The Syndicate

Who's winning what bowl now? I wanna win a nice bowl of ice cream.

Fun post Colin.

I love and support all ice cream.

Love it. Toppings too.

And taro is the best flavor fight me.

[VOTE: g-man] aubergine That is bullshit and you know it

Mister "I-read-the-entire-dictionary" over here calling someone out for using a sense of a word that is literally in the dictionary. How much faker can it get??

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:36 pm [VOTE: g-man] aubergine That is bullshit and you know it

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:05 pm Mister "I-read-the-entire-dictionary" over here calling someone out for using a sense of a word that is literally in the dictionary. How much faker can it get??
LOL, I was busting his balls after all the over-analyzing he did at the beginning of A World Asunder. I was fishing for a reaction out of Sloonei but you gave me something even better to analyze.

So, would baddie nutella:

A) try to capitalize on the first person to throw shade for flimsy reasons in an attempt to start an early mislynch train?

B) attempt to buddy an oftentimes supertown Sloonei to get in his good graces while also setting him up to look bad if she were to flip mafia based on her swift rush to defend him?

C) both A and B?

Would civvie nutella:

A) be prone to such a swift overreaction to a fishing attempt (that didn’t even result in a vote) based on her background in linguistics?

B) have a cooler, more level-headed approach to Day 1?

Do you think I'm overreacting? I spotted what I determined to be a fake opinion and called it out. Turns out it was intentionally fake. So I wasn't entirely wrong, but I do tend to trust my first instincts and respond accordingly, then allow room to reevaluate.

And no, I'm not bad nor trying to buddy sloonei. I think he has made a decent entrance but I am not giving him any kind of pass.

When was the last time you saw me play with a "level-headed" approach lol

Would baddie g-man go fishing and then immediately compose a thorough-looking analysis of the first person to react? I could believe so.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:39 pm sprityo dropping a driveby self-vote.

Gross.

I don't think [mention]MafiaMenace[/mention] has checked in but has [mention]WaywardSon[/mention] explained his vote?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:33 pm My only regret is that I got scooped on the opportunity to fuss about someone's misuse of the word "literally."

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:41 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:25 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:20 pm I just drove straight through from Waco Texas to Cincinnati. I’m tired. I can’t look at the game until tomorrow, I apologize guys.
Lucky for you, literally nothing has happened yet.

lit·er·al·ly
/ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/
adverb
in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
"the driver took it literally when asked to go straight across the traffic circle"
synonyms: verbatim, word for word, line for line, letter for letter, to the letter
INFORMAL
used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.
"I was literally blown away by the response I got"

You’re either using the informal sense of the word or you’re lying. Either way, not a good look.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:36 pm [VOTE: g-man] aubergine That is bullshit and you know it

bull·shit
/ˈbo͝olˌSHit/
vulgar slang
noun
noun: bullshit

1.
stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.

verb
verb: bullshit; 3rd person present: bullshits; past tense: bullshitted; past participle: bullshitted; gerund or present participle: bullshitting

1.
talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
I'm struggling with this.

What part of the post is bullshit? Is it the quoting of the dictionary, the "either or statement," or G-Man's assessment of the latter?

From what I can tell, none of that can qualify as bullshit.

I mean, if I were a lie detector, which of those statements could I possibly check?

The last sentence. How is it "not a good look" if he is just using it informally?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm
The last sentence. How is it "not a good look" if he is just using it informally?
People are using the word "literally" to mean the exact opposite of what it means when we have plenty of other words in our vocabulary to serve as an intensifier. "Fucking" works well, I think.

And that's why it's a bad look. When people tell me their heads literally exploded, I look at them badly.

I don't give a shit about your fucking outdated prescriptivism. There's no reason G-man would have for that being a bad look (except that he was just making up an opinion to fish for reactions).

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:15 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:57 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm
The last sentence. How is it "not a good look" if he is just using it informally?
People are using the word "literally" to mean the exact opposite of what it means when we have plenty of other words in our vocabulary to serve as an intensifier. "Fucking" works well, I think.

And that's why it's a bad look. When people tell me their heads literally exploded, I look at them badly.
I don't give a shit about your fucking outdated prescriptivism. There's no reason G-man would have for that being a bad look (except that he was just making up an opinion to fish for reactions).
When everyone gets to decide what words mean and your ability to communicate is reduced to meaningless grunts and other utterances, you will then realize that guitar highlights erasure operating Mirror of Truth.

