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- Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:15 pm
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hey philosopals
- Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
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- Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:24 pm
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i will not be writing any treatises
i will not be thinking
i will not be
i will not be thinking
i will not be
- Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:25 pm
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oh shit my dude is actually a badass
- Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:37 pm
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- Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:39 pm
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Did you mean: cruiseloafing
- Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:43 pm
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- Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:26 pm
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- Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:27 pm
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- Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pm
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I agree with this yeah, I think he's deffo in wolfrange so farAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
- Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:28 pm
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he's kinda infamous for having insane postcount as town and for not being able to imitate his town meta well as scum, but I don't think him hitting the tiny cap early here is telling at all yet, and some of his posts do have an odd tone. however, I can easily see him doing the "I know my posts look scummy" thing as town, he did a sort of similar thing in a recent town game actually. I'm fairly confident that I'll be able to tell/have a strong townread of him by like halfway through d1 if he is town.Benson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:45 pmHow much overlap is there between his townrange and his wolfrange?nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pmI agree with this yeah, I think he's deffo in wolfrange so farAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:26 am
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I just brought that up in my post right before yours. It's not quite the same thing he did there, but you're right that he can easily be town -- it took a little bit into d1 in that game for me to feel quite right about him, and I suspect the same will apply here.
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:31 am
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Spoiler: show
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:23 pm
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lmao
kza town for now
Hard agree with this, textbook scummy entrance.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 am Scirrus' entrance also poor. Generic roleplay that attempts to disguise an uncomfortable thread entrance.
Lol this too.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:02 pmWait so this is your first post in the game huh.WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:59 amFrom my experience playing, for me this isn't always the case. sometimes, evils will joke about it and actually turn out to be evil. Maybe, this site's perspective is differentAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:27 pm
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good takes dot jpegAlison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:30 pm tutuu is town for that massive wall of text with incredibly convoluted reasoning about my alignment. Wolves don't put their mind so deep into the weeds for someone whose alignment they already know.
I'm gut reading proto town.
MR and tim have some W/W equity for a very "theater"-like interaction.
Benson seems like he's lonely and trying to reach out to people, which is town. Also Benson, my experience with proto has led me to feel absolutely no discomfort at his "self-conscious meta talk". I get why you feel suspicious about it - I had similar thoughts on iaafr. I'm just saying, from my own meta experience it's not something I'm concerned about.
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:28 pm
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Alison literally just identified this very thing as a scumtell of hers in a theory thread elsewhere on the forum.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:47 pm After about 30 seconds of thinking about it,
I'm gonna take this at face value and consider Alison town for it. It's hard for wolves to back down from an early game read they tunneled themselves in to. Not impossible, but hard.
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- Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:41 pm
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I'd say his is the most purely rp-based and feels detached from the game in a way that I think fits as a scum trying to appear casual upon entry
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:55 pm
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why did you post this?Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:32 pmI think I'm the same way. Do people ask you "why did you post this?" a lot?WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:38 pmSorry, if I didn't word this well. I post whatever is on my head at the moment even it may not be game related. I also rarely reconsider what I have typed.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:36 pmWhat do you mean 'post what I think type of person'? Don't we all post what we think?WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:32 pm Also, I am more of a post what I think type of person. Some people say that I play differently or opposite of how others do
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- Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:20 pm
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I didn't see a greeting post from you before that, are you sure you don't mean in the signup thread? lol
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:06 pm
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What's the difference between a duck?
One leg is both the same.
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:11 pm
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Eh it's a reach because we don't have private threads like on MU, it's usually only on discord, so I don't think she'd confuse it. unless maybe replying to the host pm? More likely she's talking about the signup thread.
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:12 pm
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Or yeah it could be the linki (post preview) thing came up and she didn't realize she had to resubmit. we've had new users get confused about that feature lol.
