The Syndicate

Hopefully this whole train thing doesn't steal the thunder of Snowpiercer Mafia, an idea I had 5 minutes ago, and am now fiercely committed to.

Here are the peeps over on the other tribe:

colonialbob
dharmahelper
Dom
Dragon D Luffy
Epignosis
Long Con
nutella
Quin
Speedchuck
sprityo
S~V~S

Who wants to bet that their thread is twice as long as ours by the end of Day 1?

One thing that I'm worried about is the whole Haiku protection thing. Unfortunately, we don't know who did or did not send in a haiku, and people have an incentive to lie about doing so in order to protect themselves.

This could potentially lead to an even more lackadaisical and pointless Day 1 than usual, where not only does everyone not know who the hell is scum, but we also don't even know who we can actually lynch.

Also, I'm assuming the two tribes will merge on Day 6, when Cbob/Charlie dies/reincarnates.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:15 am are there any other game setups that seem to be referenced here? it seems like at the very least we have Chicka Chicka with The Button and reviving into different roles and apparently survivor with the tribes?

The idea for the GOC’s is that literally every game from last year is welded together into a giant monstrosity. Expect a whole lotta game references.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:30 am
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:19 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:15 am are there any other game setups that seem to be referenced here? it seems like at the very least we have Chicka Chicka with The Button and reviving into different roles and apparently survivor with the tribes?
The idea for the GOC’s is that literally every game from last year is welded together into a giant monstrosity. Expect a whole lotta game references.
I take credit for the initial idea.

Remember how I incorporated the Red Room into the first GoC, INH? Good times. Feels like ages ago.

Media still might be my favorite role I've ever had in a game.

Do I have to give the same damn spiel that I give in every game these days?

I do not like Day 1's, Sam I Am. I'm slow to develop reads. Usually, I view Day 1 as an utterly useless day, and I very rarely get anything out of it.

None of this is new behavior for me.

TBH, I don't understand why I, in particular, am being singled out by Sloonei and Scotty as the initial suspect here. Plenty of people haven't done shit in this game, and I'm called out for some nebulous "blend-y" reasoning.

I hate this kind of shit, because there's no way for me to defend myself other than saying "nuh-uh."

Mainly, I'm just sick of having to get suspected early on in every other game because I like to wait a bit before committing to a solid read on someone. Sorry if that doesn't jive with the preferred playstyle. I've never claimed to be supatown, but that doesn't make me any less town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:04 pm Scotty didn't say he suspects you. He just said stuff about you. His conclusion was that he's unlikely to vote for you.

You did things on Day 1 in LotR. Why can't you do those things here? How else would you prefer we play Day 1?

You mean this more-than-a-little-bit satirical post I made?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:03 pm Real explanation: I've gotten so bored of the same cycle I go through at the beginning of every game of getting annoyed at everyone's (IMO) pointless reads that at this point I've decided to embrace it and just post random accusatory nonsense until someone does something worthy of actual suspicion.

So far, no one in this game has done anything worthy of actual suspicion. In fact, seemingly only two people have actually given reads, you and Scotty. I honestly don't know what you want from me. Random accusatory nonsense?

When someone does something that I find suspicious, I will post that I find them suspicious.

I don't have any magical solution to fix Day 1's, I just know how I play them: usually pretty reservedly until someone does something that makes me take notice. No one has done anything that has made me take notice.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:23 pm The explanation that I gave for suspecting you was that your early posts were "easy observations about game mechanics" and that you were perhaps "trying to appear involved." Do you have anything to say about that, or about me for saying it?

What can I say other than "I disagree?" Your suspicion is based on feelings, so all I can do is keep on doing what I'm doing, and hopefully, your feelings about my posts will change.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:35 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:23 pm The explanation that I gave for suspecting you was that your early posts were "easy observations about game mechanics" and that you were perhaps "trying to appear involved." Do you have anything to say about that, or about me for saying it?
What can I say other than "I disagree?" Your suspicion is based on feelings, so all I can do is keep on doing what I'm doing, and hopefully, your feelings about my posts will change.
What part do you disagree with?

