The Syndicate

hi everyone, I'm here. Happy to see some friendly faces and welcome to the newcomers, I hope you enjoy the game.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:14 pm I don't think that's how HIPAA works

Aaaaaaannnd D1 lynch successfully found.

lol, I'm betting not. And she is right about HIPPA.

FYI for those of you not in the other game (they already know) I am on vacation this week so will be in and out a lot. I'll try to warn in advance if I am not going to be here for EOD.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:42 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:50 pm Doms in the game so let's lynch hom first for reasons

I see you have not changed at all in my long absence and no one here missed me at all.

That is not true Dom, many of us missed you.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:52 pm How's everyone's day zero going?

Pretty good Owner. I think I've spotted a civ among the talkers but I'll hold off naming them until day 1 after I observe some more behavior. How bout you?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 am Current thoughts are in a world where Sloonie or Drag are mafia they either both are or neither are.

sig, can you talk through why you hold this opinion?

[mention]Creature[/mention] since you are bored could you do me a favor and tell me any games on this site where you have been town? I have one where you were bad.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:32 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:22 am @Creature since you are bored could you do me a favor and tell me any games on this site where you have been town? I have one where you were bad.

Sorry, I don't remember any town games I was bad this site. Are you referring to the scum game I didn't know what shit town was on?

I think you were scum in Arrowverse, D. Faraday's game but correct me if I am wrong. I would like to find one where you were town. If you don't remember any maybe I can find one in the Hall of Fame.

linki

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:40 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:22 am @Creature since you are bored could you do me a favor and tell me any games on this site where you have been town? I have one where you were bad.

juliets imo should know her place

I don't know what this means.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:06 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:02 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:32 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:22 am @Creature since you are bored could you do me a favor and tell me any games on this site where you have been town? I have one where you were bad.

Sorry, I don't remember any town games I was bad this site. Are you referring to the scum game I didn't know what shit town was on?

I think you were scum in Arrowverse, D. Faraday's game but correct me if I am wrong. I would like to find one where you were town. If you don't remember any maybe I can find one in the Hall of Fame.

linki

I think you MoDed one. He was town in Fallout.

Oh thanks! I am so bad at remembering games, even the ones I play.

linki

And thank you Creature, I appreciate it.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

Seriously? Because he told you there were only 4 pages to read?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:06 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:53 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

Seriously? Because he told you there were only 4 pages to read?

Hey Juliets. It's time for the first impressions

Oh no, you know how I hate those. I can't tell squat from a first post.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:07 pm Also I labelled you as bad from your first post, what do you think about that?

You are mistaken. What did you see you thought was bad?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:07 pm Also I labelled you as bad from your first post, what do you think about that?

You are mistaken. What did you see you thought was bad?

Hmm we'll see. I'm not really sure, I guess I felt something was off about your usual opening post. It felt kind of cold and distant rather than welcoming. A replica instead of the genuine thing. The heavy punctuation I think lol.

Nova, are you sure you're not thinking of some other post? This was my first post of the game (below). It has two periods and two commas. Is that heavy punctuation?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:28 pm hi everyone, I'm here. Happy to see some friendly faces and welcome to the newcomers, I hope you enjoy the game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:43 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 am Pretty good Owner. I think I've spotted a civ among the talkers but I'll hold off naming them until day 1 after I observe some more behavior. How bout you?

Can you tell us now?

I lean civ on Creature right now but I'm gonna hold back my reason until I see some more behavior.

Wait, what - you voted for me while I was answering your question?

linki

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:07 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:59 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:07 pm Also I labelled you as bad from your first post, what do you think about that?

You are mistaken. What did you see you thought was bad?

Hmm we'll see. I'm not really sure, I guess I felt something was off about your usual opening post. It felt kind of cold and distant rather than welcoming. A replica instead of the genuine thing. The heavy punctuation I think lol.

Nova, are you sure you're not thinking of some other post? This was my first post of the game (below). It has two periods and two commas. Is that heavy punctuation?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:28 pm hi everyone, I'm here. Happy to see some friendly faces and welcome to the newcomers, I hope you enjoy the game.

That's the one! No mistake, it's you. I guess heavy punctuation might be an exaggeration, but the cold and distant feeling are still there. Maybe it's the lack of exclamation point lol. Gut feeling was that it is fabricated, I'm not getting your usual energy and enthusiasm. Feels like you're just replicating it to keep up with your usual opening posts.

