I probably have to die today, so I will not lie at all. Since I will flip after death, its better you just have 100% mechanically confirmed information from me, my role, and the action I undertook and the result.
I believe a lot of town are lying about their roles, but I understand why. You should not necessarily scumread eachother in future for having lied in prev day phase imo. I believe it was necessary. I contemplated lying about my own power(s) for a long time because while lying is anti town, it can be helpful to confuse mafia. However, the nature of my power is not confirmable and it gives me a great excuse for mafia to leave me alive. This will in turn taint your future reads through association. You will scumread me and not want to vote on same person as me for example. As such, this is why I think its actually better for my alignment to die today. Hopefully that is not counted as "throwing" and punishable, since this is a considered opinion.
I can argue for why I am town if people would like, but they arent that good in comparison to the claims.
My dying request is that please do not scumread people who vote on me. Some people who do not vote me will read will scumread people who did vote on me. Those people may look at voters on me as being indicative of mafia. Please do not do this. I think its better if I am unanimously voted here so people do not read into the vote on me at all.
I will say that my tin foil hat is on a much higher level than other people, and I clear nobody mechanically from these claims. Yes some of them are extremely AI. You will almost certaintly have an omega deep wolf this game, like Tutuu or Nanook level. If not, and the game is actually just easy, this is example meta of me being tinfoil re all claims as town.
Historically, I am always extremely distrusful of any claims in any setup because I fake claim so frequently as mafia. They are so easy to do. Most people usually believe claims a bit too much. This gets me scumread a lot, and I suspect me pushing tinfoil will get me scumread as well, and killed eventually. Its better to die earlier imo.
So here we go, my summary from the catchup. If any errors, let me know.
This summary might be useful for others anyway down the road. I was not really active for a period of time, and I was surpised the day ended so quickly (seemed like less than the usual 24 hours to me anyway) so here is my apologetic offering for slanking.
Day 2 summary of claim info
• Master Radishes dies in the night – alignment unknown
• Nutella claims shot – says cleaning is part of shooting and makes it more likely Master Radishes was mafia.
• Iaafr also claims shot Master Radishes
• Tutu claims red on colonial bob – geography cop, they all from greece
• Iaafr also claims red on colonial bob – rescind claim
• Tim claims green on Radishes – rescinds claim once Tutuu hard claims
• Benson claims doc save on Tutuu
• Loncon claims was shot – pinged vest
• Hally claims redirected Radishes to Long con. – query made re how redirected
• Colonial Bob – killed in daytime – mafia
• Tim claims German philosopher
• Nanook claims daytime shot on Bob.
• Hally claims redirect mafia to mafia will fail, and therefore clears LC as town.
• Colin claims tracker and says targeted LC and they did not target anyone.
• Tim claims inventor, gave extra posts to Iaafr
• Alison claims odd night doc/even night tracker and RNG save onto Tim
• Iaafr claims trackser and doctor but can do both every night
• Alison claims Rene Descartes
• WWH claims their role is unverifiable and NAI
• WWH claims power to remove someones vote in the day
• Alison gets majority voted with a vote power PR
• LC claims NOT double voter
• Benson claims vote stealing power
• Nutella: "I shoot at someone. if they are town it has a 30% chance to hit. if they are mafia it has an 80% chance to hit. the janitor is the tradeoff for me having that probability. once I successfully hit I can no longer use it."
• LC says their role has % involved so tends to believe Nutella is telling truth.
• Mass flavour claiming
• LC claims did not target anyone either, but this is after Colin makes this claim that they visit nobody.
My thoughts on the below.
Why would Master Radishes take the KP out of the mafia team? One of most scumread people in any mafia team? This is a huge red flag for me when people want to clear people for checks/actions relating to Master Radishes. I think on balance, it is more likely that they were town. As such, I would suggest you look at Nutella/Hally or at least, do not consider them as cleared. I am unfamiliar with any town janitor roles, but used to mafia janitor roles. My gut says Master Radishes was town, and got killed and janitored by mafia. Basically everyone pushing Master Radishes as a mafia hit, which leads to follow-on logic clearing people should be considered suspicious. Nutella, Hally, LC are top of the list to me. Also to a certain extent Colin for giving an alibi for LC.
Colin is telling truth about LC not targeting anyone on the first night. Telling the truth is NAI.
The existence of my role indicates that priority is a thing, and other roles might be screwing with prioritiy in ways that people may not be considering.
Too many tracker claims now, since Alison is confirmed, and my role is kind of a tracker.
Colin's explanation for why they targetted LC is “Because I thought he was bad but not taking a ton of heat so he might be a good choice of the wolf team to do the kill”. This is EXACTLY same same reason why I targetted LC. LC's support for Tim's read on them is why I kind of scumread LC. I was not going to go for my top scum, more someone in the null range who might be mafia carrying KP when I picked my check.
My thoughts on Alison before I found out she died.
"Alison – why wouldn’t alison pick an unverifiable role instead to claim instead of a verifable one? Their role sounds out of scale with other powers. It’s a bad fake claim. Alison is smart, she doesn’t make bad fake claims." Doesnt really matter now, but I think its probably helpful to look into the vote on Alison to find mafia. Again, after I flip, hopefully this has a bit more persuasive force.
My role reveal
Laozi
Chinese
Taoism
One time use to check someone. My targets has highest priority and can never be blocked or redirected or anything like that. I am told what action is used by my target and get a parity check between my target and their night target (if they had an action).
My target: LC
Result: Target did not use an action
RIP me. I am just a villy now, not a PR. I will never eat a mafia bullet at night. The only reason I considered lying about the full nature of my role was to eat a mafia bullet. however this risks being saved by town when they could have saved an actual PR. Now I have told the truth, it is better to take me out of POE to reduce paranoia since mafia will never kill me.
Just for fun, I breadcrumbed my role in earlier posts in case someone claimed my role and it could have been helpful to indiate I never softed another role other than the one I am claiming. However, my breadcrumb in this current situation is totally NAI though as I would do this as mafia.
protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:51 am
Good luck, have fun all – just checking into the game to say I am present and ready. Uh, in case anyone gets suspicious that I am not saying “look at me I am town”, here you go – its totally NAI for me as a player. I am hard to read if you haven’t played with me before, I am still sometimes hard to read if you have – suggest you sheep their reads on me for first few days if I confuse you. Does anyone know how I can keep track of daily postcount? Even on day 0, I have mafia reads on people.
GUIDE - for priority for actions
protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:51 am
"Perhaps you have excellent meta for your read on LC, at present your read appears fruit from the poisonous tree
Respectfully I implore you to please justify, illuminate me with logic before paranoia may intensify
Thank you so much for your time and attention, you hopefully understand my mistrustful apprehension"
PARITY - for obvious reasons
No other intentional easter eggs in my posts btw, in case any of you wanted to go down a rabbit hole. Town dont waste your time.
No hard feelings and I wish you the best of luck. Will be watching from spec chat.
i kinda want to give you a town lean on this just bc i like the elaboration