That my early posts were "easy observations about game mechanics" that were "trying to appear involved." There are no factual criticisms in these points, just a proclaimed feeling of disingenuousness.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:02 am The observation is as close to factual as we'll get on Day 1. You started the game off by making observations about the mechanics, and you did not have much else to say until we started this dialogue. What was the purpose of those posts you made?

To understand and articulate the mechanics of the game. I was unable to speculate on anyone else's alignment, because nothing anyone had posted made me read them one way or the other. Once again, you and Scotty are the only people who have talked about your reads. I have yet to understand what makes me somehow more "blend-y" than the other 9 people on the tribe.

Trying out the ol' "talk in circles until the other person gets annoyed and refuses to engage," eh, Sloonei?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:21 am I'm trying to make the game happen.

One man's dynamic gameplay is another man's flailing, self-defeating attempts at instigation.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:30 am
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:27 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:21 am I'm trying to make the game happen.
One man's dynamic gameplay is another man's flailing, self-defeating attempts at instigation.
You've provided a lot more content than you had previously. This plays right into my hand. You know not what you do.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:08 pm Talk more about my case on INH.

Didn't you already basically admit that your case against me is an inherently-hollow trojan horse designed to stir up shit and get people talking?

In terms of voting, I wouldn't be against going the Scotty route and voting for JoH. This is the Game of friggin' Champions. Champions, at the very least, show up.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:20 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:08 pm Talk more about my case on INH.
Didn't you already basically admit that your case against me is an inherently-hollow trojan horse designed to stir up shit and get people talking?
That question was specifically for sig.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:31 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:20 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:08 pm Talk more about my case on INH.
Didn't you already basically admit that your case against me is an inherently-hollow trojan horse designed to stir up shit and get people talking?
That question was specifically for sig.

In light of your interpretation of my case on you, how do you feel about sig calling it "odd"?

I agree with sig's assessment, mainly due to my own interpretation of your case.

Eh. Sloonei’s case against Sig seems to be based on him not eagerly complying with his tactics of instigation.

Went with Jack. C’mon dude, you gotta show up.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:29 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:20 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:08 pm Talk more about my case on INH.
Didn't you already basically admit that your case against me is an inherently-hollow trojan horse designed to stir up shit and get people talking?
That question was specifically for sig.
I feel like it was a hollow trojan horse case designed to stir up shit and get people talking.
why is that odd?

because it’s disingenuous and makes any reactions to it more or less useless. I like players who say what they mean. Deception, even when it’s well-intentioned instigation, only serves to muddy the waters and confuse civilians.

[VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Wasn’t sure if I had to do this to be counted

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:33 pm What do you think about INH going after an "inactive" so soon after fumbling the ball in Fellowship by being confirmed town but leading no lynches and in fact not even voting at MYLO? (I fumbled too but not for lack of trying to move the ball.)

Yes, I totally fucked blacxthorne HannaK Fellowship. I fully admit that I completely ballsed up that game for the civilians. I don't really understand why you're judging my Bass_The_Clever in parenchyma game uninured that truly undiscoverable Amy Pond. Also, there's a targeted between showing up sporadically since the beginning, (my problem in LOTR) and not showing SVS at all.

My vote for you was both a shot in the dark, and a nudge to get you to, y'know, post in this game. A talkative JoH setup way more DharmaHelper to civilians than a silent firstclass. wedded I'm insanified which is fun.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:58 pm Why are you not voting for insertnamehere?

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nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:35 pm Fuck it. sig's all over the place. I'm re-reading interactions between him and Sloonei, and he's floundering like crazy. He might be weird, but not usually floundery. I want to have more time to look at the Lorab comparison before I make an uninformed vote in her direction. Pulling the trigger and vote sig. (Did I do that right? Friggin' tags.)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aubergine

First off, I'd like to direct as many people as possible to what could be my magnum opus in terms of mafia posting, where I took a post explaining my complicated stance on Sloonei, (warily reading as town, but definitely not taking my eyes off of him) ran it through an insanifier, and sang the results into my phone. I then spent twenty minutes in Garageband making whatever the hell this is:

SLOONEI {INH REMIX}

Quick non-insanified explanation of my Sig vote yesterday.

