The Syndicate

Please. SVS takes risks. Keep thinking baddies never make any moves. Keep watching them dominate you.

Turnip Head wrote:You gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

You know what's the great pay off on early risk? Getting cred........and heat. It works. When it backfires though.....

I don't even know if I think SVS is bad. I'm asking a few questions. She seems to really want to push this Oliver 50/50 crap. It pings me for her game I'm used too. How much has changed it yet to be seen.

Who honestly thinks Zombas a civvie? I know a lot of you want to sit around and sing and pretend we are not going to act on this "info" Because "nice stuff". Be real. Her responses have been exactly the same as "Aces is a huge asset"....There, Roger Rabbit. Don't let her get away with it twice.

Golden, getting the Will and saying whats on it to have it stolen and confirmed does what? Gets he believed shes telling the truth about the will. That sir, is a purpose in itself. Think. Or you got other agendas?

Golden wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Golden, getting the Will and saying whats on it to have it stolen and confirmed does what? Gets he believed shes telling the truth about the will. That sir, is a purpose in itself. Think. Or you got other agendas?
I don't understand this, could you rephrase?

As for 'who honestly believes zombs is a civvie'.

Well I honestly do. To me, I do not come to the same conclusion you do. I come to a different one, as the most likely answer. I don't rule out she could be bad, but I just genuinely think there is another explanation I find more compelling.

How you come to another one is beyond me. Agree to disagree then.

There are a few reasons to get the will. One being there is a civvie switcher and an indy thief. Getting cred with a civvie or Indy by telling the truth never hurts. She knew she would not keep it long.

Turnip Head wrote:It was not very subtle of me at all, but that doesn't make it untrue. You seem very talkative at nighttime for someone who didn't show up until 48 hours after the game started though, and very insistent that I behave the same.

It's not very civvie like to keep ideas out of the thread.......

Golden wrote:At RM, everyone shut up at night!

Except me. I never shut up. Is that why I always get nightkilled?

Lol, rabbit, I guess we are just seeing it a different way. You could be right, I could be right. It's just a gut feel for me.

And I see your point on SVS, although I still don't think she is bad. I'm just not seeing it, SVS is seeming very logical to me... I may not always agree with her (certainly I tried to convince her that bf wasn't bad), but nothing has struck me as not being genuine. If you are right about zombs and SVS, then :bowdowntorabbit:

I'm not condemning SVS. I like to at least get a few jabs in on her though. She will respond. I will then make a further more educated guess as to her alignment. That is all....

Golden wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:It was not very subtle of me at all, but that doesn't make it untrue. You seem very talkative at nighttime for someone who didn't show up until 48 hours after the game started though, and very insistent that I behave the same.
It's not very civvie like to keep ideas out of the thread.......
Rabbit, how many times do I have to tell you there is no such thing as civvie behaviour?

I'm trying to see the game as you and BF, Golden. How am I doing?
Trying out this empathy thing. I've been told I lack the proper brain functions to feel compassion though.

Golden wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:I'm trying to see the game as you and BF, Golden. How am I doing?
Pretty good, actually. But, now you have to pick a best mafia bud...

LC.

Fair enough SVS. For now.

Zombarella wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote: Zomba. If Zomba is civ, I doubt that SVS is a baddie. But the inverse is far more likely.
I'm confused about this inverse thing. Are you saying that if you lynch SVS and she is civ then you doubt that I am a baddie? This is exactly what I was talking about earlier re the buddying up to me. SVS has had BTSC with me before and she knows this is something that makes me crazy. In fact, I think it's what got me NKd (as a civ) in Death Note. SVS, LC, Bea, Golden, I hope that you guys are civs and that you will listen when I tell you to STOP DEFENDING ME!!!! I will be looking at all three of you during the day tomorrow and if any of you flip bad before I die - so help me - hell hath no fury!

As for MM and Rabbit - all this speculation is just speculation. What if....millionaire...BF lying....SVS lying....you are missing the main point of my posts (on purpose?? ) My whole problem with what BF said was how it was going to affect my role. Let's just say that I am the Millionaire, wouldn't I be wanting votes to make me stronger? How does what he said ruin that role at all? I'll tell you - it doesn't. Your logic is lazy and lazy logic leads to lynched civs.

