The Syndicate

Trustworthy Liberal is a wolf.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:36 am Good morning. My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor...

Who probably gave themselves food poisoning on accident last night licking a lizard? Idk feel pretty poop.

Is it food poisoning if you didn't eat the lizard?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:48 pm Alison was progressing confidently. She knew, with her bold mason claim shining uncontested, that she was going to have to act quickly and decisively in order to get the town on the right track. She had the confidence of the people, and was already detecting the subtle flavour of wolves feeling intimidated, a tang in the air that only the rising fear of cowards could produce.

tutuu was yet to reappear since the early mason bombshell had gently ripped through the thread. One could only assume that tutuu would confirm the clear and calculated claim before long.

Then there was Wilgy. Standardized, stale entrance. Off-topic talk, with a dash of humour and a touch of self-deprecation - a search for pity, perhaps? Long Con furrowed his brow, unimpressed as he marked Wilgy downward. Not a great first impression.

This dude's scum.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:52 pm Wilgy always enters games like this though. It's NAI for him.

Do you guys use a lot of meta reads on this site?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:15 pm A negative read! Long Con sank slowly into his chair, realizing his time of being universally town read was officially over.

"Don't even acknowledge it," he thought. "That's their problem, not yours!" He took a deep breath and continued reading.

Too bad that you acknowledged it by virtue of this 3rd person post. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:23 pm I like that you like first post reads, falcon. What do you think about nutella?

Struck me as an odd, not sure how to engage the game kinda post. Scum lean for sure.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:51 pm Early reading tutuu as town here as well as Alison so far.

Everyone else I don't know yet.

Didn't you just say you're town reading LongCon?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:01 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:51 pm Early reading tutuu as town here as well as Alison so far.

Everyone else I don't know yet.
Didn't you just say you're town reading LongCon?
I also said earlier that atm I'm handling two games at once. So if you could, please forgive me for forgetting to type Long Con.

And I said I was town-leaning him iirc, not town-reading (which is like a step up imo).

You get a small pardon, tho I reserve the right to rescind your pardon at any time.

Are you also using the excuse of playing 2 games in the other game to avoid having too much responsibility for your reads?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:05 pm Are you also using the excuse of playing 2 games in the other game to avoid having too much responsibility for your reads?
Do I really need to say that not everyone in the game has posted yet?

Or is that not obvious enough so I need to say it?

Besides, there are only 90ish posts for the game.

Are you really going to hold me to a high expectation on having more reads than I currently do and then (possibly) scum-lean/read me for it by not meeting that expectation?

Seems like ya said it, while bringing up that you're not gonna say it.

What does post count have to do with anything? If you're scum, you're scum regardless of post count.

I will hold you to the high expectation of not answering your own rhetorical questions.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:30 pm reading ppl by their first posts is one of the best tactics there is

transcending it even further is forming reads before their first post

its not random guessing or messing around, its after the way other ppl posted, i didnt rly think about it too hard, right, but like, my brain is so big that is subconsciosuly started theorizing about mafia team combinations, and whether or not im right, or wrong, or stuff like that. there is so much data itt already - how many ppl have posted and cleared themselves already vs the 2 people who havent (nutella and wilgy) and ton of other info that we perceive but we just ignore

and funny gurl is simply mafia in every combination of events

i care not for being mocked or not taken seriously in my quest to transcend into my strongest form as a mafia player and be able to catch people as mafia before they post (but after other people have posted). i care only for reaching enlightenment, and if mockery is the path towards it, so be it
And by doing that i can say every game i ever play would have me be the first lynched everygame and is incrediable demotivating

Quit being demotivated by hypotheticals, it's a waste of energy

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:53 am everyone who congratulates me on completing all trophies in Sekiro today is town

Nah

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:18 am alright so martin is good, falcon is too trigger happy and i don't know what to make of it. leaning sus atm though

my reads

Who have I pulled the trigger on that made you the most sus? Pew pew pew

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:05 am i dream of becoming a stand up comedian

I dream of jeannie, but someone already beat me to it in the '60s.