It's not arbitrary people understand it and communicate effectively so calm your fucking old ass tits

Go read a book about language change or you have to talk to me in Chaucer's English

Dude I love semicolons when I'm writing something formal but you can't pretend you didn't understand me there. And yes people understand from context when "literally" isn't literal.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:04 pm I don't think @MafiaMenace has checked in but has @WaywardSon explained his vote?
On MM? He's only one I have played with.

Is... is that your reason?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:42 pm Improper usage of the word "literally" is literally the point of that tendency. I won't say that it is a clever or interesting thing for people to do so, but to render *corrections* is to miss the social queues underlying the trend. The appeal is drawn from that inaccuracy: even when something is not a literal truth, proclaiming that it is a literal truth anyway adds emphasis and levity.
Nah. Nobody thinks about it that hard to make it a "point."

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:42 pmsprityo is bad. I'll see you gang tomorrow.
No he isn't. You are though.

What are you even talking about? It is absolutely used for emphasis and I don't understand how you can argue otherwise.

Anyway does someone have the stats on sprityo self-voting with alignment?

Yeah what Jay said. People don't meticulously plan natural speech. And in casual writing it is true to an extent as well. Also idk what your point about determinism is but I am all about free will as well as descriptivism so.. sure?

Anyway if your argument is that kids these days literally don't know the traditional definition of "literally" then I think you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:07 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:58 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:30 pm Let’s hope I don’t implode from playing two games at once because I’m a monkey brained fool.

Also Texas
Pre-emptive excuse for lack of participation. This man puts flavorful toppings on his ice cream.
Ice cream is a delicate thing that shouldn’t be blasphemies by toppings

The only acceptable one it a shake with oreos
i dunno about the self-vote, but I flung some poo flavored yogurt at sprityo and he responded with a too-casual joke that I didn’t like much.
i accidently voted instead of looking at votes so now i cant leave my vote on (host/non) now can I?

You accidentally voted for yourself?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:55 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:07 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:58 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:30 pm Let’s hope I don’t implode from playing two games at once because I’m a monkey brained fool.

Also Texas
Pre-emptive excuse for lack of participation. This man puts flavorful toppings on his ice cream.
Ice cream is a delicate thing that shouldn’t be blasphemies by toppings

The only acceptable one it a shake with oreos
i dunno about the self-vote, but I flung some poo flavored yogurt at sprityo and he responded with a too-casual joke that I didn’t like much.
i accidently voted instead of looking at votes so now i cant leave my vote on (host/non) now can I?
You accidentally voted for yourself?
no i voted host/non. that's what i just said

What

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:09 pm yknow what pal, ill give you a vote sloonei since voting for myself instead of the not allowed option is "gross"

Wait, I'm the one who said "gross"

Sprit you are confusing me right and left. But I'm not sure if your angry burst here is more indicative of your civ nature or your bad nature.

Also I don't think you ever responded to Sloonei's initial accusation that you were preemptively excusing low participation.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:10 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:09 pm yknow what pal, ill give you a vote sloonei since voting for myself instead of the not allowed option is "gross"
Wait, I'm the one who said "gross"
stupid fucking blue names

fuck you chocolate jar

im gonna peace out before i make a mountain of fucks

point still stands, sloonei votes me for bs, jay votes me for no reason, nutella says im gross

Wow ok

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:04 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:43 pm
@nutella - Pancake is skinhead lit obey utter damned tuners.
Equal obey monograms.

Hey take it to the bedroom you perverts.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:24 pm What do we all think of sprityo then? He’s the one person who’d done something actually worth talking about in a mafia context.

The one and only? I'd disagree with that assertion. You, G-Man, Jay, Epi, and myself have all produced game-relevant content.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:56 am sprityo is good.

Elohcin is bad. Her most recent post is a token "look involved" post. Asking the guy who merely checked in what his thoughts are is futile. [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

I thought her tagging onto G's post about me was rather unoriginal as well, but then she tends to be prejudiced against me.

Lol this vote spread

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:20 pm i ain't gonna be here for no deadline and it seems we're not consolidating any votes. i'm having a panic attack.

I recommend a glass of water.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:21 pm SMH grasping onto anything you can, I see.

Who/what is this in response to?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:10 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:21 pm SMH grasping onto anything you can, I see.
Who/what is this in response to?
The vote on me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:52 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:21 pm SMH grasping onto anything you can, I see.
What reads do you have so far?
none. This game has little substance. It feels like it is still Day 0.