In Roger Rabbit - the only game where I played a baddie - half our team laid low the whole game and didn't get killed until the very end. I'd bet real money that this is happening again in this game. Where is A Person or BWT, one little post here and there, just enough to get credit for posting without committing to anything?

@LC - I'm going to use my stock certificate to start a fire tonight. Your suggestion intrigued me, it's not doing me any good, and I don't want Rabbit or MM or SVS or to get anything more than a pile of ashes if they decide that I need to die.

Yes I'm lazy and purposely missing your point. Maybe I'm missing your point on purpose. Because you're a baddie? I think so. Why are you so against people who think you're a civ giving their opinion?

I can see some of the low posters as being bad. Does not make you a civvie though.

Zombarella wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Do I get an answer to my question, Zomba?

Linki - Thank you SVS. I didn't realize that I was coming across as overly aggressive. Any yes, I am actually a fairly forgetful player. Sorry about the avatar thing. I'll leave it for now.

BWT - If you will kindly remember, I mentioned earlier (and LC quoted and then I requoted) that I want to pursue a strategy of looking at people who appear to not be reading the thread. This makes sense to me because as a baddie in Roger Rabbit I knew who all the civies and baddies were so I didn't need to read carefully in order to figure it out who was who. I'm not saying that you didn't read and I'm not saying that you're not busy. I'm just saying that I'm not convinced. One reason is that you said you didn't have time to read (MM already posted this). You don't have to convince me if you don't want - but .... I'm just sayin....

You will catch baddies who are not very good at being bad this way. If a baddie is not paying attention a baddie is getting lynched.

Like admitting your role was screwed over.

^^OK. Don't lynch me. I would agree I'm a hue asset. I win, a lot. You will learn this as we play together more.

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Zombarella wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:How many degrees are in a triangle?
180
That's what you've done with BWT. :P

Bad math joke.
I got it.

And it was funny as hell.

I wish I did actually win a lot.

A Person wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Zombarella wrote:
Zombarella wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:How many degrees are in a triangle?
180
Unless it's not Euclidian geometry. In spherical geometry a triangle can have more than 180 degrees - like 90, 90, 45. In taxicab geometry a triangle looks like a step pyramid and have hundreds and hundreds of degrees.
...And in Fairy Land a triangle can have all the degrees its heart desires, as long as it believes in the power of friendship!

Right?
No that's Equestria.

You're going to play mafia today?

RIP BR.

Black Rock wrote:FUCK! Poor dead me.

No. Necrophilia is gross.

Vompatti wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:FUCK! Poor dead me.

No. Necrophilia is gross.
You're a conservative and I beg to differ.

Bow down to you Authoritarian overlord and commence with the begging.

Turnip Head wrote:I am not making a connection to your reasons for self-voting in other games so I don't know what you're talking about. I am only concerned with your self-voting here. And here your self-vote here felt reactionary and opportunistic.

I thought the impulsive remark was a weird way to word a response about it. Considering Goldens vote for me was the same thing. Though Goldens was out of frustration. And MM was claiming she had voted in RR the same way and that she was not going to self vote and not vote for MP.

Sorry. He.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Black Rock is dead. That's why.
Aw, if my linkitis worked I would not have entered that quasi-humourous non-committal answer.

What would you have entered if it had worked?

TH thinks Zomba is a civvie.

Epignosis wrote:So MetalMarsh goes and votes for himself. Again.

?

OK. I read it as you having something else to say on the matter. I read it wrong.

Turnip Head wrote:
Long Con wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Black Rock is dead. That's why.
Aw, if my linkitis worked I would not have entered that quasi-humourous non-committal answer.

What would you have entered if it had worked?
Well, with the actual answer just flat-out posted already, I would have neither posted the coy jokey answer nor the real one... I would have deleted that post altogether.
In other words, LC was waiting patiently to deploy his "I would never kill BR on night 1" defense in just the right way.

lol, that's what I was thinking. But I could see it the other way as well. That he was not going to post.

Not sure either way right now. Weird exchange was weird.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Could someone explain to me what in the world is going on right now. This marmot's brain can't handle all this wink wink nudge nudge.

People think you're bad.

