The Syndicate

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Skimmed 2 pages in which JJJ analyzes stuff like "hey guys" and "hi and goodnight" and assigning each entry a different alignment sticker. I'm laughing.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:04 am Hey nineteen

Nova good
Speed bad

Why is speed bad?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:28 am Some posts not by Jay

I was talking about Jay tho, because I found that particular conclusion ridiculous and fake.

I see you there buddy. I like what you're doing. I especially liked your defence of leetic after Jay called him bad. It doesn't sway me on reading leetic or Jay any differently, but earns you some points in my gold star book.

I wish I cared as much as nova about this game.

I'm just here to be an extra warm body, ya feel me?

Oh okay I thought you were upset that I was talking about Jay and not you. I didn't want you to feel jealous. I got all the love for u.

A 48 hr day 0? Bye. Happy Easter folks.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:01 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:26 am In checking!

Fun having!

Skimmed 2 pages in which JJJ analyzes stuff like "hey guys" and "hi and goodnight" and assigning each entry a different alignment sticker. I'm laughing.
Implied discredit, and implied ignorance that entry posts can be read for tone even if generally featuring similar appearances, bad

I think I know all about reading tone. I literally do not see different tones in these:

Matahari wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:49 pm Hi. And goodnight.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:52 pmHey guys

You called Matrahari good and speedchuck bad. I can even lump leetic in here, but he was wordy and gave excuses so I won't for the sake of consistency. What do you have to base Matahari's intro off of to call it a good look? Iirc you said she seems like she doesn't care? How does she not care? How does speedchuck look like he >does< care? I do not agree that you can read into tone in these two posts beyond "speed is always bad so let's start him off as bad" and I want to give Matahari civ credit because I want to. I wasn't convinced, even for Day 0 Jay-level-shit flinging and I'm gonna say what I see.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:38 am Dragon D. Luffy I hate to belabor the point but I'm lost as to why you find Jay and nova's back and forth as confusing. To me it was basically "ur bad" "no ur bad" "see, ur bad" "see, ur bad" etc. What did I miss that was confusing?

hmmm.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:41 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:38 am Dragon D. Luffy I hate to belabor the point but I'm lost as to why you find Jay and nova's back and forth as confusing. To me it was basically "ur bad" "no ur bad" "see, ur bad" "see, ur bad" etc. What did I miss that was confusing?
That's one way to put it lol.

What is your current read of Jay?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:30 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:08 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:01 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:55 am Why cut me slack there, DDL?
Why not? Gotta consider all the possible explanations for things.
Did it help you to derive a stance on my alignment?
Not really.
That’s because you exonerated me before I had to answer to the accusation. That’s never going to get anywhere.
Implying I wanted to make an accusation out of it.

The bolded part sounds a bit like an accusation. The italicized sounds like a soft defence to the accusation.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:52 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:51 am What do you think this setup looks like?
Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows
I've seen you do more detailed analysis with similar levels of scarce info.

Though we did give you shit last time you did it so I get if you don't wanna do it again.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:46 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:38 am Dragon D. Luffy I hate to belabor the point but I'm lost as to why you find Jay and nova's back and forth as confusing. To me it was basically "ur bad" "no ur bad" "see, ur bad" "see, ur bad" etc. What did I miss that was confusing?
hmmm.
What does "hmmm" mean here?

I don't really think Jay thinks nova is bad.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:51 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:44 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:01 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:26 am In checking!

Fun having!

Skimmed 2 pages in which JJJ analyzes stuff like "hey guys" and "hi and goodnight" and assigning each entry a different alignment sticker. I'm laughing.
Implied discredit, and implied ignorance that entry posts can be read for tone even if generally featuring similar appearances, bad
I think I know all about reading tone. I literally do not see different tones in these:

Matahari wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:49 pm Hi. And goodnight.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:52 pmHey guys
You called Matrahari good and speedchuck bad. I can even lump leetic in here, but he was wordy and gave excuses so I won't for the sake of consistency. What do you have to base Matahari's intro off of to call it a good look? Iirc you said she seems like she doesn't care? How does she not care? How does speedchuck look like he >does< care? I do not agree that you can read into tone in these two posts beyond "speed is always bad so let's start him off as bad" and I want to give Matahari civ credit because I want to. I wasn't convinced, even for Day 0 Jay-level-shit flinging and I'm gonna say what I see.