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:24 pm
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amy sus sounds good to me
inb4 i'm called out for sheeping again
inb4 i'm called out for sheeping again
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 pm
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we mostly ignore them, a lot of people (myself included) just leave the thread open all the time so it doesn't mean anything. as a mod I can see invisible people but I don't pay any attention to it
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 pm
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I buy this for now and also I am not voting for you lol (for now :P)Amy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:41 pm This is the one and only post I'm gonna use for self-defense unless this wagon sticks.
Consider this post largely addressed at Rabbit.
I'm multitabling. I'm pooped from Anni. I tend to intentionally use light games to decompress and not tryhard. And perhaps most pertinently, I'm pretty damn capable of faking joie de vivre as a wolf. It'd perhaps be harder if I was burned out from wolfing, but I've had a healthy mix of rands thus far this summer and if I were a wolf here I don't think we'd be in for a mountainado repeat. Go take a peek at my ISO in Voxx 9er if you don't believe me, but early tonereads aren't a good way to catch me.
You're correct that nothing I've posted yet is out of my wolfrange. If you're expecting me to leave my wolfrange in... 9? posts on day 0, you have unrealistic expectations for my towngame.
I was always entering this game with Zackpasta regardless of rand, it's a good pasta. I considered making a joke at proto's expense about not realizing it was a pasta but honestly I was afraid he wouldn't get that one either. Having people not realize jokes are jokes gets old.
Hopefully my future body of work will speak for itself, but I'd prefer to nip any misguided tunnels in the bud; like I said, Anni was exhausting. Will be around to post more content later tonight.
The worst vote on me is Nutella's.
1/60
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:47 pm
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zOmG eVeRyOnE iS ToWnY
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:13 pm
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goddamn postcapped games all the posts are too damn long ![Blank :|](./images/smilies/blank.gif)
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- Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:18 pm
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- Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:25 pm
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i like this taketutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:18 pm lets see if i finally understood how to read long con. dont think ive ever read him right.
i think this "gotcha" post is town. ill be honest, im heavily biased to tunnel my early gut townreads and never reevaluate so idk if i can claim in good-faith that i will ever re-evaluate Long Con from this moment on (not trolling btw. sorry thats just how i am. maybe confessing of ur sins is the first step). but yeah. UNLESS he's maf/maf with Scirrus. yeah. ok. long town is con unelss maf/maf with scirrus.
it was awkward wording imo, not quite a shroop but like. "so much posts made posted itt already" idk felt wordy in a nervous way. might just be more of a personality thing from her
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:38 pm
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not chopping today
iaafr
alison
tutuu
tim
nanook
benson
probably not chopping today but need more from to be sure
scirrus
radish
lc
kza
proto
poe ish
dizzy
amy
colin
cbob
wwh
....bad sign for dizzy that i didn't even put him in the middle tier, he really needs to show up and be dizzy
iaafr
alison
tutuu
tim
nanook
benson
probably not chopping today but need more from to be sure
scirrus
radish
lc
kza
proto
poe ish
dizzy
amy
colin
cbob
wwh
....bad sign for dizzy that i didn't even put him in the middle tier, he really needs to show up and be dizzy
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 pm
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already tinfoiling tutuu again rip
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:44 pm
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the strength of her insistence on the proto meta read is rubbing me the wrong way, maybe it's too easy to call it tmi but it does kinda remind me of how i sometimes whiteknight townies as scum
- Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:53 pm
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- Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:02 am
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tbh it was at least partially due to the stuff he said about how many posts he was going to have lmao. and just his general attitude/approach
also I just had a similar moment in thinking about protocultures and decided he's prob just town too, partially from what tutuu just said about him
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:04 am
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hot take my dude you have been playing up your nanookness to such a cartoonish extent that i think it's a facade
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am
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should be obvious tbh since youve only done one thing in your posts this game and thats what im referring toNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:06 am@nutella still waiting for an explanation what this even meansNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:08 amI don't even know what this meansnutella wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:04 amhot take my dude you have been playing up your nanookness to such a cartoonish extent that i think it's a facade
What is my nanookness???
