The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:46 pm We should totally press the button ASAP

and is Ninja a sock puppet?

This puppet Blooper will be back tomorrow after her parents have left

Days 1 are kinda
hard to figure out. Now I'm
out of syllables.

Bloop bloop blooper
Blooper bloop bloop blooper blooper
Bloop bloop ninja bloop.

Ah crap, I already screwed up.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:07 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:11 pm GREETINGS EARTH PRIMATES
THIS SETUP AMUSES ME
HA-HA! HA! HA! HA!

Hello G-Man hi!
So happy to see you here,
Hope you will play soon.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:13 pm Days 1 are kinda
hard to figure out. Now I'm
out of syllables.

Why are you posting
in haiku? Wasn't that for
before the game start?

Or are you just getting it in for good measure?

Because haikus are fun (seriously, I do like them a lot)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:22 pm Day ends in an hour and a half and only 25% of the roster has voted.

You keep saying this. If others are thinking like me (and from what I've gathered, they are), they've read the three pages of posts (probably will change to four soon on my end) and still don't get much. (We can say all we want that "tons of info can be gauged from Day 1," but that's rarely the case in my experience.) I see a (mostly) random and super early rainbow list, some frustration from INH, and some meta-readings from previous games that I haven't played. I also see a lot of people who haven't checked in, and a mechanic that allows people who sent in lovely little poems to be immune.

At first, I agreed with whoever said to watch for that mechanic, and not bother voting for whoever might have sent in a haiku, but upon further thought, I figure one's votes this round, regardless of the mechanic, will give good info for future rounds. So, scrap that - I disagree. Vote what looks weird/bad, not what might not work. (It would be great to have both a baddie and a non-haiku poster, of course, but can we get that lucky? ) Also, apologies if I misinterpreted that line of thought - that's more my line of thought at first, then changing it.

On Days 1, I'm a fan, if I'm not finding anything of strong merit to vote someone for, to vote a major lurker or a non-poster. It is, as others have said, the Game of Champions, and Champions should at least check in. I will wait a bit longer to cast a vote and give a chance for this, but otherwise, I'm most likely to go this way.

Blooper break.

Ah. Well then. You and I are on the same page, haha. Fair enough I think my issue is, what do we talk about, if we don't have anything to talk about?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:17 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:16 pm Ah. Well then. You and I are on the same page, haha. Fair enough I think my issue is, what do we talk about, if we don't have anything to talk about?

what do you think of spacedaisy and sig?

I think sig is fumbling and being weird about his haiku. I don't think this is indicative of alignment. I do think it's weird as fuck

I liked Daisy's comment about INH's reaction being more civ than baddie. Or, rather, that it's logical frustration. Indicative of alignment for her? No. But I agree with her in this respect.

I should vote. I'm voting non-poster, and that would be [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine right now.

Linki - Not so much a case on Jack as he's not posted, and it's the friggin' GoC. Hopefully, however, he's all right IRL.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:48 pm
"No other thought entered my mind" Boomslang declared "as if we would be distracted by petty nonsense." Boomslang was mostly distracted by ninja.

Bewbs

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:54 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:54 pm And I was mainly messing around, I did write a haiku and knew I wouldn't be lynched so I figured i'd do some unconventional scum hunting and see how people reacted, I think we found out alot by the vote changes and last minute push onto Boom.

What did we find out?

What you said I agree with.

Lorab's vote for you was weird and I kind off disagree with it seemed like she wanted to avoid the main wagons.

Three votes for Jack is odd, I wouldn't be surprised if an anti-civ voted there.

I'd like to talk mechanics really quick. Everyone has two roles so does that mean mafia doesn't have chat? Or perhaps we don't have a traditional mafia. Otherwise I don't see how the former team members wouldn't out each other.

If I’ve read the rules correctly, it appears that anyone with BTSC keeps their previous alignment/win condition.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:02 am

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:17 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:16 pm Ah. Well then. You and I are on the same page, haha. Fair enough I think my issue is, what do we talk about, if we don't have anything to talk about?

what do you think of spacedaisy and sig?