I don't think your being accused as being a baddie was winked at..... They pretty much straight up said it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Hahaha- and Black Rock is out Night 1. That's even funnier.
I see what you did there.

rabbit, what do you think of TH and Epig right now? They were oddly in sync last night, and they are at it again today.

I'm starting to think thy may be onto something. What do you think?

I don't know what BRs death has to do with you though. Can you tell me what he did there?

Good to know.

LizKeen wrote:No, before. I put it out there because as I no longer have it that is probably the most useful info I will have. I thought mafia had stolen it but I see that is not one of their abilities so I can assume it's in the hands of the celestials.

I have been rereading since my last post and had several posts I had quoted and commented on up to page 15 and then screwed up and lost it all. I'll have to start again tomorrow. Based on what I had reread I would say my current suspicions are SVS, rabbit, LongCon and Vompatti. But I'll have to go into that further tomorrow because it's really late and I'm tired.

Discretion? That sounds awfully like baddie speak.

You didn't want to save civvie BF? That sounds awfully uncivvielike.....

Long Con wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Discretion? That sounds awfully like baddie speak.

You didn't want to save civvie BF? That sounds awfully uncivvielike.....

Oh, lay off TH. I don't think he's a baddie.

But are you sure? Your memory seems questionable these days.......

juliets wrote:I agree SVS. I don't want to vote him unless a whole bunch of people are going to vote him because I don't want to risk giving him points if he doesn't get lynched. But I do suspect him enough to vote him if others are going to.

Its been very quiet in here today - where is everyone?

JC.....JC.......JC......Jc.......Jc......Jc.......jc.......jc.....jc..............................

It's a lot like an Echo chamber in here lately.

Canucklehead wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
I am going to suggest that no one vote for MM unless we seem to have a majority consensus to do so. Isolate him, as it were. I don't mind keeping him around for a while. I like jokes and banter as much as the next person.
I'm on board with this, since I don't think it does any harm at the moment.
I am, however, generally skeptical of the notion that the millionaire would self-vote since it would be such an obvious move. It's not what I would do with the role, but it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility, and I have no problem with being cautious in the way SVS suggested, so long as we don't get overzealous ad start demanding that all toes be unanimous always because Millionaire. (This is not what SVS was suggesting at all, but I could see a baddie team trying to ride SVS' coat tails and push that kind of hysteria).

The arguments for or against self voting are interesting in regards to the Millionaire.
The WIFOM is strong with that role!

It's also hurts the brain to try to determine if someone would or would not.

^^Do you still think BF is suspicious?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Never mind MP. I'm clearly the baddiest of them all.

I'm going ahead and voting for me. Perhaps I can stop wasting my effort on this game.

Are you fucking kidding me? How does this help if you're a civvie?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Never mind MP. I'm clearly the baddiest of them all.

I'm going ahead and voting for me. Perhaps I can stop wasting my effort on this game.

Are you fucking kidding me? How does this help if you're a civvie?
If you think I'm a baddie you should go along with it and vote for me.

If you think not, well do what you want, but talking about it right now isn't going to help.

Linki @BR: I decided to give up last night, but changed my mind today. I was sucked back in.

Did your team convince you to try?

I don't really even know how to process this. I can say for sure it is questionable. But to what end?

Maybe you found some Celestials, MM.

Zombarella wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:
Zombarella wrote:Bye MP. Take care. Hi Bass! I already suspect you because I suspected MP a little. I'm here to see how the vote turns out....
Wait. Did I miss the announcement where Bass is the one replacing MP?
Yes. Black Rock replaced Bea and Bass replaced MP.

Did you also miss my post where I said that I'm on the lookout for people who might not be reading the thread?

I assume everyone just skims your posts.

At least tell us who you planned to vote for. Before the post goes up.

RIP MM.

Golden wrote:Oh, LC, you accused me of avoiding your question in the last night, and by the time I read it I was silenced.

You asked me 'is there any baddie behaviour'. The reason I responded to that with 'did you read day one' is because, well, I had already posted a whole lot of stuff about me thinking that epi was doing something that seemed anti-civilian to me and it lead to a whole spat with rabbit which didn't need to be repeated. You asked in response to me saying to RABBIT... who had just said to someone 'thats not civilian behaviour'... something like 'hey rabbit, theres no such thing as civilian behaviour'.