you're playing up your character of not doing shit d1 and yes you have done so a fair bit in recent town games but your tone is different here and so i have a gut read that you're faking/emphasizing it a bit unnaturally
idk it's not a strong read i'm just concerned that you don't feel quite right
I.....really don't understand the point you're trying to make with this? I thought maybe it was since I was being helpful and informative about site functions and stuff to the new users but I don't see how that would have anything to do with alignment or gameplay. And whatever you're saying here probably wouldn't apply anyway -- being a moderator here is really nothing like on MU, it's extremely low key, basically all I ever have to do is approve new accounts and send welcome PMs. I don't view being a mod as any kind of burden or influence on my playing mafia games on the site, I consider myself a player first and foremost and my mod status doesn't have any relevance. I get that you're used to different site cultures around that but whatever you're trying to say about me doesn't make any sense fmpov.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:45 amYeah. Mod/admins playing on their own forum are biting off a chunk that can be hard to chew. In a situation like that randing wolf is like a gut punch, because wolfing is a LOT more intensive effort. Nutella seemed to be goin' along and gettin' along and I kinda took that too much at face value there at that time. But current ISO read is telling me I may have made a mistake there.
Amy progression in particular is really bad I think.
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am
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I mean we've had to deal with like four elijah alts this week and that's the most moderation stuff I've done in the whole time I've been one lol
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:52 pm
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:20 am I also DO do shit D1, I explicitly believe in catching mafia D1, and, most importantly, I've been doing shit on D1 this game
dude chillNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:25 am Help I’m being M I S R E P R E S E N T E D
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yeah you've given reads. I guess more what I'm trying to say is your tone feels fabricated to me. I know that's not a productive thing to defend against but it's there in the back of my head. I said I'm daypassing you anyway, don't get your boxer briefs in a knot.
good post. the long post about the tim reaction test thingy was p good too. amy can be v for nowAmy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:52 am Actually, a quick note about rabbit.
I'm not 100% sure how good I am at reading rabbit. Last game I played with him (excluding Anni, which isn't a game) I townread him very early, but largely because I had a very strong PR read on him - one which turned out to be wrong. So I may just be shit at reading him.
That said, I was hoping that his seeming inability to get his volume under control would be an indicator that I'd be able to find him obvtown and move on with my life, but I haven't. I have Concerns.
In essence, I think his reads are stickier than he'd care to admit. I think v!rabbit maybe doesn't bother to explain in so much detail why he swapped from me to nutella to me in the span of 2 minutes. And I'm concerned about the fact that he apparently feels strong enough about my wolfiness that he's willing to start making preflip associatives about it.
I also know for a fact that rabbit hates D1 wallcases, because I made an (incorrect) one in said last game we played together and he didn't let me hear the end of it. It's entirely possible that this is just his way of getting payback, but it still concerns me.
I don't wanna go here today, though. Rabbit is a slot that gets easier and easier to read as the game goes on. We check in around D3 or D4, see if there are still Concerns, and then dunk his ass if the answer is yes. Otherwise he hard clears himself and we all move on with our lives.
inb4 rabbit calls this w/w
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm
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liking your defense didn't necessarily earn you a spot outside the poe, mostly because almost everyone else is so villagery. however your post about rabbit that I just quoted did move you upAmy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:00 am actually yeah huh nutella never actually makes a post about my slot between saying she buys my defense and dropping me in the PoE. talk to me about myself nut. where am i at for you
also nutella/iaafr never w/w ever, if nutella's a wolf she absolutely TMI'd him v
11/60 remembering to include these is hard but remembering my post total without them is going to be harder
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:58 pm
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I don't really get why I'm at the bottom of everyone's list but okay, yeah I didn't explain my amy read very deeply, yeah I sheeped people's early reads, yeah maybe I'm not as obviously villagery as people who are writing more. but I'm lazy. sheeping reads and flip flopping is firmly in my town meta. i'm like a hybrid of hally and iaafr. Amy in particular may have higher expectations of my town meta based on the spec chat game because I put significantly more effort into it than games here, I almost treated it as a real champs game so it's not really a fair basis for how I play here -- Ranmilia made the same mistake in speccing the pyre game and scumreading me because I was lazier in it
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:12 pm
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has dizzy still not done anything? that's not a null read at this point. that's a straight up scumread. unless he really has had no time or anything, but I really think that if he rolled town he'd be excited enough for game start that he would have at least tried to post a few times. a silent dizzy is not a town dizzy.
