. he has an issue with jjj taking the leader role. he's vocalizing it to make others aware of these issues he has with jjj. he is trying to renounce jjj's place in the thread. ok...

but then nah, he doesn't wanna take jjj's place after all. he's happy being led. he's happy jjj being himself.

there was no purpose for the former or the latter. when someone comes in strong and then contradicts everything said, it is always a plot to weaken or cause conflict or shake trust in a person. macdougall here was initially trying to take civ jjj off course, and whether he continued or not, the posts are there. they have already garnered agreement from at least 2 other people. there is purpose behind every post, especially one that criticizes another player's playing style, and especially when macdougall is no newbie to jjj or his playstyle. it gets old ya know. the pocketing approach may have worked in ass-class, but it wouldn't work in any game i'm in.

This is all very basic analysis from someone with an intuition based game. You're bad because you picked the most logical case to put together that you could see, when ordinarily you are capable of deeper analysis than this.

He doesn't deny or even defend himself here, and actually says that Dunya has a logical case. But his reason for suspecting her is that she normally would put together a more complex case? To me this comes across as Mac trying to deflect rather than engage with Dunya. I'll likely be voting Mac or Epi today.

It's a good observation made my someone who doesn't even know my playstyle. My entire mafia career has been haunted with my over-hyped "intuition" tbh and then not being able to translate that into a case. You contradict yourself when you said you were expecting more intuition and then expecting deeper analysis...

I still feel good about Quin. I'm gleaming genu-quin in his spitfire.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:37 am

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:45 pm agreeable. and can i ask why you townread epi?

He's one of few that seems to be working the thread in such a way that it can promote civilian productivity beyond just present reads.

Can you give me just a couple of examples of instances where he promoted civilian productivity beyond present reads?

[VOTE: ddl] aubergine

Right now I'd feel good about a DDL or colonialbob lynch.

I don't think DDL and Mac are w/w. I am satisfied with Mac for now. I am not satisfied with DDL.

There's something very unnatural in the flow of colonialbob's posts. It doesn't really spark joy.

I'm back to work. See you guys soon.

well, I'm not on any medication and I'm not mafia. find a third hypothesis.

I'm moving my vote to MacDougall, because of his handling of Jay and responses to any criticism thrown towards him so far. I don't like the deflective attitude.

I think the likelihood DDL and cbob are w/w are low, based on DDL's "random bad scum read" post, in which he called colonialbob bad. it would be ballsy if they were w/w, not impossible, I just find it less likely to be the case.

i'm not feeling the DFaraday suspicions. i've never played with them before, and would rather prefer to see what they have to offer as they get into the flow of the game personally.

i'd love to hear more from the people who haven't talked much yet (coliniscool, novaselinenever, reywaS, and DF to some extent as well as DDL). glad we have a 48hr start on day 1.

i lied, i'm moving my vote to JJJ until he can convince me he's a civilian because i'm not feeling any oomph from him which was present in his last performance, and he's acted in several ways that don't make sense to me. he may be asking the right questions, but i don't feel like there's been direct purpose or aim. for a game with so much roleplay, I expected another Jerry Seinfeld but instead got a deflated dean who seems lost in a relatively timid thread.

i still got my eyeballs on you, maccy-mac-man.

current rainbow. i feel good about epignosis most, followed by sabie and quin at equal levels i'd say. i haven't seen enough content from dfaraday but nothing has pinged me.

i need more content from nova, coliniscool hasn't posted yet and reywaS did that one post that pinged me where he complained about someone's play style but then took it back at the end...which i think is demotivating and purposeless. need to see more "game-related" content from him.

the last 4 are people i have reasons to feel iffy about. let's see what happens this day phase.

dunya
Epignosis
sabie12
Quin
DFaraday
novaselinenever
ColinIsCool
reywaS
colonialbob
Macdougall
Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay

my cbob read is gut. i just feel like something is missing from his usual curious and purposeful tone.

macdougall and jjj i've already touched on in the thread. i don't even like the nova vote jjj has right now.

DDL i also didn't see real purpose in his posting. now that i've seen his iso again, i have to apologize for confusing cbob with reywas. so ddl and cbob can still be w/w; ddl threw his random bad read on reywas so i wouldn't call ddl and reywas w/w, especially when he followed it up by randomly picking up one of reywas' few posts and trying to elaborate on his read. seemed really made up. and i dunno, i felt like he came in to try and throw holes at sabie but completely dropped it. he made posts, and they weren't based on much with no follow up or continuation and i don't like that stuff where i can't find reason behind why something was done or said.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:57 am Orange = this isn't actually true, which should be evident from what followed in the thread. I got a reaction from someone other than you and made note of that.