I would think that anyone who had actually read day one would know that this was me making a joke at rabbit's expense. Since obviously I had earlier been arguing that there was such a thing as anti-civilian behaviour and rabbit had said there was no such thing as civilian behaviour.

So, to be honest, you got my eye for that, because I think it was fairly hard to miss my spat with and vote for rabbit.

@JC - that was tongue in cheek. But I do think people not reading the thread properly need to know it happened.

I've been calling a lot of things uncivvie like to see what people say. For some reason no one is picking up on the sarcasm I've been laying down, even you. I must be out of touch.....

I guess I will have to use orange?

Golden wrote:I picked up on it rabbit. I just thought I'd dish some back.

lol.

I find LC suspicious. Not so much as Zomba though.

Zombarella wrote:Hi again.

Sorry I wasn't able to vote. I would have voted MM because he was for sure getting lynched and I didn't want to put my vote on the Millionaire if MM wasn't him. Which he wasn't. Sorry MM. RIP.

Juliets - I owe you a HUGE apology. I got your name mixed up with Canuklehead. You were not looking for a bandwagon. MM was suggesting that Canuck was looking for a bandwagon. I am going to look into this more.

Rabbit - I don't know what I've done that has made you so myopic about me being bad. I'm posting and reading and looking for baddies and taking notes. I don't know what more you want. I made one comment three days ago when I was upset.

Even if I was bad, which I'm not, there would be four other baddies out there that we would need to find. We know that you think I'm the devil. Is there anyone else that you suspect? Any other thoughts?

Yes, I have other thoughts.

Golden wrote:Rabbit, you have myopic focus, and you are beating a dead horse.

Your transition to playing a golden-like game is complete. Congrats!

Zombarella wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Golden wrote:
Sophie wrote:sorry for all the offtopicism
Yeah, how will sophie ever catch up!
Exactly! Not very fair to her is it.

Given how the vote went down and everything that happened, I probably still would have voted Zomba had I been able to vote. The poll ending time is really awkward for me (and the new one for tonight still is), so I'll try not to. Although if it doesn't change, in some cases I might have to vote well over 24 hours before some lynches end. We will see though.

Currently though, I am still looking at Zomba. I am also feeling much, MUCH less good about both TH and Epig. I think there's a good chance they played their cards right to get BF lynched and set up MM for the following lynch. Not really sure if the Mussorgsky thing means anything yet, but if it does, that's one of the best pieces of WIFOM I've ever seen anyone play.

Lots of linki
Is this because I suspected you at first or because of that comment I made? Why are you and Rabbit so sure I'm bad? Am I just an easy target at this point?

So easy MM was lynched.

Epignosis wrote:I have a new suspect. Is anyone interested, or should I stop talking in hope that for once civilians could win a full game here?

I am. Go.

A Person wrote:Michagain

Who are you? Have you been playing all game?

A Person wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
A Person wrote:Michagain

Who are you? Have you been playing all game?
I'm Matt, and I have voted in all but one poll so I think I have been playing most game.

Oh, that's nice, Matt.

Does voting in polls satisfy some odd urge you have?

Golden wrote:SVS - maybe Golden can summarise the thread on my behalf

Epi - maybe Golden can build my case on LK on my behalf

Anyone else want to buy my legal services?

Why? You work pro bono.

I want to hear why she suspects me before I say anything bad about her. I don't want the No U argument thrown in my face. She suspected me, I want to know why.

I never said I suspect Liz. I said I don't want to say anything bad about her. Golden asked what I think about her but I did not want to respond because she had accused me. Though she accused me and keeps putting off why. But her throwing out names then not giving any reasons is odd. I've seen that tactic used before. I was hoping to see where she was coming from and wanted to approach what she said without a tainted view.

Nothing she has done has screamed bad to me other than saying she will do this or that then not doing it. How hard is it to actually give reasons, even lame ones you can expand upon later when you have more time?

I don't know. Her story about the earphones is strange though. Now she is changing her story too.

I think Zomba is bad. I also think these low posters are annoying.

Long Con wrote:So, do you think that LizKeen said the Eartubes thing about Zomba in order to deflect suspicion from her, because they're baddie teammates?

If so, do you think TH is a baddie teammate of Zomba, because he defended her?

I don't know about TH being her teammate.

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