The Syndicate

Tony's entrance is ehhhh

G's is good if a little heavy-handed but I respect that he wants some meta. [mention]G-Man[/mention] Michelle tends to ask people a lot of questions (kinda like juliets actually now that I think about it). LLD I've only played with once and the game is still going so I probably shouldn't talk about it. Tony and sabie I've played with a handful more times but couldn't really give you much specific description of their styles, I think they both vary a fair amount.

Quin is schooling the rest of us on the aussie slang. Idk if I'll even try. Uh, who's coming to my sausage sizzle?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:46 pm I see myself voting early and often. And if this game truly is a redo of Mad Max, then the best place to start is with a vote for [VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Why is this here

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:56 pm If the poll had been in reverse alphabetical order, that would have been funny.

Lol

Jack what's your take on Tony's two posts

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:57 pm Jack what's your take on Tony's two posts
Jack: I can’t read Tony and Michelle for shit.
Michelle: Jack, why don’t you tell everyone about my meta?
Nutella: Jack, please give us a read on Tony based on two posts.

I mean, they’re fine I guess. I’m not gonna townread him for that but I’m not pinged by it either.

I didn't see you say that first thing? I thought it was the other way around lol

I don't know how to read anyone lol. I feel weirdly confident in my ability to read Michelle despite only having played with her 4 times, while I am so uncertain on the people I've been playing with for years

I like to think I'm ok at reading epi and LC and quin and maybe you but I've been wrong

Dom is easy though

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:51 pm Tony's entrance is ehhhh

G's is good if a little heavy-handed but I respect that he wants some meta. @G-Man Michelle tends to ask people a lot of questions (kinda like juliets actually now that I think about it). LLD I've only played with once and the game is still going so I probably shouldn't talk about it. Tony and sabie I've played with a handful more times but couldn't really give you much specific description of their styles, I think they both vary a fair amount.

Quin is schooling the rest of us on the aussie slang. Idk if I'll even try. Uh, who's coming to my sausage sizzle?
Geez I can't talk english properly and he wants me to use a slang I know nothing about -_-

btw while Gman receives some inputs, can you tell me something about his meta?

I honestly don't know it's been so long lol. I think of him as being kind of like LC in personality but idk how much that applies to play style

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:06 pm How did I miss LC on the player list? I can read him. He’s town.

He hasn't posted tho? Y so confident lol

Acronyms for all

I also have identified a specific town tell from Michelle from the few games I have played with her, will see if it happens

NAITC!

Omg does anyone here even know about NAITC

[mention]juliets[/mention] isn't here and I miss ricooo

[mention]Michelle[/mention] it's a shame you haven't gotten to play with Ricochet, he's our other Romanian

No Acronyms In The Chat. From the discord's earlier days

Oh I thought epi meant G had good effort so far. Lol I'm confused

It wasn't even a push though afaict?? It was just an overly friendly invitation to play?

I think pretending it was a push at all in defense to epi is the worse look on jack here

...yeah jack prodding DF this much is nagl

.....sorry acronyms

(not a good look)

It's like you haven't decided whether you're buddying him or pushing for his lunch, you're bjust looking for someone easy to talk about

LIke I said I don't know if you were buddying him or not. But it was a very strange post and felt uncharacteristic of you.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:49 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 am LIke I said I don't know if you were buddying him or not. But it was a very strange post and felt uncharacteristic of you.
Why would you think I was buddying him?

Is it because I didn’t just say “Hey DF. Play or replace out cause I’m sick of you not really playing?”

I try to be nice sometimes.

Idk cause you're a pocket monster

Gotta catch em all

Lol nah

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 am did I understood correct, Jack is suspicious because he pinged a low poster to play?

well, and because of how he played it off after the fact. his wording was inconsistent, it seems like he was implying he was pushing some lynch pressure onto DF when that implication had not really been present in the original post. I was just confused by the whole thing and why any of it existed

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.
Because this is his only post and it’s nothing at all.
Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack.

lol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:02 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday

You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.

I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.

Please post.
You're mafia.
No you.

If I was mafia, I wouldn’t start the game with a push on a guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own.
Why wouldn't you? In a game with so few players, nearly all of which are vanilla, every town vote is significant. The usual approach of leaving me for late game won't fly here, since in a few phases I could conceivably pop back in after a hiatus and cast a deciding vote. It might be a better approach for the Mafia to go for a softball right out of the gate to get a jump on the numbers without really putting themselves on the line in the way they might in trying to fabricate a case on a more prominent player.

yeah. this is why "mislynch bait"/going after low-hanging fruit is a problem. it almost always ends up in the scum's favor

but I still feel like my initial concern wasn't even answered. Jack were you "pushing" DF with the post or not?