I fucking love that gif

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:55 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:53 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:46 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:38 am Dragon D. Luffy I hate to belabor the point but I'm lost as to why you find Jay and nova's back and forth as confusing. To me it was basically "ur bad" "no ur bad" "see, ur bad" "see, ur bad" etc. What did I miss that was confusing?
hmmm.
What does "hmmm" mean here?
I don't really think Jay thinks nova is bad.
How does that link with Juliets summary of what happened though? Does the summary post make you feel some kind of way about Juliets?

Not really. I was just mulling over her summary of events and considering if I agreed it was a genuine nova vs. Jay showdown. I don't feel like it was.

Linki: thanks juliets.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:58 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:57 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:53 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:46 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:38 am Dragon D. Luffy I hate to belabor the point but I'm lost as to why you find Jay and nova's back and forth as confusing. To me it was basically "ur bad" "no ur bad" "see, ur bad" "see, ur bad" etc. What did I miss that was confusing?
hmmm.
What does "hmmm" mean here?
I don't really think Jay thinks nova is bad.
Oh! I didn't mean to imply that either one of them really believed what they said at the time they were saying those things. My read is it was poo flinging to gauge reactions.
I believe what I was saying, and still do

Because he said you were bad from the emoji or because he answered a question with another question?

[mention]juliets[/mention]
What do you think of anyone else who has posted and isn't nova or JJJ (whether good or bad)?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:04 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:02 am
Porque no los dos?
Say what?

"Why not both?"

Could be both, but the whole "Jay is bad" after he called you bad for the emoji thing didn't feel like genuine suspicion. I was wondering what solidified it. I can't tell from the ISO.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:41 pm nova’s entry post was empty, timid shite
Do you believe that?
Wrong answer, “does Jay really suspect me gooooooooooo”

I don't understand this post. What does "goooooooooooo" mean?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:08 am How is that not genuine suspicion?

You're accusing of the same thing, yet my initial suspicions didn't feel genuine?

Your very first post calling Jay bad (from the sequence below) did not feel like a solid genuine read, but more playful "game solved, jay is bad"

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:16 pm juliets good
nova bad

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:21 pm Well, that was easy. JJJ is bad.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:10 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:53 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:46 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:38 am Dragon D. Luffy I hate to belabor the point but I'm lost as to why you find Jay and nova's back and forth as confusing. To me it was basically "ur bad" "no ur bad" "see, ur bad" "see, ur bad" etc. What did I miss that was confusing?
hmmm.
What does "hmmm" mean here?
I don't really think Jay thinks nova is bad.
I don't think anybody thinks that either.

Hold my beer

I think nova is civ too. I'll follow him into the deep end of the tunnel this day phase.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:27 am dunya griping about my reads being fake is the worst thing in this thread. She knows me better than that.

Please town read me so I can be n1 lynched 4 games in a row. Please. Please. Begging you please.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:07 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:08 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:41 pm nova’s entry post was empty, timid shite
Do you believe that?
Wrong answer, “does Jay really suspect me gooooooooooo”
I don't understand this post. What does "goooooooooooo" mean?
It's an utterance. Allow me to clarify.

Click

DDL town
Juliets town
Nova town

Don't ask me why or @ me

N1 lynched. Lol. A typo that will live in my heart forever.

The reverse mafia game where town lynches at night and mafia have 48hours hours to kill.