You're not getting my usual energy and enthusiasm? I don't understand your impression but arguing with you over an impression seems like a waste of time.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:12 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:43 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 am Pretty good Owner. I think I've spotted a civ among the talkers but I'll hold off naming them until day 1 after I observe some more behavior. How bout you?

Can you tell us now?

I lean civ on Creature right now but I'm gonna hold back my reason until I see some more behavior.

Wait, what - you voted for me while I was answering your question?

linki

I suppose I did.

Got any other reads? Why are you in the habit of holding back information in the early stages of this game?

Habit? We're talking about one person, hardly a habit.

I have a civ lean on Creature because his groaning about being bored and multiple posts also happened in another game where he was civ. He also did the multiple posting early on in a game where he was bad but there was a difference that if you don't mind I'd like to keep to myself for the time being.

I'll give some GTH reads - which is all I can give so early in a game - at a later time. I'm with family and we have dinner and entertainment plans.

lots of linki I will read later

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:13 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:06 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:53 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

Seriously? Because he told you there were only 4 pages to read?

Hey Juliets. It's time for the first impressions

Oh no, you know how I hate those. I can't tell squat from a first post.

This is maybe a more subtle version of explaining meta but if we’re judging the lot I think this is just as noteworthy.

Tony I don't understand what you mean by this.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:39 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:34 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:13 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:06 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:53 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

Seriously? Because he told you there were only 4 pages to read?

Hey Juliets. It's time for the first impressions

Oh no, you know how I hate those. I can't tell squat from a first post.

This is maybe a more subtle version of explaining meta but if we’re judging the lot I think this is just as noteworthy.

Tony I don't understand what you mean by this.

I think it’s a very interesting point, but not one about you.

One of our first major topics of conversation was sig’s preemptive meta description. A few people (Dragomir is the one I distinctly remember) got in his face about it.

You did something in the same ballpark, but not exactly the same as what sig did. I would like to hear what those people who complained about sig have to say about you here.

Huh? I have a running complaint with nova that he likes to see first impression reads from people and I am not a believer that that tactic works for me. How is that similar to sig giving a meta read on himself?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:45 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:44 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:39 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:34 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:13 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:06 pm

Hey Juliets. It's time for the first impressions

Oh no, you know how I hate those. I can't tell squat from a first post.

This is maybe a more subtle version of explaining meta but if we’re judging the lot I think this is just as noteworthy.

Tony I don't understand what you mean by this.

I think it’s a very interesting point, but not one about you.

One of our first major topics of conversation was sig’s preemptive meta description. A few people (Dragomir is the one I distinctly remember) got in his face about it.

You did something in the same ballpark, but not exactly the same as what sig did. I would like to hear what those people who complained about sig have to say about you here.

Huh? I have a running complaint with nova that he likes to see first impression reads from people and I am not a believer that that tactic works for me. How is that similar to sig giving a meta read on himself?

Because you are telling us all about your meta.

I was responding to nova, period. There was no intent on my part to do anything else.

Ok Sloonei, I think I misunderstood. I'm off to bed.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:45 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:44 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:39 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:34 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:13 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:15 pm

Oh no, you know how I hate those. I can't tell squat from a first post.

This is maybe a more subtle version of explaining meta but if we’re judging the lot I think this is just as noteworthy.

Tony I don't understand what you mean by this.

I think it’s a very interesting point, but not one about you.

One of our first major topics of conversation was sig’s preemptive meta description. A few people (Dragomir is the one I distinctly remember) got in his face about it.

You did something in the same ballpark, but not exactly the same as what sig did. I would like to hear what those people who complained about sig have to say about you here.

Huh? I have a running complaint with nova that he likes to see first impression reads from people and I am not a believer that that tactic works for me. How is that similar to sig giving a meta read on himself?

Because you are telling us all about your meta.

I noted that. fyi.

juliets-- pick two people you think are teammates, pls. juliets

It's too early for me to pick teammates but if you're asking me GTH I think timmer and Rej. Epi's analysis of timmer's post times was helpful and I also wonder how timmer could have posted in Day 0 if he had not read anything posted in that day (he responded to Owner). Rej's "my civilian way" sounded off, why add that to a sentence? And then to top it off he voted for timmer because of his "read the 4 pages" answer which seemed like an overreaction or an excuse to put a vote on a teammate.