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] all of your posts so far are entirely devoid of spice. I see no real takes. I want takes

maybe you're the wrong person to ask that of at this stage but even your trademark "prod" votes don't feel like prods. There's no heart.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:17 am Jack is never this out of character as scum I think. I also tend to be able to sort him out by day 3 unless I die so as always not lynching him

this is a juicy little post

I've never liked when people say things like "I can sort this person/start trying to solve the game by day X" -- if you're town it's like asking to be night killed, if you're scum it's lazy and a slightly manipulative way to wriggle out of a lynch

this doesn't really make sense as jack/tony w/w I don't think... maybe tony has tmi on jack? idk it doesn't sit right

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:19 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:30 am
DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:02 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday

You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.

I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.

Please post.
You're mafia.
No you.

If I was mafia, I wouldn’t start the game with a push on a guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own.
Why wouldn't you? In a game with so few players, nearly all of which are vanilla, every town vote is significant. The usual approach of leaving me for late game won't fly here, since in a few phases I could conceivably pop back in after a hiatus and cast a deciding vote. It might be a better approach for the Mafia to go for a softball right out of the gate to get a jump on the numbers without really putting themselves on the line in the way they might in trying to fabricate a case on a more prominent player.
yeah. this is why "mislynch bait"/going after low-hanging fruit is a problem. it almost always ends up in the scum's favor

but I still feel like my initial concern wasn't even answered. Jack were you "pushing" DF with the post or not?
No. And you fucking know that.

I pinged him early and asked him to play.

Yes exactly. In your next post about it you implied you were pushing him. Do you see what I am confused about

You were suddenly very defensive and you were all "why would I push him if I were scum" but apparently you weren't even pushing him so why does that matter. It's an empty defense at best and a bizarre inconsistency/misdirection at worst

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:44 am
Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:11 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine for now. I’m absolutely not getting lynched because I asked DF to play. Asinine.
I like this vote.

Jack-- talk to me about Long Con.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:17 am
DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.
Nutella’s town meta is being waffley and when asked to back up her opinions, she’s like “lol idk” and she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements.
Is that indicative of her mafia meta, though?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:18 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:26 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.
Because this is his only post and it’s nothing at all.
Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack.
lol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread
This game is a joke right? Everyone high giving and giving townreads to scummy players. Wtf?
I don't like the LC/nutella interaction either.
So-- which is worse, nutella or LC?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:20 am [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Stupid Sloonei frisbee votes.
I'm unclear on a clear rationale as to why you're voting nutella. Can you explain it linearly?

Why nutella over LC?
Nutella: Jack is suspicious.
Jack: Why?
Nutella: Cause you did this thing.
Jack: I clearly didn’t. Why am I suspicious?
Nutella: Cause maybe you were doing this other thing.
Jack: That’s stupid. Of course I wouldn’t do that as a wolf. Why am I suspicious?
Nutella: Lol idk.
LC: I like the part where Nutella says “Cause you did this thing.” Vote Jack”
Tony: Jack is obviously town.
Quin: Jack is obviously town.
Nutella: Tony Probably has tmi.

So Nutella has been caught making false statements, reads that aren’t based on anything and general jenga-y play.

Doesn’t keep pushing me. Doesn’t drop it. Switches to a clarifying question with an already apparent answer that doesn’t really do anything but deescalate and moves on to Tony.

Yeah so I haven't quite sorted out whether I suspect you, because I'm literally just trying to figure out why your second post about DF existed. once you fucking answer that maybe I'll have a real take. I just don't understand why you jumped to a "why would I do this as scum" defense about something you didn't do.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:29 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:25 pm You were suddenly very defensive and you were all "why would I push him if I were scum" but apparently you weren't even pushing him so why does that matter. It's an empty defense at best and a bizarre inconsistency/misdirection at worst
I guess it was a bizarre misdirection then.

You’re still a wolf.

Great answer

And no, I'm not. You're trying to make that stick but have no actual reasons. Try elsewhere.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:51 am
Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:47 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:45 am
Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am If you changed your mind on me, that’s not an excuse. I want answers.
I gave you some.

You aren't infallible. Why should I just trust you?

Drop the arrogance and engage with me.
Infallible implies I’m making a mistake. As a wolf? What mistake am I making? As a townie? Then what’s your point?
You're being pedantic.

I'm trying to engage with you on the level. I'm saying if you're a civvie, you're not perfect so drop the act and just talk to people.
I’m not perfect. I’m unlynchable.

Who wants to test this theory

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:34 pmJack is town.

Why's that

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:57 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:47 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:45 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
please rephrase your last sentence, I try to understand it.
I’m characterizing LC as a small dog, grabbing my pantleg in his teeth and pulling. He’s “attacking” me but it doesn’t bother me and I’m not going to try to lynch him for it.
Ain't no big dog attacks on Day 1, dude. And so you would try to lynch people who suspect you, but only if you think they're serious and might be successful? You're just Mr "No U"?

This is Civ behaviour now? "I'd OMGUS him but i think I can weather this so I won't."
Okay, LC. Why should I suspect you as much as I suspect Nutella?
Vote me if you suspect me. Don't vote me because I suspect you. Don't vote anyone because they suspect you.
Good advice.