I dont give a shit if Jay gives everyone a skittle on day 0. I didn't complain about the poo flinging. I gave a shit about the distinction between speed and Matahari where it felt like an inconsistent way of measuring posts based on the same criteria. Maybe only natives will understand that distinction because the tone read the same to me. Whatever, I'll move on.

I reached my quote for day 1 of day 0 for game relevant posts. I will say though that I do hate it when people type in caps within words like that.

Quota*

What does spank cover mean [mention]juliets[/mention] ?

Autocorrect. Slank cover.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:26 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:17 am I dont give a shit if Jay gives everyone a skittle on day 0. I didn't complain about the poo flinging. I gave a shit about the distinction between speed and Matahari where it felt like an inconsistent way of measuring posts based on the same criteria. Maybe only natives will understand that distinction because the tone read the same to me. Whatever, I'll move on.
What about his development?

He said a thing about punctuation. Okay man, whatever. This ain't English class.

I can't really bitch about it. I focus a lot on words used, if not punctuation. Like using "mislynch" instead of lynch or when someone adds a word that others think is perfectly ok but it triggers something as unnecessary in my brain. We all talk differently and that's cool.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:28 am dunya meant slank cover -- a player providing preliminary excuses for projected non-involvement

Thanks! This is turning into an English class.

So if I say hey guys I'm busy these days, don't expect effort (like I have been playing last 2 games), is that slank cover? Or like how you said you have a thesis proposal to get ready for? Isn't thank slank cover? Or like, if Eloh has a week of 100 cake orders, is that slank cover? Asking for a friend, cos I need to slank cover my ass.

Consider my ass spanked...no, slanked.

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:02 pm Kites - OMG you're bck! YAY! can't wait to play with you again!
yeah dunya tricked me into this

i feel like i was tricked into playing this game

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:06 pm Speed bad (not sure if I still think that).

did his drugged state make him seem good? cos i gotta admit, i liked drugged up speed. jokes aside, what has made you decide you're not sure if you still think that?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:02 am I'm aiming to have Day 1 start around 5pm EST tomorrow. Hope that's cool.

does that mean days end at 5pm EST? cos if they do, ily forever and ever more.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:12 am DDL town
Juliets town
Nova town
dunya town

because you know I always have to town read you on day 0. It's just a thing now.

i have to scum read you then change my mind and defend you so passionately everyone thinks i have tmi and they come for my head. it's a thing now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:35 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:28 pm I am here! May not be the most active for the next couple days, but I'll see what I can do.

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:09 pm Oh my. I love this day 0 herd culling. So different from the ancient days of mafia when everyone struggled for something to say on day 0 and the few aggressive people wound up getting lynched on days that followed. Now everyone can be aggressive and the mafia can blend in.

But this a holiday so I’ll be back later tonight to say things that can be overanalyzed. Happy GoT day everyone!

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:57 pm I’m here guys, but I have a part do tomorrow night, so my first couple days might be a bit sparse. I’m going to try though!
Evil lurks in this pile.

eh (lackluster).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:36 pm My top suspect as of right this moment

i liked the attitude she gave you when she was online last night. she could have avoided you. i didn't like her lack of focus on content, but i'm not one to talk about that. plus 48hr day 0s inspire less effort, couple that with easter weekend and people have families... eh. in fact, i do think scum nutella would have tried to avoid a jay-confrontation on day 0.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:06 pm I have taken stances. Nova town. Speed bad (not sure if I still think that). Add to that you are town, juliets, luna, and mac are on notice. Call that salad, see if I care. I don't even know who all is playing bc the thread has been so lacklustre.

i checked your iso and didn't see any stances taken before this post. i don't know why you think speed was ever bad. why is nova town. why is jay town. why are luna and mac on notice specifically? i can't even recall a single thing mac has said beyond checking in? the only post you made where i could see an opinion on any player was your quote of nova re: juliets (the infamous "ohhhh sppppiCCCYYY") which implies you saw juliets in a possibly negative light, but it is speed you thought/think is bad.

i liked the fire you spat at jay, but i don't like this nutella post.