Top 3 stand up comics of all time?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:47 am There’s like four of us already outed

Scum probably won’t kill me cause they think I’m bluffing but little do they know I’m incapable of rolling mason without immediately claiming it

Decent wolf cover to explain away not being targeted by an MK

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:55 am i think i like falcon so far but i have a ~meh handle on those canuckers gangs styles

We are all special & unique individuals...just as shovelfuls of dirt from the prairies, the mountains, the graveyards & the desert are no two alike, so are we.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:52 pm Werid for me to be near on the first page lets go i think this will be a good game hope i can get my reads on point lets go.

Spoiler: show

Still the most sus post of the game IMO

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:57 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:56 am TL you seem to suspect everyone. Is there anyone you're confident is town other than the claimed PRs?
falcon*, not TL.

Me.

I've got some town leans, but I'm not confident in them ATM. Too early for me to start giving out town cred.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:25 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:34 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:05 am i dream of becoming a stand up comedian
I dream of jeannie, but someone already beat me to it in the '60s.

Top 3 stand up comics of all time?
i dunno i dont dream of becoming a stand up comedian i was making an inside joke sorry!

Sunnova beech, I fell for that one. Now I have egg on my face, which is ok, cuz' it matches the egg I spilt on my paaaaaaaaaants

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:50 pm wtf ur a weird person

I've been called worse by better.

Anyways, who's in your scum pile?

[VOTE: Trustworthy Lib] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:08 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:05 pm It's a short day phase though so maybe it's not that concerning.

I could go for Marmot, TL or Wilgy exes. This POE is pretty LHF-ish, but with a pretty dead D1 and a bunch of players I like as town, I think an LHF-ish exe is fine. We'll start cutting through the dead wood and keep raising the bar for town. Marmot voting tutuu is a hard scumside though so I'm focusing there atm.
You should pick me first, I'm an ideal Day 1 vote.

Too cheeky by half.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:02 pm wait why are people agreeing with marmot

Why are you Beetlejuicing?

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:07 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

OMGUS are great

TL giving GTH reads to start, eh? Cool. Also note that her scum leans consists solely of 2 players who've shaded her. No scum reads on anyone who hasn't sussed ya TL? Not even 1?

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:00 pm TL giving GTH reads to start, eh? Cool. Also note that her scum leans consists solely of 2 players who've shaded her. No scum reads on anyone who hasn't sussed ya TL? Not even 1?
when did I shade TL

I'm going off what she said about you, "Don't like their comment of i claimed and now i get to coast never true and i feel is less likely to come from a town in any world"

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:37 pm tutuu, you're on my do not vote list for the day, but now you're scaring me.

my last few posts were pretty towny

ur paranoia is just cuz u dont got big balls

i never reevaluate reads cuz i got the biggest balls. i also win every game i swear

Do TP actually say this about themselves?

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:14 pm I'm still curious... To anyone who wants to answer. What's the case on TL again?
People disliked my first post was the main case cause i said a word twice
getting busyier now so will try to keep an eye around for questions

That's not why I scum read your intro. It read like a wolf trying to act casual entering the thread. 1st post by wolves are often awkward, with odd jokes and a je na sais quoi element, as it's hard to enter a discussion with more info than everyone else and act the same. It becomes easier as the conversations develop of course, and your posting since your entrance certainly fits the bill.

Yeah, I'm still scum reading you. Do you have a reason for sussing me, outside of OMGUS? If OMGUS is all you have, that's cool, no hard feelings.

I also find your scum list too short and your null list too large.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:10 pm sorry i've been highly distracted by like four different things but happy with my vote on ts

Hmmm, this post doesn't sit well with me.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:31 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:14 pm I'm still curious... To anyone who wants to answer. What's the case on TL again?
People disliked my first post was the main case cause i said a word twice
getting busyier now so will try to keep an eye around for questions
That's not why I scum read your intro. It read like a wolf trying to act casual entering the thread. 1st post by wolves are often awkward, with odd jokes and a je na sais quoi element, as it's hard to enter a discussion with more info than everyone else and act the same. It becomes easier as the conversations develop of course, and your posting since your entrance certainly fits the bill.