I think sig is fumbling and being weird about his haiku. I don't think this is indicative of alignment. I do think it's weird as fuck

I liked Daisy's comment about INH's reaction being more civ than baddie. Or, rather, that it's logical frustration. Indicative of alignment for her? No. But I agree with her in this respect.

I should vote. I'm voting non-poster, and that would be [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine right now.

Linki - Not so much a case on Jack as he's not posted, and it's the friggin' GoC. Hopefully, however, he's all right IRL.

I didn’t care about this at the time but I don’t like this.

I was super active in Blooper’s game, outposted her by a mile in any games we’ve played together and have been posting daily for months.

Why not @ mention me? Why go for an “inactive” so early?

Not nearly as bad as INH but I’m not really a fan. I don’t have this same problem with Scotty’s vote against me. (I have different problems with it.)

If my gut read on Sig being bad is true, this could be a save. Almost too obvious. Not confident enough to push a Sig lynch anyhow.

Call this low yellow, high orange.

TBH, I'm unused to using the tags. Like, any of them. It took me ages to even get the damned spoiler tag right. I'll get it eventually.

I don't think we've played many, if any, games together, but I'm often inclined to vote inactives Day 1 unless something really looks super fishy (or someone outs themselves, lol). I don't like voting for people who are participating, especially those who "stand out" too much for being "weird," because I've seen it lynch a civ too many times for wanting to be weird. That includes times I've been friggin' lynched Day 1 All is fair game after Day 1, though.

I am glad to see you here, though! I'll catch up with reading and play more...errr, probably tomorrow. Maybe tonight, but that's unlikely. I'm using a rare break at work to post this, and I'm busy most of the afternoon and evening.

Yeah, let's not do that again, shall we?

Who's afraid of the Blooper, eh?

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:51 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:23 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:12 pmthe Slang?

Boomslang

Lorab why do you say that.

Aren't they a couple? I find couples rarely kill each other day 1--close friends, as well. I won't say it never happens, but I find it rare.

I was just going to agree with this. Night 2, sure, but Night 1? That's just mean and may result in nights of couch sleeping just sayin'

Ahhhh crap these days end early! And I'm still at work, fuuuuuuck.

Okay. Thankfully, there's not much to read, but my brain right after teaching all day is not so great. I shall do my best!

Hilarious thoughts while I'm reading this (mostly unhelping mudslinging) thread (meaning no offense - it's just mafia as usual):

What if...NO ONE was bad in our tribe? Perish the thought. But it would be funny.

Unhelpful* because I can't spell apparently

And by funny I mean terrible. It would be like the last GoC ending.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:58 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:41 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:07 pmYes, you have the most posts, but I have the most cat food stocked in my pantry out of all my friends. Doesn’t mean I own a cat.

is this an actual fact about your life or just a cool trendy saying? i like it either way

Yes.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:34 pm @Scotty

Why do you have cat food in your pantry?

You never know when the feline master race will knock on the door. You truly never know..

Meow.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:38 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:34 pm Hilarious thoughts while I'm reading this (mostly unhelping mudslinging) thread (meaning no offense - it's just mafia as usual):

What if...NO ONE was bad in our tribe? Perish the thought. But it would be funny.

This thought has crossed my mind. But I'm stuffing it down because I don't wanna give y'all an easy pass and it'd be boring.

Oh, agreed. I'll still vote and assume there are baddies. But geez, I wanted to throw my computer out the window last time.

Okay, I'm going to drive home. That was a pretty easy catch-up (I speed read, in case anyone decides to say some shit like that was fast), but I need to think, and perhaps more will be said in the interval between now and then.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:21 pm we have an hour and a half and basically no consensus at all

Who's your top suspect and why?

of the three i iso'd earlier, probably boomslang? that weirdly outraged 70% post is kinda sticking with me

To be fair, this is actually the stuff he gets worked up about IRL

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:50 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:35 pm And by funny I mean terrible. It would be like the last GoC ending.

what was the last GoC ending?