I didn't like his statements on the haiku situation, it kinda felt like covering for possible liars.

I sided with Boomslang on the whole 70% comment. Thought it was weird, and didn't like how people jumped to sig's defense and attacked Boomslang simply for pointing it out.

Then there's his flippity floppity treatment of Sloonei which just felt disingenuous. TBH, I might end up voting for him again today.

People I'm looking at today, in no particular order:

Sig - Same reasons as yesterday. May vote for him.
Daisy - Not really done much other than go after Boomslang for kinda flimsy reasons and randomly vote for Wilgy. May vote for her.
Kyle - I suck at reading him, so I'm kinda fighting my instincts on this one, but I really didn't like his overreaction to the perceived overreaction of Boomslang's 70% comment. Not gonna vote for him today due to insanification.
Scotty - The Lorab thing is weak sauce. I myself sometimes struggle with having solid reads, and can be hella reticent to concretely voice my opinions, so Lorab is reading as a town-read to me. Scotty sure is posting a bunch, but I'm not really sure what all he's saying. Plus, he hasn't yet posted a Survivor Mafia 2 in The Drawing Board forum. We should lynch him solely for that. May vote for him.
Wilgy - Good ol' unreadable clusterfuck-y wiggly Wilgy. I appreciate his defense of me against Sloonei's nonsense, but he's still one big question mark to me, way more than perhaps any other player. Probably won't vote for him.
Nijuu - Like his Sig vote, but still a bit of a blank read. I know that this is WIFOM soup, but considering that it appears that mafia remain mafia after losing a life, I can't help but wonder if they'd NK one of their own early on just to muddy up the waters. It's a dumb reason to suspect Nijuu, as I'm well aware, but it's why I can't really loosen up and townread him. Probably won't vote for him.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:36 am You guys! Prior to me making this post, the other tribe has literally exactly twice as many posts as us.

Told ya so.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:17 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:12 pm The other tribe also has two roles that were made public at the start of the day:
One that forces a player each day to post in haiku, and another that gets to post a message to the thread at the start of each day.

I also just had the thought that perhaps our button role realigns the tribes.
I like this thought except that what happens when the tribes merge?
The button will have been squandered.

Or the button merges the tribes.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:05 pm If INH is silenced I'm fairly comfortable saying we have a civilian silencer who is required to target each night.

Not silenced, and not a fan of the Boomslang wagon.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:46 am I have been doing most of my reading at work, which is why when I post it has more thoughts. I can't post as easily at work. So I know that when I was catching up once Wilgy started talking something he said jumped out at me and immediately made me think, "teammates." But I can't recall off the top of my head. I will need to find it again. I just don't have time tonight.

On another note, I think I was a lot more loud about the fact I didn't like Boomslang jumping on the dumb 70% thing. I get why it doesn't make sense as a statement, but I think Boomslang is a really smart dude. He should have been able to realize, that this statement is not one that logically would say "Baddie." So the fact that he based his vote on that dumb comment is what bothers me. in fact that is what bothers me about Boomslang overall. I have a high amount of respect for his intellect in general. And I struggle to find the logic in his suspicions. This could entirely just be a difference of how we think, that is my only hindrance in this. But I have no qualms about the fact I suspected Boom based on that. I think it's weird no one really talked much about the fact I took this strong stance about it. And even weirder that I don't even remember Kyle having made a big deal of it.

I don't have the immediate feeling of "TOWN" from Kyle that I have in the past, but I haven't had any kind of feel.

At one point in my read through, I had the thought that I believed either Boomslang, Blooper or both were bad but I didn't believe they were both good. I can't recall why now though. Perhaps something to do with how they interacted. I'll have to revisit to figure it out again.

Uh something else, I can't recall. Someone that had listed suspicion of me seemed fake as shit, but now I don't remember which one. Must research to recall.

