The Syndicate

L'chaim / game on

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:12 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:11 pm okay so you think a 48 hour long game with teens who kept being terrible dicks to each other is going to be indicative of how I play in a real game as mafia?

one game isn't enough for real tell correlation, famous poker player sneezes the first time they roll a full house you don't just assume that they have a full house the second time they sneeze
So you recognize the parallel then?

boom rekt

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:01 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:55 pm This section is sketchy, Kyle, it reads like it's written by someone with a mafia alignment. "you've never even seen me play as mafia before" implies you're mafia now, and the statement that there's "not enough to build correlation from" implies that there could be enough at some point, but if you're Civ, then the idea would be that "correlation is impossible because I'm not bad."
This section is sketchy, Long Con. You've shoved words into Kylemii's face and said "These are the civilian words. You didn't say the civilian words." as if there aren't multiple possible examples of a civilian response to my poop.

So it was poop? And you think LC ate it?

I ate it, but I puked it back up.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pm So it was poop? And you think LC ate it?
It was poop. Kyle is a quality Mafia player and isn't likely to have some glowing beacon of a tell which shows itself in the first three posts. LC may have eaten it. I am investigating his teeth presently.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pmI ate it, but I puked it back up.
What'd you mean when you said "rekt", presumably about Kyle?

I meant that it looked like you had caught him red-handed in the "So you recognize the parallel, then?" comment since it did sound from his wording like he was admitting something was similar about his style in that game and he was believing/afraid that you had in fact noticed a tell. I guess I had a similar thought as LC, that Kyle was reacting to your "poop" in a way that a baddie afraid he was actually getting caught might act, but I don't really think that anymore after his extended response to it.

linki: intriguing. again, I found the initial hostility suspicious, but his dedication toward clearing his name and holding Jay accountable has been reading more like town Kyle imo.

It's too bad we don't have the poop emoji here. I'm ready for [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] to be all over that.

Kyle, I strongly disagree with your interpretation of FZ. I think she gave a completely original reason to suspect you which was unrelated to Jay's thing.

Yeah I don't get what Epi is saying here. Like, it's reasonable to be cautious of the possibility of Jay/Sloonei w/w, because that would be fucking scary, but it really doesn't make sense for him to assume that this is the case based on the way they have interacted so far (which is pretty much how they always interact as civs).

Probably similarly.

I just made a post of only adverbs in response to Epi.

OK, I've been on Jay's side pretty much throughout this Epi bullshit, and the comparisons to RvB and WTNV, as well as Epi apparently being afraid to lynch Jay, seal it for me. I'm voting for Epi. There's a sea of wifom here but basically I don't think he should be acting like this even if it's to provoke reactions such as mine.

Ok first of all, no Epi it was not a stretch to say I was on Jay's side the whole time because I thought your accusation was bs right off the bat and because I had just caught up on 5 pages since my previous post and agreed with Jay throughout that reading.

Epi is full of shit and I will stand by that. I think he looks very bad because of it, but I could be wrong because I don't have a good handle on why he might act like this regardless of his alignment. I could be persuaded to vote for someone else (save Jay and Kyle) but for now Epi is my top suspect and I don't see what's opportunistic about that.

Bear with me here as I'm on my slow af phone and will take a bit to respond to everything. But iirc Epi was bad in wtnv and the post speedchuck linked (Epi re: Tony) felt in some ways reminiscent of how he's been treating Jay. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and it's very different but that's the comparison I see (and rvb is stronger).

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:21 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:02 pm Agreed here. I think Nutella is being opportunistic.
What sold you on this one?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:53 pm 1. OK, I've been on Jay's side pretty much throughout this Epi bullshit, 2. and the comparisons to RvB and WTNV, as well as Epi apparently being afraid to lynch Jay, seal it for me. 3. I'm voting for Epi. 4. There's a sea of wifom here but basically 5. I don't think he should be acting like this even if it's to provoke reactions such as mine.
1. Citation needed. Nutella hasn't commented anything committal to the subject until now, when it's winding down
2. citing arguments that aren't hers to pad her post, ignoring any counters. Also, WTNV was an argument for town epi. Nut doesn't care.
3. The vote.
4. Disclaimer for when she's wrong
5. Very weakly-stated opinion that is not phrased as being alignment related and puts the blame on Epi for her voting him.