No one knows.

Alas, 'tis true. But for real, it was a crazy endgame with everyone suspecting each other and getting mad (and I had already been lynched and then rezzed as a Cylon and then on the chopping block AGAIN and I had no idea what was happening), only to find out that through some crazy loophole, everyone left was either good or indy, with the indy not needing to kill us. So such craziness is a possibility, but not likely.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:16 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:12 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:21 pm we have an hour and a half and basically no consensus at all

Who's your top suspect and why?

of the three i iso'd earlier, probably boomslang? that weirdly outraged 70% post is kinda sticking with me

To be fair, this is actually the stuff he gets worked up about IRL

wait really?

Yeppity yep!

Mmmmk so my thought process is this from reading so far:

Sloonei takes suspicion for coming out Sloonei (guns a'blazin', that is) and for flip-flopping a lot. This thought crossed my mind as big fat WIFOM, but I'm thinking he's good and doing the civ thing right now. We don't have enough being said to not play around with words and cast suspicion in places for reaction gauges, so this appears more civ than bad. And it stands out.

sig is being weird and avoiding a lot of simple questions. Is there something else I'm missing? Or are people latching on to whatever weirdness they can get? I totally understand if so, but if that's all it is, I'm not inclined that way, either.

Lorab is, according to Jack, apparently acting like she does when she's bad? How so?

Ugh. Votes and decisions. It's amazing I'm able to play this game at all.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:25 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:24 pm sloonei tell me about lorab

She's done nothing that looks explicitly town, hasn't really given any reads. In the absence of stronger suspects, I'm kind of defaulting to her.

Ah, this answers some of my last question.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:28 pm Scotty's the one who said present LoRab is like her scum self, not Jack. I posted the link but didn't actually study it for comparison.

Oops, thanks for the correction!

Marmot, why did you vote Wilgy?

Fuck it. sig's all over the place. I'm re-reading interactions between him and Sloonei, and he's floundering like crazy. He might be weird, but not usually floundery. I want to have more time to look at the Lorab comparison before I make an uninformed vote in her direction. Pulling the trigger and vote sig. (Did I do that right? Friggin' tags.)

I'll be happy to be more consensus-y if needed, because spreading the vote is bad, but the other votes are not where I want to be as much.

Argh, let's try that again. vote sig aubergine and whatnot.

Hmm. If baddies are split randomly, that means their thread support is split randomly, too. That must be...interesting.

This game is a mindfuck. (Sorry, I've said "fuck" like fourteen times today already. I'll stop.)

The plot thickens.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:33 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:41 pm Hmm. If baddies are split randomly, that means their thread support is split randomly, too. That must be...interesting.

This game is a mindfuck. (Sorry, I've said "fuck" like fourteen times today already. I'll stop.)

You're a mindfuck.

A damned good one, at that

Sorry y’all - been busy yesterday and today (and also lazy - a choice combination). I’m gonna eat something and then catch up and whatnot.

Gonna comment while I read. Sorry if I post preemptively and someone has already said it on a subsequent page.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:31 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:00 pm
but why was it so frustrating? what was the actual source of frustration for you? was anyone expecting sig or anyone to say whether they'd written a haiku

Um, yes? That was exactly what I expected when I asked "Anyone else willing to make that claim?"

what kind of person would have the forethought to lie about doing a haiku but not have the forethought to have just done a haiku when they signed up in the first place? I also don't necessarily think a civ who hadn't done a haiku would have a good reason to tell the truth about it?

I don't think "forethought" comes into it. We weren't told that haiku gave the lynch-immunity advantage before the game, so if somebody didn't send one in, they could easily have an "oh shit" moment.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:34 pm Hilarious thoughts while I'm reading this (mostly unhelping mudslinging) thread (meaning no offense - it's just mafia as usual):

What if...NO ONE was bad in our tribe? Perish the thought. But it would be funny.