That's my feeling at the moment.

I am leaning town on nova. He is posting a lot early, offering opinions, getting people to talk, and doing his first impression reads which I consider as hallmarks of his civ game.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm I could also vote Rej as this point. Regarding the "civillian way" thing, what I don't like about that is that I don't think he has commented on it at all. Which is sketchy boots.

I just looked at his ISO and you are right as far as I could see, no comment on the "my civilian way" even though several of us have mentioned it. Odd indeed.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

Is that shade or something? Does it say something about my alignment? Who would be the most intersting player to flip for you right now?

This was my first thought too; though I don’t think it’s accurate. My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

I’ll answer one of the questions: rej flip is the obvious answer, but I think Drago or Epi is the more interesting bet.

Tony, if these would be the most interesting to have lynched why are you voting for Jack? Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you mean about rej, Drago, or Epi.

Tomorrow I will be traveling and am not sure I'll be around for EOD so I'm going to go ahead and place a vote on Rej.

Rej, I went back over your case again and have re-printed it here below in the spoiler. I don't rule out changing my mind about you but I see a lot of things in your case about timmer that just don't make sense. Plus, I'm really stuck on the fact you voted timmer just because he told you to read the thread. It looked like an overreaction or as I said earlier, that ya'll are teammates. Please answer my questions after the spoiler about your case.
So here are some things I just don't get:

1. Why are you calling your question about someone summarizing Day 0 a "bait" question? Bait for what? It looked like a normal question from someone who was not caught up.

2. You said timmer threw shade at you but I didn't see his comment that it was just 4 pages you could read it as shade. You said "if you were a civ that didn't catch up in the thread, then you should follow the same interest as me." What does that mean, follow the same interest as you?

2. What do you mean when you say timmer "got rid of your wagon"? I don't remember there being a wagon on timmer. The paragraph did not make sense to me.

3. At the end you call timmer totally opportunistic. I don't get that - can you explain further? You voted for him first, not the other way around.

Also, what is fos?

[mention]Rej[/mention] sorry I forgot to "mention" you. Please see my long post above ^ ^ with questions for you.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:59 pm @Rej I really don't think it's unreasonable or even not town-like for someone to ask you to read D0 for yourself. It was 4 pages as they said. And they hadn't read it themselves. Like, it just doesn't seem that strange to me to answer that.

Yes, this. Rej you called your question a "bait" question but I don't see anything about it that is bait. So for timmer to answer it with 'it's only four pages read it yourself' sounds as normal as your question. What answer could he have given you that would have seemed civ since he couldn't give you a summary (because he hadn't read it)?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:53 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:14 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:44 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:00 pm Guess who's back back again

Can someone summarize noteable events from the 24hours I missed in one hunch?

People voting for Creature are bad or alternatively Creature is bad

Why?

A hunch.
I haven’t fully read the end of day 1 when I get home I’ll find the time. But that’s the sort of thing I’ve seen mafia do to try to queue up a few lunches in the early game and avoid suspicion from running up town lynches. And also Epi is a pet scum read.

Tony, why is Epi a pet scum read? Do you mean in general or just this game?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:38 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:23 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:53 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:14 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:44 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:00 pm Guess who's back back again

Can someone summarize noteable events from the 24hours I missed in one hunch?

People voting for Creature are bad or alternatively Creature is bad

Why?

A hunch.
I haven’t fully read the end of day 1 when I get home I’ll find the time. But that’s the sort of thing I’ve seen mafia do to try to queue up a few lunches in the early game and avoid suspicion from running up town lynches. And also Epi is a pet scum read.

Tony, why is Epi a pet scum read? Do you mean in general or just this game?

This game. I’ll pull some posts tonight but he’s seemed off in a few different ways, he hasn’t been as aggressive and he’s had more focus than I normally see from town Epi.

Ok that will be great, thanks. And I'll re-read him with your comments in mind.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:45 pm I'm voting Lunalee.

How come?

I can smell the mafia emanating from her. It smells like mildewed lemongrass and pickles.

So Epi, I am used to reasons like this from you but I have to ask anyway - is there anything about her posts that makes you suspect her?

Wow Epi I did make you work. Appreciate the insight though.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] I would like to hear what you have to say about Epi's points.