1. Answered. Was catching up and have been very committed to the stance that Epi is full of shit.
2. Answered. Must have interpreted the argument wrong.
4. I mean, sure, that's one way to put it. He could be civ, but I have no good reason to think so.
5. Basically what I meant by this was that if Epi meant the Jay/Sloonei w/w idea as another "poop" to get reactions, then he's taken it too far and it is not helpful anymore for him to play in the weird coy way that he has been.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:05 pm Ok first of all, no Epi it was not a stretch to say I was on Jay's side the whole time because I thought your accusation was bs right off the bat and because I had just caught up on 5 pages since my previous post and agreed with Jay throughout that reading.

Epi is full of shit and I will stand by that. I think he looks very bad because of it, but I could be wrong because I don't have a good handle on why he might act like this regardless of his alignment. I could be persuaded to vote for someone else (save Jay and Kyle) but for now Epi is my top suspect and I don't see what's opportunistic about that.
3J's second post was full of shit.

Why doesn't he look very bad because of it?

Because he did it first, because he has since explained, and because he's JJJ. Any more questions?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:19 pm 5. Basically what I meant by this was that if Epi meant the Jay/Sloonei w/w idea as another "poop" to get reactions, then he's taken it too far and it is not helpful anymore for him to play in the weird coy way that he has been.
unhelpful =/= scummy.
If Epi flips town, you're setting yourself up here to say "he took it too far" "It's his fault" "he should have played better"

linki: "did it first"
So the first person to fling bricks is allowed. The rest of us can't?

Okay. So if you lynch me you better be prepared to say "tsk tsk, she should have played better." Deal?

And... kind of. Depends on the situation, but I felt like Epi was taking advantage of the discussion of Jay's poop to toss in his own brazen accusation in hopes of getting lauded as an insightful town leader trying to stimulate discussion. No offense but Jay really has the comparative advantage in that business.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:20 pm Speed
Mac
Wilgy
Epi
JJJ
Marmot
Sloonei
Dyslexicon
LC
Kylemii
FZ
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Lorab
Nutella

My rainbow

This is very green-heavy.

Oh, weird. K.

My point still stands though. [mention]speedchuck[/mention] green is not a creative color

Fair enough, I have been on MP's side in the civ-reads debate in the past. I'm just surprised to see more green than yellow at this point... linki ok dude

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:08 pm Hey nutella is it still suspicious now that you know it's speedchuck's list or were you just pretending you found it suspicious so you can post an emoji at me?

Are you even reading the thread my dude

But also why did you copy speed's rainbow I don't get the joke

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:08 pm Hey nutella is it still suspicious now that you know it's speedchuck's list or were you just pretending you found it suspicious so you can post an emoji at me?
Are you even reading the thread my dude
That's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

By the way yes. You went from suspish emoji at me when you thought it was my list to questioning his creativity when it's his.

ok "green is not a creative color" was just a silly reference to a youtube video. I felt the same way about the list having that much green regardless of who made it, and I must have glossed over it when speed posted it originally.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:08 pm Hey nutella is it still suspicious now that you know it's speedchuck's list or were you just pretending you found it suspicious so you can post an emoji at me?
Are you even reading the thread my dude
That's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

By the way yes. You went from suspish emoji at me when you thought it was my list to questioning his creativity when it's his.
ok "green is not a creative color" was just a silly reference to a youtube video. I felt the same way about the list having that much green regardless of who made it, and I must have glossed over it when speed posted it originally.
Does this mean then that your suspicion on this matter is for speedchuck and not for MacDougall?

Sure, but I have already discussed this with speedchuck and more or less resolved the matter. Meanwhile my question about Mac copying the list still stands.

I am not sure how I feel about either of them at the moment.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:21 pm New tactic.

I am going to divide the player list into 3. Group 1 are the players who have provided me with ample opportunity to formulate a read. Group 2 have given some. Group 3 might as well be absent for the amount of insight I am able to glean. I will do a rainbow list per group.

