The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:20 am Let me make it clear that this will be an active Mafia game. Every phase will move at a good pace, and we will not fart around for a moment while the mafia team does whatever they like.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:40 am

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:52 am leetic
Lunalee
speedchuck

reywaS....good AF...obv: Would not lynch
Elohcin....A saint without a deceitful atom in her brain...obv: Would not lynch
nutella....Who knows. Maybe good probably bad...or not: Wouldn't lynch..unless you guys are up for it.
colonialbob....anyone with bob in their name is likely good: Wouldn't lynch
novaselinever....The thought of no lube terrifies me. Not to be effed with: Wouldn't lynch
JaggedJimmyJay....rallying the troops and leader of the civilian army OBV: Wouldn't lynch...would join an unneeded lynch train tho.
JackofHearts2005....the Jack is objectively (all my brain cells agree) the best card in the deck. I saw a kanye concert in 2005. Would not lynch
Sloonei....Name is slightly suspicious. Might lynch
sabie12....see Sloonei
AudreyTheTattleTail....Admitted snitch Would lynch

leetic, Lunalee, speedchuck...the "double EE" crew. Mafia as fuck. SHOULD LYNCH ASAP.

There i solved the game.

I've considered changing my username to just "Luna." Would it help if I did that now?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:17 pm It wasn't like the Mac post though. It was made to look more serious at least.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:36 am

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:20 am Let me make it clear that this will be an active Mafia game. Every phase will move at a good pace, and we will not fart around for a moment while the mafia team does whatever they like.

Purpleface me all you like rey! I just had to watch an entire civilian team barely care until it was too late in the Socky game. The mafia team didn’t break a sweat until LyLo.

It’s not happening with JJJ around. No sir. Today we give a shit. Today we fight our oppressors. Today we make them suffer the cold bite of justice.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:32 am sounds like a mafia gambit...just sayin, homie. rallying the troops with deceit in your heart? Say it ain't so!

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 am Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

I have you agree that the thoughts crossed my mind as well. But I think Jay (at least) is being genuine. Chuck said it best and summed it up very well...

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:11 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:58 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:14 am leetic I've ne'er seen you before. I'd love to hear where you're from, and what you think your playstyle is like.

JJJ is pending town. Ask me why.

Aw heck Sloonei

Y tho

Town JJJ is supah hot fire. Or, at least he can be.

As scum, he can only fake that intensity and proactivity.

Examples: Phenon: Origins. JJJ was pretty chill in that game and only made it through the last day due to town complacency and his emotional pleas, not because of firey town hunting.
Mountain Mafia also had a scum JJJ in it. His arguments, through D3, fell flat. The usual effort wasn't there, and it was more about half-hearted bussing and opportunistic arguments than genuine 'stirring the pot'.

If JJJ keeps up his current attitude, and keeps people on their toes, I'm comfortable labeling him town. It is still pending, though. Give him a few days.

This doesn't mean I 100% think Jay is town. But I think it is very likely.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:10 pm Sloonei could be bad. Need more data. Cbob need more data too

Couldn't you say this about everyone?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:10 pm Rey is trying too hard

Rey is just silly. Have you played with him before?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:27 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:12 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:57 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:38 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 am Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

Nevermind Jay and Nova. Seems like they are strong-arming everyone at the door with their check-in posts. It's simply a power show.

What does this "power show" indicate to you about rey and I?

I didn't mention rey. It just makes you and Nova look like you're excited for the game, and don't mind punching reads out of people's check-in posts. I like the enthusiasm, but your methods look a bit harsh.

This... is actually interesting. Rey for Nova slip. I'm intrigued.

Hmmmm...what do we think about this? Was it just an accidental mention of the wrong name. Rey, why would Jay accidentally say YOUR name instead of Nova?

Still one more page to read, posting anyway b/c I don't care that people are annoyed by that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:19 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:17 pm It wasn't like the Mac post though. It was made to look more serious at least.

you can keep suspecting me for my sense of humor. One of these days you'll be right. lol You know the saying about broken clocks and whatnot.

I am getting the impression based on this uninspired response to nutella's poop and your purpleface spam at me earlier that we might have arrived at one of those two moments per day in which the clock is correct.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:38 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:36 pm i dismiss it because it makes 3 straight games now where she brings this lame type suspicion of me to the table. She was bad in vanilla. I think she was good in the last one. I was/am civ in all 3. Just sayin...it grows lame after a while.

What do you make of her motivations in this game?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:42 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:38 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:36 pm i dismiss it because it makes 3 straight games now where she brings this lame type suspicion of me to the table. She was bad in vanilla. I think she was good in the last one. I was/am civ in all 3. Just sayin...it grows lame after a while.

What do you make of her motivations in this game?

too soon to tell. Could be pot stirring for a read. Could be shit posting for baddie's sake. I can't tell.

I shuffled through her posts about you in Vanilla Mafia and the Socky Awards game, and I couldn't quite find evidence that her suspicions were driven by your humor. It's all interpretive, so you might have felt that was the source of her suspicion anyway. Can you recall something specific she did or said in either game that you feel is happening similarly in this game? Don't go spending time doing an archaeological dig if you can't remember.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:56 pm I'm liking Nutella

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:30 am

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:28 am my mafia/civ or civ/mafia reads in a particular order:

JackofHearts2005
Sloonei
nutella
JaggedJimmyJay

I don't actually know what this means

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:22 pm @reywaS, what is the difference between my recent posts and my less recent posts?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:35 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:56 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:54 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:35 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?

I left the puzzle key right there in my post. *sighs*

I have you in the "don't wanna lynch at the moment" end of the spectrum.

Why the heck not?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:00 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:56 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:54 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:35 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?