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unrelated but trying to save posts: liked radish's long reads post but it's absolutely not out of his wolfrange. I value his reads on benson and kza and perhaps even more so his read on nanook based on wolfing with him, but those are all definitely "reads" he can state while not being town. and of course I value Benson's concern there as well.
[VOTE: dyslexicon] aubergine
unrelated but trying to save posts: liked radish's long reads post but it's absolutely not out of his wolfrange. I value his reads on benson and kza and perhaps even more so his read on nanook based on wolfing with him, but those are all definitely "reads" he can state while not being town. and of course I value Benson's concern there as well.
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:20 pm
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it was covid where you hard pocketed me and i swear to the god of vegetables if you're doing it again...Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:52 amThis is all basically saying the same thing – she’s following, not leading. In my limited experience that’s not a scumtell for her (or, rather, I see her do that when she’s town). She’s a little less forceful than usual, e.g. I don’t recall a posts where she just says like ‘this is a wolf’ which I often see from her.Benson wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:19 am Maybe I need to go further into what the others are thinking but my position on nutella is this:
- Noticeable lack of original thoughts/ideas that are from a villagery mindset. I've seen basically one so far. I expect a lot more.
- Following/sheeping the reads of others. I suppose this isn't *that* bad, because a wolf nutella probably knows to be careful here anyways.
- She's not really pushing in any direction either other than the ones that have already been established. But I realize I'm getting a little redundant.
Eh, it's not the worst. But I'll wait until it gets better before I take her out of lynch contention. If she's town, she'll likely get there.
What do you think of the wagon dynamic between Amy v Nute. That's what I wanted to explore today. I like the way those have developed, as in there's information there. I don't know what info, but info nonetheless.![]()
As I said in my readslist I’m waiting for the day I get fooled by her (she owes me one anyway, since I did that to her in, uh, I think it was Assassin’s Creed). But atm when I read her posts I nod in agreement and in general I think I’m pretty good at not being full-on pocketed by wolves, or at least I like to think so.
Re: Amy vs Nutella, I’m not sold on either one myself. Or do you mean specifically the wagonomics of it? Two of my stronger townreads are voting for Amy, but so is my top scumread. His was a very bussy vote though so that doesn’t sway me either way. The people on the Nutella wagon are varying degrees of ??? for me. All hesitant, uncertain townleans. In my experience that grouping contains wolves but I never find them on D1. Basically right now the wagon formation enforces my read that Nutella is probably town being nudged by at least one opportunistic wolf, but maybe Amy is someone I need to look at harder.
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thanks for defending me though :P
i am afraid he could be TMIing/whiteknighting me yeahBenson wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:40 amLol. I know this POV could be faked but it's how I feel as well so I want to call it towny.protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:30 am So did a partial re-read of day 1.
Think I'm not so sus of tutuu any more. Shes probably town. Which also means Alison is more town.
I also now read Scirrus as towny.
Also can people stop reading me as town so much. I don't want to die in the night. Thank you.
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I'm overly focusing on radish because I know him the most, but he still truly doesn't sit well with me. Like I wouldn't expect a full reads list out of him this early before he's really done significant investigative work; and he evidently hasn't done that. The list just looks like work for the sake of work. Sorry, MR, if you're town and I'm disrespecting you right now.