That's all I can think of tonight. My energy went to researching Wilgy to decide if I was on crack or not regarding my perception of his meta. I decided that I don't think I am. However I will add this caveat. The older games lack this pattern. But I feel like it is present in all the games I checked from 2017 and so far in 2018. I didn't look through all 2016, I noticed the lack of it back in the 2015 games, but we're talking three years ago. I still feel fairly strongly that we are seeing bad Wilgy here. So much so I am willing to toss my vote there right now.

VOTE DrWilgy You asked for an aubergine fiiiiight, and I love you toooo. But I still think you are bad. But I love you, Baddie Badderson.

Coaching weak suspicions in "you're usually better" nonsensical sentiment. Boomslang is usually smarter (which Daisy and Sloonei seem to define as agreeing with their suspicions instead of having their own opinions) and DrWilgy is, I guess, more gimmick-y? The only thing from Wilgy's game-content that I've found disagreeable is his Boomslang vote today. Daisy's highly-subjective entirely-meta case against him just seems like formless finger pointing.

I'd vote for Daisy or Sig today over anyone else. I'm gonna try and ISO Scotty at some point and give my thoughts on him and his glut of content.

Imma gonna go ahead and aubergine Spacedaisy for now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:10 pm Scotty
Jackofhearts
Spacedaisy
Drwilgy
Kylemii
sig
niju
Marmot
INH
LoRab
Boomslang

Still changing my mind left and right and nothing's quite settled, but this is where I'm at right now. Marmot's made a few posts where he looked actively engaged in the thread, but I haven't seen much follow up from him on that. I've calmed down on sig and kyle and can see some earnest thought processes poking through in their posts.
Everyone should be on the table, but I think it's important that we work toward a consensus today. I would like to test my theory about the tribes alternating between lynching and nightkilling. This would require that we actually lynch somebody today. So far we seem to be going toward boomslang and I support that.

Why is Scotty your top town read?

Screw it, I'll make my own super-cool rainbow list. What it lacks in visual flair, it makes up for in readability.

JoH
Marmot
Ninja
Boomslang
Sloonei
Lorab
DrWilgy
Kylemii
Scotty
Sig
Spacedaisy

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:10 pm Scotty
Jackofhearts
Spacedaisy
Drwilgy
Kylemii
sig
niju
Marmot
INH
LoRab
Boomslang

Still changing my mind left and right and nothing's quite settled, but this is where I'm at right now. Marmot's made a few posts where he looked actively engaged in the thread, but I haven't seen much follow up from him on that. I've calmed down on sig and kyle and can see some earnest thought processes poking through in their posts.
Everyone should be on the table, but I think it's important that we work toward a consensus today. I would like to test my theory about the tribes alternating between lynching and nightkilling. This would require that we actually lynch somebody today. So far we seem to be going toward boomslang and I support that.

Also, why did you "calm down" on Sig?

Has the case against him been countered in any meaningful way?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:24 pm Scotty is my top town read because I get a stronger sense from him than anyone else that he's trying to solce the game. He's here, he's engaged and he's not afraid to state his mind. His previous role is the only slight complication.

I'm not concerned with anyone else's stated case against sig right now. My own thoughts on him havd shifted to a town lean. He looks to me like a player who doesn't care about how he is being perceived, which I take as a good thing.

I'm still not inspired by a single word of any case against spacedaisy.

Your reads seem to be solely driven by emotion. And, as you've shown with your suspicion of Boomslang, you seem to be emotionally favorable towards people attempting to work with you and who also agree with your reads, while being judgmental towards those with whom you disagree.

This response just knocked you down a couple of places on my rainbow list.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:56 pm
Insertnamehere has died. He was:

39: Tina Wesson (Survivor). Each night, you will choose one player to inject with an innoculation to a particular virus. Any player who is given the innoculation will be unable to catch the virus and will be cured if they already have it. You may not target the same player twice.

Carry on.

I hope y’all get the goddamn plague, you bunch of jerks. Will fully catch up and respond to stuff when I get home in an hour or so.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?

Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:18 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?
Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.
who would you lynch today, given the opportunity?

The person my vote is on. Her or Sig.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:21 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?
Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.
Even if it means our tribe fails to lynch yet again?