...k. you imply Jay is "grasping" at empty leads but you don't have the guts to say you suspect him? what was the point of saying it then? it wasn't a defense

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:11 pm Listed in alphabetical order, these are the people I haven’t seen any reason to trust yet:

-JaggedJimmyJay
-MafiaMenace
-Nutella
-Spacedaisy
-Waywardson

In a game of 12 players, is a list of five in whom you have no trust yet a bad thing?

Why isn't eloh on this list?

[VOTE: eloh] aubergine She ain't tryin. Complains about being suspected and about the thread having little content but does nothing to address either of these issues.

What is a "neutral +1"?

I don't know about specific tells when it comes to eloh but I am often wrong about her so idk.

I wouldn't say I've gone hard for anything yet.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:52 pm its complete garbage to say someone is untrustworthy and possibly scum just because they havent showed up

I'd agree with you if it was about someone who literally (heh) hadn't checked in yet, but when that person has at least been online and posted once to acknowledge the game has started but hasn't participated substantially since, there is a reasonable cause for concern.

Wait who said it before you had arrived and where?

MM, epi is just arguing semantics don't worry he's like that. The difference is whether you interpret "un-" to mean purely negative or as negative-or-zero.

reywaS wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:53 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:56 am sprityo is good.

Elohcin is bad. Her most recent post is a token "look involved" post. Asking the guy who merely checked in what his thoughts are is futile. [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine
I thought her tagging onto G's post about me was rather unoriginal as well, but then she tends to be prejudiced against me.
[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

That's why we hear your music in fast forward
cuz we don't wanna hear that weak shit no mo!

Not sure I understand your reason for voting Jay here.

[mention]G-Man[/mention] when and why did you vote for Jay?

The question applies to [mention]reywaS[/mention] as well if it isn't obvious but I don't have much faith that he'll produce a coherent answer.

If you have a theory about Jay is love to hear it but I have no idea what any of your posts have been trying to say so you're not being particularly helpful to solving the game

I'd* love to hear it. Sorry jay but you're not love

[mention]G-Man[/mention] thoughts on sloonei vs epi?

Sorry Eloh.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:26 pm Lynching Nutella tomorrow is still on the table for me. Her ISO paints a better picture than some of her individual posts. I’ll let that soak for the rest of the day and see what else happens. Here’s what sits ill with me:

-She overreacted to my literal/not-a-good-look post at Sloonei in a big way. Had she claimed her vote on me was a form of reaction fishing, I might have believed her. Rather, she seemed to go all in, as if she sensed opportunity.

-Asking for the stats on sprityo being bad based on self-voting is also opportunistic. It provides and easy way in or out of working a sprityo train into the mix. It’s not original thought. That kind of data is arbitrary anyway. Nothing ever came of it but it still smells of opportunism.

-After Jay voted for Eloh, Nutella echoed his poor reasonings, thereby generating what appears to be justification for a later Eloh vote.

-Sure enough, Nutella goes back to the low-hanging fruit and votes for Eloh. A sloppy vote built on a foundation of sand.

-She even says she is often wrong about Eloh, preemptively excusing her role in a mislynch.

You're making all kinds of wrong assumptions here. I didn't overreact. I called out your bullshit, and when you revealed it was fishing I still found it unhelpful and sketchy. I think you were the one being opportunistic there. That said, based on your later play I think you are town, but I did not like that initial look.

I asked about sprityo because I never understand his meta and I know he gets mislynched for weird reasons a lot. I didn't put much stake into it either way so I don't see how it can be called opportunistic.

As for eloh, I honestly didn't have better reasons to vote for anyone else and her two posts looked bad to me. If it was "sloppy" that's because there was no other suspicious content to go on and of course I wasn't super confident in it but I had nothing better.

Anyway Epi and Sloonei both look like their normal selves but that doesn't mean I'm confident they're town. I'm gonna end up tinfoiling sloonei like I always do probably.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:36 pm Does anyone feel like commenting on my Epi case?

I didn't realize you considered it a "case" but I can see where you are coming from. Though I don't really think of Epi as one to heavily drive discussion even in small games like this. do you have a counterexample?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:46 pm right now im townreading epi, but both epi and nutella created the whole "literally" debate

so i would like to say there can only be one scum in {nutella, epi}
if nutella flips civi then the next one from there would be epi

so you've already decided to lynch me tomorrow? I'd love to convince you otherwise

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