i think it is true. no one reacted to your dunya vote. Epignosis' reaction was after you removed your vote off me and onto novaselinenever. you had no idea anyone was going to react to your dunya vote past the event. saying you expected it and it happened is reaching imo. and it isn't about the vote itself, it's about your defence when questioned about it by Epignosis that got to me. it made it seem like you were fishing for a reaction from me (and were still expecting it later) at 3am-5am, but then decided i wasn't worth the wait, parked yourself on nova instead who is for the most part mia, and called it a night with your vote moves. it was weird to me, it still is. i don't really get it. i don't feel like you would have voted for me in particular for fleeting reasons and it feels hollow is what i mean.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:57 am Green = the vote didn't have some grand underlying purpose. I felt like doing it, so I did it. Then later, I felt like voting for nova. So I did it. Why did I feel like voting for you in general terms? There are some reads you've made that I don't entirely buy -- your suspicion of people for dragging me down earlier seems as much a "buddy Jay" as a "suspect X". You know well from your own experience that we can draw criticism and antagonism for the mere act of trying to win. We've jointly voiced our frustration with that more than once (primarily in the face of people complaining about how much we've posted). Moreover, your suspicion of me in this early phase recalls in some ways your conduct to start Fire Emblem. I looked back at your posts in that game, saw more similarities than I thought I'd see, and said "okay gonna stick a vote on dunya, feck it".

i don't understand, did your vote have underlying purpose or didn't it?

i dislike anyone criticizing someone's playstyle. i've made that clear in almost every game i've ever been in. it pisses me off endlessly when people complain about how someone chooses to play a game, especially in regards to post-count because it's demotivational on a personal level. they think it's an offhand remark; i think it makes me feel awkward and unable to be myself which of course inadvertently affects my playstyle. i wasn't buddying you; i was defending your playstyle (and mine) and anyone who criticizes other people on that front. i'm just tired of this happening and want it to stop.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:57 am Your present suspicion of me also comes with expectations that I think you'd view as unfair if anyone directed the same accusations at you. Maintaining the highest standard in every game is impossible.

no. even if i remove the "jay isn't displaying the same oomph he did in the other game" (which i apologize for, you're right that's a bullshit reason and high expectations are a drag on one's motivation in the first place), you've done some things that seem unlike you. your tone with the thread is more reserved and laid back, your tone and interactions with me are extremely mellow and toned down. whenever we've been civ-on-civ in the past and i've flung shit your way, you've started a storm. of course i'm going to notice these differences. just as you pay me more regard after my fire emblem game, i pay you just as much regard in your scum game. some of your queries feel open ended, like you're asking for the sake of filling some "question quota" than actual intel. if i feel something is off, i'll note it. i won't ignore anything in front of my nose just cos i want you to be civ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:25 am Quite frankly I figured someone would say something like this when I made that post. It's so token as to be caricature.

you know what, i like this part. let me mull on it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:25 am

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:13 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:10 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:07 amShe's completely different from what I'm used to, which has always been civ. So GTH she's bad.

But GTH sucks and fails to consider she is obviously roleplaying, so more like neutral from now.

What is completely different about her?

Normally I'm expecting a single, 8 line paragraph on how she is unsure about a bunch of different topics.

This is so specific that I struggle to believe it.

i can see why it feels fabricated, but is it an accurate representation of sabie outside roleplay? i checked the ongoing game and can see a lot of variety in her posts, more beefy content as the game progressed. we won't talk about that now since we don't know her alignment and the game is ongoing.

then i checked a world asunder and honestly, i did see more beefy content as a whole from her there. the observation isn't completely unwarranted for someone who's played with her in a few games recently. but it was day 0. she was role playing a character she loves in a show she expressed genuine excitement about even in the sign up thread. and she did have a funeral and personal reasons yesterday. the question is would she use roleplay to mask discomfort at being given a scum role or not?

as much as i'd like to give ddl shit for that, i don't think it was a bad observation. i just dislike how he made it, and tried to get it to stick, then pulled out of it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:46 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:15 am It's a good observation made my someone who doesn't even know my playstyle. My entire mafia career has been haunted with my over-hyped "intuition" tbh and then not being able to translate that into a case. You contradict yourself when you said you were expecting more intuition and then expecting deeper analysis...

I'm not gonna judge the quality of your intuition (which, for the record, is amazing), but whether you are trying to use it or not. And you're not.

Normally you come here and start calling everyone's alignments for reasons we can barely understand. You just yell "Of course, X is obviously civ/bad, I can feel it!"

Your cases in this game read like something *I* would write. Because I'm not an intuition based player, I'm an overly rational guy who sucks at reading people and works better when there is information or strategy to analyse. You are writing the kind of pseudo-rational babble I usually make to attempt to do work on Day 1, and is barely right more often than not.

nope, i don't do that. i'd love evidence of where you've seen me do that. i think i know what i do and don't do. that's far out, even for me.

please review my previous civ games. take a look at mountains mafia, my first heavy game on here as civ.