Yeah, I'm still scum reading you. Do you have a reason for sussing me, outside of OMGUS? If OMGUS is all you have, that's cool, no hard feelings.

I also find your scum list too short and your null list too large.
2 Scum reads D1 is 2 more then i usally have

Well shit, then you're off to a hawt start! Nicely done superstar

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:31 pm 1st post by wolves are often awkward
yes wolves are bad at mafia always

Not what I said. Interesting that's what you took out of it

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:50 pm saying wolves' first posts are awkward is super reductive and implies that rolling wolf would have an adverse affect on most or all people who roll it

you're never going to find wolves by lynching off first posts

I said often awkward, and then described the progress after said awkward wolf entrances.

You certainly can find wolves based off entrance posts, and again that's not exactly what I was saying, as outlined above and in the original post.

I'm not advocating to lynch exclusively off awkward first posts, it's simply one of many tools that can be used while scum hunting.

You've never caught scum off entrances? I have, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 pm I disagree fundamentally with your statement that wolves often have awkward first posts
only bad wolves do

anyway this is probably becoming irrelevant to the game

Some players are not comfortable being wolves. It's pretty well documented that people who have more information than they're allowed to show can have behaviors & interactions that can be categorized as awkward.

You're right tho, this is a convo best had outside the game.

How do you feel about LongCon's 3rd person limited omniscient posting?

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:21 pm it's a scum tell and I would lynch them for it

Agreed it's scummy. It makes it more difficult to communicate, and can be easily used to avoid directly engaging with other players, as well as obfuscate responses.

It's not a lynchable offense for me ATM, but it does set of my spidey sense

Where's Enrique, having a siesta? He seems content to post some derp clear, I'm not sure what's happening style stuff, but has seemed largely absent since.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:32 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:18 am alright so martin is good, falcon is too trigger happy and i don't know what to make of it. leaning sus atm though

my reads
Who have I pulled the trigger on that made you the most sus? Pew pew pew
i don't remember off the top of my head but it was like 2 people in a row and like not everyone can be scum. but i also don't know your playstyle well really

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:05 am i dream of becoming a stand up comedian
LMFAO WHO ARE YOU

Hi. I'm Vanilla Town, and it's D1.

I know that not everyone I sus is scum, and I'm ok with that. Cuz town make mistakes, bad reads, etc, as we don't have much info, especially this early on.

If even 1 of the players who I found scummy based off their entrance is a wolf? I'm more than ok with that.

[VOTE: Namook] aubergine

The wagon on ts is a little too easy methinks

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:32 pm SHIT EOD IS IN HALF AN HOUR

okokok

You posted twice previous to this post.

Anyone else see this panic as contrived?

3 ok's, eh? Alright, alright, alright

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:49 pm Were they the real deal? funnygurl had responded correctly to the mason check, corroborating ts account's claim. It seemed likely that the claim was either real, or that they were wolves together.

If they were wolves, and ts survived, then surely we would be tipped off when the nightkill failed to take one of them out. They would be exposed.

The 2nd bit looks a clever way to setup a future mislynch.

[VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

ts account wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:50 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:32 pm SHIT EOD IS IN HALF AN HOUR

okokok
You posted twice previous to this post.

Anyone else see this panic as contrived?

3 ok's, eh? Alright, alright, alright
if one more person hones in on an insignificant detail like this one more time I'm actually going to throw up ugh

In on an...3 words with 2 letters...

3×2 = 6...6...6

Oh.my.god. You're satanic scum!

You can go puke now, but don't swallow. Trust me, it's not good

Enrique looked horrible jumping onto Nanook after I did.

When I jumped onto Nanook, I believe ts had 6? Nanook 2? I didn't jump off ts, but where was Enriques vote before his jump? I'll have to check.

Anyways, his jump at EOD with no thread participation leading into it? Put Nanook at 4 to ts 6, possibly 5 if Nanook jumped from that wagon.

Scum. Book it.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:56 am Imagine CFD'ing a townie while I'm asleep

It happened. Care to take a look at the wagon movement at EoD, give us some thoughts?