What possible town benefit is there to bringing this up? At best, it's conjecture; at worst, it's planting a seed of doubt that encourages us not to vote, giving baddies a free day.

Mostly my own conjecture, since I like to just post my thoughts. I've really been bothered by the thought, though. Well, more bothered by the possibility of a very small number of mafia in this game. I'm seriously traumatized by last year's GoC and getting super mad IRL about it, which I don't want again, ever. But sure, perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned it. My intention was not to prevent baddie hunting - it was to post my now-thoughts, which I don't get a chance to do very often.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:31 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:12 pm To be fair, this is actually the stuff he gets worked up about IRL

She's not wrong, you know :P Also, in your linki roundup of people, you didn't mention a leading suspect: me. What do you think of me anyway, old sport?

I think you're good. I think your getting worked up over people accusing you Day 1 (the usual) makes you look good (or the frustration is genuine). And your suspicion of me makes you look even better, because you're actually reading into my posts and trying to pull something out of it, which is a good civ look IMO. You're not correct in your suspicion, but I like your hunting.

Perhaps inconsistent, but I also appreciate Marmot's defense of me in the last two pages (I read the thread...a bit strangely. Last, first, and then the middle). I'm usually fairly suspicious when someone buddies up to me like he's been doing (and perhaps I should be more so), but I get good vibes. Let's see if that changes as I continue to catch up.

Oooh, hey, there's people! Hi! I'm here! I mean, I'm here while I wait for the pizza to cool enough to eat it. I'm not a hipster or anything.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:54 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:10 pm I don't disagree that comparisons can be drawn to LoRab in this game and Fiddler, but I would hesitate to pounce on them. There has been next to no consensus in this thread and very little in the way of strong reads from anyone. LoRab probably stands out as being the most off the radar, though, and that worries me some. She's provided reasons for this which make her absence understandable, but do not tell me anything about her alignment.

In a sort of answer to your question, Scotty, I have no reason to town read LoRab. I'd consider voting for her today. I'm not eager to settle on her for being the easiest target.

There are no easy targets because we’ve learned nothing from our side aside from ninja having a mason and my old insanifying role.

If we ever want to lynch someone we will need more votes than the other tribe, which means more consensus. I’d still treat this as a D1. I hate D1s but someone should go, cause someone be killing and I’m pissed

LoRab is the easy target. She's the player who's been in the background without contributing a whole lot and with no outlandish behavior. That's an easy target regardless of how much "information" we have to go off of.

Why is it so important to you that this tribe is responsible for the lynch?

I hate to continue answering with another question but...why isn’t it important? Obviously someone is killing so it’s not like we’re all goats here

We can exchange answers of why or why not. I asked you why it's important first.

So far we've had two nightkills and both victims were members of this tribe. There's a few possibilities here: maybe the mafia member performing the kill needs to target a player in their own tribe. This would mean the designated killer(s) on Nights 1 & 2 is here with us. This could be one person or multiple people. If there is an individual role as the designated killer, that person is here. If it is required that the mafia team rotate killers and that they must target their own tribe, then at least two baddies are here.

If the mafia team can target anybody with their nightkill regardless of tribal affiliation, then they could be picking on us as a red herring. Perhaps the other tribe is stacked with baddies, and they're focusing on us for WIFOM. Or our tribe is stacked. Or...

In terms of lynch viability, we have not been successful at producing any strong reads thus far. It seems the other tribe is doing a better job at bringing up concensus. If they're stacked with baddies, that's bad for us. If we're stacked with baddies, it's better that they lynch. If we're even, I don't hate deferring to the other tribe if we have another limp day.