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:37 pm so far I don’t think much about things. dunya made a big deal (http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 88#p529288) out of J’s reads that he seemingly made on a whim, frustrated at the lack of content,

what is your opinion on dunya?

oh look 9 notifications...mostly jack with his "catchup" posts lol. this is gonna be fun.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:26 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:30 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:36 pm My top suspect as of right this moment
i liked the attitude she gave you when she was online last night. she could have avoided you. i didn't like her lack of focus on content, but i'm not one to talk about that. plus 48hr day 0s inspire less effort, couple that with easter weekend and people have families... eh. in fact, i do think scum nutella would have tried to avoid a jay-confrontation on day 0.
That’s like saying you think train tracks would have tried to avoid a train. It’s not happening. I don’t get this read.

are you paying attention to the last part of my post? i'm not saying she's gonna ignore it forever, but "avoid a jay-confrontation on day 0." like speedchuck said, suspicion does fade away when people are quiet and others are more vocal. if not entirely, it's still enough to not be the center of attention.

anyway, my opinion on nutella changed. i see she's quoted me, i'll get to it and see how i feel about her reply.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:25 am eh (lackluster).
You're nicer than I am.

what do you mean?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:29 am If Jay doesn’t come back to this with a Dunya scumread or something about the reads being for a reaction, I will eat my hat.

i wish people paid attention to things i'm saying. i never said those gut reads weren't for a reaction, i think if anyone knows the shit flinging game it's me. but i can still try to find inconsistencies in jay's play to distinguish someone faking it to authentic jay. his style isn't hard to replicate if he puts enough effort. ya'll can give him the shiniest green skittle cos he posts like a mad man but i'm happy being me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:25 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:25 am eh (lackluster).
You're nicer than I am.
what do you mean?
You're more likely than I am to forgive slank cover (and perhaps more likely by extension to view accusations of slank cover as being lame).

that's true. do you think that's a weakness in my play? this isn't really game related, but i'm curious if you don't mind answering.

i see mac's name thrown around a lot and i don't remember him posting anything except hey whatsup guys? what did i miss?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:46 am Also in a vacuum, I see the second post as not w/w indicative. Scum Jay doesn’t need an excuse to not do things so his teammate doesn’t need to give him that excuse.

o.O

i...i don't know how you're reaching these conclusions exactly. you've never seen a teammate defend a teammate before? have you even mafia'd?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:50 am I called nova town and speed bad in my first post to throw out my impressions from the posts up to that point. So those were the previous stances, before the juliets/Mac thing came up which I found an intriguing possibility (the implication that they're teammates. So I'm keeping a close eye on both of them. As
for Luna, well she only has a couple posts and they didn't feel the most natural (as Jay pointed out she kinda overjustified her d0 vote).

The comparison you draw between my speed and juliets mentions is unfair. Speed was an early gut suspect. Like, early early. I'm giving him a chance to say what he can (in his state lol). Juliets I am keeping an eye on because of a strange thing nova pointed out that may tie her to Mac, and I don't see anything inspiring from Mac so that is on the table imo.

yikes dunya, pay attention. i skipped the second part of all your posts cos i thought they were all song lyrics so i missed that first post where you named nova and speed. i'm skimming this game don't judge me.

i'm interested to seeing your response to juliets' question though.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:39 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:46 am Also in a vacuum, I see the second post as not w/w indicative. Scum Jay doesn’t need an excuse to not do things so his teammate doesn’t need to give him that excuse.
o.O

i...i don't know how you're reaching these conclusions exactly. you've never seen a teammate defend a teammate before? have you even mafia'd?
Jay’s a big boy and it was barely an accusation.

It read like DDL was scared of Jay or DDL was understanding of Jay, not that DDL needed to lay off cause he was barely on and it’s Jay.

i have not gotten the impression ddl is scared at all this game. i suggest you reread him.

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