I left the puzzle key right there in my post. *sighs*

I have you in the "don't wanna lynch at the moment" end of the spectrum.

Why the heck not?

because I needed 2 names and i hadn't made a crazy face at any of your posts yet.

But I spent like 24 hours goofing around and avoiding meaningful discussion altogether.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:03 pm What was the best game-related post I made prior to this conversation, @reywaS?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm @reywaS, please tell me how you feel about Jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:43 pm Effort isn't really the right word for it. He wants to get in there and mix things up. He's fucking relishing this game. Yeah, you can get this kind of enjoyment out of playing as scum but it comes later from when you can see the winning gamestate coming together or when you pull off a cool power combo or mislynch. It doesn't happen the thread opens. Jay isn't excited to get away with something. He's excited to hunt scum. That's a townie attitude.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm reywaS, please tell me how you feel about Jack.

He's on my would lynch list....which now only includes him. His posts give me lots of stank eye

linkitits (giggity) why are you so interested in how i'm reading you then, sloondog?

Why do you read nutella as a civilian?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:35 pm LEETIC
REYWAS

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:37 pm SLOONEI
ELOHCIN

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:40 pm JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
LUNALEE

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:42 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm reywaS, please tell me how you feel about Jack.

He's on my would lynch list....which now only includes him. His posts give me lots of stank eye

linkitits (giggity) why are you so interested in how i'm reading you then, sloondog?

I wanted you to provide a read which was an actual stance, and not one which is just the absence of a stance.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:37 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm reywaS, please tell me how you feel about Jack.

He's on my would lynch list....which now only includes him. His posts give me lots of stank eye

linkitits (giggity) why are you so interested in how i'm reading you then, sloondog?

Why do you read nutella as a civilian?

she's about the only person in this game i have experience playing mafia with. I'm not suspicious of her and felt comfortable putting her as a town read. I took the list 2 and 2 thing to be more like who would you feel most and least comfortable voting for in the opening lynch rather than being confident about whether or not said people are civ or mafia.

You have plently experience with me

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:43 pm JACKOFHEARTS2005
SPEEDCHUCK

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:45 pm NUTELLA
SABIE12

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:46 pm NOVASELINENENVER
COLONIALBOB
AUDREYTHETATTLETAIL

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:47 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:37 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm reywaS, please tell me how you feel about Jack.

He's on my would lynch list....which now only includes him. His posts give me lots of stank eye

linkitits (giggity) why are you so interested in how i'm reading you then, sloondog?

Why do you read nutella as a civilian?

she's about the only person in this game i have experience playing mafia with. I'm not suspicious of her and felt comfortable putting her as a town read. I took the list 2 and 2 thing to be more like who would you feel most and least comfortable voting for in the opening lynch rather than being confident about whether or not said people are civ or mafia.

You have plently experience with me

do I? have you always used speedchuck as your handle? I dont recall the name. I have smoked a lot of pot in my time so forgive me i killed the brain cell that speed chuck lived on.

We played Socky earlier this month. That was you right?

No, we don't have a long history.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:26 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:21 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:20 pmsloonei and nutella were my civ reads in the 2civs2bads read FTR

k

I guessed

He said there was a code. It was the order in which he said "mafia/civ civ/mafia" in the post. So obvious lrn2read

This is lame as far as secret codes go.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:47 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:37 pm Who wants to lynch Audrey?

How about a lynch that might actually give us information

Seriously, since when has an inactive lynch ever benefited town

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:57 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:27 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:47 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:37 pm Who wants to lynch Audrey?

How about a lynch that might actually give us information

Seriously, since when has an inactive lynch ever benefited town

i dont care for how you seem like you want to always give a pass to inactives...as if it is unheard of for mafia to fly under the radar by claiming busy-ness or some other excuse for being MIA. Ive done it many time myself.

I generally find inactives to be easy mislynches, so pushing for lynches on them is a behavior I consider scummy (I've won Fruit Bowl Mafia as scum by constantly lynching inactive players). Note that by inactive, I mean players that don't really post anything at all and are at risk of being subbed out, not players that seem to be hiding under the radar like you are referring to - that can definitely be considered scummy behavior.

Another thing throwing to consider is that Audrey is a new player, and it's easy to confuse scummy behavior with inexperienced town behavior. The best way to read Audrey will be to see how other people interact with her, and make inferences from there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:29 am Day 1 ISO of reywaS

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reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:17 pm It wasn't like the Mac post though. It was made to look more serious at least.

you can keep suspecting me for my sense of humor. One of these days you'll be right. lol You know the saying about broken clocks and whatnot.

rey hasn't spent any time in this game exploring nutella's alignment. He assumed she's okay from the start even as she placed the proverbial pieces of her own poop into his proverbial bowl of Corn Flakes cereal. That's goofy. He explained that here. Eh.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:29 am

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reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Yuck

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reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:27 pm it smells bad....real bad. Like he didn't feel comfortable just saying "JJJ is being helpful...that feels townie." He had to add all this bullshittery into it to make it sound more insightful when he's actually saying the exact same thing with 2 cups of I know how mafia is played on a macro level please believe.

to quote a chocolatey treat i once read ....."YUCK"

To be fair, rey's accusation at Jack here could be leveled upon rey himself to some extent for the previous post I highlighted.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:43 pm Effort isn't really the right word for it. He wants to get in there and mix things up. He's fucking relishing this game. Yeah, you can get this kind of enjoyment out of playing as scum but it comes later from when you can see the winning gamestate coming together or when you pull off a cool power combo or mislynch. It doesn't happen the thread opens. Jay isn't excited to get away with something. He's excited to hunt scum. That's a townie attitude.