Oh geez. I didn't even consider these possibilities. That makes everything hella more confusing. Interesting, sure, but good god what the hell

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:14 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:34 pm Perhaps inconsistent, but I also appreciate Marmot's defense of me in the last two pages (I read the thread...a bit strangely. Last, first, and then the middle). I'm usually fairly suspicious when someone buddies up to me like he's been doing (and perhaps I should be more so), but I get good vibes. Let's see if that changes as I continue to catch up.

You spoke too soon. I grouped you with Scotty, the guy I'm voting for.

Welp, never mind. Told ya I'd probably comment on something that happens later. Back to reading.

Mmmmk now I see the Lorab suspicion for not settling on anyone. Sure, we've been a relatively quiet thread, but having no reads? Nah. That's way too noncommittal. On the list of possibilities. I care not for the claims of it being "too easy," because quiet and loud people are all "too easy."

Almost done reading. So close. Then I can nap.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:40 pm I'm still feeling Boomslang frankly.

He used sig's comment about being 70% sure he submitted a haiku as basis for a vote. But frankly I don't see it in the same light he does at all. It looks more like a lazy civ than a lying baddie. I mean, if bad it would be to his advantage to just say, "I submitted a haiku" and hopefully avoid a lynch because of it. If he was civ, sure he could go doublecheck to make sure he sent it. I just can't see a baddie just lying in such a weird way. It looks more like sig being sig.

I'm also reading Kyle as Civ for the record, his questions are good and insightful and strike me as sincere.

The other person I am feeling baddie vibes from right now is Wilgy. He looks like Wilgy in Mountain mafia. In that game I felt like, whoa, Wilgy is playing it straight, no big schtick, this is weird. And I said so in thread and I got poo pooed. Oh I don't want to vote for Wilgy because he's contributing without a big schtick. So I dismissed it and thought that maybe I was just off base. Guess who was bad? Wilgy. And I am seeing Wilgy playing a straight game again. I could easily put a vote there today too. In fact I think I will VOTE DrWilgy aubergine.

I don't like the first "suspicion" because it's doing exactly what it accuses Booms of doing - latching on to a small thing for suspicion. I do, however, like her looking at Wilgy, and not ignoring big pings from her gut/past experience. So that's somewhere in the middle.

And...wow. There really are a lot of people who haven't talked today (or talked hardly at all), and two of them have votes and pretty significant suspicion (sig and Wilgy, as indicated by Marmot's tagged post). I doubt there are that many silenced. I know some people are busy, but this number of people being so quiet makes me feel less bad about voting someone who's not responding. Again, I'm not going to have too many qualms about what's too "easy" at this point in the game because of this. I won't be around for the end of the day (and I really REALLY want that nap, like now). I'm good with Lorab most, followed by sig, and followed slightly by Spacedaisy and Wilgy (mostly because they conflict with one another, but then again, might be a big pot of WIFOM).

Okay I'm starting to not make sense, which means I need sleep. Let's go again for vote sig for all the aubergines. I'll check back, hopefully. I'm really vacillating something awful between him and Lorab. (I literally just flipped their names in the vote like twice in that post, is how bad I'm flip-flopping.)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:25 pm I just had one of those horrifying "what if everyone is a baddie except me and they are all anonymous in their BTSC trying to hunt me down" type of thoughts.

No silencer N1. Bloop dies. Silencer N2 and they target me... seems straightforward to me, but that makes me doubt myself. I also dont have much of an opinion of bloop 2 which tosses an interrobang above my head.

Errrrrr wait, you think I might be bad but then don’t have an opinion about me, literally like two posts later? That’s a bit...incongruous.

To answer Sloonei’s question, I think Wilgy is throwing poop to see where it sticks. It was a rather short time between suspecting me and then saying he doesn’t know about me, so either he’s lying or really doesn’t know what he wants to say. THIS, my friends, is the definition of floundering. I'm leaning towards the lying at this point, about suspecting me and possibly about being silenced, which goes with my speculation Day 3 that there were too many people being quiet for it to be a silencing sort of deal. *throws gauntlet*

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:02 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:25 pm I just had one of those horrifying "what if everyone is a baddie except me and they are all anonymous in their BTSC trying to hunt me down" type of thoughts.