I’m voting Nutella for saying things that aren’t true and answering my questions about her opinions with “lol idk.”

Lol didn't you just say that was my town meta tho

You're so full of inconsistencies your eyes are heterochromatic

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:35 pm Cause I spent a long time trying to type a message that both emphasized how I think it’s important that DF actually play the game without sounding like a dick and I guess I was ready to get flack for it. DF is mislynch bait when he’s town and I was taking a somewhat hostile stance towards him.

Yeah this still doesn't explain why you got all defensive about pushing him when you weren't pushing him

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 pm Notice how the strength of Nutella’s read moves with the thread momentum.

I push back on her and she suddenly thinks I’m town and Tony is a wolf for having tmi on me.

She leaves for a bit and comes back to me questioning her and says “I’m just trying to figure out what you meant.”

Then she sees I have two votes on me and votes there as well, forgetting her earlier tmi read.

She’s not hunting. She’s looking for a mislynch and looking to avoid trouble.

She’s a wolf.

No dude, my read of Tony happened because of Tony's post, not because of you. Calm your ego.

Also I didn't look at the poll before voting, didn't even know you already had two votes (though I guess I remember LC's.) I was surprised actually

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:48 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:34 pmJack is town.
Why's that
Prodding DF the way he did probably isn’t a thing scum jack does. Overreacting to initial concerns over it definitely is not a thing scum jack does. He’s a player that people treat with skepticism fairly often because his style of play doesn’t change much between factions. I sense that his frustration today stems from being tired of being misread, especially this aggressively so early on in a game.

ok

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:57 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:47 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:45 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:30 am

I’m characterizing LC as a small dog, grabbing my pantleg in his teeth and pulling. He’s “attacking” me but it doesn’t bother me and I’m not going to try to lynch him for it.
Ain't no big dog attacks on Day 1, dude. And so you would try to lynch people who suspect you, but only if you think they're serious and might be successful? You're just Mr "No U"?

This is Civ behaviour now? "I'd OMGUS him but i think I can weather this so I won't."
Okay, LC. Why should I suspect you as much as I suspect Nutella?
Vote me if you suspect me. Don't vote me because I suspect you. Don't vote anyone because they suspect you.
Good advice.

I’m voting Nutella for saying things that aren’t true and answering my questions about her opinions with “lol idk.”
Lol didn't you just say that was my town meta tho

You're so full of inconsistencies your eyes are heterochromatic
What? No. Your town meta is that you’re waffly. Waffling and being misleading are not the same thing. They’re not even remotely similar. Waffling and having reads that you can’t given reasons for because they’re fake are not the same thing either.

You’re not considering my alignment. You’re considering my vulnerability.

No you literally said my town meta is to say "lol idk"

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:58 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:35 pm Cause I spent a long time trying to type a message that both emphasized how I think it’s important that DF actually play the game without sounding like a dick and I guess I was ready to get flack for it. DF is mislynch bait when he’s town and I was taking a somewhat hostile stance towards him.
Yeah this still doesn't explain why you got all defensive about pushing him when you weren't pushing him
Hang on to that idea like your life depends on it, fur ball.

I’ve got six pelts this year from wolves doing exactly what you’re trying to do.

I'm not "trying to do" anything lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 pm Notice how the strength of Nutella’s read moves with the thread momentum.

I push back on her and she suddenly thinks I’m town and Tony is a wolf for having tmi on me.

She leaves for a bit and comes back to me questioning her and says “I’m just trying to figure out what you meant.”

Then she sees I have two votes on me and votes there as well, forgetting her earlier tmi read.

She’s not hunting. She’s looking for a mislynch and looking to avoid trouble.

She’s a wolf.
No dude, my read of Tony happened because of Tony's post, not because of you. Calm your ego.
How can Tony have a tmi townread on me if I’m a wolf?

Ya that's why I wasn't sure. But I think it's quite likely one of you is bad. If you don't want me to vote for you convince me it's Tony.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:17 am
DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.
Nutella’s town meta is being waffley and when asked to back up her opinions, she’s like “lol idk” and she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements.

This lmao

Sloonei might be right about you though, I'll think about it.

Or he might be your buddy lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:17 am
DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.

I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.

Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.
Nutella’s town meta is being waffley and when asked to back up her opinions, she’s like “lol idk” and she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements.
This lmao
These are separate thoughts.

You think I think your town meta includes “she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements?”

Come the fuck on.

....uh I guess I read the last bit as a separate thought but not the middle bit? Idk you worded that really badly bit also the lol idk part is actually accurate so it made sense in my head

I haven't made any false statements though, no idea what you're referring to there. I have a truth meta y'know

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:23 pm I haven't made any false statements though, no idea what you're referring to there. I have a truth meta y'know
Oh yeah me too.

Talk to me about Tony and why you suspect him so much.

His post about you was icky. Do you believe what he said about him being able to read you by d3? "Unless he dies first" lol

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