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:57 am Votes that are posted in thread around EoD (can't look back otherwise)

falcon
Enrique
Martian
Trust Worthy
Ts account
Falcon jumps off (Noting this cause while i should)

Oh these
Falcon gives no case and lays a bear vote against a ts vote. Note: this is before funny came in and defended ts and people were looking at moving.
Enrique asks who to vote funny said maybe nanook and they voted saying nothing
Martian didn't like the town read which was also why funny disliked them (Most reason posted out of everyone one yet a concern they should have been more forward with earlyier as town)
Myself (TL) voted in order to not have tied votes it was at the time i wrote my post and changed it i think martions actially broke the tie but i rathered not mason last second.
ts account hammers it in for self pres saying its bad.

Falcon tries to jump off after EoD taking this as trying to seem more towny then they are/ still a top sus read for myself.

LC is around and didn't take a side except that no case on Nanook (Which is ture) but i honestly don't know where their vote laid.

Take this as
Mikey(TS) and Funny COULD be masons same as Alison and Tutuu am fine with letting them resolve and explain why they acted as they did cause your not all four townies.
LC needs to give reads and push them very passive Day 1. Same for Enrigue .

Thats some level 1 reads at 2am with trusty

This read on me is so bad, I think TL is town

Alright, so Dr Wilgy & MacD are wolves.

I love that MacD called me out as a high scum read in one of his early posts, then shortly thereafter calls me bad town that he'll shelter. Cuz that makes sense.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:18 pm Falcon can be our resident wrong town that I shield all game

Shortly before this he said I should be turboed. Who sees this turn as towny?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm Alright. I'm caught up at this point.

I heavily agree with Tutuu and Alison.

Mac/Enrique has some weight in being FG/TS's third. Maybe Falcon as well?

LC and TL I find a town lean.

Gut reading a scum Martin, but I'm not sure why.

This is how scum post. Hes all caught up, and has 4 small sentences which give no rationale behind the reads. Look at the last sentence...gut read, and then he's not sure why....

Guess what? All gut reads are because you dont know why...cuz if ya did, it wouldnt be gut read, it would be a cognitive read.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm Alright. I'm caught up at this point.

I heavily agree with Tutuu and Alison.

Mac/Enrique has some weight in being FG/TS's third. Maybe Falcon as well?

LC and TL I find a town lean.

Gut reading a scum Martin, but I'm not sure why.
This is how scum post. Hes all caught up, and has 4 small sentences which give no rationale behind the reads. Look at the last sentence...gut read, and then he's not sure why....

Guess what? All gut reads are because you dont know why...cuz if ya did, it wouldnt be gut read, it would be a cognitive read.
This is a pretty listless push. You sure you aren't mafia?

Why is it listless?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm Alright. I'm caught up at this point.

I heavily agree with Tutuu and Alison.

Mac/Enrique has some weight in being FG/TS's third. Maybe Falcon as well?

LC and TL I find a town lean.

Gut reading a scum Martin, but I'm not sure why.
This is how scum post. Hes all caught up, and has 4 small sentences which give no rationale behind the reads. Look at the last sentence...gut read, and then he's not sure why....

Guess what? All gut reads are because you dont know why...cuz if ya did, it wouldnt be gut read, it would be a cognitive read.
This is a pretty listless push. You sure you aren't mafia?

So, you're defending Dr Wilgy? How do you know I'm not pushing scum? You've already said he could be scum...why does it seem like you're defending him?

Especially since I could just have a shitty read? You don't know...if you're town, and he's not your scum bud that you're defending now, while mild sussing him earlier

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:30 pm Alright, so Dr Wilgy & MacD are wolves.

I love that MacD called me out as a high scum read in one of his early posts, then shortly thereafter calls me bad town that he'll shelter. Cuz that makes sense.
It can't be the case that both me and ts are telling the truth.

Apologies, I'm not sure I follow?

Tutuu's reads have movement & progression, and they're def coming from a game solve mindset. Wrong read on me, but they're a town lean for me.

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