No silencer N1. Bloop dies. Silencer N2 and they target me... seems straightforward to me, but that makes me doubt myself. I also dont have much of an opinion of bloop 2 which tosses an interrobang above my head.

Errrrrr wait, you think I might be bad but then don’t have an opinion about me, literally like two posts later? That’s a bit...incongruous.

To answer Sloonei’s question, I think Wilgy is throwing poop to see where it sticks. It was a rather short time between suspecting me and then saying he doesn’t know about me, so either he’s lying or really doesn’t know what he wants to say. THIS, my friends, is the definition of floundering. I'm leaning towards the lying at this point, about suspecting me and possibly about being silenced, which goes with my speculation Day 3 that there were too many people being quiet for it to be a silencing sort of deal. *throws gauntlet*

wilgy already addressed this a few posts up and I think his explanation looks fine. He suspects you on the premise that you could be the silencer, but he does not have a suspicion that is tied to anything you've done or said in the thread.

Are you the silencer?

I, alas, cannot answer that question, per the game’s rules. Argh.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:39 pm No one’s brought it up yet but the Nutella lynch switcheroo is an interesting detail IMO because it revealed that nijuu’s first role had contact with nutella on the other tribe. Here I thought one of you was the Proton that she had BTSC with. But here we learn that she had direct communication with the other tribe. Granted, she didn’t have any real time to say anything in regards to that since she died N1 and the role with her.

That she had contact with the other tribe makes me initially get suspicious that it is a mafia power. But the duo has negative and positive effects with it, which make me feel like her role before was indie at worst. I can’t see a mafia masonry with any sort of positive effects from their role. Does anyone know of any precedent for a mafia role like that to exist?

Whoa, thanks for bringing this up - I didn't even realize it was someone from the other tribe I was talking to for the VERY brief time I had. Freaky. And neato! Too bad someone KILLED me

That's kind of all I wanted to say while I catch up. Also, I'm not silenced. Also, thank you all for making it easy to catch up. I think I'd die with twice as many pages.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:48 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:46 pm Two thoughts from reading this last page:
-Either SpaceDaisy is good and is on to something with Wilgy
-Or Wilgy is good and Boom/SD could be a pair (unsubstantiated as of now, just a thought to catalogue for later)

I read wilgy and daisy both as good.

I'm a little wary of you right now. You are less perturbed by Wilgy's flip-flops on me and more dismissive of Daisy's claims about WIlgy's behavior than I'd imagine. Perhaps I've missed something - why are so willing to take Wilgy at his word so easily?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:53 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:25 pm I just had one of those horrifying "what if everyone is a baddie except me and they are all anonymous in their BTSC trying to hunt me down" type of thoughts.

No silencer N1. Bloop dies. Silencer N2 and they target me... seems straightforward to me, but that makes me doubt myself. I also dont have much of an opinion of bloop 2 which tosses an interrobang above my head.

Errrrrr wait, you think I might be bad but then don’t have an opinion about me, literally like two posts later? That’s a bit...incongruous.

To answer Sloonei’s question, I think Wilgy is throwing poop to see where it sticks. It was a rather short time between suspecting me and then saying he doesn’t know about me, so either he’s lying or really doesn’t know what he wants to say. THIS, my friends, is the definition of floundering. I'm leaning towards the lying at this point, about suspecting me and possibly about being silenced, which goes with my speculation Day 3 that there were too many people being quiet for it to be a silencing sort of deal. *throws gauntlet*

I think Sloonbread put it well. I have no suspicion of you for what you've stated this game. Rather the fact you were received a new role and I was silenced immediately after

Same thing I asked scotty. What would I gain from a fake silencing?