Also fyi, we leave to drive home early tomorrow and won't get home until late. I'll try to check in when we get in.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:02 pm Wow Epi I did make you work. Appreciate the insight though.

@Lunalee I would like to hear what you have to say about Epi's points.

short answer, I jumped into the game and voted when I shouldn't have.
long answer, when I play with new names I easily forget who people are and who I had formed opinions on. I also was on my phone before end of day and didn't know how to navigate well enough to check who I had opinions on the previous day. Also I was at a wedding that started at lynch time and didn't feel comfortable using my phone for long before the ceremony started.

Bear with me folks, I'll try to be a bit more competent even though I'm on vacation this week.

Thanks Luna. I have sympathy for your phone posting issue because I also have problems with it. And your explanation about the wedding sounds sincere. I'm dead tired though and will have to think about this some more tomorrow and re-visit Epi's post.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:00 am [VOTE: Mac] aubergine

nova, can you talk about your vote? What are you seeing?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:55 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:59 am I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.

The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.

In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.

Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.


[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

hate

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:02 pm Wow Epi I did make you work. Appreciate the insight though.

@Lunalee I would like to hear what you have to say about Epi's points.

short answer, I jumped into the game and voted when I shouldn't have.
long answer, when I play with new names I easily forget who people are and who I had formed opinions on. I also was on my phone before end of day and didn't know how to navigate well enough to check who I had opinions on the previous day. Also I was at a wedding that started at lynch time and didn't feel comfortable using my phone for long before the ceremony started.

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

sleep
Bear with me folks, I'll try to be a bit more competent even though I'm on vacation this week.

Quin, is it sable's post that you hate? Or Luna's?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:47 am Long Con and Sloonei are big shadow monsters here

Yeah, it's true. I'll do what I can.

I screwed up the chess game... using a board to track the moves because I'm not Sherlock Holmes, and I thought a move had been made that wasn't... now I'm going to lose some pieces because of it.

@TonyStarkPrime

1. d4 d5
2. e4 dxe4
3. Nc3 f5
4. Bf4 h6
5. Qh5+ Kd7

LC, I'm getting a little concerned. So much chess, so little digging. Can you provide some thoughts about the game?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:40 am Has anyone seen Drago? What does he think?

Tony is this why you are voting Drago? I noticed he hasn't been around since Saturday so I don't know what he thinks.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:05 am Let me ask a question of perception:

Pretend I was the author of Lunalee's posts and votes. What would be your opinion of me? Of Creature?

Epi, I would probably think you were bad because it would be so unlike you to get people confused and not place a vote on the person you had indicated earlier you were suspicious of. From Lunalee though it sounds plausible. I'm having a hard time trying to convince myself she is bad.

I have an appointment in an hour and a half that will last through EOD and am having a hard time seeing a mafia or that back stabbing girl. Someone just said it might be Epi but I'm confused about the evidence for that. I don't like that Drago has disappeared - did I miss something there?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:35 am I also kind of think Epi is Zola Malfeazium, and every faction needs her to be dead if they want to win.

LC why do you think he is Zola?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:48 am I could buy a nutella vote.

Why?

I am getting close to my deadline and am considering voting a non-contributor. I just haven't had as much time as I thought I would have to do analysis this morning and both Creature and Luna are feeling civ to me right now.

Ok, I've got to go. I re-read the rules and realized the non-contributors will get mod killed or replaced so voting for one of them doesn't make sense. I re-read Tony and liked his posts about Drago, and where the heck is he anyway, so I'm going to vote there.

Dang, RIP Mac and Epi, two good roles in one night.

Also isn't Luna dead?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:32 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:31 pm Dang, RIP Mac and Epi, two good roles in one night.

Also isn't Luna dead?

Hmm where did you see that?

Which part? They are both above ^.

Well dang, I just looked again - we lynched nutella not Luna.

This whole time I thought we lynched Luna, lol.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:42 pm I think it's because of her character name starting with "Lu"

I think you may be right.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] you voted for Jack pretty early today. I looked through your ISO but didn't see anything about him. Can you talk to me about your vote?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:12 pm Nope I voted for Dragomir. Ah well. I thought I voted for Jack.

OK, I'll take another look at his posts from yesterday or if you decide you want to push his lynch maybe you could highlight the posts you feel are off.