Group 1 - Give the most credence to these reads.

Speed
Epi
JJJ
Sloonei
Kylemii

Group 2 - Give some credence to these reads.

FZ
Dyslexicon
Nutella

Group 3 - Pay no mind sunshine.

LC
Lorab
Novaselinenever
Dave
Daisy
Wilgy
Marmot

Outcomes - For me personally, a Kylemii lynch is most suitable for a variety of reasons. As far as the players that I am reading negatively he has given me the most the work with, which should lend credibility to the read. Furthermore the removal of a player from group 1 would offer more impact on the overall picture of my reads than someone from either group 2 or group 3.

I would also would be reasonably happy with a Nutella lynch. I wouldn't be upset by the lynch of anybody else aside from FZ and Speedchuck.

I like this method of organization.

Several of my reads are pretty much opposite from yours. I'm most curious as to why you are so confident about FZ. I got bad vibes from her.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:08 pm Hey nutella is it still suspicious now that you know it's speedchuck's list or were you just pretending you found it suspicious so you can post an emoji at me?
Are you even reading the thread my dude
That's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

By the way yes. You went from suspish emoji at me when you thought it was my list to questioning his creativity when it's his.
ok "green is not a creative color" was just a silly reference to a youtube video. I felt the same way about the list having that much green regardless of who made it, and I must have glossed over it when speed posted it originally.
Does this mean then that your suspicion on this matter is for speedchuck and not for MacDougall?
Sure, but I have already discussed this with speedchuck and more or less resolved the matter. Meanwhile my question about Mac copying the list still stands.

I am not sure how I feel about either of them at the moment.
So when I asked the question the reply is "are you even reading the thread" but when he asks it you provide this level of insight? Interesting.

It was phrased differently. Your question came right after I had realized it was speed's list and I literally said the words "my point still stands" and asked speed about it. After that discussion, Jay asked whether that meant I suspected speed and not you, and I responded that the original point applied to speedchuck but I might also suspect you for another reason.

FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:06 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:56 pm Daisy, Dave, Dizzy, FZ, NVN, I have almost no impression at all of any of these players yet
I'm here, I'm trying to catch up but it's not working for me very well.
I'm on page 8 so things can change. At the moment, I find myself agreeing with JJJ on Epi. Something there feels not genuine. I haven't played for a while, but I think civ Epi is more careful, and what he's doing now, is acting like he's going full force after what he believes. Sloonei said he wouldn't be this blunt on day 1, but if people are going to say that, then Epi has no problem acting just like that.

Kyle is really defending himself and making sense, so I do feel better about him. That being said, I like to trust my initial instincts, and even though no one seemed to agree with me, the post I talked about did feel to me like a frustrated baddie who doesn't like the civvies' powers.

This post is the main source of my bad FZ vibes. Not sure if I can really put my finger on it but her catch-up summary/thoughts on Epi and Kyle sound less than genuine. To be fair I haven't played with her in a while so I don't have a good meta reference. Regardless, I'm curious why Mac seems to be near 100% confident that she's town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pm

That's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

By the way yes. You went from suspish emoji at me when you thought it was my list to questioning his creativity when it's his.
ok "green is not a creative color" was just a silly reference to a youtube video. I felt the same way about the list having that much green regardless of who made it, and I must have glossed over it when speed posted it originally.
Does this mean then that your suspicion on this matter is for speedchuck and not for MacDougall?
Sure, but I have already discussed this with speedchuck and more or less resolved the matter. Meanwhile my question about Mac copying the list still stands.

I am not sure how I feel about either of them at the moment.
So when I asked the question the reply is "are you even reading the thread" but when he asks it you provide this level of insight? Interesting.
It was phrased differently. Your question came right after I had realized it was speed's list and I literally said the words "my point still stands" and asked speed about it. After that discussion, Jay asked whether that meant I suspected speed and not you, and I responded that the original point applied to speedchuck but I might also suspect you for another reason.
Fair enough but you came at me relatively gung-ho and you are not coming at him with anything that looks like force to me. That to me looks like you weren't genuine about being suspect of me for the list but just trying to frame a case against me for the purpose of looking like you're trying.