But you were gung-ho to put me very quickly on that list:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:17 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:18 pmIn regards to LoRab, I don't know. Before yesterday I held her in a bucket of players that seemed floaty. She was supposed to receive my vote, but now I think she's one of my top civ reads.

help me to understand why

Nah, you figure it out.


In regards to the people who bugged me about JoH while I was silenced. I feel the worst about Scotty. Followed by Boomslanf and Marmot.

I've been thinking about life and the moral quandaries of the universe and I've hit a point where I'm no longer suspicious of Sloonbread. However, what makes you think that the silencer is a civilian role? Also when would a civilian opt to silence?

I'm also starting to think Bloops 2 may be bad.

Hmmm... Baddies are Scotty, Daisy, and Bloops... and Kyle... fuck you Kyle, you beautiful Frito pie.

Until you were called on it. I get that you suspected me not on my posts, but on a vague suspicion of silencing. What I'm concerned about is how quickly you come to that conclusion, put me on a list, then back off immediately with an "interrobang" when asked about it. Like you were waiting to see if it would gain traction, but it didn't. That bothers me a lot. My one qualm with that suspicion is just HOW quickly you backed off - you didn't wait terribly long to let it simmer if you were actually doing this (like less than 20 minutes), so that's something in your favor, I suppose.

As for your question about what you would gain from a fake silencing (and this may have already been said), you gain the ability to come out swinging against your "silencer" like you did. There is no way for someone to defend against being accused of being a silencer in a completely closed setup, so you give out suspicion without direct repercussion.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:32 pm Sorry, that was not intended as a serious question. what I'm actually trying to get at is niju's thoughts on the silencer, or wilgy's claim of being silenced.

But you literally asked me if I was the silencer. You already asked me my thoughts in a previous post, which I responded to beforehand. Perhaps I did not get the joke, but perhaps you were also trying to ask me a question I couldn't respond to without looking like I was floundering for an answer. I don't like it. This is why I'm looking at both you and Wilgy right now, perhaps with a lovely new homemade aluminum hat.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:58 pm Marmot's post don't look bad so far, but there seems to be a large amount of fluff, ironic I know. :P
When he does post content it seems to be coming from a civ mindset and he's attempting to make the thread more active.

What does everyone think of Kyle's vote? He avoided both wagons by going for Boomslang, which I could see mafia trying to do if they knew we were both civs to avoid suspicion.


Wilgy seems like his normal self, which I'm liking right now.
Jack is a bit under the radar, but that seems to be because he's busy in RL.

I agree with Scotty on Daisy, but I'd need to buckle down and ISO her for real.
Also people commenting on my posting style, I do want to point out that this is the longest I've survived in a GOC so blah.

@Sloonie does it seem like the other thread has caught mafia yet?

Well get yourself a bowl of 3 chips and almost sit down because she has less than 20 posts

Okay I have to do actual work now, at work. I'll be back, because I see a Marmot has asked me a question, according to my notifications Oh, and voting. That thing.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:23 pm Blooper I was just being facetious with my question about you being the silencer. It's a question you literally can't answer, so I asked it playfully. I didn't expect you to respond to it in any serious manner. It was a joke, strike it from the record.

Fair enough. Tone is hard to read, as we all know. (I'm also tired from work and I'm still friggin' here, trying to do all the things.)

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:04 pm @Sloonei @nijuukyugou

You each voted sig the past two days (each resulting in him having the most votes in our thread) but are voting elsewhere today. What are your current thoughts on sig?

Well, I haven't actually voted yet, so that's jumping the gun a bit! And his recent posts are attempting to stay on topic? Or attempting to attempt to look like they're staying on topic? I laughed at the whole "re-read Spacedaisy" thing, but I also thought it was reminiscent of when I've been bad before and strapped for time, but want to look like I'm paying attention, so I'll make a post about everything and nothing at once (minus the marmots). And that last vote for Wilgy seems out of the blue, unless I've missed something in the last two pages (seriously - I haven't finished reading them, so scratch that if I'm totally wrong). So I'd actually be okay voting there again. But I'm also wanting to go Wilgy, and that looks more viable at this point.