Especially. Hopefully the people on the other tribe have their shit together more than we do.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:21 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?
Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.
Even if it means our tribe fails to lynch yet again?
Why are you so fixated on this? If people haven't achieved reliable consensus, why force their hand, especially when the other tribe seems to be chugging along just fine? If we go into the merge with most of our tribe, we have that entire background of play to inform our choices in later game.

Forcing people to rush to a consensus means that they'll think less about their votes.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:27 pm
Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:21 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?
Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.
Even if it means our tribe fails to lynch yet again?
Why are you so fixated on this? If people haven't achieved reliable consensus, why force their hand, especially when the other tribe seems to be chugging along just fine? If we go into the merge with most of our tribe, we have that entire background of play to inform our choices in later game.
I've been making this exact argument the last two days. But now I am of the opinion that whichever tribe fails to lynch becomes the victim of the nightkill. I'd rather we lynch a player around whom there is suspicion, than have the mafia pick off a player who is generally considered a townie. coughcough.

Even if you're true with your assumptions, this still just goes back to what I was saying about complicity. Seems to me that I can choose to either be an active participant in killing a civilian, or a bystander. I'm choosing the latter.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:29 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:21 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?
Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.
Even if it means our tribe fails to lynch yet again?
Especially. Hopefully the people on the other tribe have their shit together more than we do.
They do. They've had a much more productive thread than us. But for the sake of advancing the game, I want us to lynch somebody instead of them. It would provide them with information about the game which I think would be valuable to them.

The only information I feel like you're gonna get is who was willing to jump onto a half-assed bandwagon in order to mislynch a civilian. I don't want my name to be included in that.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:32 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:27 pm
Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:21 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?
Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.
Even if it means our tribe fails to lynch yet again?
Why are you so fixated on this? If people haven't achieved reliable consensus, why force their hand, especially when the other tribe seems to be chugging along just fine? If we go into the merge with most of our tribe, we have that entire background of play to inform our choices in later game.
I've been making this exact argument the last two days. But now I am of the opinion that whichever tribe fails to lynch becomes the victim of the nightkill. I'd rather we lynch a player around whom there is suspicion, than have the mafia pick off a player who is generally considered a townie. coughcough.
Even if you're true with your assumptions, this still just goes back to what I was saying about complicity. Seems to me that I can choose to either be an active participant in killing a civilian, or a bystander. I'm choosing the latter.
I disagree with this philosophy wholeheartedly, but I don't suspect you for it.

I'm moving my pointless vote over to Sloonei mainly out of sheer annoyance.

aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:38 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:29 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:21 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm @insertnamehere @Marmot whatcha gonna do with them votes?
Nothin', as I think both Boomslang and Wilgy are civilians. I ain't choosing to be complicit in this shit.
Even if it means our tribe fails to lynch yet again?
Especially. Hopefully the people on the other tribe have their shit together more than we do.
They do. They've had a much more productive thread than us. But for the sake of advancing the game, I want us to lynch somebody instead of them. It would provide them with information about the game which I think would be valuable to them.
The only information I feel like you're gonna get is who was willing to jump onto a half-assed bandwagon in order to mislynch a civilian. I don't want my name to be included in that.
I'm talking about the other tribe. They're having more success at reading each other than we are, but their thoughts about the game mechanics are way off base. If we manage to lynch somebody, it will give them information about how the game is structured. I'm looking out for them, they're my buddies. we really bonded last night.

Uh huh. Well, I guess I value not mislynching a civilian over helping the other tribe...what, know that we can lynch people? How exactly would that even influence them? In what way would them knowing that help the civilian cause more than a mislynch?

Current status of my relationship with Sloonei:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:22 pm I’m caught upish and I apologize to the mods for this post.

Also let’s lynch INH.

how about no

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:00 pm Cause it eliminates a player, revealing actual alignment.

Cause he seemingly wasn’t killed by the mafia.

Cause I still think his reason for almost getting me lynched Day 1 was dishonest. I backed off cause he was cursed but that’s not really a good reason.

So, 1/3 random bloodlust, 1/3 suspicion of me dying weirdly (?), and 1/3 resentment over me voting for him when he didn't show up on Day 1 of the Game of friggin' Champions?

Yeah, this is BS.

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