If that's the case though, the question would be why you didn't flip your suspicion to speedchuck with the same level of enthusiasm.

I don't really understand why you're reading a single emoticon as "coming at you gung-ho" or "enthusiasm." I think maybe you are disproportionately reading into it. It's barely a "suspicion" at all -- yes, I used the suspish emoticon, but.. well I don't want to get into an extended discussion of the contextual implications of emoji semantics, but I'm not sure how you're figuring that I was "coming at you gung-ho" based on a single use of an emoticon and no other basis. I posed the original question to speedchuck, and meanwhile was left to wonder why you copied his list.

Please show me where I demonstrated an enthusiastic suspicion of you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:54 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm Mac, why are you so trusting of Epig?

That's better.
I forgot how helpful you could be
This is the word that makes FZ town.

Huh. I... I guess I'll take your word for it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm I'm going to lodge a veto request of the Epignosis lynch on the following grounds;

a) The primary case against him as been made by JJJ who is the most followable player in the game
b) I don't agree with his arguments
c) If JJJ is Mafia then losing Epignosis's tendency to keep him accountable by revelling in being contrarian feels tantamount to just losing the game

I am voting for Epi for reasons that I have reached on my own. Granted, these reasons are related to the JJJ stuff, but I drew my own conclusions, I'm not just following JJJ. I have not discounted the possibility that JJJ is bad. If Epi dies and flips town, I promise I will scrutinize JJJ with every fiber of my scrutinizin'.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:00 pm Oh, and JJJ and Nut are mutually defending each other. Don't know if that information will ever be relevant. Just an observation.

This is both true and untrue. Suck it, Law of Excluded Middle.

So.... why do people think Kyle is bad?

Wilgy, why are all your ideas so bad?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:01 pm Do people actually read all the roles before games even start?
I read DrWilgy's role. :3
Marmot/Wilgy WIFOM parade, sequel to the smash hit Nanman of ROTTK?

Classic.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:28 pm Wilgy and Marmot are totally cruising making jokes while a game is going on around them. Let's lynch one of them.

I think wilgy is town. He's throwing around zany/original shit, playing the ol' fast-and-loose game, things like suggesting lynching Dizzy right after a bunch of people named dizzy as a town read. Then again, he is the king of wifom mountain, so

Marmot could be bad.

Marmot

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:28 pm Wilgy and Marmot are totally cruising making jokes while a game is going on around them. Let's lynch one of them.
I think wilgy is town. He's throwing around zany/original shit, playing the ol' fast-and-loose game, things like suggesting lynching Dizzy right after a bunch of people named dizzy as a town read. Then again, he is the king of wifom mountain, so

Marmot could be bad.
I never get civilian credit for any of the zany shit I say.

In other games, sure you have. Not in this one.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:03 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:50 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:49 pm I changed my mind, Sloonei your case is really bad. It's tunnel-y and it's not even internally consistent. It's build on hypotheticals ways that you think a town Kyle should react to situations that don't apply in reality because I don't fit into your cookie cutter viewpoint of what I should be like.
Is my effort irrelevant now?
Yeah. It's not a good case, it's just a long case.

and like you said it would be easy for a mafia Sloonei to invest super hard in this tunnel thing you're doing for town credit. After I died you could just be like "well I was really sure about it, didn't you see my 18 paragraph essay"
Does this make me a scum read?
I would absolutely vote for you right now if everyone else was down to. I think your case is stretchy and opportunistic and I don't see you doing all this as a civ. You've done nothing but tunnel me all day. I don't think you've given reads on anyone but me or Epignosis.

...you...you do remember his tunnel on cbob in mountains, right? I think the same thing is happening here. Sloonei is town but wrong.

actually sloonei is sounding more and more full of shit the longer this goes on tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:22 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:21 pm actually sloonei is sounding more and more full of shit the longer this goes on tbh
No I'm not.
Yeah you really aren't ... Either nutella is trying to not understand you or tired or something because your case is far more compelling than anything else I've seen spat up today.