But let's make people mad for about half an hour. Let's (the royal we) vote sig again. And probably change to Wilgy.

No okay seriously I need to leave my classroom. Get me out of here. Make me stop making rubrics! Oh god I'm drowning in rubrics hellllllllllp

Nah, just kidding. I'm aubergine'ing Wilgy.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:54 pm Daisy: What are your current thoughts on this?

(quote clipped for the relevant part)

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:59 pmGiven that fact, two baddies who are in separate tribes make perfect sense. Again, it helps them to make up for their disadvantage. Additionally, Blooper's response to Scotty pointing out that her first role had BTSC with someone from the other tribe seemed very odd to me. If you were given BTSC with someone else, what is the first thing you would want to know?

Who are you?

Or, what thread are you in/what information do you have that I might not have?

The fact she said she didn't even know she was talking to someone from the other thread is really odd to me. How?

Did Blooper ever respond?

No, because I just saw this (I think I skipped a chunk or two of a page). To answer as best I can, I had one day of being able to talk to the person (who I now know was nutella), and I was SUPER busy that Day period (as my parents were in town) before I lost the role. Like, I think I had time to check in with her twice, and that was combined with reading the thread and actually, y'know, responding to stuff. I didn't expect to get friggin' NK'ed Night 1. Like, I was really shocked when I saw the post. And sad, because I really didn't have time to even use the BTSC. That's my best explanation for why I didn't ask the questions that you would've liked I'd have asked.

Oh wow, that sounded really salty! I don’t mean it that way - just been running around at work like a crazy person, and I was slightly annoyed with your perfectly valid question (no sarcasm - it really is a valid observation and question). My apologies!

Boomslang wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:55 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:11 pm Look, you can go through my posts I posted a whole thing linking to his ISOs from games where he was bad, good and even one 3P game. So I have already given my thoughts on this, I don't have time to repeat myself. Clearly I do think he is playing to his Baddie meta.

As to the first point, you don't get what I'm saying. My point is my previous suspicion is negated by the fact I feel he pretty much flipped a civ role. And I have nothing since then that leads me to suspect him for being bad. So why would I vote for him? Just because he is in a second role? Is that what you are suggesting? If so I disagree. To borrow a sentiment from 3J, I am not playing against the hosts, I am playing against the mafia. I will cast my vote against those I suspect, not against those that I think the theories on setup could possibly make bad. That is not a solid reason to do anything IMO. I am not voting for Scotty because I don't suspect Scotty's play like I do Marmot's. In fact, I have for the most part felt like Scotty was giving me civ vibes.

Do you think Juliets and Golden are making alignments clear based on the first role only?

Isn't Scotty's first role bad?

If you're going to say that INH is good because of his first role, then you have to say Scott is bad because of his first role.

You're the one playing against the mods. You're basically saying "I don't think Golden and Juliets would give this power to a baddie."

I'm playing against INH and Scotty. I'm ignoring their powers and voting based on what they're saying.

I feel like ignoring revealed information is a dangerous approach. While I don't think the mods are necessarily going to give away alignments based on roles, I agree with Spacedaisy and Scotty that those roles can give valuable information and inform alignment probabilities. I think Daisy's analysis of INH is spot-on, and I won't be putting a vote on him today.

I also feel like discounting the value of first-lynch role reveals is a way for you to bolster your "lynch someone fully to see where it goes" approach, with which I've already expressed my disapproval. It's easy to paint today as a Day One if you don't think those first role flips are valuable.

This. I'll post more later when I'm not about to have a slew of kids rush into my room, but was gonna post something similar that expressed my distaste for lynching for the sake of getting a lynch, which is how I'm reading these recent guns for those of us with one measly life left.

Hey, Daisy - you said you posted preemptively about me, which is cool (I do it all the time!). Anything changed since then?