My new spicy take is that if we're just totally on point with nutella, then maybe he's wolfing with her. Or maybe it's a TMI read so he can salvage some town equity is she's miselimed.
Where did everyone go?
and your take on the reads list being overly busy for this early is a good one. my very vague sense of radish's meta is that he can be a bit more go with the flow as town and not do a ton of work early on and it's why he's been d1ed a few times recently, while as scum he can go pretty deep by looking villagery through some effort and developed reads. this isn't black and white though, certainly in his champs game he did a lot of high effort solving, but then again of course that's champs. but by my rough paradigm of "I should read radish the opposite of how I think I should read him because I've literally always read him wrong" he feels like a potential wolf here.
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- Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:43 pm
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I never voted lol why do people keep saying thatBenson wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:58 pm Actually, I realize nutella has (and just did) follow up her Amy reads, so you can disregard that point in my previous post. I guess if anything, nute, I want to know what was your *initial* read on Amy when you voted? What specifically about her subsequent posts made you think town?
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but yes when I initially agreed with rabbit's case on amy, I thought that it made sense amy looked most generally wolfy out of the people who had participated much at that point. as she's posted more and especially with her longer posts about the tim stuff and about iaafr I think she's much more in her town meta. and I particularly mindmelded with her iaafr read.
other stuff from the remainder of page 10
-wwh seems pretty towny now, sort of a vague tone thing but the way she's trying to put in some independent work and the way she expressed her take on each tutuu quote, generally feels like her perspective is genuine.
-radish's case on scirrus made me feel worse about radish and better about scirrus.
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:46 pm
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you don't need their approval to move your vote off meTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 pm @iaafr
@Amy
@tutuu
My corner of the SS Nutella has developed a large hole and we are taking on water. It may be time to look for a different boat. Either that or some arguments as to why we should stay on board here because as I said my own argument for having gotten on in the first place has come unglued.
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- Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:36 pm
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not the kind of entry I was hoping forDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:29 pm Lol, Scirrus? What did you do? Did you rand scum or are you just so incredibly scummy again? =p
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- Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:18 pm
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hmm upon a very cursory glance at lion king i'm leaning slightly townier on dizzy and slightly scummier on scirrus
hmmmm
hmmmm
- Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:17 pm
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interesing, how do you feel about Benson's 544 re: scirrus? could that be w/w?iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:11 pm his read on me is currently correct
and if we're in the easier world where sc scum amy town (easier because its more consensus rn)
then his sus of benson might have something to it too
cuz if rabbit/amy are civ/civ, i am potentially the pocketed civ who has wolves following me when im wrong
idk he's still null to me overall though without associations
- Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:11 am
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 1]
sup hally!
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wolfy post tho
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Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:12 pmnanook my dude are you wolfingNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:32 pm I wasn’t actually planning to pay attention to this game until like D3 but are you guys nutso IAAFR is like hard clear
He’s also probably town
Tutu is also pretty town based off the three posts of hers I read
I’m doing it dad I’m doing a mafia
....townier postsHally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:17 pmwow ok so you are wolfingNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:43 am Three town (IAAFR tutuu radishes) down, too many more to go
seriously nanook, there is no way you have a town read on radishes for what he posted up to here
just... no
not sure what you're asking me here? just that nanook is responding aggressively to being called out and not to much else?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:42 pm @Allison
Is straight to "how dare you"/OMGUS/AtE the usual way for v!Nanook to deal with suss? Because this looks a lot like how he pushed off suss from Nutella earlier.
I'm kinda torn because at the time Nutella was top wagon and here we are with Hally top wagon...and both look around and say "hey how about Nanook?" But it isn't like they are making a big reach to suss Nanook I don't think. His reaction isn't really jiving to me, but I don't know him.
@nutella is this as familiar as I'm thinking it looks?
- Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:13 am
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[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] can you explain why you TR radish?