I'm not trying to not understand his case. I understand his case perfectly. I don't agree with it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:55 pm The door was always there. All he needed to do was ask a question or two and it would have been opened.

Are you not alarmed that a player spent a great deal of time refuting a claim without any substance to it?
Not really, no. Frankly I'd have been more suspicious if Kyle had been Mr. Cool and Collected in response to me dropping a "tell" bomb on him in the middle of Day 0. Consider my own reactions to the Epignosis version of the poop, as you've assigned it -- is there a huge difference between my treatment of that and Kyle's treatment of mine?
No, there isn't. I was suspicious of you for a little bit during that episode as well. But I feel good about your posts outside of that. I don't feel particularly good about anything Kyle has done in this game.
Okay, so you despite your reservations you can envision a universe where a civilian JJJ reacts that way.

Does this not mean by extension that a civilian Kyle can react that way?
Absolutely. In townie kyle universe, he was flustered by being made the target of the game's first suspicion and started denying it. But I find the universe in which Kyle is mafia to be more likely. I still would expect town kyle to make more of an effort to understand your prod.
You've made an effort to analyze the contents of Epignosis' feces.

This exchange is the main bullshit. Jay calls him out on an inconsistency, he responds with a handwavey "I just think Kyle is more likely bad"

I would rather lynch Marmot than Kyle or Wilgy, but I would rather lynch Sloonei than Marmot. Kyle said he'd vote for Sloonei; if one other person does I'd move there. Otherwise I'm staying on Epi.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:04 pm I would rather lynch Marmot than Kyle or Wilgy, but I would rather lynch Sloonei than Marmot. Kyle said he'd vote for Sloonei; if one other person does I'd move there. Otherwise I'm staying on Epi.
You drew a comparison before to Sloonei's failed tunnel on colonialbob from Mountain Mafia. Do you perceive a difference in this tunnel?

I didn't at first, but I think his responses to Kyle have become more and more stubborn and repetitive, and like I said I didn't like his response to your question either. Plus, his case on cbob in Mountains had a lot more actual content/justification/growth; here he has been restating the same ~3 reasons and waving aside Kyle's explanations. It was similar at first, but I think he's losing credibility.

I'm confused about the "lying" points but I think Sloonei may be misinterpreting what Kyle meant because there are a bunch of semantically confusing things going on there. I don't think Kyle would deliberately deny saying something/claim he'd said something else without some basis that was valid from his perspective. I think I can sort of see an interpretation that is not contradictory that perhaps Sloonei isn't getting but I'd have to study it a little more closely to be able to fully grasp it. Language is hard you guys

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] randomizing between the players in the running is a terrible idea and you know it. Either do your best to find a reason for one, or place your vote somewhere inconsequential. If you arbitrarily choose one of the candidates in a tight race I will probably assume you have bad intentions.

linki: oh ok you are giving a valid reason. Thanks

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:42 pm Sloonei doesn't care about the roof.

First time I've agreed with you all game.

Where the heck is LC anyway

Oh gross the light forum skin my eeyyyyyyeeesss

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:25 am There's a 0% chance the wagon on me is comprised exclusively of civilians.

That's... that's just not true. There is absolutely a nonzero chance of that. Maybe Ephraim can teach you chess and probability.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:28 am Epignosis gave me a pass because I'm a shitty Day 1 lynch.

"Because if I'm good, then that's an active, vocal, passionate mafia-hunter gone, one who didn't even get a real chance to catch somebody."

So instead we lynch Sloonei.

My clone.

Moved my vote.

Indeed. So many double standards. So many contradictions. This is mafia at its finest.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:30 am which I will do so shortly.

Your kid's teaching schedule is getting pretty full.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:31 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:28 am Epignosis gave me a pass because I'm a shitty Day 1 lynch.

"Because if I'm good, then that's an active, vocal, passionate mafia-hunter gone, one who didn't even get a real chance to catch somebody."

So instead we lynch Sloonei.

My clone.

Moved my vote.
Your clone.

Jesus.

Jesus is Jay's clone?

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